Arian Foster (1 Viewer)

[Shutout]

I have room to keep Foster on my dynasty and I will because I don't want to get caught up assuming anything. It certainly APPEARS that Tate is in a good position, but lots could happen:

-Injury could push Foster right back up.

-Tate could have ball security issues (not aware that he does now) and we all know that is DOOM to Kubiak's players.

In short, its just too early and we saw that Foster could do the job so i will hold him and, at the least, try to put him and Tate together on a fantasy team (either trading to or for). I think both will have roles that are serviceable in FF and Slayton may be the odd guy out.

Bumping for update. Looks like the injury happened and now here we are. I saw a couple people say that they didn't think much of my take on Slaton but I still think its time for people to let him go. That ship is fast leaving the port.Overall, I just don't get how a lot of people are so quick to discredit Foster and talk like we're crazy to give him a high draft value but then its ok to rank guys like Ryan Matthews even higher, despite the fact that we have at least actually seen Foster produce in real games that count? It comes down to perceptions and pre-conceived notions. People think that just because a guy was drafted in round one and the other guy wasn't that one is automatically destined to be worth it and the other isn't. I go by what I see in games and I'll stand by it: Foster is worth every bit of where he is going right now. He'll shine this year.

If you listened back then, you're smiling this morning!I've seen people talking about the o-line, etc about yesterday's game and all but I'll tell you guys, as someone who has been watching this coming, the difference is the D-LINE. The D is playing so well right now, the Texans finally have an opportunity to play, get a lead, and then are able to run the ball. THAT is the piece that has been missing. Before, they had to pass, pass, pass. But if that D plays the way it did yesterday, the sky is the limit for Foster.

 

[hotlanta]

Can we say Quentin Griffin circa 2004?

j/k j/k

I got him in the 6th round of my draft. Steal all the way.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Dynasty League Foster Owners:What would it take for you to give this guy up? Let's assume that you have good RB depth and don't necessarily need him...I think the person who said he is Houston's version of TD hit the nail on the head. I see a lot of similarities between the two--size, skillset, drafted late/not at all, and playing in essentially the same system.

I have Foster, Spiller, Bush, and DeAngelo. I would seriously consider an offer for Foster. Not because I think my depth is so great. I just wonder if Foster is the long term answer in Houston. Also, it depends on when the offer is made. I'd take less for him tonight than I would a month from now if he continues to tear it up. If Foster keeps playing like a RB1, it'll make it less likely that Houston will be concerned with bringing in heavy competition for Foster during the offseason.

I don't play in dynasty leagues, but it would seem to make more sense to keep a RB who can help you win NOW rather than trade him so it helps you in the future years, no? I mean, Foster could conceivably be huge in helping you win the league this year, but you might want to trade him now so you are in better position to win the league in later years? Seems a little off to me. This is, of course, contingent on him remaining the starter all year, which I presume he will as long as he is healthy.

I wouldn't trade him in a redraft. I'd consider it in a dynasty league.

Consider that his value might be peaked yet. The let-me-see-him-do-it-again crowd is interested and probably will not offer you a full value deal. Leverage is all on the Foster side and again, use that to pry a long term value if you are moving him. To me, he's as close to a do not trade player in dynasty based on several factors (age, system, position, ability & value).

 

[bill bates hits hard]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

 

[bulger2holt]

I think 100 yards and one TD is his weekly floor. He will catch more balls too.

 

[Nightly Mistake]

Just since no one has mentioned them that I've seen... the Texans O-line was phenomenal today. They gave Foster a lot of holes to choose from... and that really meshed well with Foster as I think his vision and patience may be two of his best attributes. On one of the NFL Network shows they were picking standout players of the day and Deon Sanders chose the Texans O-line as his choice after Mooch chose Foster.

It was hard to tell how much stock to put in the preseason performance the line had against the Cowboys, but they looked every bit as good against the Colts today... though it's probably worth considering the Colts D is undersized and they lost Bob Sanders during the game. Still, I think the next two games against the Skins and then playing the Cowboys again in a real game may give a good measure for just what we can expect this season for Foster in the way of run blocking in front of him.

