Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I wanted to write a thread on the terrible state of current movies but before trashing the new ones perhaps I should reflect on why I feel that way. Were the movies that much better in the time period I grew up in? The 1980s is filled with a lot of cheesy movies but it also has some unbelievable years for film. One year that jumps out is 1985 with perhaps the 80s icon of film in Back to the Future.
Instead I will focus on a different year or summer mostly where there is a classic it seems almost every week at the theaters. The first couple years of the 80s is mostly a continuation of the 70s but in 1982 we see a shift from those films in the 60s and 70s to a different style and also the action and acceptable violence starts to get raised to new levels.
May ‘82
Conan the Barbarian: Depends on what your taste in film but this is easily the best of anything ever done in this genre. Pt.2 was a dud although you can appreciate it’s campiness but in this one they crucify Arnold into an actual living tree, James Earl Jones ups the acting value and the cinematography is really good in this.
The Road Warrior MM2: Are you kidding, back to back weeks and you unleash both of these films? Most folks like this one the best out of the first trilogy. It only made $24M at the box office. Granted, back then movies cost less than $5 to go see but this got more legs on HBO to be honest. I bet that’s how many of you saw it who were under 12 when this was released.
Rocky III: It had Mr. T and Hulk Hogan in it. It was the first Rocky movie I saw in the theater, T scared the hell out of me. Looking back this film pales in comparison to I and II but it has it’s moments and did $125M, that was a lot back then.
June ‘82
Poltergeist: The 1st one scared the hell out of people especially kids as this somehow snuck out a PG rating. That clown in the closet...run Carol Anne RUN!!!
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan...same weekend no less when it was released. Most folks feel this is the best of all the movies in this franchise.
E.T. is released the very next week and would go on to rack up $440M at the box office, maybe less on it’s 1st go but it stayed in theaters for months, maybe thru Christmas and the following Oscar season. I don’t think anyone born 1990s and beyond understands what it’s like for a movie to be so dominant for months and talked about repeatedly in the news.
The last weekend in June would see 2 films that did not make a lot of money but would go on to become major cult classics and talked about for decades.
Blade Runner with Harrison Ford and Rutger Hauer turning in amazing performances.
The Thing with Kurt Russell and I watched this just a couple months ago and was surprised just how good this John Carpenter film was.
July/Aug ‘82
As you can imagine things slow down just a bit here but there still are some quality films here, just depends on how old you are on if you ever saw any of these films before they got a little dated or the genre died like musicals which have jumped to animation in more recent years.
The Secret of Nimh
Tron
Six Pack: Kenny Rogers and a young Diane Lane
Best Lil Whorehouse in Texas
Officer and a Gentleman
Pink Floyd:The Wall
Fast Times at Ridgemont High...Let’s Party!
And finally to round out the summer how about The Beastmaster!
Later that same year…
First Blood: Easily one of Stallone’s very best, some good casting around him as well.
48 Hours: The birth of the buddy cop film and would spawn many other franchises.
Tootsie: One of Dustin Hoffman’s best and that’s saying something when you add up all his great work. Bill Murray gives us the first hint that he has bigger plans beyond slapstick comedy.
I also should mention the two biggest %^&*@! movies for teenage boys in the early 80s, Porky's and The Beach Girls. This was prior to internet when you had to try and find dad's stash of Playboys...some of you just wouldn't understand, the dark ages.
So now let’s talk about 2016 or any of the recent years. The landscape has changed a lot. We got Spider Man in 2001 or 2002 with Tobey McGuire and since that point we have been fed with regularity a series of comic book characters and movies at least a couple times a year and it gets to the point where I’ve seen one I’ve seen them all it feels like. I enjoy Iron Man and that character can even carry the Avengers for part of the film but at a point I just disconnect and don’t care because I didn’t collect comics as a kid and I am only invested so much.
I miss more of the old school action Lethal Weapon/Die Hard style films. Even Road Warrior the way it is filmed with no green screens and very little cartoonish special efx it has an authentic look to it. Movies do not look real anymore. It’s just green screen and fill in around the actors who you can clearly see don’t have any idea what is happening around them.
