Asking for the salary range of an internally posted position (1 Viewer)

[Bob Sacamano]

People are dumb.  I could easily see a scenario where he asks, it's minimal and he doesn't pursue it and then someone thinks negative of him for whatever reason 

The lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.

 

[Da Guru]

I don't want to waste my time/effort applying for the job only to find out the salary is not what I expect.

It's difficult because HR knows exactly what I currently make.  I know this position is a promotion but it's a brutal job, I'm willing to take it on if the pay is right.

I'm thinking about asking HR lady(who's new to the company) the salary range before applying.

Thoughts?

For an internal candidate they should post the salary range. In fact they should post it for all candidates.

Should be something like 75-90K depending on experience.   Just walk in with confidence and politely  say who saw the posting and would like to know what the salary range of the job is.  That is normal. 

 

[Phil Elliott]

Look, Mr. Jones, I just want to say, I... you've always been a hero of mine. We studied your menus and recipes... - A hero or a god? - I... I don't know the difference. - Would you work for me for nothing? - For nothing? - For food, for meals. - Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah, if I was learning loads, yeah. - Would you pay me? How much would you pay me to work for me? Would you pay me a hundred pounds a week? Two hundred? Three hundred? I'm trying to make a point. Your resume is great, this lamb's f*cking fantastic, but you lack arrogance. And to be in my kitchen, you have to defend yourself.  - Chef Adam Jones (Bradley Cooper) in "Burnt"

Another perspective at what a job is worth to you.

 

[Ignoramus]

Versus applying for the job for ????  = I'm drawing a blank here, that's a pretty reasonable reason to apply for a job.  In fact, I'd say it's the most reasonable reason. 

"Yes, I'd like more responsibility but for the same or less pay, if possible."

 

[Sand]

The perception that I'm only applying for the job because of the salary

Promotions come with higher salaries.  I don't see anything at all wrong with being interested in that part of it.  If they ask just say it's "part of your decision matrix".  HR loves that kind of stuff.

 

[top dog]

Just walk into the HR manager's office and say "Listen hear sugar ####. You and I both know I'd be awesome at this gig.  How much you willin' to pay me?  I need to know if it's worth my time sitting down with you."

 

[snore]

I think the salary range is a good proxy but feel that many people assume they will qualify for the top half of the range. However if the bottom half of the range is higher than what you are making currently that is a pretty good sign of what a potential increase may be.

Where I work, we budget the salary based upon the range when posting a position. So for example if the range is 75k-100k, I may budget for an 90k position and thats my top line number thats approved by finance and as high as I would go for a candidate unless I think it would be worthwhile to go to bat with finance for more.  Part of that is because if you bring someone in at the top salary range, merit increases are deflated (based upon how my company works) because you are at the top of the scale and are probably going to need to be promoted to get more.  

 

[lumpy19]

Would you want to take on 50% more work for 5% more pay?

Right, this is a move to operations for a plant that runs 24/7, I'd essentially be on call all the time in this position which I'm not excited about but 

 

[lumpy19]

I went to talk to HR lady and she had a line outside her office, it'll have to wait until monday

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Right, this is a move to operations for a plant that runs 24/7, I'd essentially be on call all the time in this position which I'm not excited about but 

Pass.

 

[TheGooRoo]

Pass.

 hard pass.

 

[The Ref]

 hard pass.

Do not pass go, do not inquire about salary range.

 

[mquinnjr]

I don't want to waste my time/effort applying for the job only to find out the salary is not what I expect.

It's difficult because HR knows exactly what I currently make.  I know this position is a promotion but it's a brutal job, I'm willing to take it on if the pay is right.

I'm thinking about asking HR lady(who's new to the company) the salary range before applying.

Thoughts?

I'm going through the same. It's tough, I'm in accounting/corporate FP&A and you're only worth so much based on what you've done so far and what you bring to the table. What I'm getting out of the role I'm bidding on experience wise I'm finding is just as if not more valuable long term than negotiating to try to squeeze a few extra thousand bucks out in salary ex. bonus. Salary band for the position is the key to know if it's serious consideration for you. You could ask what band the position falls into and get the range from HR without being so direct on a specific number. Sometimes it's listed in the job posting, especially if internal. If the interview goes well, they either want you and make you whole to get your services, or they waffle and you move on. I'm at a point where if I want to be a CFO someday, it's worth my while to take not as big of a bump in pay if the experience is worth it and positions me to the next level a few years down the road.

