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Footballguy
ADP 1- 4, 8, 1, 4, 10 = 5.4If this is the case then ADP is irrelevant to those tables because they are based on after the fact numbers.I'll have to re-read it because it's been awhile. I think what it means is that if you took all the finishes of the QB1 over the ten years that they would be higher than the QB2 which would be higher than the QB3, etc. Over any specific year it will fluctuate.
That was my point from the beginning. ADP would matter more if people drafted perfectly but that doesn't happen.
ADP 2 - 1, 15, 4, 3, 9 = 6.4
ADP 3 - 7, 20, 1, 8, 3 = 7.8
3 ADP positions and their actual finishing position over 5 years. In any given year the end result looks random, over time it reflects the ADP. The early the masses draft a player the more likely the outcome will be better. If you draft to maximize ADP value, over time your results will be better than the average.
Going back to an actual example from today. 72 teams in this league so there are 6 copies of every player. One guy took Breece at 1.1. The other two copies available today went at #3 and #6. The guy who took Breece at 1 spotted the guy at 6 302 draft points. How much value is that? 1.1 and 4.7 = 1.6 and 2.12. He has basically spotted anyone getting Hall at 1.6 or later a 2.12 for a 4.7. So now not only does his flag plant on Hall have to be right, he has to find an early 3rd round talent with his 4.12 pick just to be on par.
I think you're completely wrong to look at it this way. I think you're overstating the difference if you picked Breece Hall at 1.01 when his ADP was 1.06. If it's redraft, you both got Hall with your 1st round pick so there's no "draft value" gained or lost. You're not "spotting" the guy who took Hall at 1.6 ANY draft value. Plus I've not yet been in a redraft league where you can trade picks, so "trade down and accumulate draft capital" is moot.
If you're in a different league structure that does allow trading picks, then you both have to (A) find a trade partner and (B) actually get Hall with the pick you traded down into - you aren't guaranteed to get Hall in the trade down scenario. If you don't, then you're comparing "value of Hall at 1.01" vs. "value of whoever you got (who wasn't Hall) at the tradedown spot + who you get with the extra draft picks for making the trade."