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Arrow - the series (1 Viewer)

This was the best season since season 2 imo. Prometheus was a great villain and I loved the over the top, smarmy evil the actor managed to work up. I had only seen that actor do comedy so that was shocking for me.

I'm betting they all got into the A.R.G.U.S. bunker/prison and lived (minus whoever they're killing off).

The actress who plays Laurel got bumped back up to Series Regular for next year so get prepared for a redemption arc for Black Siren. That's terrible. 

Wonder who Vigilante will be revealed as next season? They said they couldn't get the actor they wanted so they put it off. Interesting. 

Curious to see what they do in place of Oliver's flashbacks. It was really cool seeing them come full circle like that even though some of the details to get it to match up with the original pilot were lame. 

Wish they'd ditch characters like Mr. Terrific (he doesn't fit the mood of the show--one Felicity is enough--and his comedic timing is awful unlike Cisco on Flash). But overall this show just went through a total revival imo, depending on where they go next. I have a feeling they're about to kill all momentum with this kid storyline. 

 
Seems I must think out of the mainstream.  Arrow looks to be generally well regarded by critics (from Wikipedia):

Critical response

Season one received favorable reviews, with a Metacritic score of 73 out of 100, based on reviews from 25 critics, making it the highest rated CW show in five years.[72][73] Review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes calculated an approval rating of 86%, based on 35 reviews, for the first season. The site's consensus reads: "The CW nails the target with Arrow, a comic book-inspired series that benefits from cinematic action sequences, strong plotting, and intriguing characters."[74]

Mary McNamara of the Los Angeles Times called the series an interesting setup with a quality look, describing Amell as "a poster boy (no doubt literally) for the Katniss Everdeen set."[75] Brian Lowry at Variety described the series as a "handsome but stiff surrogate for Batman that could benefit from sharper execution."[76] In reviewing the final episode of season one, Alasdair Wilkins of The A.V. Club gave the season as a whole a rating of B+, noting that the show "hasn't quite figured everything out yet, but it's had some standout episodes."[77]

Jeff Jensen of Entertainment Weekly gave the first half of season two a rating of B+, saying, "Arrow possesses an intelligence that shines through its TV-budget production values, which aren't too shabby. The writing is adult and witty, the action is exciting, and Amell holds the center with well-cultivated ease."[78] The A.V. Club's Carrie Raisler gave the first half of season two a rating of A-. She said, "Arrow [has] officially established itself as one of the most satisfying shows on television. The most satisfying thing of all is that it did so by respecting its characters... [Arrow respects] the character's comic-book roots in its overarching plotlines, all while using the network-appropriate soap-opera stories to do the heavy character lifting."[79] Season two received critical acclaim from critics and fans alike, for the action sequences, storytelling, performances of the cast, drama, and the portrayal of Slade Wilson.[80]

Despite a strong critical start for the season three premiere,[81] the second half of season three has met with criticism, particularly for its preoccupation with romance, leading to accusations of the show "devolving into a CW fever dream" and "turning Star City into Dawson's Creek"[82] and becoming a 'soap opera'.[83] After the conclusion of Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak's longterm romance, the flashback sequences were characterized sporadic and "superfluous", with Ra's al Ghul described as a "shallow" and "underutilized" villain "absent of clear antagonism",[84] although Matt Nable was generally praised for his portrayal of the character. Furthermore, while parallels to Batman had always existed in the show, the use of such a major character from Batman's rogues gallery and the essential application of the "Daughter of the Demon" and several other Batman and Ra's al Ghul storylines applied to Oliver Queen came under particular fire from viewers, who accused the show of "ripping off" Batman.[85] The season finale was described as "dull", "lacking scope", and "underwhelming" by IGN's Jesse Schedeen in light of the "high standard" the show had previously established for its finales. He cemented the mixed reception of season three as being "haphazardly paced" and "struggling to develop a clear sense of direction".[86]

The fourth season received mixed reviews. The season earned a strong critical start, with praise given to the action scenes and Neal McDonough's performance as Damien Darhk. However, the second half of the season received increasingly negative reviews for its mundane flashbacks, lack of narrative focus, and formulaic season finale.[87] Ryan Fleming, of Deadbeatspanel.com noted that Arrow was "honoring the comics, but it isn't beholden to them. Characters... have been introduced, but they aren't exact replicas of their comic counterparts. Instead, the characters tend to be loosely connected."[88] Lesley Goldberg of The Hollywood Reporter noted the presence of the character Thea "Speedy" Queen as one of the larger departures from the comics in the series, as well as the character's early willingness to kill.[89] Comic Book Resources's Kevin Melrose has also noted the series tendency to have loose connections to the source material.[90]

The fifth season has received critical acclaim from fans and critics alike, giving praise for the performances of Stephen Amell and Josh Segerra, action sequences, storytelling, season finale, and overall improvements from Seasons 3 and 4. IGN gave Season 5 a score of 8.7 out of 10, stating that the it "managed to overcome them and recapture a lot of what made the show so memorable in its first two seasons".[91]

 
It gets better. But if you haven't liked anything so far, then maybe it isn't for you. When I went back to binge it I used the fast forward button a lot. Basically skipped through any one-off villain storylines and when something felt it was going to get too CW'y. The fast forward button and the wiki page caught me up. The flash backs were always the best part of the early stuff. Actually may still be the best part.
You must be disappointed that they're not going to be doing the flashbacks anymore. They finally caught up with the beginning of the show at the end of the last season. 

