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Anyone not like Eddie Lacy? (1 Viewer)
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TonyRockyHorror
Footballguy
Dynasty league, I'm 0-3 and weak at RB. Put A. Jeffery on the trading block yesterday and got this offer: Lacey and TY HIlton, for Jeffery and 2015 1st round pick. I countered with Lacey and Michael Floyd, and got denied. Not sure what I expected for Jeffery, but just don't feel like I'm getting enough with Lacey/Hilton?
I'd trade Alshon for Lacy but not the first for TY Hilton. Luck spreads the ball and there's 6 pass catchers in that offense. Guys like Hilton, VJax, Desean are lineup killers because 2/3rds of the time they score nothing. And when they go off, half the time you don't even need the extra points because you would have won anyway. I prefer consistent players, though.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Yeah, don't take that deal as is. Hilton isn't worth a 1st round pick and Jeffery has as much value as Lacy at this point.
TonyRockyHorror
Footballguy
Hey Thanks Guys!
Just had another offer come in: J. Charles/K. Davis/A. Hurns/J. Kerley/His 3rd round FOR Jeffery/Ridley and My 2015 Second and 2015 Fourth.
TonyRockyHorror
Footballguy
I'm considering giving Jeffery, so I would definitely do Garcon....But it depends on your other WR strength, and I'm also in a Dynasty so having a young primary RB is a plus.
jackdubl
Footballguy
Well, it's because that's how they did it last year, and it worked then.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I think Im going to offer Sproles for Lacy, non-ppr, but I almost feel like Im giving away too much.
Righetti
Footballguy
I think that this is the week Lacy breaks out and has a nice run.. 22/100/1 type day.. last week Ivory ran all over the Bears, they had no answer for him. The only way they slowed him down was when Rex and Marty decided to take him out basically the entire 4th quarter for Bilal Powell
Oh, get off it. He played three of the top 5 run defenses in the league the first three games. What happened when McCoy played against ONE top 5 run defense? 3 points, that's what. I'm still on the Lacy train and think he finishes well in the top 10, if not top 5.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I think it's crazy to downgrade him after the defenses he's faced but people are going to believe whatever they want to believe (myself included). You can choose to simply ignore the fact that he's gone against the #1, 2. & 3 def lines and throw out "he looks slow". I choose to throw out that he's consistently running into a buzz saw.
Now, that being said, if he doesn't put up 100 yards and a TD this week you can forward all posts to suicide watch.
Now, that being said, if he doesn't put up 100 yards and a TD this week you can forward all posts to suicide watch.
Pots
Footballguy
This is the real concern. He doesn't have to get 100 and a TD, but his value drops entirely if he looks bad or gets dinged.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Well its a big money league with long time friends and that guy always makes horrible trades.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I'm expecting a monster week for him. As stated above, he's faced the top three run defenses in the league and has been blown up behind the line in each game. Run game got called out by his coach this week, facing an already less-than-stellar defense that is going to have to supplement its injured secondary. This is one of those games that I expect fear of Rodgers to open up lanes for Lacy. Queue Larry scoffing uncontrollably.
Bold prediction: top rusher this weekend and scores. twice.
Bold prediction: top rusher this weekend and scores. twice.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
The Packers throw the ball first and goal more than anyone I have ever seen. Very frustrating as a Lacy owner. I don't see many touchdowns this year for Lacy. Not getting enough touches for many yards either.
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
They complain about the run game not being what it should be, then proceed to execute a 3:1 pass/run ratio game plan. Why act surprised at the run game being poor when you have very little intention of establishing the run anyway?
cstu
Footballguy
LionOfGosforth
Footballguy
1st and 3 from the 3 yard line, let's run the clock down a bit right? Nahhh, let's throw again! Lacy doesn't help himself but man this is some amazing game plan they have. Hey, it's working today though right
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Bounced out for a nice TD run....called back by a flag..would've made 2 today
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mozzy84
Footballguy
the hold was why he scored though. He's looked pretty terrible
sho nuff
Footballguy
He has danced some...but relatively few carries in a blow out with the Bears secondary being that bad...coupled with being hit at or near the line a lot.
The run blocking was poor today.
He wasn't great...no doubt. Several times he just danced when running straight ahead would have given him a few more yards. But we are talking about maybe adding 20 more yards total.
But when Rodgers sees Conte on Cobb...they will throw it that way every time and be out of any though of running the ball.
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JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I think facing Green Bay is why these three defenses look so good.
I like Lacy and don't think he's the problem. But there is a problem obviously.
I think he's being called slow because, like a good back should be, he's patient waiting for the hole. But what happens when you wait for a hole that never appears?
If they are nitpicking his pad level as the reason for his struggles, to me that's a near admission that it's blocking issues and they simply aren't wanting to publicly humiliate the o-line. So they find a way to spread the criticism around in an effort to maintain as much morale as possible.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
17 rushes against the 7th worst run defense in the league this year--and he doesn't even manage 50yrds. His team scored 38 points--against a rush defense that is giving up an average of 5 yrds per carry--and he can't even average 3 yrds per carry. Don't get me wrong--I like Lacy--and I think he's a buy low--but today did not raise his value at all in my eyes. A week ago--every Lacy supporter was blaming his ineptitude on Rodgers being off--as well as a tough schedule. Well today his QB was on fire--his team was moving the ball--and he was going against a very weak run defense---and in this dream scenario--he gets 48 yrds and a td? I'd definitely try to buy him as solid RB2 material with nice upside--but today did nothing to establish him as an RB1--yet alone an elite RB1
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Pots
Footballguy
JamesTheScot
Footballguy
I think his dancing is still a symptom of poor blocking. If a back is approaching the LOS at what we might call a trot, he's patiently watching for the hole to appear but he's still going to get the linemen's backsides eventually. So if he does so and no hole really opens up he's got to choose between running up their backs, or he has to try and bounce it outside (which he isn't really built to do), or he dances a bit to buy some time hoping a crease eventually opens up that he can exploit.
He may be at the point where he has to instead trust his o-line...to suck...so that he simply lowers his shoulder and tries to blow up both his own linemen and the d-linemen at the same time.
