Arian Foster (1 Viewer)

[Bert]

Remember the coach is Ratahan Jr. He has a boner right now at the thought of being able to rotate all three of these backs this season.

 

[J-Dawg]

Per Rotoworld:

Coach Gary Kubiak described rookie Ben Tate's training camp performance thus far as "up and down.""He’s every bit the talent that we drafted," Kubiak said. "He’s learning to be a pro. He has to catch up because he missed a lot time because he missed OTAs. He needs to know to get his motor going when he leaves out of the locker room and not 30 minutes into practice ... He could help this team if he continues to grow up." We still like Tate in Dynasty leagues, but it would be an upset if he works his way into a major role by the season opener. Aug. 10 - 1:03 pm etSource: houstontexans.com

Foster is still very much a sneaky buy-low this year who could be this year's Fred Jackson and quietly post 1000 yards with a handful of TDs.

 

[njherdfan]

Per Rotoworld:

Coach Gary Kubiak described rookie Ben Tate's training camp performance thus far as "up and down."

"He’s every bit the talent that we drafted," Kubiak said. "He’s learning to be a pro. He has to catch up because he missed a lot time because he missed OTAs. He needs to know to get his motor going when he leaves out of the locker room and not 30 minutes into practice ... He could help this team if he continues to grow up." We still like Tate in Dynasty leagues, but it would be an upset if he works his way into a major role by the season opener. Aug. 10 - 1:03 pm et

Source: houstontexans.com

Foster is still very much a sneaky buy-low this year who could be this year's Fred Jackson and quietly post 1000 yards with a handful of TDs.

Not sure if I agree with the bolded part. IF Foster wins the job, then I would think he would get more than a few TDs, simply because of how good Houston's offense is.

 

[[icon]]

Hi everyone, sorry to be the board police but there has been a lot of Houston RB talk all off season. Try the search function and you see a lot of posting. I'm not trying to rain on this thread, it's fine but we are going to have a lot of new folks over the next 2 weeks and even some we have not seen in 6-7 months. I like Foster simply because of the 3, he can be had for nothing right now. I would likely draft Slton and Foster as the combo, not too high on Ben Tate and reports have not been glowing IMO. Cheers all,MOP

MOP stepping up his annual campaign to get on staff

 

[Power Monster]

Hi everyone, sorry to be the board police but there has been a lot of Houston RB talk all off season. Try the search function and you see a lot of posting. I'm not trying to rain on this thread, it's fine but we are going to have a lot of new folks over the next 2 weeks and even some we have not seen in 6-7 months. I like Foster simply because of the 3, he can be had for nothing right now. I would likely draft Slton and Foster as the combo, not too high on Ben Tate and reports have not been glowing IMO. Cheers all,MOP

MOP stepping up his annual campaign to get on staff

I think he should be on staff

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Per Rotoworld:

Coach Gary Kubiak described rookie Ben Tate's training camp performance thus far as "up and down."

"He’s every bit the talent that we drafted," Kubiak said. "He’s learning to be a pro. He has to catch up because he missed a lot time because he missed OTAs. He needs to know to get his motor going when he leaves out of the locker room and not 30 minutes into practice ... He could help this team if he continues to grow up." We still like Tate in Dynasty leagues, but it would be an upset if he works his way into a major role by the season opener. Aug. 10 - 1:03 pm et

Source: houstontexans.com

Foster is still very much a sneaky buy-low this year who could be this year's Fred Jackson and quietly post 1000 yards with a handful of TDs.

Not sure if I agree with the bolded part. IF Foster wins the job, then I would think he would get more than a few TDs, simply because of how good Houston's offense is.

Winning and keeping the job are two different things and Kubiak has shown a very fickle hand in the past with that position. I am a Foster owner in one league and I'm pulling for him, but I'm very cautious as to his outlook this season.

 

[thatguy]

If Foster does keep the job and run with it, stays in Kubiak's good graces (limit the fumbles, excel in pass pro, and of course perform), what are realistic expectations? I'm thinking something like 260-1100-9 and 35-250-2 are reasonable expectations - perhaps a bit optimistic, but I am a big believer in his talent, and his situation, coache's fickle nature aside, is very conducive to very solid numbers.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Probably because there is three viable options in that backfield and his fumbling often takes him out of favor.

 

[humpback]

If Foster does keep the job and run with it, stays in Kubiak's good graces (limit the fumbles, excel in pass pro, and of course perform), what are realistic expectations? I'm thinking something like 260-1100-9 and 35-250-2 are reasonable expectations - perhaps a bit optimistic, but I am a big believer in his talent, and his situation, coache's fickle nature aside, is very conducive to very solid numbers.

If he gets those touches, I think those numbers are plenty realistic, I just doubt that any of the 3 RBs get close to 300 touches (barring injury).