 

[kutta]

Right, this is a move to operations for a plant that runs 24/7, I'd essentially be on call all the time in this position which I'm not excited about but 

I disagree with the guys saying to pass. If the pay is good, and it opens more doors, do it, at least for awhile. It’s like Robert on Shark Tank says - I’d rather be tired than poor.

You have your whole life to sleep. Go make some money.

 

[RokNRole]

I disagree with the guys saying to pass. If the pay is good, and it opens more doors, do it, at least for awhile. It’s like Robert on Shark Tank says - I’d rather be tired than poor.

You have your whole life to sleep. Go make some money.

Not if he drops dead from the stress.

 

[kutta]

Not if he drops dead from the stress.

There’s way more stress being poor than there is in any job.

 

[RokNRole]

There’s way more stress being poor than there is in any job.

He won’t be poor he will still have his old job.

 

[kutta]

He won’t be poor he will still have his old job.

Well we don’t really know if he’s poor right now, even with his old job.

But I guess I’m just saying that no job that pays well comes without stress. That’s basically why you get paid. If you want to make more $, you’ll have to be willing to increase work stress.

 

[RokNRole]

Well we don’t really know if he’s poor right now, even with his old job.

But I guess I’m just saying that no job that pays well comes without stress. That’s basically why you get paid. If you want to make more $, you’ll have to be willing to increase work stress.

Or have a rare skill.

The guy should really inquire about the salary to see if it’s worth it to him. I think that wouldn’t look as bad as going through the process and turning it down when it comes time to negotiate, if even inquiring looks bad at all.

 

[kutta]

Or have a rare skill.

The guy should really inquire about the salary to see if it’s worth it to him. I think that wouldn’t look as bad as going through the process and turning it down when it comes time to negotiate, if even inquiring looks bad at all.

Like drawing dong pics ?

BTW, I may have a custom art job for you soon if you are interested. I’ll PM you if things fall right and I need the pic.

 

[RokNRole]

Like drawing dong pics ?

BTW, I may have a custom art job for you soon if you are interested. I’ll PM you if things fall right and I need the pic.

I’m thinking heavily about pursuing art again. I got screwed royally in the corporate world and I don’t think I would ever feel comfortable getting in to that again and I can’t be a career waiter because it’s depressing.

Ive made some other artist friends and one that is soon coming in to some considerable money soon that will invest as long as we all do the work. My girlfriend recently decided to move in with me in Dallas and she’s encouraging me to follow my talents and get out of the drudgery. It may be t shirts again, or writing a book ( she has publishing connections) or both.

Ive even been encouraged by my friends to adapt my book idea to a script to submit to Netflix for a show.

Im open to any art if it’s not a portrait ( you or anyone’s dong).

 

[RokNRole]

Anyway I wasn’t trying to hijack this thread.

OP I think it’s in your best interest to ask about salary and benefits attached to the new position. I’m assuming you are a family man and I can’t see anyone faulting you for asking important questions like that before potentially wasting HRs time considering you. I was in HR and I’m not a family man but I would completely understand and not think twice one way or the other if someone asked an important question like that.

 

[lumpy19]

I never ended up requesting the salary range but fortunately for me on the job application there was a line item for required salary, if i get an interview now I'll at least know I'm in the range I think is fair.

 

[Peyton Marino]

I never ended up requesting the salary range but fortunately for me on the job application there was a line item for required salary, if i get an interview now I'll at least know I'm in the range I think is fair.

Just ask them to pay you in bitcoin

 

[AAABatteries]

There’s way more stress being poor than there is in any job.

I don't know - that homeless guy I pass every day seems to be under a lot less stress than me.  He's always singing and laughing.  I hate him.

 

[kutta]

I don't know - that homeless guy I pass every day seems to be under a lot less stress than me.  He's always singing and laughing.  I hate him.

Yeah, but imagine his stress when he's trying to sleep in the park in the rain.