Pete went on to say "I like big RB's and I can not lie, they said he's fat, but I'm not down with that"
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Anyone not like Eddie Lacy? (1 Viewer)
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The Kerminator
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in BBQ sauceDr. Brew said:
ourmanflint
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Lacy can be effective if he's stays healthy. Problem is his running style and his life style are not conducive to him staying healthy.
I agree if healthy. But 3 million guaranteed before he loses a pound? At 267lbs his market would be almost nil. I think they could have made it more incentive laden. Im not sure how motivated he will be to earn that extra 2 mil knowing he'll get another contract from another sucker in a year.
Shutout
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On this team, he will have every chance in the world to rush for 12+ TDs, even if they are mainly short yardage goal line. TDs are the great equalizer in ff for a rb so although he may not be svelte and rush for 1650/14, he will have very good value in ff considering on any given week he will be a legitimate threat for 1-2 short yardage TDs plus some game-killing yardage.
ourmanflint
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Shutout
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That's true for any player and, as rbs go, lacy has been pretty durable. I think if we are assuming it is a given he is going to miss games, we are probably over reacting to last year. The first three years of his career, he played in 15,16, and 15 games. How many rbs in this league miss only two games in three years?
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ourmanflint
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He played in 15 games in 2015. You weren't happy if you drafted him though. He was pretty average and ineffective and he was struggling with his weight by most accounts. I just see a downward trend on this guy and weight seems to be a part of it. If he's in shape, I agree with all your points.
Shutout
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I guess that is depending on perspective but I wouldn't say extremely in any case because marshawn Lynch pretty much put up that many TDs every year he was in Seattle while battling injuries. I think Seattle and their qb and skill players pose more stress on teams now than they did then in terms of options in the red zone. I'm not saying I think lacy becomes a guy that wows us with 125+ and is a juggernaut but I can easily see 50 yards a game just based on situation and I think the seahawks seem to be one of those teams that find themselves in short yardage goal line situations quite a bit. Just my thoughts
DropKick
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Maybe he just wants a big back in case the Hawks get a pivotal 1st and goal from the one...
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Four years later I'm finally getting into the spirit of the thread title!
Marshawn Lynch>>>>>>Eddie Lacy for starters, but I think you're way off-base about the current Seattle team. They only had 13 rushing TDs last year and 10 the year before, and that's team-wide. They have one of if not the worst offensive lines in the NFL.
voiceofunreason
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Unless their line improves massively they are now a passing team. Also Rawls will get a piece of that pie.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Lacy's contract has weight bonuses. I guess we will see if money motivates him
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18913291/eddie-lacy-contract-seattle-seahawks-includes-weight-bonus
However, $385k is nothing when you're guaranteed 3 mil already.
Also, SEA wants him at 240? So he's got to lose 27 pounds in 5 months? Yikes.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18913291/eddie-lacy-contract-seattle-seahawks-includes-weight-bonus
However, $385k is nothing when you're guaranteed 3 mil already.
Also, SEA wants him at 240? So he's got to lose 27 pounds in 5 months? Yikes.
hoffman0001
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267 Pounds? No bueno. Mt $$$ in on LACY being a bust and Rahls is the value play here. Grab Rahls on the cheap in all formats and sit on him.
Interseptopus
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I share this same point of view but with Prosise. I think both are a buy with potential upside
ourmanflint
Footballguy
Could be another Tampa Bay from last year. 3 decent backs but lots of different starters due to injury. Not calling Prosise injury prone but last year wasn't a great indicator of durability. Rauls injury history speaks for itself. Fatman is not on my target list either. The situation doesn't look very predictable or stable.
jeaton6
Footballguy
At 267 already are we certain they aren't asking him to just gain 27 more pounds to help with the O-line woes?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
That would be done by May. Could have some creative OL reporting eligible formations
If he gets to training camp below 250 I'll be pretty surprised. If he keeps the weight off I'd be even more surprised.
My prediction: He's out of football after this contract. I hope he has a good investment firm.
Interseptopus
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Interseptopus
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OK. I'll trust your eyes over an independent reporter with inside information on what the scale actually said. Fair enough
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Obviously I have no idea, but admit that he looks pretty good in that picture. He's look a lot more sloppy if he was 267.
It would also be hard to believe that the Hawks would sign him for $5.5MM ($3MM guaranteed?) if he was pushing 270. They're a pretty well run organization. That would seem pretty irresponsible.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
MIN GB and SEA offered similar contracts. He took Seattle to be in a run-first offense. Seattle's deal has weight incentives built into it.
jeaton6
Footballguy
Minny isn't expected to be a run first offense? Seems like least competition for him in Minny. SEA has shifted away from Run first. What am I missing here?
