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Anybody else think this was bush league? (1 Viewer)

gruecd

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Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?

Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.

 
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
See the thread last week. He has been doing it all year.
 
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
Cowboys fan here.They ran it. Up the middle. With the 18-th string RB who never gets a chance. The defense couldn't stop them.I've got no problem with the call whatsoever.
 
Why did Wade Phillips call his last timeout on first down inside the ten yard line with less than two minutes left?

 
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
Cowboys fan here.They ran it. Up the middle. With the 18-th string RB who never gets a chance. The defense couldn't stop them.I've got no problem with the call whatsoever.
:popcorn:
 
You make the mistake of thinking Belichik is a classy coach, which by the admission of everyone on earth, he isn't.

Of course it's bush league, but it doesn't matter. The Patriots are the cocks-of-the-walk right now. But to win the Super Bowl they will likely have to beat Jax or Ten at home, beat Indy (home or away), and then beat the Cowboys on a neutral field. If they win the SUper Bowl this year, it will be well-deserved through quite a gauntlet.

I just like how a cheater like Rodney Harrison derives so much satisfaction out of doing nothing more then getting run over a few times by Marion Barber. Good studd.

 
You make the mistake of thinking Belichik is a classy coach, which by the admission of everyone on earth, he isn't.Of course it's bush league, but it doesn't matter. The Patriots are the cocks-of-the-walk right now. But to win the Super Bowl they will likely have to beat Jax or Ten at home, beat Indy (home or away), and then beat the Cowboys on a neutral field. If they win the SUper Bowl this year, it will be well-deserved through quite a gauntlet.I just like how a cheater like Rodney Harrison derives so much satisfaction out of doing nothing more then getting run over a few times by Marion Barber. Good studd.
From: Round Rock Texas
 
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
Cowboys fan here.They ran it. Up the middle. With the 18-th string RB who never gets a chance. The defense couldn't stop them.I've got no problem with the call whatsoever.
much respect here. Your team played their tail off. they ended up a little thin in the secondary and with a few too many penalties. but those guys are on their way to the SB. there isnt a doubt in my mind. good game. :thumbup:
 
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I'll put it this way: it shows me that BB is in no way classy.

I don't think it's outrageous, though. I don't think there is a requirement to show any mercy in pro sports. I think it's entirely optional and totally up to the person or persons in control of the team doing the blowing out. The class thing to do is not run up the score, but nobody says anybody has to do the classy thing.

What is out of bounds is running up the score and then complaining about any other entities running up the score and/or stat padding. If Tony Dungy keeps Peyton Manning in and Peyton runs up stats, BB should keep his mouth shut.

 
Wait, why is this bush league?

They Pats are supposed to take a knee on 4th down to keep from making the Cowboys feel bad? Is this seriously what you are saying? It's not like they could run the clock out (Phillips assured that) so what are they supposed to do? Some people get their feelings hurt way too easy.

 
You make the mistake of thinking Belichik is a classy coach, which by the admission of everyone on earth, he isn't.Of course it's bush league, but it doesn't matter. The Patriots are the cocks-of-the-walk right now. But to win the Super Bowl they will likely have to beat Jax or Ten at home, beat Indy (home or away), and then beat the Cowboys on a neutral field. If they win the SUper Bowl this year, it will be well-deserved through quite a gauntlet.I just like how a cheater like Rodney Harrison derives so much satisfaction out of doing nothing more then getting run over a few times by Marion Barber. Good studd.
Yeah, maybe Barber should have run him over alot more than he did...I mean, given the final score and all. :thumbup:
 
You make the mistake of thinking Belichik is a classy coach, which by the admission of everyone on earth, he isn't.Of course it's bush league, but it doesn't matter. The Patriots are the cocks-of-the-walk right now. But to win the Super Bowl they will likely have to beat Jax or Ten at home, beat Indy (home or away), and then beat the Cowboys on a neutral field. If they win the SUper Bowl this year, it will be well-deserved through quite a gauntlet.I just like how a cheater like Rodney Harrison derives so much satisfaction out of doing nothing more then getting run over a few times by Marion Barber. Good studd.
From: Round Rock Texas
I'm a Titans fan, frankly. I'm much more miffed at them losing today then the Cowboys. I think a few things about the NE/Dal game...1. New England was clearly the better team.2. A late TD or a 1 point win, it looks the same in the standings.3. Rodney Harrison is a cheater4. The Cowboys were the 2nd best team on that field, but they shot themselves in the foot plenty w/ penalties.
 
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
No, a run up the middle should be stopped. It was 4th down, if he took a knee the clock stops and Dallas gets the ball. If Big D can't stop the 4th string RB they deserve to get the score run up on them. If it wasn't 4th then sure, bush league. But 4th down you don't kneel on it.
 