I really liked what I saw from Foster himself... he seems to show more wiggle each time we get to see him. He had one play that stood out in that regard that he did at least 3 major jukes to turn what would have been a loss in the backfield into a very nice gain. But he also had a lot of great holes to run through. I think any of the RBs on the roster would have had 150 yards today the way the line was blocking.

The 'Skins D-line and frankly most of the front 7 is still adjusting to the 3-4, and the NT position is where they're the worst. I could see Foster ripping them the way that the Cowboys runners did for most of the night last night. I'd say Foster is a must-start this week.Disclosure- I'm both a 'Skins fan and a (very happy) Foster owner.

 

[eoMMan]

Mark, I appreciate the rationale behind your rankings as well. Even if we may disagree, explanations are usually very helpful.

Any reason why you are disregarding 2008 in your analysis? Houston only ran the ball 7 more times in 2008 than they did in 2009, the system was basically identical, yet Slaton was the #7 RB in standard scoring (higher in PPR) leagues in 2008.

Isn't it possible that the RB breakdown last year was due to Slaton's injuries/ineffectiveness, and 2010 ends up closer to 2008 than 2009, when Slaton got 70% of the RB carries? If you look at the beginning of the season, Slaton was still getting 65% or so of the RB carries before he was pulled as well. I think, barring injury or horrible play, that Foster will get around 65-70% of the carries, Slaton 15-20%, and around 15% for the rest. That's about how they've handled it the past 2 seasons when they've had a healthy starting RB.

Hey humpback,The big difference between 2008 and 2009 (besides Slaton's injuries/ineffectiveness) was the below, IMO:

Matt Schaub

2007 HOU 11 192 289 2241 7.8 9 9 17 52 3.1 0 144 23

2008 HOU 11 251 380 3043 8.0 15 10 31 68 2.2 2 226 21

2009 HOU 16 396 583 4770 8.2 29 15 47 61 1.3 0 360 4

With as much improvement as Schaub showed last season (in both TDs and durability), I think that 420-440 carries (which they posted in both 08 and 09 (437 08 and 425 09) is a likely floor for the Foster/Slaton and company RBBC (my floor for the team is 430: 200 for Foster, 100 for Slaton, 60 for Schaub and the receivers; 70 for assorted backups/FBs). As I noted earlier, 510 (which is the upside case in my projections) is probably too optimistic, but I could see it happening - I just don't think it is likely. 470-80ish is probably a good bet for the final finish for the entire team, with foster at 225 and Slaton at 125, the rest basically the same.

There is definitely some uncertainty with the turf toe situation, which hasn't been (and won't be) resolved prior to regular season. Koya's best-case for Foster could certainly come true if Slaton is slow to rehab that sore toe (if it is a serious turf toe injury).

It's not that I am hating on Foster, I just don't see a good case for him being a top-12 fantasy RB. I think his upside is RB 2, with a RB 3 finish more likely (I know I'm repeating myself, just want to keep my actual stance on this guy clear).

Little "oof"?

 

[dickey moe]

Might be the biggest sell-high of all times.

 

[Doug B]

And to Avery, i think this tells you how little they trust Slaton.

Nah ... if Foster fumbles one time -- ONE TIME, mind you -- Kubiak will cut him from the roster and start Derrick Ward. Slaton, recall, can never come back and start again because he fumbled last year, and Kubiak hates fumbling more than all other NFL coaches combined.Kubiak will keep cutting RBs and signing street free-agents until he finds the one RB who will never, ever fumble.

 

[redBourne]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

This is what I want to see. I was hoping to get more info on the game rather than everyone splooging and beating their chest about where they drafted the guy. Hard to cut through all the crap looking for solid info but I guess it's to be expected the day of and the day after.Anyone else comment on what the Colts run defense looked like yesterday? Was it that the Colts DLine was just sub par in rush defense, or does the Houston OLine look completely dominant in blocking? Were the safties and db's playing soft coverage to take away Schaub to Johnson/Daniels/JJones?

