Im curious what you're basing this on since we haven't seen Walter play yet.Andrew Walter
I just think he was a good talent coming out of college... I don't really have any proof behind it but I wouldn't mind holding onto him in a dynasty format.Im curious what you're basing this on since we haven't seen Walter play yet.Andrew Walter
Michael TurnerChris PerryGive me your list in order of the best backup RB's in the NFL
Interested in the ratings of-
Mewelde Moore
Chris Perry
Marion Barber
Mike Anderson
Ryan Moats
Kevean Barlow?
Cant wait to see responses
Michael "THE BURNER" Turner
Exactly what I was going to post.Immediately come to mind:
RB: Chris Perry, Michael Turner
I like Perry, but we're looking at two injury plagued seasons from Perry. Flashes of use in the passing game and token carries. Not sure how that equates to pulling Rudi off the field.Chris Perry. The dude is slowly pulling Rudi off the field.
I agree with Barber, MM, and even Mike Anderson. I would also like to nominate a healthy Michael Bennett (if there is such a thing).
Perry does have a more august pedigree than Rudi. He was rated one of the top RBs in the draft, if you recall, and was a 1st round pick. I think he could really begin to cut into Rudi's carries as long as he avoids injury.I like Perry, but we're looking at two injury plagued seasons from Perry. Flashes of use in the passing game and token carries. Not sure how that equates to pulling Rudi off the field.
He was drafted earlier than guys who are considered much more valuable in fantasy. I think he could be one of the top backs in his class. I have been calling him one of my main super value plays since last August. The kid has oodles of ability and is a great athlete -- the question is durability. But for the cheap price, and with his tremendous upside, he is well worth it.If he stays healthy and ever earns that job, I would not be in the least bit surprised to see Chris Perry be a top 5 fantasy RB.Perry does have a more august pedigree than Rudi. He was rated one of the top RBs in the draft, if you recall, and was a 1st round pick. I think he could really begin to cut into Rudi's carries as long as he avoids injury.I like Perry, but we're looking at two injury plagued seasons from Perry. Flashes of use in the passing game and token carries. Not sure how that equates to pulling Rudi off the field.
how do you figure?Chris Perry. The dude is slowly pulling Rudi off the field.
why do you think so?Michael "THE BURNER" Turner
why do you think so?Michael "THE BURNER" Turner
+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2004 sdg | 13 | 20 104 5.2 0 | 4 8 2.0 0 || 2005 sdg | 16 | 57 335 5.9 3 | 0 0 0.0 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 29 | 77 439 5.7 3 | 4 8 2.0 0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
I think its just that Marty seems to know how to get the most out of all his RBs and if he is to get this op you speak of, it will come in another system with LT in town (most likely of course). A system I and most probably have far less confidence in. As far as ability, I think the guys I listed are all better.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
Is it good or bad that i own so many of these guys in a dynasty?Mike Anderson (has to be listed as the 2)
Dom Davis (soon)
Marshall Faulk
Ricky Williams
Michael Turner
Michael Pittman
Maurice Morris
Cedric Benson
TJ Duckett
Kevin Faulk
Ryan Moats
Marion Barber
Chris Perry
Cedrick Houston
Nick Goings
Duce Staley
Michael Bennett
Travis Henry
Ladell Betts
Dominic Rhodes (soon)
Samkon Gado
LaBrandon ToeField
Mewelde Moore
Kevan Barlow (behind Gore)
Ron Dayne (behind Bell)
Shawn Bryson
Lee Suggs
Justin Fargas
Just to name a few
If they watched his college game film he should have gone a lot higher as well. He is 13th on the NCAA's all-time rushing list (4,941 yards).I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
Didn't list him as I view him as the 3rd, not 2nd (Houston), back.Derrick Blaylock. He played great when he was a Chief. Got hurt last year in NY and Houston got the opportunity, but I think if C-Mart goes down again this year, he could have a shot.
Good, unless that's all you got.Hopefully you have 1-2 #1 guys, otherwise start trading the 2s to the owner of the 1s for upgrades. You'd also be best served to have the backup / 2nd back to two of the backs an owner has - you can give him say Perry for Rudi's backup and get Warrick Dunn to couple with Duckett, for example.Is it good or bad that i own so many of these guys in a dynasty?Mike Anderson (has to be listed as the 2)
Dom Davis (soon)
Marshall Faulk
Ricky Williams
Michael Turner
Michael Pittman
Maurice Morris
Cedric Benson
TJ Duckett
Kevin Faulk
Ryan Moats
Marion Barber
Chris Perry
Cedrick Houston
Nick Goings
Duce Staley
Michael Bennett
Travis Henry
Ladell Betts
Dominic Rhodes (soon)
Samkon Gado
LaBrandon ToeField
Mewelde Moore
Kevan Barlow (behind Gore)
Ron Dayne (behind Bell)
Shawn Bryson
Lee Suggs
Justin Fargas
Just to name a few
Ok, so does any RB. You could put Ron Dayne / Lamar Gordon, aunt mellie in KC and have success.Derrick Blaylock. He played great when he was a Chief. Got hurt last year in NY and Houston got the opportunity, but I think if C-Mart goes down again this year, he could have a shot.
Well, up to a point. But the whole you could put my grandmother behind that line and she'd run for 1000 yards argument isn't so clearcut in KC as with Denver.In Denver, the evidence is striking. Elite guys like Terrell Davis and Portis have excelled, but then distinctly average guys like Olandis Gary, Reuben Droughns, Mike Anderson and even Quentin Griffin for a brief spell have done well too. So clearly it is the line and the system to some extent.In KC, both Priest and LJ have excelled, but then they're superb backs too. Obviously the KC line is great, but they're not making those two the backs they are. Now, the experience of Blaylock wasn't really sustained enough to allow us to come to a definitive conclusion. I thought he looked speedy and sharp enough that it wasn't just the line. I think he'd have a good shot elsewhere.Ok, so does any RB. You could put Ron Dayne / Lamar Gordon, aunt mellie in KC and have success.