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You make the mistake of thinking Belichik is a classy coach, which by the admission of everyone on earth, he isn't.Of course it's bush league, but it doesn't matter. The Patriots are the cocks-of-the-walk right now. But to win the Super Bowl they will likely have to beat Jax or Ten at home, beat Indy (home or away), and then beat the Cowboys on a neutral field. If they win the SUper Bowl this year, it will be well-deserved through quite a gauntlet.I just like how a cheater like Rodney Harrison derives so much satisfaction out of doing nothing more then getting run over a few times by Marion Barber. Good studd.
Yeah, maybe Barber should have run him over alot more than he did...I mean, given the final score and all. :thumbup:
Harrison didn't play well, and got punked a handful of times. Deal.
 
This has nothing to do with "classy"

The goal is to win games on way to winning a championship. A few thoughts:

While a FG gives them a near impossible to overcome three possession lead, a FG (one could argue) has a chance to get blocked, run back, then suddenly its a one possession game.

If you don't punch it in, they STILL have to march down 99 yards with no (or one?) TO and then get an onside and then score.

You get a chance to give a guy that works his ### off for not much acclaim the chance to get in the boxscore. That is good for team morale, and good morale = more wins, better shot at the championship.

Was 100% the right call.

 
Huge Boys fan here... going into the games I thought the Pats had the edge in the passing game.

I was very impressed that that they took Moss away when it counted; the Pats deserve a lot of respect for what they did with Welker.

Right now, NE is the better team. Glad to see the Boys in it late. After the game was over realistically, I could care less what the Pats did with score.

It was fun to watch, and if they play again I hope the Cows watch the tape and figure out some new schemes. Nothing to be dissapointed with here.

... glad the Skins lost...

 
gruecd said:
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league?
I don't like to watch college teams run it up on inferior competition. However, at the professional level, if you don't want the other team to score, then stop them. :lmao:Pretty sad that Dallas couldn't stop the Patriots second string fullback. :rolleyes:
 
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Koya said:
This has nothing to do with "classy" The goal is to win games on way to winning a championship. A few thoughts:While a FG gives them a near impossible to overcome three possession lead, a FG (one could argue) has a chance to get blocked, run back, then suddenly its a one possession game. If you don't punch it in, they STILL have to march down 99 yards with no (or one?) TO and then get an onside and then score.You get a chance to give a guy that works his ### off for not much acclaim the chance to get in the boxscore. That is good for team morale, and good morale = more wins, better shot at the championship.Was 100% the right call.
What?
 
gruecd said:
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
he was sending a messagewe can kick your butt with or with out video taping
 
prefontaine said:
Wait, why is this bush league? They Pats are supposed to take a knee on 4th down to keep from making the Cowboys feel bad? Is this seriously what you are saying? It's not like they could run the clock out (Phillips assured that) so what are they supposed to do? Some people get their feelings hurt way too easy.
It's called sportsmanship.
 
I don't think Phillips can run his mouth during the week about the Pats legacy and then beg for mercy from them on Sunday.

At least, I don't think anyone with much neutrality would claim that's a reasonable position.

I'm also curious why he was still calling timeouts.

 
Look, seriously, at the first sentence of this post. See how it had the name "Eckel" in it? If that name is in a sentence, it can't possibly be bush league.

 
Look, seriously, at the first sentence of this post. See how it had the name "Eckel" in it? If that name is in a sentence, it can't possibly be bush league.
United States Naval Academy graduate. He was a pretty good college player. Saw him play twice. Nothing bush league about him.
 
Bad_Mo said:
Colin Dowling said:
Bad_Mo said:
Waddle Fillups should learn to shut his fat piehole when it comes to dissin' NE.How's that for your tainted SBs, you fat SOB who has ridden his fat daddy's coat tails?
Please translate to Inles. TIA.
OK, here it is....in INLES, as requested:Overweight Blowhard good to understand that not good to run fat mouth to Peter King about tainted anything. Fatboy only is where he is because of cowboy hat wearing fat daddy.
Wow. The Pats must be so proud they have you to represent them.
 
Koya said:
This has nothing to do with "classy" The goal is to win games on way to winning a championship. A few thoughts:While a FG gives them a near impossible to overcome three possession lead, a FG (one could argue) has a chance to get blocked, run back, then suddenly its a one possession game. If you don't punch it in, they STILL have to march down 99 yards with no (or one?) TO and then get an onside and then score.You get a chance to give a guy that works his ### off for not much acclaim the chance to get in the boxscore. That is good for team morale, and good morale = more wins, better shot at the championship.Was 100% the right call.
What?
What don't you understand, Ill explain.
 
