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Anybody rolling with Sage this week? (1 Viewer)
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blueboys21
Footballguy
thought Orton was getting the start over Griese this week?
And here I am a Bears fan.So yeah, you can mark Griese off that list then.thought Orton was getting the start over Griese this week?
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I am ver very very interested in starting Sage... the only problem I have is the Back Walker... how is his pass blocking? my Current QBs are Bulger (not going with Him) / Warner (would be starter and I can not complain about his yardage and TDs.. may get Boldin back) / and then there Sage. I picked Sage up last week because of this match up. But I might stick with Warner.. he got me here.
shadyridr
Footballguy
Buf doesnt strike me as a high powered offense. Just because they have a good matchup doesnt mean I think Edwards will have a good game. IMO Buf likes to run the ball and not pass all the time. Sure Edwards had a great game vs MIA but that was pretty much BUF's only good game vs anybody this year. Losman had a mediocre start vs CIN and a bad start vs MIA earlier. For another similar example just look at the CLE-NYJ game from last week. It was a great matchup on paper for Clemens but he didnt have a great game. I trust Rosenfels throwing the ball a ton (esp with Dayne & Green out) to guys like AJ, Daniels, & Walter more than I do Edwards.
Brutis
Footballguy
The reason I favor Edwards over Sage is because the Broncos D has been playing better as of late. I can see Sage struggling against the Denver DB's.
NatronIsMean
Footballguy
I agree with your thinking. Edwards is another to keep in mind, but Sage has seemingly been more reliable across his starts. His lows were two 7 point outtings, where Edwards' lows were: 1, 3, 3, and 4 in my format. Seems to be a lower floor for Edwards IMO...EDIT: Also have Rivers vs Detroit as an option...
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That is sound reasoning right there. I am sold.I guess my only real question at this point is are we absolutely certain that Sage is the one starting this week?
shadyridr
Footballguy
Didnt they recently get torched by Grossman and Josh McCown?
shadyridr
Footballguy
Thursday night game. If he isn't then we'll know soon enough and will be able to make any changes.
No. That has not been confirmed yet. I believe this post is really more of a "Anybody rolling with Sage this week, assuming he starts" thread.
I'm starting Sage this week. I have Bulger and Schaub and I'm dropping Bulger for him. Edwards is the only other consideration. I think if Buf was at home it might be closer. Also the weather might be a factor in CLE. I usually also like the home team at night on prime time and I like the offenses vs the defenses on a short week.
I've also got AJ and I think it'll be a shoot out in HOU.
I've also got AJ and I think it'll be a shoot out in HOU.
I will be honest, that does worry me a bit.Just looking over the last 6 weeks for QB's against DenverYards, TD, Int (pass) Yards/TD (rush)Croyle - 132/1/1 - 0/0McCown + CPep - 197/3/0 - 26/0Grossman - 193/1/1 - 1/0Young - 305/1/2 - 74/1Croyle+Huard - 245/0/3 - 0/0Kitna - 252/2/0 - 5/0Against Cleveland - Clemens - 286/0/2 - 8/1Warner - 169/2/1 - 0/0Shaub - 256/2/2 - 7/0Boller - 279/1/2 - 19/0Big Ben - 278/2/1 - 49/1Hasselbeck - 318/2/1 - 17/0I am really waivering on this one. this is a tough call, IMO.and by comparison those of us with Kitna who want to bench him against SD this week....here are the last 6 vs SDYoung - 121/0/2 - 2/0Huard/Thigpen - 227/1/3 - 0/0Boller - 191/1/0 - 0/0Garrard - 189/2/0 - 4/0Manning - 328/2/6 - 0/0Bollinger/Jackson - 158/1/0 - 18/0Hopefully the Thursday Night QB curse doesnt continue
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
In my last $$... I starting Warner over Sage. However; I am in 20 or so Free leagues. Though out those leagues, I found myself benching Garrard, Eli, Big Ben, Rivers and other QBs with So so match ups. a little of this may be me just trying to make the game interesting Tomorrow; but I do expect a 240 yd / 2 TD day from Sage.
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Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Boulder Toads
Footballguy
Unless I can get real comfortable with Jeff Garcia's comeback this week, I'll be starting Sage for the 2nd week in a row over JG. I think Houston is going to have to throw the ball to win this game with their RB and OL issues; I anticipate 35-40 pass attempts. I think Sage will have his typical ~2 turnovers, but I can see him putting up a solid 225 yds and 1-2 TDs; there may be some upside to this if he can connect deep with AJ.
I sure didn't expect the 3 TDs last week vs. TB; Sage seems to play pretty well statistically at home (I'm thinking back to the 1st Titans game and last week vs. TB). OK, I'm rambling ...
I sure didn't expect the 3 TDs last week vs. TB; Sage seems to play pretty well statistically at home (I'm thinking back to the 1st Titans game and last week vs. TB). OK, I'm rambling ...
I completely agree with all of this. If not for the corners playing in Denver, this would be a no-brainer.