One negative might be that guy (Chatman?) that was cut and hasn't done much of anything since. He was well liked as "potential" and LTs backup. Maybe that makes people think. System?I don't see him very useful in SD. I realize you alluded to him playing for another team. While he's there though he's not going to be too productive IMO. Aside from LT, I expect Sproles to get a handful of touches too. Also in limitted preseason time I've kinda liked FB Pinnock. IIRC He had a bunch of catches last year and looked like he could be a 4th and 1 chain mover. So IMO as LT's backup he's just part of an arsenal.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
Well then how about when he was a Chief he was better or on par with LJ.Ok, so does any RB.Derrick Blaylock. He played great when he was a Chief. Got hurt last year in NY and Houston got the opportunity, but I think if C-Mart goes down again this year, he could have a shot.
You're right, Jesse Chatman did look really good a couple years ago. I think he was successful because of the system. In fact, chatman was cut mostly because of the emergence of Turner, as well as the fact that he didn't rehab himself well in the offseason and came to camp overweight.But Turner is a much bigger and more physical back than Chatman, plus he has break away speed. If LT were to miss any time, Chatman would put up huge numbers, and next year he could be the next Lamont Jordan.One negative might be that guy (Chatman?) that was cut and hasn't done much of anything since. He was well liked as "potential" and LTs backup. Maybe that makes people think. System?I don't see him very useful in SD. I realize you alluded to him playing for another team. While he's there though he's not going to be too productive IMO. Aside from LT, I expect Sproles to get a handful of touches too. Also in limitted preseason time I've kinda liked FB Pinnock. IIRC He had a bunch of catches last year and looked like he could be a 4th and 1 chain mover. So IMO as LT's backup he's just part of an arsenal.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
You don't know much about Michael Turner if you are comparing him to the likes of Antonio Chatman. Time will show you the difference.One negative might be that guy (Chatman?) that was cut and hasn't done much of anything since. He was well liked as "potential" and LTs backup. Maybe that makes people think. System?I don't see him very useful in SD. I realize you alluded to him playing for another team. While he's there though he's not going to be too productive IMO. Aside from LT, I expect Sproles to get a handful of touches too. Also in limitted preseason time I've kinda liked FB Pinnock. IIRC He had a bunch of catches last year and looked like he could be a 4th and 1 chain mover. So IMO as LT's backup he's just part of an arsenal.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
nah jesse chatman? jesse? hmmmYou don't know much about Michael Turner if you are comparing him to the likes of Antonio Chatman. Time will show you the difference.One negative might be that guy (Chatman?) that was cut and hasn't done much of anything since. He was well liked as "potential" and LTs backup. Maybe that makes people think. System?I don't see him very useful in SD. I realize you alluded to him playing for another team. While he's there though he's not going to be too productive IMO. Aside from LT, I expect Sproles to get a handful of touches too. Also in limitted preseason time I've kinda liked FB Pinnock. IIRC He had a bunch of catches last year and looked like he could be a 4th and 1 chain mover. So IMO as LT's backup he's just part of an arsenal.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
Whichever. Jesse. Antonio. Jimmy. Regardless Turner is a future NFL starter.nah jesse chatman? jesse? hmmmYou don't know much about Michael Turner if you are comparing him to the likes of Antonio Chatman. Time will show you the difference.One negative might be that guy (Chatman?) that was cut and hasn't done much of anything since. He was well liked as "potential" and LTs backup. Maybe that makes people think. System?I don't see him very useful in SD. I realize you alluded to him playing for another team. While he's there though he's not going to be too productive IMO. Aside from LT, I expect Sproles to get a handful of touches too. Also in limitted preseason time I've kinda liked FB Pinnock. IIRC He had a bunch of catches last year and looked like he could be a 4th and 1 chain mover. So IMO as LT's backup he's just part of an arsenal.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
I didn't compare them, all I stated was that Chatman might make teams think system with Turner. See a few posts up, toxicbees post.Whichever. Jesse. Antonio. Jimmy. Regardless Turner is a future NFL starter.nah jesse chatman? jesse? hmmmYou don't know much about Michael Turner if you are comparing him to the likes of Antonio Chatman. Time will show you the difference.One negative might be that guy (Chatman?) that was cut and hasn't done much of anything since. He was well liked as "potential" and LTs backup. Maybe that makes people think. System?I don't see him very useful in SD. I realize you alluded to him playing for another team. While he's there though he's not going to be too productive IMO. Aside from LT, I expect Sproles to get a handful of touches too. Also in limitted preseason time I've kinda liked FB Pinnock. IIRC He had a bunch of catches last year and looked like he could be a 4th and 1 chain mover. So IMO as LT's backup he's just part of an arsenal.Turner is one of the most undervalued players in dynasty leagues right now. He has shown me more than enough to think that A) he will get a feature back job down the line and B) he will do well with it. I think people are hung up on the fact that he wasn't a high draft pick (mid 5th round). If NFL GMs could have had his game tape from his NFL career so far shipped back in time before the 04 draft, he would have went a lot higher.
Lee Suggs? When was the last time he was off the trainers table.QB:
David Garrard
Matt Schaub
Andrew Walter
RB:
Maurice Morris
Michael Turner
MBIII
Lee Suggs
Nah, teams have film.I didn't compare them, all I stated was that Chatman might make teams think system with Turner.