Get off My Lawn!!!
Instead I will focus on a different year or summer mostly where there is a classic it seems almost every week at the theaters. The first couple years of the 80s is mostly a continuation of the 70s but in 1982 we see a shift from those films in the 60s and 70s to a different style and also the action and acceptable violence starts to get raised to new levels.
May ‘82
Conan the Barbarian: Depends on what your taste in film but this is easily the best of anything ever done in this genre. Pt.2 was a dud although you can appreciate it’s campiness but in this one they crucify Arnold into an actual living tree, James Earl Jones ups the acting value and the cinematography is really good in this.
The Road Warrior MM2: Are you kidding, back to back weeks and you unleash both of these films? Most folks like this one the best out of the first trilogy. It only made $24M at the box office. Granted, back then movies cost less than $5 to go see but this got more legs on HBO to be honest. I bet that’s how many of you saw it who were under 12 when this was released.
Rocky III: It had Mr. T and Hulk Hogan in it. It was the first Rocky movie I saw in the theater, T scared the hell out of me. Looking back this film pales in comparison to I and II but it has it’s moments and did $125M, that was a lot back then.
June ‘82
Poltergeist: The 1st one scared the hell out of people especially kids as this somehow snuck out a PG rating. That clown in the closet...run Carol Anne RUN!!!
Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan...same weekend no less when it was released. Most folks feel this is the best of all the movies in this franchise.
E.T. is released the very next week and would go on to rack up $440M at the box office, maybe less on it’s 1st go but it stayed in theaters for months, maybe thru Christmas and the following Oscar season. I don’t think anyone born 1990s and beyond understands what it’s like for a movie to be so dominant for months and talked about repeatedly in the news.
The last weekend in June would see 2 films that did not make a lot of money but would go on to become major cult classics and talked about for decades.
Blade Runner with Harrison Ford and Rutger Hauer turning in amazing performances.
The Thing with Kurt Russell and I watched this just a couple months ago and was surprised just how good this John Carpenter film was.
July/Aug ‘82
As you can imagine things slow down just a bit here but there still are some quality films here, just depends on how old you are on if you ever saw any of these films before they got a little dated or the genre died like musicals which have jumped to animation in more recent years.
The Secret of Nimh
Tron
Six Pack: Kenny Rogers and a young Diane Lane
Best Lil Whorehouse in Texas
Officer and a Gentleman
Pink Floyd:The Wall
Fast Times at Ridgemont High...Let’s Party!
And finally to round out the summer how about The Beastmaster!
Later that same year…
First Blood: Easily one of Stallone’s very best, some good casting around him as well.
48 Hours: The birth of the buddy cop film and would spawn many other franchises.
Tootsie: One of Dustin Hoffman’s best and that’s saying something when you add up all his great work. Bill Murray gives us the first hint that he has bigger plans beyond slapstick comedy.
I also should mention the two biggest %^&*@! movies for teenage boys in the early 80s, Porky's and The Beach Girls. This was prior to internet when you had to try and find dad's stash of Playboys...some of you just wouldn't understand, the dark ages.
So now let’s talk about 2016 or any of the recent years. The landscape has changed a lot. We got Spider Man in 2001 or 2002 with Tobey McGuire and since that point we have been fed with regularity a series of comic book characters and movies at least a couple times a year and it gets to the point where I’ve seen one I’ve seen them all it feels like. I enjoy Iron Man and that character can even carry the Avengers for part of the film but at a point I just disconnect and don’t care because I didn’t collect comics as a kid and I am only invested so much.
I miss more of the old school action Lethal Weapon/Die Hard style films. Even Road Warrior the way it is filmed with no green screens and very little cartoonish special efx it has an authentic look to it. Movies do not look real anymore. It’s just green screen and fill in around the actors who you can clearly see don’t have any idea what is happening around them.
Get off My Lawn!!!