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Probably because there is three viable options in that backfield and his fumbling often takes him out of favor.

I keep seeing this, and I'm .Out of Steve Slaton, Ryan Moats, and Arian Foster last year, Foster had the fewest issues with fumbling.

 

[BRONG]

Hi everyone, sorry to be the board police but there has been a lot of Houston RB talk all off season. Try the search function and you see a lot of posting. I'm not trying to rain on this thread, it's fine but we are going to have a lot of new folks over the next 2 weeks and even some we have not seen in 6-7 months. I like Foster simply because of the 3, he can be had for nothing right now. I would likely draft Slton and Foster as the combo, not too high on Ben Tate and reports have not been glowing IMO. Cheers all,MOP

MOP stepping up his annual campaign to get on staff

 

[MongoL3]

Hi everyone, sorry to be the board police but there has been a lot of Houston RB talk all off season. Try the search function and you see a lot of posting. I'm not trying to rain on this thread, it's fine but we are going to have a lot of new folks over the next 2 weeks and even some we have not seen in 6-7 months. I like Foster simply because of the 3, he can be had for nothing right now. I would likely draft Slton and Foster as the combo, not too high on Ben Tate and reports have not been glowing IMO. Cheers all,MOP

MOP stepping up his annual campaign to get on staff

I dont get the MOP hate. The dude knows his stuff and I enjoy his posts, especially once the season starts.

 

[Franknbeans]

I don't want any part of the revolving backfield that Kubiak covets. Let that be someone else's headache.

 

[cr8f]

Remember the coach is Ratahan Jr. He has a boner right now at the thought of being able to rotate all three of these backs this season.

I'm not sure that's true. They probably want to run just enough so Andre isn't triple covered every play.

 

[Harrassment Panda]

I haven't followed his NFL career but at Tennessee he was known as a fumbler. Big fast dude though. I'm going to try and get him.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

MJD (on his Sirius fantasy football show) said that Foster is the sleeper RB of the year.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Hi everyone, sorry to be the board police but there has been a lot of Houston RB talk all off season. Try the search function and you see a lot of posting. I'm not trying to rain on this thread, it's fine but we are going to have a lot of new folks over the next 2 weeks and even some we have not seen in 6-7 months. I like Foster simply because of the 3, he can be had for nothing right now. I would likely draft Slton and Foster as the combo, not too high on Ben Tate and reports have not been glowing IMO. Cheers all,MOP

MOP stepping up his annual campaign to get on staff

I dont get the MOP hate. The dude knows his stuff and I enjoy his posts, especially once the season starts.

It's just their way of expressing how much they like me. I wouldn't call it MOP hate. I appreciate the kind words though.

 

[cr8f]

Hi everyone, sorry to be the board police but there has been a lot of Houston RB talk all off season. Try the search function and you see a lot of posting. I'm not trying to rain on this thread, it's fine but we are going to have a lot of new folks over the next 2 weeks and even some we have not seen in 6-7 months. I like Foster simply because of the 3, he can be had for nothing right now. I would likely draft Slton and Foster as the combo, not too high on Ben Tate and reports have not been glowing IMO. Cheers all,MOP

MOP stepping up his annual campaign to get on staff

I dont get the MOP hate. The dude knows his stuff and I enjoy his posts, especially once the season starts.

He holds his own and the bashers make this interesting.In 2 recent drafts Foster has moved up considerably. This is a start 1 RB IDP with DT and CB.14.09 217. Foster, Arian HOU RB Fri Jul 30 2:43:24 p.m. CT 201014.13 McFadden, Darren OAK RB Fri Jul 30 3:20:42 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List16.01 Hamilton, Lynell NOS RB Sun Aug 1 3:30:16 p.m. CT 201016.05 Tomlinson, LaDainian NYJ RB Sun Aug 1 5:45:38 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made via text from BC16.06 Choice, Tashard DAL RB Mon Aug 2 12:58:42 p.m. CT 201016.16 Washington, Leon SEA RB Mon Aug 2 2:54:30 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List18.02 Slaton, Steve HOU RB Tue Aug 3 6:16:08 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List18.07 McGahee, Willis BAL RB Tue Aug 3 9:47:10 p.m. CT 201018.13 Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB Wed Aug 4 8:46:39 a.m. CT 201019.09 Johnson, Larry WAS RB Thu Aug 5 12:13:32 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List19.11 Dwyer, Jonathan PIT RB ® Thu Aug 5 12:15:17 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List20.01 Smith, Kevin DET RB Thu Aug 5 9:30:06 p.m. CT 2010 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Probably because there is three viable options in that backfield and his fumbling often takes him out of favor.