 

[Judge Smails]

The bottom line - EVERY coach (except Billichek in his arrogant run-up year) would love to have a lead and grind the clock on the ground in the 2nd half. Why risk turnovers when you can run and keep the clock going. On top of that, for as good a QB as Schaub has been fantasy wise, he still tends to throw some horrific picks at the wrong times. His pick with the 13-0 lead yesterday could have totally changed the game. Wasn't even close. Kubiak knows this. I really believe they will become a completely balanced offense and take advantage of what the defense gives them. Weak secondary? Schaub and AJ will still have field days. Stack the line? Expect a lot of play action (which we didn't see yesterday). Weak run D? Meet Mr. Foster. Big lead (as will often be the case) - bruising Arian once again.

No coach likes to throw 50 times. Those games usually end us as L's. The only way Foster doesn't get 20 carries a game from now on is a) if they are playing the Steeler or Raven D lines, or b) they get way behind. I don't expect b to happen much. So, Mr. Foster should be a beast. This offense will look a lot like the Vikings last year. Choose your poison.

 

[RUSF18]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

Are there really people out there who think 230 yards and 3 TDs is likely to happen again in ANY player's career? Think Foster will eclipse 400 carries? People who have touted Foster have built that on his performance during his few opportunities, coupled with the expected continued opportunity as part of a potentially explosive offense. Of course Schaub will throw the ball more but they will also build up leads and then protect their QB and ball possession and give Foster end of game carries. I posted my week 1 prediction a page back and it was around 18 for 90 yards with a few catches for 30 yards or so, and an 80% shot at a TD. His performance yesterday, to me, indicates that he can perform at that level for the remainder of the season (give or take some variance against the toughest/easiest run defenses). That equates to way way above what I paid for him but is still above expectations for anyone who drafted him before the DAL preseason game and about equal (if not still above) to the "inflated value" some put him on after that game (where he was selected round 2/3).

 

[scott72]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

This was his peak game. It won't happen again.

 

[bill bates hits hard]

Schaub threw 17 times,17. That WILL not happen again. This is not the jets. Foster had 30+ carries. I'm certain he will get carries in the high teens to 20 but this was a product of HOU attacking a weak D.

 

[Doug B]

Schaub threw 17 times,17. That WILL not happen again. This is not the jets. Foster had 30+ carries. I'm certain he will get carries in the high teens to 20 but this was a product of HOU attacking a weak D.

Fine -- but consider that even half of Foster's stats would be a fine fantasy performance. Foster doesn't have to go for 200 & 3 TDs for the Foster guys to be considered "right". He just needs to finish as a FFB top-several RB. All he really needs to do is have about 6 or 7 more 100-yd games and rush for maybe 8-10 TDs over the rest of the year. Doesn't have to be Superman ... just Eddie George.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Right now who would you rather have than Arian Foster? I can only think of 4 guys:Chris JohnsonAdrian PetersonRay RiceMaurice Jones-DrewThat's it. If someone offered me one of these 4 for Foster, I would accept it. But I can't think of another player I would trade him for. And I'm not talking dynasty, just this year only.

I'd also take Gore, Jackson and a handful of receivers.

You'd take Gore or Jackson straight up for Foster right now? I wouldn't. And I can't think of any one WR that has the potential value either.

Absolutely. You always get this enamored off of 1 week performances?

Would trade him straight up for Gore in a heartbeat. Gore is an established stud and it's even more clear now that the offense will have to run through him. I think it would be borderline crazy to not trade Foster straight up for Gore (just because of week 1). I would probably trade him straight up for A. Johnson in a PPR league but maybe not a non-PPR league.

 

[Buckna]

Just since no one has mentioned them that I've seen... the Texans O-line was phenomenal today. They gave Foster a lot of holes to choose from... and that really meshed well with Foster as I think his vision and patience may be two of his best attributes. On one of the NFL Network shows they were picking standout players of the day and Deon Sanders chose the Texans O-line as his choice after Mooch chose Foster.

