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Anyone else disappointed with Leinarts comments? (1 Viewer)

King of the Jungle

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"I still think we are the better team." Turns around and walks away.My opinion, classless spoiled brat.How this effects his draft status, probably no effect. Haven't seen anything on it and I was a little disappointed by his reaction.I still cannot see why he is a top five pick. I have seen nothing from him that makes me think "Man, this kid is going to be a star". IMO, he is blessed with a star o-line, and multiple stars at skill positions. He will be a average NFL QB.

 
Aside from the fact that I believe this has already been discussed in other threads, I will say that any NFL team that wants to draft him has to look at this as a leadership deficiency. What's the pouty baby going to do when his team isn't head and shoulders above the rest of their competition because they're able to load their team with all of the best possible talent? The playing field will get better and more even when he is in the NFL. I am not yet convinced that he can handle that effectively.

 
Aside from the fact that I believe this has already been discussed in other threads, I will say that any NFL team that wants to draft him has to look at this as a leadership deficiency. What's the pouty baby going to do when his team isn't head and shoulders above the rest of their competition because they're able to load their team with all of the best possible talent? The playing field will get better and more even when he is in the NFL. I am not yet convinced that he can handle that effectively.
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That's a very good point. If this guy reacts like that after a big loss what is he going to do after a full season playing for a team like N.O.?
 
King of the Jungle,

What would have been the best response he could have given? How about the worst?

Thanks.
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I'm not Kind of the Jungle but I'll take a stab;BEST;

"You have to give them credit tonight they simply outplayed us and were the better team. I'm a bit disappointed we didn't play up to our abilities tonight but am proud of what our team was able to accomplish this season."

WORST;

"I think we're still the better team and the ####### ref's sucked!" and then turn around and run away. I guess we should give him credit for not going that far. I guess.

 
the interview was minutes after he just lost the national title game in the last game of his career. I don't blame him if he's a bit caught up with the emotions and saying things like that. The game was so close, it's not a reach for anyone to think USC is still the better team. Granted, Leinart could have said the textbook answer that everyone expects, but I believe the interview just caught a kid at a very emotional time. We've all said things in situations where we didn't actually mean it haven't we?

 
We've all said things in situations where we didn't actually mean it haven't we?
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Plenty of pro-athletes do. It often comes back to haunt them. Definitely worth counting toward "leadership potential" imo. If you're a CB then leadership is way down the list of qualities you need to be a success. If you're a QB it's pretty high up there.
 
the interview was minutes after he just lost the national title game in the last game of his career. I don't blame him if he's a bit caught up with the emotions and saying things like that. The game was so close, it's not a reach for anyone to think USC is still the better team. Granted, Leinart could have said the textbook answer that everyone expects, but I believe the interview just caught a kid at a very emotional time. We've all said things in situations where we didn't actually mean it haven't we?
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:goodposting: Put it in perspective. Second loss ofhis career in the biggest and last game of his career. He sure wasn't diplomatic and smooth, but he was far from terrible. not the greatest postgame comments, but far from the worst.

 
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Leinart also made some reference to his defense not being able to tackle Young. I think Leinart had to be disappointed that he came back to USC:1- His draft stock probably went from 1 to 2 or 32- Runner-up Heisman3- Lost the national championship because the other QB outplayed him.

 
The worst comment he could have made?"We're still the better team. If it weren't for the stupid play calling by our coaches, who should have realized our ineffective running backs couldn't gain one yard on 4th and 1, and the incredibly inept performance by our O-line, who failed to push the defenders back when I sneaked on 4th and 1, and the abysmal play by our defense, who couldn't tackle Vince Young in a telephone booth, and the dropped passes by our receivers, we would have won this game easily."Welcome to the NFL, Leon.

 
the interview was minutes after he just lost the national title game in the last game of his career. I don't blame him if he's a bit caught up with the emotions and saying things like that. The game was so close, it's not a reach for anyone to think USC is still the better team. Granted, Leinart could have said the textbook answer that everyone expects, but I believe the interview just caught a kid at a very emotional time. We've all said things in situations where we didn't actually mean it haven't we?
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:goodposting: Put it in perspective. Second loss ofhis career in the biggest and last game of his career. He sure was diplomatic and smooth, but he was far from terrible. not the greatest postgame comments, but far from the worst.
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:goodposting: Well said. It could have been much worse. I don't think he knew how to react because he really hasn't had to deal with losing in awhile - and never a game this big. I was mad at first when he said that but after thinking it over, I also thought it could've been worse and the timing was tough. I do hope Leinart and Bush going over to the Texas locker room and congratulating Young and Co. was as sincere as the media makes it sound instead of being pushed over by Coach Carroll (ya never know). When I watched the postgame interviews of Bush and Leinart, I was much more impressed with Bush. Leinart had a verbal tick going by ending every statement with "so..." Bush was more poised. I guess we'll see how Leinart's leadership is next year. How quickly will he play the patented-Brady-esque disrespect card to motivate his team?