 
You must be disappointed that they're not going to be doing the flashbacks anymore. They finally caught up with the beginning of the show at the end of the last season. 


Lots of speculation that we're still going to be getting flashbacks--just not Oliver's. I wouldn't like that at all, but it would make sense--the writers love using overly-obvious parallels between the flashbacks and the present day storylines to drive home whatever lesson everyone's learning that week. I totally believe that it's a storytelling tool (not a good one) they wouldn't be willing to give up--especially since that gives them more time than they've ever needed to fill in the present each episode...to me, spending more time in the present is a plus, but idk what they think. 

 
I feel like both Arrow and The Flash could benefit from shorter seasons. 15 episodes, say, would allow for much leaner storytelling.

 
I feel like both Arrow and The Flash could benefit from shorter seasons. 15 episodes, say, would allow for much leaner storytelling.
Totally agree. There's way too many filler episodes. Not only are they usually lame, they also take away from the tension we're supposed to believe exists from the main story arcs. And it means they have to come up with dumber and dumber reasons why some of the recurring guest stars are missing for 4-5 -episodes per season just so they don't have to pay them all the time, or to make room for one-off characters. 

Seriously, on the Flash this season they had Wally "visiting his girlfriend on Earth 3" or whatever it was less than two weeks before he knew his sister was going to get murdered, a murder they were trying to stop. But they needed him off screen. It's so stupid. 

The 100 has like 16 episodes and it's much tighter as a result--they should do that. 

 
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Totally agree. There's way too many filler episodes. Not only are they usually lame, they also take away from the tension we're supposed to believe exists from the main story arcs. And it means they have to come up with dumber and dumber reasons why some of the recurring guest stars are missing for 4-5 -episodes per season just so they don't have to pay them all the time, or to make room for one-off characters. 

Seriously, on the Flash this season they had Wally "visiting his girlfriend on Earth 3" or whatever it was less than two weeks before he knew his sister was going to get murdered, a murder they were trying to stop. But they needed him off screen. It's so stupid. 

The 100 has like 16 episodes and it's much tighter as a result--they should do that. 
But they also use the filler episodes to do the crossovers that are wildly popular.

 
But they also use the filler episodes to do the crossovers that are wildly popular.
I don't care about the Supergirl or LOT stuff but the Arrow/Flash crossovers are cool with me. That's the stuff comics are made of, and a non-negotiable part of the experience imo. The crossovers can be mid-season and cut out about 6-8 episodes of garbage. It would be very possible without flashbacks for Arrow and also possible for Flash. 

 
Does this show get better after S1? I am hatewatching this with my wife.

Nothing about the first 7 episodes has had even a hint of subtlety. They clobber you over the head with every plot point. The only thing I care about is the hokey "______ you have FAILED THIS CITY."

 
Does this show get better after S1? I am hatewatching this with my wife.

Nothing about the first 7 episodes has had even a hint of subtlety. They clobber you over the head with every plot point. The only thing I care about is the hokey "______ you have FAILED THIS CITY."
Season 2 is arguably the high point of the series, but if it's subtlety you want from a costumed superhero show then you should bail now.

 
Season 2 is arguably the high point of the series, but if it's subtlety you want from a costumed superhero show then you should bail now.
I kinda think I would enjoy the show more if I watched one episode per week. If little sister has to declare "OMG OLIVER MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY TALKING WITH YOUR FAMILY," every episode, I think I should be only watching one at a time.

 
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I kinda think I would enjoy the show more if I watched one episode per week. If little sister has to declare "OMG OLIVER MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY TALKING WITH YOUR FAMILY," every episode, I think I should be only watching one at a time.
Well look, it's the CW, they specialize in overwrought beautiful people angst.

 
Just wrapped up season 5. It was solid, but pretty predictable. Figured out who Prometheus was right away and figured out how the finale would play out. I did enjoy Prometheus over Dhark though. I was about to bail after season 4, but season 5 brought me back in.

 
Oliver's constant struggle with himself and his past is getting on my nerves.  How about the writers just introduce some cool ### villains who want to kill a bunch of people and Olie and team stop them.  Enough of the "it's because of what you did in your past schtick."

 

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