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The empty seats will force Bowlen's hand.
Please name another time in the history of the NFL when a backup QB was given a charity start in his hometown.
Most likely the Broncos are going to be 1-4 going into Miami, why not give Tebow a chance? Orton is completing 57% of his passes and has 5 TD's / 3 Int's.Tebow grew up in Jacksonville, not Miami.
Because Orton is the better QB and because those passing stats are still better than what Tebow put up last year.
It's not even a given that Tebow is the backup QB in the Broncos' eyes. The backup may very well be Quinn right now.
Nobody will come to the stadium to watch Brady Quinn play football for a bad team. No people = no concessions revenue.They WILL come out to see Tebow play football for a bad team. He is a polarizing figure, like it or not.
Imagine the Texans' embarrassment then.
I agree Quinn isn't a huge draw. Not sure Tebow is a huge draw but I agree he's a stronger one than Quinn.But that's not my point. Fox and Elway clearly have issues with Tebow. Don't forget at one point he was rumored to have dropped to fourth string on the preseason depth chart. There have been reports that Quinn is next in line should Orton falter and be benched. Given everything that's happened and given what clearly appears to be an anti-Tebow sentiment of some kind on the part of Fox and Elway, I would not be the least bit surprised if Quinn got the first chance to start should a change be made for whatever reason.
So the Broncos will make their decision on starting QB based on who will fill Alltel Stadium?
"Ticket sales" does not equal actual "attendance." Empty seats can't buy beer.
Yeah... Denver is the rare team that plays all road games.
It's not hard to embarrass the Texans' pass D. "The Texans (6-10) lost eight of their last 10 games, mostly because of a defense that ranked as one of the NFL's worst. Houston finished 30th in yards allowed (386.6 per game) and last against the pass (267.5 yards per game)."
How do you know the seats were empty? I can make up facts when I'm drunk too, ya know.
Oh, I'm sorry. Let's only look at his numbers against GOOD pass defenses so it better suits your argument.It's not hard to embarrass the Texans' pass D. "The Texans (6-10) lost eight of their last 10 games, mostly because of a defense that ranked as one of the NFL's worst. Houston finished 30th in yards allowed (386.6 per game) and last against the pass (267.5 yards per game)."
Setting the bar a little low aren't we?
That's one way of thinking. But don't forget, the glimpses he showed last year was in the McDaniels offense. If Fox and company KNOWS that Tebow will look completely lost on the field in their offense, they have to ignore the public outcry to start him because it might kill his value completely.Who the hell knows.
I just enjoy watching him play. The guy will run through a brick wall to help the team.If the Broncos play the Crimson Tide than Tebow should definitely be the man!!! This probably won't happen because Elway doesn't want anyone to be more popular than him in Denver so he would keep Tebow on the bench.Oh, I'm sorry. Let's only look at his numbers against GOOD pass defenses so it better suits your argument.It's not hard to embarrass the Texans' pass D. "The Texans (6-10) lost eight of their last 10 games, mostly because of a defense that ranked as one of the NFL's worst. Houston finished 30th in yards allowed (386.6 per game) and last against the pass (267.5 yards per game)."
Setting the bar a little low aren't we?
I actually like Tim Tebow but I am getting sick and tired about hearing about a conspiracy theory against him by the media and the Broncos. He will get his shot IF he earns it.
Elway didn't draft him. The current regime has no personal ties to him and it's pretty obvious they aren't huge fans. I agree with you that it makes sense for a team going nowhere to give Tebow a shot and at least find out if he can play or not. But that doesn't appear to be what Fox and Elway have in mind. They appear to be completely committed to Orton and even appear to have more belief in Quinn than Tebow. Given how stubborn they've been with this situation I'm not sure they will buckle to public pressure anytime soon.
This is such strange logic. When does a 1-4 team ever decide "Why not play the backups?" I can't picture Fox and his assistants going into meetings after their fourth loss, and just looking at each other and saying, "welp, guess it's Tebow-time." That just won't happen.The "why not" is that Tebow, like Josh Harris, Omar Jacobs, and Alex Smith before him, had college success in a spread variation of a run-option offense, something very different than anything being run in the NFL. By the way, all of those guys I just mentioned were Urban Meyer players/recruits. Chris Leak too. All guys that played in the same system as Tebow, had success, but had no hope in the League. Tebow, unlike Alex Smith, had horrible mechanics coming out, and even showed a lack of intelligence in interviews. Smith aced the Wonderlic, gave great interviews, and nailed throwing exercises, but he still couldn't craft a professional game. Is it really that hard to understand why Tebow's not starting?
Huh, Jacksonville. I wonder what nfl team he cheered for?
So much this.
Right on! Is there a Tebow package to prevent a 55 yard pass completion to the opposing team's BACKUP TE that decided the game?A player everyone's ignoring is lack of the EX defense captain D.J Williams, the center piece of Denver D.
My God, I just joined this site, please tell me I won't be in for statements like this on the regular. This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard a pro-Tebower say. And I've heard them say a lot of ridiculous things.
This is based on what? What exactly makes Orton's game incapable of existing over a whole season?
Why is it when people argue for Tebow, they always fall back on abstract metaphors, like "He has grit." or "He gives you an adrenaline boost." or "He just knows how to win/make plays." Last I checked, plays are made by executing them, which he has proven to be very bad at. I'm not sure what "adrenaline boost" you're suggesting he might bring, unless you mean the hightened stress of bringing along a young, mechanically defective, slow-learning quarterback. To suggest that Tebow could increase the intensity level or the excitement of an NFL game just by being there is... well, it's absolutely ridiculous.
As a guy who mainly focuses on numbers, I understand what you are saying. And, an NFL QB must be able to make throws, and Tebow cannot do that a lot of the time.However, he did show last year in his starts that he can put points on the board, somehow.Also, to think that Tebow starting will not bring an extra level of excitement to the Bronco's home crowd is "absolutely ridiculous", imo.
Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'd rather NFL clubs make decisions based on the team itself than on the fans' hypothetical excitement.
I wouldn't discount the value of intangables. Then again Im obviously a Yankees fan and have been hearing that agrument said on Jeter's behalf for years. Some guys just have something extra that can help a team win.
I'm in the Denver market and have watched every play Tebow has run, exhib & last season. Cant throw across his body at anywhere near a pro level. Pick Six City.
I don't understand the purpose of this ceremony?? First off, Tebow is from Jacksonville. Both Jacksonville and Tampa are much closer to Gainesville than Miami is. I understand that the championship game was held in Miami but other than that - Miami has zero connection to the Florida Gators. And the Gators were the 2009 National Champions