The comment I saw that was really out of place was Will Ferrell reminding Young that "The Texans already have a quarterback." No punchline. Crowd silent. He shut up after that. :bag:

 
I like how the outrage is over how he didn't deliver the typical cliched response we've all grown to expect our athletes to say.

 
We've all said things in situations where we didn't actually mean it haven't we?
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Or rather, said something we did mean, when social correctness tells us we should lie.
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:goodposting: no doubt. I'm sure every single player to a man on USC thinks they're a better team then Texas and I don't blame them one bit. The difference in the game was a few yards.

What I find funny is people just waiting to jump down Leinart's throat just because of this comment. I don't think the comments change his draft status at all. It wouldnt for me at least.

 
I am absolutely OUTRAGED...How dare Matt Leinart actually speak his mind instead of giving the packed, gift-wrapped, bull**** answer of "Two great teams were on the field today and it was a great effort on both sides"!!!!There some was bad officiating (albeit on both sides, but 2 especially hurt USC), bad coaching decisions, and bonehead plays on USC's part during that game...Leinart was frustrated and someone stuck a mic in his face immediately after losing the National Championship game. I'm happy he actually spoke his mind and you know what, I think it actually shows great team spirit. And if you really want to be techincal about it... a case could be made for USC being the better TEAM. Remove Matt Leinart from USC and plug in an average QB. They still have potential to dominate. Remove Vince Young from Texas and plug in an average QB. You have no supporting cast to make up for it.Matt Leinart, I'll take your leadership on the Dolphins any day of the week.This is all coming from a PSU fan too, so don't try to call this a homer post.

 
Only thing this thread shows to me, is that we have thought a bunch more about what Matt Leinart said after the game than he did before it came out his mouth.

 
I thought his comments were fine and showed maturity. I watched the interview. He is better than Carson Palmer and all of you will find that out soon enough.

 
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And if you really want to be techincal about it... a case could be made for USC being the better TEAM. Remove Matt Leinart from USC and plug in an average QB. They still have potential to dominate. Remove Vince Young from Texas and plug in an average QB. You have no supporting cast to make up for it.
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Sounds like somebody who has never watched a UT game before. Texas has a top 10 defense and offense. USC has an average defense at best. Texas won several games this year by defense alone and/or one of their several RBs taking over for a struggling Young. This was Young's BEST game ever... it showed what he can do... not what he has done on a regular basis. UT won - they are the National Champs - USC is not as good. Period.Hook 'em!

 
No, not period. Either team could have easily won that game. You say it was Vince Young's greatest game ever and I agree. That also means it took Vince Young's best ever to barely edge out USC, a team you say has an average at best D. Both teams, with Young and Leinart included, are clearly the cream of the crop this year in college football. I think all this game showed is that they were very equal. It's not as simple as saying "USC is not as good. Period".

 
He certainly doesn't appear to have the humility that we have seen from the Peyton Mannings/Tom Bradys/Donovan McNabbs of the world. I was not at all impressed with his interview...I know he was pissed cause he just lost the game, but he came off as arrogant and bitter...not exactly qualities that are endearing.I still think he'll be alright in the NFL, but if that's the attitude he's gonna bring, his career may go more like Kerry Collin's than Tom Brady's.

 
What's so wrong with thinking that you actually have the better team? He thinks it, he said it, doesn't mean squat.

 
I thought his comments were fine and showed maturity. I watched the interview. He is better than Carson Palmer and all of you will find that out soon enough.
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No, his comments showed immaturity and a lack of ability to cope when things don't go as planned. This will in no way affect his draft status, but it definitely tells alot of his character. If he can't handle losing a big game now, how will he handle losing many games to whichever crappy teams picks him???
 
gotta love a bunch of 40 year olds criticizing a college kid for being immature...

lighten up people.
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Ummm...this board is all about 40 year olds criticizing 20 year olds. I thought that was the point. But thanks for being the voice of reason.
 