It was hard to tell how much stock to put in the preseason performance the line had against the Cowboys, but they looked every bit as good against the Colts today... though it's probably worth considering the Colts D is undersized and they lost Bob Sanders during the game. Still, I think the next two games against the Skins and then playing the Cowboys again in a real game may give a good measure for just what we can expect this season for Foster in the way of run blocking in front of him.

I really liked what I saw from Foster himself... he seems to show more wiggle each time we get to see him. He had one play that stood out in that regard that he did at least 3 major jukes to turn what would have been a loss in the backfield into a very nice gain. But he also had a lot of great holes to run through. I think any of the RBs on the roster would have had 150 yards today the way the line was blocking.

I've got to admit, I was wrong about him. He definitely showed some excellent vision and wiggle yesterday. Much more than the average run forward and make a cut RB that I thought he was. While I agree that a lot of the success yesterday was due to the O'line, the play calling and the defense; Foster looked excellent and there's no denying that.I think I know the exact play you are talking about too, he turned what would have been a 2 yard loss into about an 8 yard gain by juking a few guys.

 

[Guest]

Might be the biggest sell-high of all times.

Not at all.Sell high means you expect their value to crash. I expect Foster to finish in the Top 10 of RBs. Unless it's really a ridiculous trade, MJD plus Randy Moss, it's unlikely to be a sell high. More like just a cash in.

 

[bill bates hits hard]

Schaub threw 17 times,17. That WILL not happen again. This is not the jets. Foster had 30+ carries. I'm certain he will get carries in the high teens to 20 but this was a product of HOU attacking a weak D.

Fine -- but consider that even half of Foster's stats would be a fine fantasy performance. Foster doesn't have to go for 200 & 3 TDs for the Foster guys to be considered "right". He just needs to finish as a FFB top-several RB. All he really needs to do is have about 6 or 7 more 100-yd games and rush for maybe 8-10 TDs over the rest of the year. Doesn't have to be Superman ... just Eddie George.

I agree and like I said I own him too. I wasas high as anyone on him but people need to be realistic. Look deeper than just his stat line. People are talking him up as AD,MJD,CJ,Rice territory which is short sighted and naive.

 

[Ghost Rider]

This was his peak game. It won't happen again.

Obviously. But given the offense he is in, and how good he looked, so long as he stays healthy, he should be a top 10 fantasy RB this season, without a doubt.

 

[humpback]

The bottom line - EVERY coach (except Billichek in his arrogant run-up year) would love to have a lead and grind the clock on the ground in the 2nd half. Why risk turnovers when you can run and keep the clock going. On top of that, for as good a QB as Schaub has been fantasy wise, he still tends to throw some horrific picks at the wrong times. His pick with the 13-0 lead yesterday could have totally changed the game. Wasn't even close. Kubiak knows this. I really believe they will become a completely balanced offense and take advantage of what the defense gives them. Weak secondary? Schaub and AJ will still have field days. Stack the line? Expect a lot of play action (which we didn't see yesterday). Weak run D? Meet Mr. Foster. Big lead (as will often be the case) - bruising Arian once again.No coach likes to throw 50 times. Those games usually end us as L's. The only way Foster doesn't get 20 carries a game from now on is a) if they are playing the Steeler or Raven D lines, or b) they get way behind. I don't expect b to happen much. So, Mr. Foster should be a beast. This offense will look a lot like the Vikings last year. Choose your poison.

Stop it, don't you know that Kubiak is "the suck"? Did anyone else hear the comparisons to the way Kubiak used Terrell Davis?

 

[timschochet]

I consider Foster to be a stud, as in "Never bench your studs".

 

[timschochet]

Would trade him straight up for Gore in a heartbeat. Gore is an established stud and it's even more clear now that the offense will have to run through him. I think it would be borderline crazy to not trade Foster straight up for Gore (just because of week 1). I would probably trade him straight up for A. Johnson in a PPR league but maybe not a non-PPR league.

The word "established" means very little in fantasy football. Frank Gore is playing on a team with a big problem at QB and with an offense that is going to struggle. He is also several years older than Foster and does not have the greatest history with injuries. Foster plays on a team with a prolific offense with a lot more weapons than San Francisco. Foster's going to get just as many touches (if not more) than Frank Gore, and I expect will be more successful with them. Whatever Gore has "established" in previous seasons is irrelevant. So no, I would not make this trade.

