I'm thinking maybe not. Guy is a monster.
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KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
Ryan Grant had a nice game yesterday.
Don't understand why the Dallas coaching staff is the only group that can't figure it out.
Peyton Marino
Footballguy
i was just thinking the exact same thing.
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awesomeness
Guest
ADP, LT, Westbrook, Steven Jackson are all better to name a few
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Jambi
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
this thread smells like a trap being laid to 'clean up' the Shark Pool
KnowledgeReignsSupreme
Footballguy
See: my sig.
FavreCo
Footballguy
About 1/2 dozen at least.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
I think this may be why he hasn't been a full-time back. Coaches gotta be afraid of him hurting himself.
Exile
Footballguy
The amazing thing to me is that it's at least half attitude. Which is to say I doubt the reason he is so hard to tackle is because he's so much stronger/balanced/whatever than any other RB in the league. It's because when you go to tackle him he's like "You and what army, Nancy?"
27 for 129 and a TD. Am I missing something?lool
Jambi
Footballguy
BTW, that's an intentionally misspelled LOL not a misspelled tool
mr. furley
Footballguy
The better RBs is my guess.27 for 129 and a TD. Am I missing something?
Chunky Soup
Footballguy
Maybe 7 if NE put Brady at QB.
Jambi
Footballguy
So you're saying he's the best RB...today27 for 129 and a TD. Am I missing something?lool
As in ones that trotted out onto the field today
mr. furley
Footballguy
:blinky:
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Only other guy I've seen with that attitude is Mike Alstott, and Barber's obviously got him beat on talent.
Joe, Barber may be a great back but I sure wish he would stop beating himself on the chest and jumping up and down when he gets a first down. Now when he gets stuffed, which happened quite a bit today, and I was the tackler I would beat myself on the chest. As the real pros say, act like you have done it before.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Nope.
Heck, he wasn't even the best RB this weekend!
Heck, he wasn't even the best RB this weekend!
Ed Wood
Footballguy
comfortably numb
Footballguy
:reported:
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Didnt he have something like 20 carries in the first half alone?
Squinting Cyclops
Footballguy
I don't think many would want to be the first to try to tackle him, and he IS good, I would easily put in him "top ten" but if he keeps running as a "punisher" he will eventually get himself hurt.
More physical? Probably not.Better? Easily. Doesn't make people miss, doesn't have explosive breakaway speed. You're picking an all star team to face the Pats, and you're taking Barber to start at RB? I doubt it. Not to mention he has hands of stone.LT is still #1. Westbrook #2. SJAX/AP close in. Then it starts to get messy.Joe Bryant said:
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
This was actually already figured out when Barber juked a half a dozen Patriots defenders in his own endzone.Joe Bryant said:
BelichicksRevenge
Footballguy
Does not have the great breakaway speed. Did he wear down in the second half today? Others are better.
Baby New Year
Footballguy
Yes
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
By watching his second half, I'm wondering if the Dallas coaching staff was right all along. He's better with a limited number of carries.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
he's not even top 5 in the league
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I don't know that he's the best Gopher RB in the NFL.
gianmarco
Footballguy
When 2 separate coaching staffs come to the same conclusion, there may be something to it even though our "eyes" tell us something different on Sundays.
Baby New Year
Footballguy
Maroney = 22/122/1 + 2 catches for 40 more and a WIN
Barber = 27/129/1 + 1 catch for 9 and a LOSS
Barber = 27/129/1 + 1 catch for 9 and a LOSS
Giants rush D is very Good. Barber had a decent day ... very good couple of runs and a bogus TD (he was stopped) in the first half and he sucked the rest of the game.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
But he earned a Pro-Bowl trip
he's not even top 5 in the league
switz
Footballguy
You're kidding, right?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
are you for real? he had a good day, yes, but the best RB in the game? please..! he can't hold Brian Westbrook's jockstrap. Or LT's, or LJ's, etc..when Barber scores 17-20 TDs and rushes for 1700+ yards in the same season, then I'll drink the Kool Aid.now he could be the opening day starter next season so maybe he becomes a *stud* RB, but he had a good game with a terrific O-line against a defense that is just OK against the run..this isn't the next Barry Sander's or Priest Holmes..
SigEp316
Footballguy
I agree with all of the above...I hope he doesn't end up like the Tyler Rose.Everyone marveled at Earl Campbell's style too and look how he's ended up.....it's really sad.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
JB, this entire thread is awful.
1. The original post is terrible. Grant ran harder, made more plays, and was better statistically last weekend. Overall, LT, Adrian Peterson, Jackson and Westbrook are all miles above where Barber is right now.
2. For those responding, correlation doesn't always mean causation. Stop with the "Marion shuts down after 20 carries" talk just because he had one mediocre second half. Your sample size is WAY too small to be putting those judgments on him.
But, there's a good lesson here for the future. One of the biggest ways to capitalize in fantasy football is to take the psychological effects of the postseason away. The first psychological effect is the "big game" effect. Just because a player happens to do well in a playoff game or the Super Bowl doesn't mean it holds true for the rest of his career. Players like Deion Branch, etc. get bumped up all the time because of one or two big playoff games, and then people are disappointed.
Secondly, the "recency effect" takes hold as well. Did you know that if you have five candidates for a job, the chances of you hiring the last candidate are 80%? Think about that. Eighty percent, when it should be twenty. That's how our brains are wired. Now, take the big game effect, add on the fact that these are the most recent games we'll see before next year's draft, and add onto the fact that we'll be seeing highlights of these games for the next eight months.
I'll make a stand right now and say Ryan Grant and Marion Barber (and more) will be overrated next year because of their monster games in the playoffs.
1. The original post is terrible. Grant ran harder, made more plays, and was better statistically last weekend. Overall, LT, Adrian Peterson, Jackson and Westbrook are all miles above where Barber is right now.
2. For those responding, correlation doesn't always mean causation. Stop with the "Marion shuts down after 20 carries" talk just because he had one mediocre second half. Your sample size is WAY too small to be putting those judgments on him.
But, there's a good lesson here for the future. One of the biggest ways to capitalize in fantasy football is to take the psychological effects of the postseason away. The first psychological effect is the "big game" effect. Just because a player happens to do well in a playoff game or the Super Bowl doesn't mean it holds true for the rest of his career. Players like Deion Branch, etc. get bumped up all the time because of one or two big playoff games, and then people are disappointed.
Secondly, the "recency effect" takes hold as well. Did you know that if you have five candidates for a job, the chances of you hiring the last candidate are 80%? Think about that. Eighty percent, when it should be twenty. That's how our brains are wired. Now, take the big game effect, add on the fact that these are the most recent games we'll see before next year's draft, and add onto the fact that we'll be seeing highlights of these games for the next eight months.
I'll make a stand right now and say Ryan Grant and Marion Barber (and more) will be overrated next year because of their monster games in the playoffs.
