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excellent question
oh come on now...this is a valid question, and is not phrased to reference his team.
If you're going to tell people what to do based on a post, you might want to actually read the post.
The OP didn't ask who to start. He asked who the Giants were starting to take the place of Nicks. This is a completely relevant and important question.
This seems most likely.
what he said.Plus Hixon can play both spots and give Cruz a breather. Don't forget these guys go deep moreso than most teams send their WRs deep. They need breathers at times. Don't expect Hixon to make a sweet long punt return then go in and run a deep route. The Gmen give their WRs breathers pretty regularly and I think they do it well.Barden "gets in the way" when run blocking, he's not such a good blocker....can't call him ineffective so much but I'd definitely prefer Hixon blocking.There''s no question Barden is a better red zone target with his gigantic frame and "ups" but the defense will know that too.I'm not a Hixon fan, but if ya got him on your FF team apparently you are. I don't see why you can't start either of these guys this week.
Knicks is a stud, so unless you can get his true value, I'd keep him and add Hixon. Eli does a great job of spreading the ball around and taking advantage of mismatches so it's hard to tell who will be the guy who goes off besides Cruz when Knicks is out. Hixon to me is the guy because he's done it prior to this year too.
No, not at all.This is the final drive.
58) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short right to 13-R.Barden (24-N.Asomugha).53) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short right to 13-R.Barden. PENALTY on PHI-24-N.Asomugha, Defensive Pass Interference, 8 yards, enforced at PHI 35 - No Play.49) (Shotgun) 44-A.Bradshaw left tackle to PHI 26 for 1 yard (97-C.Jenkins).25) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep right to 13-R.Barden. PENALTY on NYG-13-R.Barden, Offensive Pass Interference, 10 yards, enforced at PHI 26 - No Play.21) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep right to 87-D.Hixon.He has been the stereotypical flash in the pan.He's made some sweet returns, some nice grabs, some sweet runs after the catch. If I'm not mistaken, the Broncos and Gmen used him on reverses which he did well on occasionally.He's never put it together. The nice game builds hope and more targets and then sheer frustration. He's definitely more mature now and I am reasonably hopeful he'll continue to do well. That was the deal with him in the past though.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657548&st=0&p=14825828&hl=barden&fromsearch=1entry14825828Should prolly merge this with the barden thread, but there's a YouTube link to barden highlights there...
To clarify, I thought his PI penalty cost the Gmen the game by moving them out of FG range. I know Coughlin hates mental mistakes. That's why I was wondering if he would bury Barden.No, not at all.This is the final drive.
[*]6-A.Henery kicks 67 yards from PHI 35 to NYG -2. 22-D.Wilson to NYG 35 for 37 yards (6-A.Henery).
[*]1-10-NYG 35 (1:43) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short right to 80-V.Cruz.
[*]2-10-NYG 35 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning FUMBLES (Aborted) at NYG 30, and recovers at NYG 30. 10-E.Manning pass incomplete to 13-R.Barden.
[*]3-10-NYG 35 (1:34) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass short right to 80-V.Cruz to NYG 44 for 9 yards (22-B.Boykin).
[*]4-1-NYG 44 (1:03) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep right to 13-R.Barden. PENALTY on PHI-23-D.Rodgers-Cromartie, Defensive Pass Interference, 21 yards, enforced at NYG 44 - No Play.
[*]1-10-PHI 35 (1:03) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short left to 80-V.Cruz (22-B.Boykin).
[*]2-10-PHI 35
[*]3-10-PHI 35
[*]1-10-PHI 27
[*]2-9-PHI 26
[*]2-19-PHI 36
I'd rather refs "let em play" but to each his own. Two defensive PI and then Barden's.
I thought the Giants were fishing for one, can't recall which. I'm not a fan of that tactic even though they got it.
He's so inexperienced and those awesome CBs toyed with him on that drive. He's learning on the fly and those CBs were a tough matchup for him.
Barden prevented a pick IMO.To clarify, I thought his PI penalty cost the Gmen the game by moving them out of FG range. I know Coughlin hates mental mistakes. That's why I was wondering if he would bury Barden.No, not at all.This is the final drive.
[*]6-A.Henery kicks 67 yards from PHI 35 to NYG -2. 22-D.Wilson to NYG 35 for 37 yards (6-A.Henery).
[*]1-10-NYG 35 (1:43) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short right to 80-V.Cruz.
[*]2-10-NYG 35 (1:39) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning FUMBLES (Aborted) at NYG 30, and recovers at NYG 30. 10-E.Manning pass incomplete to 13-R.Barden.
[*]3-10-NYG 35 (1:34) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass short right to 80-V.Cruz to NYG 44 for 9 yards (22-B.Boykin).
[*]4-1-NYG 44 (1:03) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete deep right to 13-R.Barden. PENALTY on PHI-23-D.Rodgers-Cromartie, Defensive Pass Interference, 21 yards, enforced at NYG 44 - No Play.
[*]1-10-PHI 35 (1:03) (Shotgun) 10-E.Manning pass incomplete short left to 80-V.Cruz (22-B.Boykin).
[*]2-10-PHI 35
[*]3-10-PHI 35
[*]1-10-PHI 27
[*]2-9-PHI 26
[*]2-19-PHI 36
I'd rather refs "let em play" but to each his own. Two defensive PI and then Barden's.
I thought the Giants were fishing for one, can't recall which. I'm not a fan of that tactic even though they got it.
He's so inexperienced and those awesome CBs toyed with him on that drive. He's learning on the fly and those CBs were a tough matchup for him.
Well...I guess that solves this issue.
Yeah he's a 6 foot 6 inch WR with good ups and soft hands. His red zone ability will be a constant tease for FF. The Giants use him in the redzone so the gamble is a tricky one and it is quite possible he is in and Hixon is out inside the 20. Hixon is far more experienced and (like I said above) if he's going to be reliable the Giants will surely appreciate that. He hasn't been earlier in his career but seems to be now. The Giants O can easily use 3 WRs and have done so often. This isn't so much Barden versus Hixon until Nicks comes back. There's enough for the two of them now.
There wasn't enough for two last week. You may be right long term - but your argument is illogical based on the facts to this point.Seems like every time somebody posts in a thread, they should have a mandatory disclosure statement - "Yes, I own Ramses Barden."
what do you have for targets for the two?
Does not really matter. Hixon played 91% of the snaps last week and got 11 targets with Barden healthy AND coming off a big statistical break out game. There really should no longer be a question as to which one of them is the preferred Nicks handcuff or which is the one to own.
it's 7 for Barden, 13 for Hixon, chunk whatever site can't count there. That should be enough for both IMO.
OK then I'll stop discussing it
Hixon didnt play the week before due to a concussion
right
Used ESPN. I am guessing the 3 more for Barden are the PI calls. 7 targets and they were playing from behind (so they increased the 3 WR sets). Not stating 7 is bad - but nothing to get excited about - that's likely 3-4 receptions.