I keep seeing this, and I'm .Out of Steve Slaton, Ryan Moats, and Arian Foster last year, Foster had the fewest issues with fumbling.

Look at his career fumbling % per carry. His fumbling has taken him out of his teams favor on more than one occasion. When you don't bring a whole lot to the table and put the ball on the grass you don't play much deep into the season. Espescially when you have 2 other guys as good or better.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Probably because there is three viable options in that backfield and his fumbling often takes him out of favor.

I keep seeing this, and I'm .Out of Steve Slaton, Ryan Moats, and Arian Foster last year, Foster had the fewest issues with fumbling.

Look at his career fumbling % per carry. His fumbling has taken him out of his teams favor on more than one occasion. When you don't bring a whole lot to the table and put the ball on the grass you don't play much deep into the season. Espescially when you have 2 other guys as good or better.

He has 62 touches in his career and one fumble. And for someone who doesn't bring much to the table, that 4.8 yards per carry and 11.6 yards per reception sure look nice next to his size and staunch pass blocking.

 

[cr8f]

#Texans coach Gary Kubiak said that RBs Arian Foster and Steve Slaton will both work with the 1s at Arizona

Nick Scurfield-Texans staff writer on Twitter

Interesting to see how Slaton is used.

 

[Koya]

#Texans coach Gary Kubiak said that RBs Arian Foster and Steve Slaton will both work with the 1s at ArizonaNick Scurfield-Texans staff writer on TwitterInteresting to see how Slaton is used.

Man, this thread has been killing me the last couple of days. I am in a slow draft (real money though) and believe there is a lot of upside in this backfield because of the high powered offense. Im not expecting a top 10 RB out of it, but I wouldnt say that's impossible if one guy gets the job through his play/ability and/or injury.I first went with Slaton, knowing that last year's disaster was preceeded by a damn good season. The guy has the ability and it only takes one or two receptions a game for him to take one long and even to the house. When you are talking a 9-11th round pick, thats some nice upside.I took foster in the next round, though was nervous someone might snag him - I have heard good things and seen a little of him but he still must prove himself over a long run.In likelihood there will be some split here, but each could be serviceable as a bye week/injury replacement guy with the knowledge that IF things pan out one way or another, either of these two could really benefit.Of course, Tate is hanging in the background so it's forseeable he gets some playing time down the road, but as mentioned, there is upside somewhere here in this backfield.

 

[Shutout]

I don't want any part of the revolving backfield that Kubiak covets. Let that be someone else's headache.

I think you have to keep that line of thought in perspective. Kubiak has that reputation because it IS what he has done and he had that rep when he first became coach because he came from Denver and that is what Shanahan had done recently. However, Shanahan clearly showed that when he stumbled across gold, ala Terell Davis, he rode that horse till it broke. Now comes Kubiak who, if you have been following the Texans the past few years, you will notice has openly said repeatedly that they WANT that bigger guy that can run inside within the parameters of this system. They really wanted it to be Chris Brown. he was ideal on paper and had run the same offense in college but his back knocked him out at the tail end of camp a few seasons ago and he never got it back. He was also injury prone too. Ahman Green could have been the guy but was simply out of gas. Various guys have been tried but either couldn't stay healthy or fumbled/did things coach didn't like. But then came Foster. This kid has every thing on paper that Kubiak has been looking for and he showed it last year. He did have a fumble in that doughnut game of his late three starts last year and was yanked but in the two games he simply started and played, he was impressive against the Patriots and Dolphins (two teams that were trying to get in/improve their playoff position). His YPC are better than most backs in the league. Against those two defenses, that's impressive but ideally I would like to see that on an even field. I get leeery of rested players that come in and play having the benefit of not going through the grind through the majority of the season (like Charles and Harrison). But Foster, unlike the other two, played against two good defenses with something to play for. I'm impressed by this kid. I think, health permitting, he is going to be a rock solid #2 RB this year. I see him getting 9-12TDs, chances to put up at least 1000 yards, and I think Slaton's role will be a lot like Brian Westbrook before Westy was the only RB in Philly. I think Slaton will productive in his own ways, just not excessive and in a way that will actually help both backs be productive this year.

 

[Concept Coop]

#Texans coach Gary Kubiak said that RBs Arian Foster and Steve Slaton will both work with the 1s at ArizonaNick Scurfield-Texans staff writer on TwitterInteresting to see how Slaton is used.