 

[ceo3west]

Anyone who would sell Foster in a redraft is a guppy. This is the kind of player that wins you a title.

 

[GregR_2]

Just since no one has mentioned them that I've seen... the Texans O-line was phenomenal today. They gave Foster a lot of holes to choose from... and that really meshed well with Foster as I think his vision and patience may be two of his best attributes. On one of the NFL Network shows they were picking standout players of the day and Deon Sanders chose the Texans O-line as his choice after Mooch chose Foster.

It was hard to tell how much stock to put in the preseason performance the line had against the Cowboys, but they looked every bit as good against the Colts today... though it's probably worth considering the Colts D is undersized and they lost Bob Sanders during the game. Still, I think the next two games against the Skins and then playing the Cowboys again in a real game may give a good measure for just what we can expect this season for Foster in the way of run blocking in front of him.

I really liked what I saw from Foster himself... he seems to show more wiggle each time we get to see him. He had one play that stood out in that regard that he did at least 3 major jukes to turn what would have been a loss in the backfield into a very nice gain. But he also had a lot of great holes to run through. I think any of the RBs on the roster would have had 150 yards today the way the line was blocking.

I've got to admit, I was wrong about him. He definitely showed some excellent vision and wiggle yesterday. Much more than the average run forward and make a cut RB that I thought he was. While I agree that a lot of the success yesterday was due to the O'line, the play calling and the defense; Foster looked excellent and there's no denying that.I think I know the exact play you are talking about too, he turned what would have been a 2 yard loss into about an 8 yard gain by juking a few guys.

I think it's something we really haven't seen from him in the past, or at least that I haven't. I remember Foster stood out to me at the first training camp I saw him at, to the point I commented on him positively in my camp write up and (and went out and drafted him in dynasty)... but I don't recall seeing him making the kind of cuts he was showing now that he's capable of. I remember how much he looked to me at the time like Eddie George, running upright and using his size to deliver hits more than making moves. He looks much more fluid now, and every game I've noticed how great his vision has been while I didn't really have that stand out to me at all in the previous times I've seen him before this preseason.

 

[Stewy]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

This is what I want to see. I was hoping to get more info on the game rather than everyone splooging and beating their chest about where they drafted the guy. Hard to cut through all the crap looking for solid info but I guess it's to be expected the day of and the day after.Anyone else comment on what the Colts run defense looked like yesterday? Was it that the Colts DLine was just sub par in rush defense, or does the Houston OLine look completely dominant in blocking? Were the safties and db's playing soft coverage to take away Schaub to Johnson/Daniels/JJones?

The Colts' D played a lot of double coverage on AJ, which prevented them from stacking the box against Foster. They were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. After the long, 8 minute, 10 run, TD drive to open the third quarter the Indy defense essentially quit. At that point Foster was breaking huge 20, 30 yard runs.I think one of the most important lessons to be taken away from this by the FF community if the philosophy. This is the style of play that Kubiak has wanted and tried to play since he arrived here. It is ideal for him to build an early lead in the first half (preferably through the pass, I think), and then grind it out on the ground in the second half. In '08 he had the running game to do it, but the defense often didn't oblige. In '09 he had the defense but not the running game. As it stands now, he has both.

 

[Lobary]

Schaub threw 17 times,17. That WILL not happen again. This is not the jets. Foster had 30+ carries. I'm certain he will get carries in the high teens to 20 but this was a product of HOU attacking a weak D.

Fine -- but consider that even half of Foster's stats would be a fine fantasy performance. Foster doesn't have to go for 200 & 3 TDs for the Foster guys to be considered "right". He just needs to finish as a FFB top-several RB. All he really needs to do is have about 6 or 7 more 100-yd games and rush for maybe 8-10 TDs over the rest of the year. Doesn't have to be Superman ... just Eddie George.