Matt Leinart, I'll take your leadership on the Dolphins any day of the week.
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You already had Matt Leinart on the Dolphins awhile back. He was named "Scott Mitchell."
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:goodposting: Ryan Leaf anyone?
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Exactly...only without the pure talent.I listened to a lot of his postgame comments, not only the ones on the field. He placed fault on his teammates more than once, would take credit away from Texas by saying things like USC lost the game more than Texas won it only to then give the obligitory, "but, you have to give Texas Credit".

My first reaction was he is a very immature player and will have trouble being a leader. Add that to the fact that his pure physical skills aren't outstanding and I don't know if he'll be able to become a good NFL QB.

Hopefully, for him at least, it's only a reflection of his coach. Players often take on the personality of their coach and Caroll is pretty arrogant. Maybe, when he's with a different coach in a situation when his team is not head and shoulders above 9/10ths of every team they play, he'll come back down to earth.

 
My initial reaction was, "what a spoiled brat . . . just admit that you got outplayed. Take it like a man."After some consideration, however, I think that is a bit harsh. Most of his comments were genuinely respectful of Texas (although didn't he slip and say something about USC winning?). He has had no training in handling a loss, and a loss of this magnitude in his final collegiate game on the biggest stage had to have hurt deeply. There was enormous pressure on him, and I am certain he felt he had let so many down.Ultimately, this loss may help him to be a better QB. It will certainly help shape his character.While his PR skills were far from polished, he did not strike me as a Ryan Leaf-type egotistical *-hole.

 
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My initial reaction was, "what a spoiled brat . . . just admit that you got outplayed. Take it like a man."

After some consideration, however, I think that is a bit harsh. Most of his comments were genuinely respectful of Texas (although didn't he slip and say something about USC winning?). He has had no training in handling a loss, and a loss of this magnitude in his final collegiate game on the biggest stage had to have hurt deeply. There was enormous pressure on him, and I am certain he felt he had let so many down.

Ultimately, this loss may help him to be a better QB. It will certainly help shape his character.

While his PR skills were far from polished, he did not strike me as a Ryan Leaf-type egotistical *-hole.
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A loss isn't going to shape his character. Competition and adversity shape character. Losing reveals it.
 
I think there is some major over-reaction here. Ryan Leaf? I had friends who went to wazzu and everyone hated him, even when he was supposed to be the "big man on campus". Before this one moment, Leinart hasn't shown any Leaf like attitude problems has he?

 
I am confused. I'm confused that this stuff comes from players from a team other than the University of Alabama. That's the type of stuff their fans after getting beaten by Auburn year after year. We were the better team, they got lucky and won it, yada yada yada. He sounded a bit like Brodie Croyle to me.

 
It's probably something he wishes he could have back that's for sure. But let's look at it with an open mind. It's not like he stomped on a player's leg or anything. If he had a history of making bad comments I'd label him a crybaby, but it was a very emotional loss.And for the record, I think both Bush AND Leinart have been WAY OVER-HYPED and will not be as good in the NFL as people think. I only point that out to verify that I am not some USC homer just sticking up for a favorite player.

 
I will say I was dissapointed to hear his comments, but understanding. I defended Mora's comments in the heat of just getting knocked out of the playoffs and I think this is a similar situation. You shove a camera in a kids face, who obviously is very dissapointed, and ask him stupid questions, your going to sometimes get stupid comments. If I read 3 days later where he still says they are a better team, than I think he's a fool and dead wrong as well.

 
I didn't even bother to read through this whole thread so I apologize if it's been mentioned already.... buuuuuut, you guys do all realize that both Matt and Reggie later went to the Texas LOCKER ROOM to congragulate the Longhorns personally, right? Classless? I think not. Emotional after loosing the National Title game? Yes. This is a and should be a nonstory IMO.

 
I didn't even bother to read through this whole thread so I apologize if it's been mentioned already.... buuuuuut, you guys do all realize that both Matt and Reggie later went to the Texas LOCKER ROOM to congragulate the Longhorns personally, right? Classless? I think not. Emotional after loosing the National Title game? Yes. This is a and should be a nonstory IMO.
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I am glad to read this. I know immediately after the game I was calling Leinert every bad name in the book, after hearing his comments (reacting much more childlike than he did :) Then when I thought about it some more, I said "what the heck would I say in that situation?" Probably something like "get that f'n camera out of my face" and gone Ryan Leaf or Kenny Rogers on the guy. Does anyone else think the media needs to take a step back and give these guys some breathing room? I know we all want to see the reactions of these players and the interviews, but I think it just begs for trouble and true knee jerk reactions.