Man, this thread has been killing me the last couple of days. I am in a slow draft (real money though) and believe there is a lot of upside in this backfield because of the high powered offense. Im not expecting a top 10 RB out of it, but I wouldnt say that's impossible if one guy gets the job through his play/ability and/or injury.I first went with Slaton, knowing that last year's disaster was preceeded by a damn good season. The guy has the ability and it only takes one or two receptions a game for him to take one long and even to the house. When you are talking a 9-11th round pick, thats some nice upside.I took foster in the next round, though was nervous someone might snag him - I have heard good things and seen a little of him but he still must prove himself over a long run.In likelihood there will be some split here, but each could be serviceable as a bye week/injury replacement guy with the knowledge that IF things pan out one way or another, either of these two could really benefit.Of course, Tate is hanging in the background so it's forseeable he gets some playing time down the road, but as mentioned, there is upside somewhere here in this backfield.

Can I ask why you went Slaton first? If I look at the situation if Houston, it is pretty clear that Slaton is going to be a 3rd down back. As explosive as he was two seasons ago, he is now a serious injury risk and has two traditional early down backs to compete with. It doesn't make much sense for the Texans to play him outside of a change of pace/3rd down role. Granted, he is one of those guys that is a "threat to score cliche", but I would take a steady 12-16 carries at a 4.5 clip and a goaline chance over a coulpe receptions that could break. I don't think his reward factor is there. I think he is a career 3rd down back. I think the aspect that is often overlooked is the fact that Foster is only 23. I am a big SEC fan and have watched plenty of Foster and Tate play in college. I don't know how in the world Tate was drafted in the 2nd round and am equally baffled that Foster went undrafted. I think their talent is even and honestly liked Foster more in college, when he played. Even if Houston feels obligated to give Tate a shot sometime during the season and he cashes in, Foster is not an old guy. At worst, he is a RBBC candidate for the next 6 years. At best, he wins the job and is one of Houstons "triplets" for the next 4-5 years, and a top 12 fantasy back. Because of his age, I think his reward FAR overshadows his reward. I have Foster in one league (non-PPR) and wouldn't think about trading him for Stalton, even though Slaton was drafted much earlier.

 

[Koya]

#Texans coach Gary Kubiak said that RBs Arian Foster and Steve Slaton will both work with the 1s at ArizonaNick Scurfield-Texans staff writer on TwitterInteresting to see how Slaton is used.

Man, this thread has been killing me the last couple of days. I am in a slow draft (real money though) and believe there is a lot of upside in this backfield because of the high powered offense. Im not expecting a top 10 RB out of it, but I wouldnt say that's impossible if one guy gets the job through his play/ability and/or injury.I first went with Slaton, knowing that last year's disaster was preceeded by a damn good season. The guy has the ability and it only takes one or two receptions a game for him to take one long and even to the house. When you are talking a 9-11th round pick, thats some nice upside.I took foster in the next round, though was nervous someone might snag him - I have heard good things and seen a little of him but he still must prove himself over a long run.In likelihood there will be some split here, but each could be serviceable as a bye week/injury replacement guy with the knowledge that IF things pan out one way or another, either of these two could really benefit.Of course, Tate is hanging in the background so it's forseeable he gets some playing time down the road, but as mentioned, there is upside somewhere here in this backfield.

Can I ask why you went Slaton first? If I look at the situation if Houston, it is pretty clear that Slaton is going to be a 3rd down back. As explosive as he was two seasons ago, he is now a serious injury risk and has two traditional early down backs to compete with. It doesn't make much sense for the Texans to play him outside of a change of pace/3rd down role. Granted, he is one of those guys that is a "threat to score cliche", but I would take a steady 12-16 carries at a 4.5 clip and a goaline change over a coulpe receptions that could break. I don't think his reward factor is there. I think he is a career 3rd down back. I think the aspect that is often overlooked is the fact that Foster is only 23. I am a big SEC fan and have watched plenty of Foster and Tate play in college. I don't know how in the world Tate was drafted in the 2nd round and am equally baffled that Foster went undrafted. I think their talent is even and honestly liked Foster more in college, when he played. Even if Houston feels obligated to give Tate a shot sometime during the season and he cashes in, Foster is not an old guy. At worst, he is a RBBC candidate for the next 6 years. At best, he wins the job and is one of Houstons "triplets" for the next 4-5 years, and a top 12 fantasy back. Because of his age, I think his reward FAR overshadows his reward. I have Foster in one league (non-PPR) and wouldn't think about trading him for Stalton, even though Slaton was drafted much earlier.

Taking Slaton first might not have been the best move, sometimes you get lucky. My rationale at the time was (1) I know Slaton can do great things on the field. Last year could be an abberation and I know he will get 3rd down duties which may lead to more touches overall. (2) I felt Foster had a better chance to slip to the next round and (3) I feel that Tate would be more likely to cut into Foster's touches as opposed to Slaton. So Slaton gave me someone to start during bye weeks with some upside (and I just have a feeling, could be more than some upside) as my third RB with the best chance to grab both, and have a solid tandem as my 3rd RB, each with upside depending upon how things happen.Which means, Tate should be starting by week 3.