I agree and like I said I own him too. I wasas high as anyone on him but people need to be realistic. Look deeper than just his stat line. People are talking him up as AD,MJD,CJ,Rice territory which is short sighted and naive.

I think it's realistic to put him in the top-twelve RBs, which is why I had him pegged as an RB1 before both my drafts and decided that I would go QB-WR-WR because I knew I'd be able to get him with my fourth or fifth picks. I never understood why FBGs were so slow to pick up on him and had other guys like McCoy, Wells, and Mathews ranked well ahead of him. And speaking of looking deeper, sharks need to consider the type of running game the Texans are using this year. They're moving away from the zone blocking, backside cuts that Alex Gibbs emphasized last year and allowing their backs to string it outside first and then look for cutback lanes if they're there. Case in point: on that key drive that culminated in a Foster TD in the third quarter, the Texans elected to go for it on fourth and 1. The Colts stuffed the play on the inside, but Foster kept stringing it along outside (something you didn't see much of last year) and then pounded his way past the first down marker near the sideline to keep the drive alive.

Arian Foster is going to be a fantasy force this season.

 

[J-Dawg]

I've got Foster in two dynasty leagues, in one of them he was a game day addition to my lineup after it was announced that Beanie would be sitting. Foster proceeds to get me 52 points in a win. In another league is where I'm left scratching my head what to do with him or with one of my other RBs. He was benched as I ended up playing AP and DeAngelo...he out-pointed both of them combined on my bench, ugh. I also have Shonn Greene in that league and need WR help. I'm unsure of who to deal, 4 RB1 caliber runners is too much of a good thing when there's a hole elsewhere in my lineup. I was thinking this week of trying to sell high on Foster if he had a good game to see what I could fetch, but now I'm having second thoughts and wondering if I should wait for DeAngelo to have a good week and try to shop him instead and keep Foster, Greene and Peterson.

 

[Doug B]

People are talking him up as AD,MJD,CJ,Rice territory which is short sighted and naive.

... IMHO, Foster is better than MJD, Rice, and Gore right now. Not because of the big performance against the Colts, either.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

People are talking him up as AD,MJD,CJ,Rice territory which is short sighted and naive.

... IMHO, Foster is better than MJD, Rice, and Gore right now. Not because of the big performance against the Colts, either.

where's your post before the season stating this?

 

[jdoggydogg]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

Clearly, this will be Foster's best game. So I agree that people will overreact to these stats. But you have to think that Kubiak liked what he saw yesterday as far as the execution of that game plan. Houston has been awful vs. Indy in the past - weren't they 1-15 before this? So I don't see Houston abandoning an offense that just beat their biggest rival.I think this game will open up the play action, and we'll see a big game from Schaub this or next week. But that'll make it even easier for Foster to find running lanes.

 

[NoCheese]

If he's the 16 game starter, he will comfortably finish in the Top 10. The reasons he didn't get drafted as a Top 10-15 RB are still intact, so as long as he stays healthy and holds on to the ball, he'll be a RB1.

 

[ponchsox]

Going into a redraft full of risk-takers tomorrow ... pretty confident Foster will go late 2nd round or early 3rd (12 drafters). There are some major services that already has Foster ranked around RB 10-12 ... think he'll climb a few notches after the tonight's action.Myself .... he looks like a Top-5 RB to me.

Top 5 ? What in the ?So your saying Foster is better then at least 1 of these RB's ?C-JohnsonPetersonDrewRay RiceGore

I can see Foster cracking the top five and replacing Gore if the Niners continue to struggle. I don't see him passing the other guys. If you drafted today, would you take Foster after the first 6 picks in the first round?

 

[VaTerp]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

I don't know about this. Through pre-season and last nite the Skins run D has not been nearly as good as it's been in recent years. They are still adjusting to the 3-4 and the D-line gets very little push right now. Dallas ran the ball almost at will against the Skins defensive right and Im still not sure why they didnt run the ball more.Obviously Im a Skins fan and happen to be playing against Foster next week so I would love to see him shut down. But I think the Texans will be able to run the football next Sunday.