 
This really seems like much ado about nothing. Sure he was unpolished and immature. but he was in a crushing, demoralizing situation thet he'd never had to deal with before and he came off as a hurt boy lashing out. big surprise. By the time he gets to another situation anywhere NEAR the imprtance of that game he'll have had years of tutelage from seasoned professionals on all levels. Including this verbal mishap (far short of verbal diarhhea), he'll have had immeasurable learniin experiences and emotional growth because of it. This is a very minor dark smudge on his record, it shouldn't matter much and doesn't "tell his character" yet. Give the guy a break. If he makes more comments like that or dive bombs further, then yeah he might be a jerk. But for now it's a blip and of very little consequence as a stand alone telltale of the guy's mental state.

 
The masses are conditioned to "correct" responses. An individual speaking his or her mind will be frowned upon. Carry on...

 
The masses are conditioned to "correct" responses. An individual speaking his or her mind will be frowned upon. Carry on...
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OK, besides the fact that about 5 other people in this thread have basically said the same thing, let's look at this. This isn't politics or music or religion we're talking about here. We're talking about a person who has not shied away from the cameras nor had anything negative to say when he was put in the driver's seat of a juggernaut team. The media is kissing your ###, the public is kissing your ###, you are on top of the world rubbing elbows with movie stars, etc. It's all easy to do when you are everybody's darling. But suddenly things change. You are in the biggest game of your life (and yes, I think this year's Rose Bowl was the biggest game of his life), and everyone is all but handing you the trophy before the ball is even kicked off. Again, it's easy to be all smiles and grace. But then everything collapses. You get beat. I don't care if you are frustrated- if you are truly a leader and a respectful person, you give credit to the team that topped you- without the caveats, without the qualifications, without the excuses. You suck it up and be a man.

When he started shooting off at the mouth about how they were still a better team, they "marched up and down the field on them all day", your defense couldn't get the job done, etc. he came off like a spoiled and arrogant little brat who is used to getting everything he wants when he wants. And now that things aren't going his way he feels the need to "speak his mind". I think as an NFL team that is looking to draft him, this reveals things about his character that I would question before I shelled out the kind of money that he is probably going to command. If he gets sacked 5 times in a game is he going to get frustrated and start whining to the media about how is O-Line isn't getting the job done? If he throws 3 INT's is he going to cry about receivers not running correct routes? Anyone who says this type of behavior isn't a concern for an NFL team is kidding themselves.

 
Aside from the fact that I believe this has already been discussed in other threads, I will say that any NFL team that wants to draft him has to look at this as a leadership deficiency. What's the pouty baby going to do when his team isn't head and shoulders above the rest of their competition because they're able to load their team with all of the best possible talent? The playing field will get better and more even when he is in the NFL. I am not yet convinced that he can handle that effectively.
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Pouty little baby who was afraid to go pro and decided to take the easy route of staying in school and taking ballroom dance.
 
This thread should be locked due to all the fake rage...Leinart's comment caught my attention too, but he said it right after going out of his way to compliment Young. I actually like the fact that he said that. He is a competitor and even in defeat isn't about to roll over and die.And he was probably correct. USC is likely the better team. They just got whooped by one of the best college football athletes that's come along in a long while.IF they played a seven game series, my money would be on USC to win it.

 
They are better
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Uh no Texas is the better team and proved it on the field.
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What was proven was that USC couldn't tackle to save their lives.
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Isn't tackling part of being a good football team? If you can't tackle the opposing team's players then I guess you're not as good of team as you think. Football is tackling the opposing team when on defense and avoid being tackled when on offense. Texas proved to be the better team on the field, not in the media or fan's minds.
 
This thread should be locked due to all the fake rage...

Leinart's comment caught my attention too, but he said it right after going out of his way to compliment Young. I actually like the fact that he said that. He is a competitor and even in defeat isn't about to roll over and die.

And he was probably correct. USC is likely the better team. They just got whooped by one of the best college football athletes that's come along in a long while.

IF they played a seven game series, my money would be on USC to win it.
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I don't remember seeing Vince Young play defense for the Longhorns? Just like your money was on USC for the Rose Bowl right? Texas is the better team and proved it where it counts on the field. West Coast whinners. And another thing USC only won 1 National Championship, deal with it.
 
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