1996patriots
Footballguy
i'm considering sage over mcnabb (vs DAL)
also considering darius walker over fargas (very tough call)
also considering darius walker over fargas (very tough call)
TD5150
Footballguy
I'm also thinking Sage over McNabb.....I'm really on the fence.I would kick myself square in the balls if I bench my "stud" QB, McNabb, for Sage and then McNabb goes off.
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DinkinFlicka
Footballguy
Rolling with Sage? What are you smoking?
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Just love the Game.. I say out of those 20... atleast 12 of them hit the playoffs. I just check the line ups twice a week, I don't go too crazy on themWhat the hell do you do for a living?
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
switch it back.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
BIG mistake!
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
I am in the exact same boat as the Kitna/Edwards/Rosenfel owners. I have been sitting on a 1st week playoff bye for 5 weeks now and I have been rattling Week 15 around my head until it hurts (yeah not to hard, I know).
I am going with Sage for the following reasons:
1. SD is just going to tee off on Kitna. If there is a game to get knocked out - this could be one of them.
2. DET is playing better when they really go out of their way to get balanced. Both Jones and Duckett have a chance to eat clock as I do not believe SD is a lock to come out and just start scoring. In other words the 40+ attempts is no lock at all.
3. HOU is playing at home and weather will not be a factor. I am concerned about this with Edwards.
4. I can not bring myself to trust Edwards nor do I believe that BUF can keep up with the high powered offense Cleveland could possibly put on the field.
5. This league is generous with it's TD length bonus and Andre Johnson seems to be in a better position to provide a long score than either Evans or any of the DET WR's.
6. I have Evans as my #3 WR. Do not want to chance 2 BUF players in the same matchup.
I agree with the sentiment that Sage has looked in command when given the chance. It is a risk but I do not consider it any more risk than Kitna and a ton less risky than Edwards.
I am going with Sage for the following reasons:
1. SD is just going to tee off on Kitna. If there is a game to get knocked out - this could be one of them.
2. DET is playing better when they really go out of their way to get balanced. Both Jones and Duckett have a chance to eat clock as I do not believe SD is a lock to come out and just start scoring. In other words the 40+ attempts is no lock at all.
3. HOU is playing at home and weather will not be a factor. I am concerned about this with Edwards.
4. I can not bring myself to trust Edwards nor do I believe that BUF can keep up with the high powered offense Cleveland could possibly put on the field.
5. This league is generous with it's TD length bonus and Andre Johnson seems to be in a better position to provide a long score than either Evans or any of the DET WR's.
6. I have Evans as my #3 WR. Do not want to chance 2 BUF players in the same matchup.
I agree with the sentiment that Sage has looked in command when given the chance. It is a risk but I do not consider it any more risk than Kitna and a ton less risky than Edwards.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
For some reason I feel pretty confident in my Sage start over Kitna. Honestly Id be happy with 16-20 pts out of Sage so 220 yds and 1 TD should be manageable. QB is the only weak part on my team (as I assume every other Kitna owner in the playoffs as well).
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You and I are nearly in the exact same boat, and you make good points across the board.One more point to add to the Rosenfelds over Edwards argument (which I think I am finally convinced of) is that Buffalo QB's have thrown a total of 9 TD's this year....last week Edwards had 4 of those. If that is not an outlier, then I do not know what is.This seems to have grown into a glorified WDIS thread, so I apologize to all that have had to endure.
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shadyridr
Footballguy
This is a WSYS thread (Who Should You Start) and the answer is SAGE!You and I are nearly in the exact same boat, and you make good points across the board.One more point to add to the Rosenfelds over Edwards argument (which I think I am finally convinced of) is that Buffalo QB's have thrown a total of 9 TD's this year....last week Edwards had 4 of those. If that is not an outlier, then I do not know what is.This seems to have grown into a glorified WDIS thread, so I apologize to all that have had to endure.
The whole problem with Edwards is who he is playing this week, really. Cleveland gives up an average of 271/2/1 a week to QB's, so it is tough to throw away that massive week from Edwards last week when they like to give it up at that level.But I agree, that is probably his upside. Especially when you see that Buffalo is only averaging 185/.7/1 a week for their QB's.
Routilla
Footballguy
I think especially with the potential weather being a factor by Sunday, playing Sage tonight could turn out to be a decent decision.
floridamike
Footballguy
Same boat here as both my QB's (Garrard and Big Ben) are possible weather (and drawn-out-ground-game) casualties. Just pu'd Sage and may do it.
I'm in that Big Ben vs Sage boat too. Gut Check Wise....I think it will be a lot easier for Sage to get to 200+2TDs vs Ben in what could be a 13-10 kinda game with his recent stats plus the weather. Still a bit difficult to pull the trigger. Starting Sage in my Semis......just doesn't seem right.
I think that is the boat that we are all really in this week (potentially starting Sage in the semis).There may be a lot of us really happy tomorrow morning....or really unhappy. I think he is worth the risk this week. Houston likes to throw it anyway, and it looks like they will either have a banged up #2 (Dayne) or #3 (Walker) RB as their starter this week. That would seem to be making throwing even more likely, even against those good corners.