 

[Glaven]

Despite his awesome performance, I don't think he's all that talented. He looks like a guy who does everything well, but nothing great. In dynasty leagues, I'd be trying to trade him for an elitely talented RB. Although because of how good his current situation is, if my team was challenging for the championship this season I may hold off on trading him till the end of the year.

 

[Lobary]

The reasons he didn't get drafted as a Top 10-15 RB are still intact, so as long as he stays healthy and holds on to the ball, he'll be a RB1.

As I said before, those reasons are not very reasonable considering his role as the starting running back in the Texans offense. The health question is moot as that unknown variable applies to every player in the league and every fantasy owner. The fumble issue is totally overblown by most here and not based on the factual record. If you'd paid attention to the tea leaves during OTAs and training camp, it was apparent that Foster is Kubiak's guy and he will stick with him accordingly, just as he stuck with Slaton last year.

 

[elmanx]

I'm thinking about Foster's trade value at this point and the question that's running through my mind is what RBs would you trade straight up to get A. Foster today.

Here's where I sit right now. Assume a PPR league

C. Johnson -- Definite No

A. Peterson -- Definite No

R. Rice -- Haven't seen him play yet, but how good of a day is he going to have against the Jets. Nevertheless, Probably not in a PPR league

M. Jones-Drew -- Knee looked OK and he ran well, so Probably not

F. Gore -- really don't know, almost a tossup

M. Turner -- really don't know, almost a tossup

I would trade any other RB straight up for A. Foster right now. Anyone think differently?

I think Gore and Turner are tough calls, but if actually faced with the decision of trading one of those guys for Foster, I'd probably stay with Gore or Turner. I'm most interested in everyone's thoughts on Foster vs. Gore and Foster vs. Turner.

 

[ponchsox]

I would take Gore or Turner for him (and the others). This is probably the only week you can get either one for Foster.

 

[bulger2holt]

CJ is the only RB I would trade for Foster today.

 

[Marvelous]

he had 30+ carries. schaub had 17 attempts for 107 and AJ had 33 yards on 3 REC. now i own Foster and happy to own him but this wont happen again. texans exploited the colts run D and ran the ball ALL day. expect it to reverse next week at WASH with a good run D. this is a classic week one overreaction.

Redskins run defense has not looked good. Dallas averaged 4.7 yards per carry. It's amazing they did not try to run the ball more.

 

[elmanx]

CJ is the only RB I would trade for Foster today.

Wow! And I thought I had him high. However, I can understand this position, but I think you are in the minority. I wonder how many ADP for Foster trades will actually take place in the FF universe.

 

[Guest]

I'm thinking about Foster's trade value at this point and the question that's running through my mind is what RBs would you trade straight up to get A. Foster today. Here's where I sit right now. Assume a PPR leagueC. Johnson -- Definite NoA. Peterson -- Definite NoR. Rice -- Haven't seen him play yet, but how good of a day is he going to have against the Jets. Nevertheless, Probably not in a PPR leagueM. Jones-Drew -- Knee looked OK and he ran well, so Probably notF. Gore -- really don't know, almost a tossupM. Turner -- really don't know, almost a tossupI would trade any other RB straight up for A. Foster right now. Anyone think differently? I think Gore and Turner are tough calls, but if actually faced with the decision of trading one of those guys for Foster, I'd probably stay with Gore or Turner. I'm most interested in everyone's thoughts on Foster vs. Gore and Foster vs. Turner.

This sounds right.I would put Foster under Gore and Turner and interchangeable with the other RBs on the top of that next tier.

 

[Doug B]

People are talking him up as AD,MJD,CJ,Rice territory which is short sighted and naive.

... IMHO, Foster is better than MJD, Rice, and Gore right now. Not because of the big performance against the Colts, either.

where's your post before the season stating this?

Post #148 in this thread, from Aug 28. I didn't name-check MJD, Rice, or Gore, though.

 

[bulger2holt]

CJ is the only RB I would trade for Foster today.

Wow! And I thought I had him high. However, I can understand this position, but I think you are in the minority. I wonder how many ADP for Foster trades will actually take place in the FF universe.