Besides, any team that employs Roy Williams deserves bush league stuff happening to them all game.
That statement probably extends to Detroit as well.
Not really.
Well, Matt Millen......bush league.....?
As far as I can recall Matt Millen played hard his entire career and was not a cheap shot artist.
Correct.However, let's look at his illustrious GM career. Bush league would be a compliment in that regard.
 
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Besides, any team that employs Roy Williams deserves bush league stuff happening to them all game.
That statement probably extends to Detroit as well.
Not really.
Well, Matt Millen......bush league.....?
As far as I can recall Matt Millen played hard his entire career and was not a cheap shot artist.
Correct.However, let's look at his illustrious GM career. Bush league would be a compliment in that regard.
So how does that apply to Roy Williams WR of the Detroit Lions?
 
IMO the classy move would have been to kneel down on 4th down there. That would have left a 14 point lead with less than a minute to go and the Cowboys would have had to go 98 yards to get the first TD.

The fact that the Pats did not do the classy thing doesn't necessarily equate to bush league. But as others have said, no one has ever confused BB with being a classy coach, so not too surprising.

The Pats sure look good, though.

 
I don't think Phillips can run his mouth during the week about the Pats legacy and then beg for mercy from them on Sunday.

At least, I don't think anyone with much neutrality would claim that's a reasonable position.

I'm also curious why he was still calling timeouts.
:rolleyes: Wade Phillips doesn't give a #### about who scored when. This is a fantasy football message board, not the Cowboys locker room.
 
gruecd said:
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
Considering Eckel is from Navy and BB has a history with Navy I wasn't surprised that he let him punch it in. The touchdown would have never had happened if Wade hadn't of called the timeout.
 
Bad_Mo said:
Colin Dowling said:
Bad_Mo said:
Waddle Fillups should learn to shut his fat piehole when it comes to dissin' NE.How's that for your tainted SBs, you fat SOB who has ridden his fat daddy's coat tails?
Please translate to Inles. TIA.
OK, here it is....in INLES, as requested:Overweight Blowhard good to understand that not good to run fat mouth to Peter King about tainted anything. Fatboy only is where he is because of cowboy hat wearing fat daddy.
Wow. The Pats must be so proud they have you to represent them.
I represent myself, Mr. I have no identity so I'll latch on to a decent old time Steeler because I have no original thoughts of my own.
 
gruecd said:
Anybody else think Eckel's TD w/19 seconds remaining was totally bush league? Already up by 14, doesn't a classy coach just tell his QB to take a knee there?Just re-affirms my opinion that Belicheck is an arrogant jerk with no class whatsoever. I hope this comes back to bite them in the backside.
Considering Eckel is from Navy and BB has a history with Navy I wasn't surprised that he let him punch it in. The touchdown would have never had happened if Wade hadn't of called the timeout.
:rolleyes:
 
Besides, any team that employs Roy Williams deserves bush league stuff happening to them all game.
That statement probably extends to Detroit as well.
Not really.
Well, Matt Millen......bush league.....?
As far as I can recall Matt Millen played hard his entire career and was not a cheap shot artist.
Correct.However, let's look at his illustrious GM career. Bush league would be a compliment in that regard.
So how does that apply to Roy Williams WR of the Detroit Lions?
Same name... :thumbup:
 
Besides, any team that employs Roy Williams deserves bush league stuff happening to them all game.
That statement probably extends to Detroit as well.
Not really.
Well, Matt Millen......bush league.....?
As far as I can recall Matt Millen played hard his entire career and was not a cheap shot artist.
Correct.However, let's look at his illustrious GM career. Bush league would be a compliment in that regard.
So how does that apply to Roy Williams WR of the Detroit Lions?
Same name... :thumbup:
Ok, just wanted to make sure you were spouting useless #### in the shark pool.
 
mad sweeney said:
Bad_Mo said:
Colin Dowling said:
Bad_Mo said:
Waddle Fillups should learn to shut his fat piehole when it comes to dissin' NE.

How's that for your tainted SBs, you fat SOB who has ridden his fat daddy's coat tails?
Please translate to Inles. TIA.
OK, here it is....in INLES, as requested:Overweight Blowhard good to understand that not good to run fat mouth to Peter King about tainted anything. Fatboy only is where he is because of cowboy hat wearing fat daddy.
I love posts that point out typos while making their own glaring mistakes. Unless "good to understand" is some new phrase I've never heard.
Calling Colin colon is pretty juvenile stuff, but most everything this character has posted in this thread is. He is part of the increasingly annoying noise level in this once truely outstanding message board. On topic, why not take the FG there? Puts the game completely out of reach (yes, it was already) but anyone remember the Flutie drop kick? This is typical Belichick. News flash: He WANTED the TD. I'm surprise he didn't have Brady throw to go after Mannings' record, actually. That is his style. Maybe he is mellowing as his sweatshirts get more ragged looking, a bit frayed around the scissor cuts.

 
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