Interseptopus
Footballguy
MIN OL was horrid for running the ball. Seattle went away from running the ball but historically they re run first. Wikson had his worst season ever being asked to carry the team. That team works better with Wilson managing the game and them running the ball.
WheelsUp
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I have no doubt he is maybe 245ish in that pick based off height and size. He looks to have a belly still, but he always has. I have a coworker about his size in height but much bigger and he is sloppy. He weighs 280. If Lacy is 267, he hides it well. Muscle is more tight and fat is fluffy, but it weighs the same.
I broke down a dudes weight way too much bordering on creepy levels. gotta step away, lol.
I broke down a dudes weight way too much bordering on creepy levels. gotta step away, lol.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Care to elaborate? Which part don't you agree with?
MIN had a bad OL and couldn't run the ball?
SEA is better when they run first?
Wilson had his worst statistical season as a pro while SEA didn't run the ball last year?
all of that can be backed up by facts, records and statistics
Pretty sure his passing numbers were pretty similar to other years but his rushing was way way down. Unless you count all the running for his life he was doing behind the line because they couldn't block for poop.
Wilson was hurt for most of the season. I think Seattle is trying to be more of a passing team. They were a running team when they had Beast mode and Wilson was less experienced. But whether they're a pass first or run first team neither will work with a crappy OL.
steelers1080
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Lacy in that pic could be 267. But it would be surprising. The implication would be that he's got a lot of muscle and high muscle density (because muscle weighs more than fat). In that pic he looks like 255 to me. That's not to say that he didn't lose the weight between visits. If an athlete who has put on some pounds goes on a crash diet/doesn't stuff their face for 5 days, there's a chance they could drop 10 lbs.
He could do great in Seattle if they draft Oline in the first 2 rounds.
He could do great in Seattle if they draft Oline in the first 2 rounds.
Interseptopus
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Career low for passer rating
Career High for INT
Career high in passing yards/attempts.
I don't think that's a ringing endorsement for Wilson to get the workload of Aaron Rodgers
Sure comparing those numbers to the next one down isn't terrible however the biggest issue IMO is comparing him to 2015. He had an amazing season in 2015 and a huge let down in 16 compared to then, when they ran the ball an awful lot more (477 attempts in 2015 vs 283 in 2016)
Interseptopus
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Phase of the Game
Footballguy
Here is a source that said he weighed in at 267.WheelsUp said:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/eddie-lacy-weight-seattle-seahawks-contract-nfl-free-agency/vucw9z2iy1zo1pgmr5tkhdz85
steelers1080
Footballguy
Lol, a trip down memory lane is always good for laughs. I remember when people used to tout Lacy over Bell. Oops.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
He's always looked like a slim fat guy TBH. But regardless I think arguing over what we see vs what's reported is just worthless. We can agree to disagree on this
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Vegas odds on Lacy this year
Eddie Lacy
Over/under rushing yards: 950
Over/under rushing touchdowns: 7.5
Eddie Lacy
Over/under rushing yards: 950
Over/under rushing touchdowns: 7.5
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
hack job
whatever fits your talking points. 
Again, I'm done debating subjective versus objective information. It's like comparing apples to corned beef. Keep telling yourself whatever you need to make you feel better about your team. I see this every day in my job. It's not worth my time to debate it.
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WheelsUp
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Ironic Brew, as you brought it back up with your remark, not me. This time, make sure you are actually done debating it. ;-)
Lacy is a fat man, no one disagrees, but 267? Naive to think that. Its so amazing people see that picture and say he is 267.
There are multiple pictures circulating, none look at 267. Google what a guy who is 5'11 and 270 looks like.
My guess is 250 ish right now. The numbers in the incentive line up.
Field Yates 33minutes ago
Eddie Lacy's weight incentives breakdown ($55k for each month achieved)
May: 255 lbs
June & August: 250 lbs
September-December: 245 lbs
I wanna add, what is up with talking positive about a player mean you own them or have an agenda? Are people that simple minded and short sighted? Do we have to constantly talk negative about players to feel cool and accepted?
Lacy is a fat man, no one disagrees, but 267? Naive to think that. Its so amazing people see that picture and say he is 267.
There are multiple pictures circulating, none look at 267. Google what a guy who is 5'11 and 270 looks like.
My guess is 250 ish right now. The numbers in the incentive line up.
Field Yates 33minutes ago
Eddie Lacy's weight incentives breakdown ($55k for each month achieved)
May: 255 lbs
June & August: 250 lbs
September-December: 245 lbs
I wanna add, what is up with talking positive about a player mean you own them or have an agenda? Are people that simple minded and short sighted? Do we have to constantly talk negative about players to feel cool and accepted?
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