It's because of his situation is why I like him more than everyone else but CJ. I saw him run over the Cowboys too. I like Ray Rice a lot too, but I like Foster's situation better. McGahee may vulture the GL Td's. Foster is the #1 RB on a top offense with a good o-line, who also has a good passing game. Teams can't stack the box because of AJ, Walters and Jones. Granted, Foster won't blow up every week, but I think 100 yards and a TD is his floor each week. I would expect 3-5 rec weekly too. Yesterday, they ran the ball so well they didn't need to throw him screens. 100% chance he ends up in the top 5 FF Rb's.

 

[mvereb]

So what happens next week when Foster puts the ball on the deck a few times? Are you still taking him over Gore and Turner?

I love Foster's situation as much as anyone, but why would you turn down proven studs on run-first teams for a guy who had an amazing week 1?

Schaub attempted over 34 passes per game last year. The Colts couldn't stop the run game. The Texans' Week 2 opponent, the Redskins, held Marion Barber and Felix Jones to 77 yards. Meanwhile, Miles Austin went off for 146 yards and a score. Main point, the Redskins showed that they are vulnerable through the air. The Redskins have a better run defense than the Colts do. Hell, the Colts may be a bottom five rush defense this year. Foster did look good, don't get me wrong, but this was how the Texans chose to attack the Colts.

Americans are so quick to overreact. Yes, the performance was impressive, but that doesn't mean you should throw all of your pre-season research and prep down the tubes for the hot player.

 

[elmanx]

Americans are so quick to overreact. Yes, the performance was impressive, but that doesn't mean you should throw all of your pre-season research and prep down the tubes for the hot player.

OK, so where do you rank him among RBs right now? Tell me the best RBs that you would trade for straight up to get him.

 

[mvereb]

Americans are so quick to overreact. Yes, the performance was impressive, but that doesn't mean you should throw all of your pre-season research and prep down the tubes for the hot player.

OK, so where do you rank him among RBs right now? Tell me the best RBs that you would trade for straight up to get him.

Not above Turner and Gore.

 

[Andrew Garda]

I have to spend some time looking at the game (only saw bits and pieces yesterday) over the next few days to get a good look at him, but what little I saw seemed solid (stat line aside - that of course was fantastic).

I do believe it far more likely that Foster gets less than 33 carries and Schaub throws for more than 17 attempts than the reverse. Also the Colts run defense is still no so very good. So I think at least some of the stats were a product of situation of that particular game.

But even if he gets 8-10 less carries and Schaub throws 8-10 more times (at least) Foster is a guy you have to think about having in your lineup every week - we've seen his upside so how could you not?

I'm not sure off one game I'd pop him above some backs but you have to start thinking about what he is capable of, especially if he has another good game next week against Washington.

I believe Gore will bounce back as will Turner but Foster does seem to have an early leg up on most of the backs who went rounds 2,3 & 4 in front of him. I'm cautiously optimistic he will continue to perform but also think we should try to temper the enthusiasm off one game.

Interesting thought for those pointing that he can't possibly roll those numbers out each week (and he won't) - as much as we preach not to overreact to one game, does it cut both ways? Are you looking at his numbers and being so focused on the fact that he is unlikely to repeat them that you're missing the larger issue - that while he won't score that high again, and it IS just one game, that he is capable of playing at a high level?

Not that he's the next Barry Sanders or Emmit Smith, but that he can have big games?

He just needs to do them consistently now.

Looking forward to looking over the film in a few days and like many, am glad I got him in several leagues, frustrated I didn't get him in all of them.

 

[elmanx]

Not above Turner and Gore.

Well if you read my first post in this thread, neither do I. Who else is he below? Right now we agree on CJ, ADP, Rice, MJD, Gore, Turner.

 

[mvereb]

Not above Turner and Gore.

Well if you read my first post in this thread, neither do I. Who else is he below? Right now we agree on CJ, ADP, Rice, MJD, Gore, Turner.

I'd deal him for DeAngelo straight up. That's more probably it among RBs. Too many unproven backs whose situation isn't as good.