Barr Says Police May Stop Protecting Communities (1 Viewer)

[BladeRunner]

And if you watch the video, the reporter asks the candidate, "Ok so it doesn't mean no police." And then the video cuts without giving his answer. He seems to be saying an end to the type of contemporary policing - which he links to historical racism.

I'd be very surprised if there is anyone - outside of a few far radicals - that would advocate for no policing.

I do believe criminals also support no policing. 

 

[Zow]

Barr is saying you could lose your police protection. Apparently they don't want it anymore anyway. Lets make this happen and make it a game show.

Calls growing to abolish police in cities across America

Talk about 100% insanity. Please do so I can laugh as crime in your liberal cities goes full blown Escape from New York, where gangs run territories freely.

You’d laugh? 

I’m not a big gun guy and think owning weapons isn’t smart (much like advocating for no policing). But I’m sure as hell not laughing if some kid accidentally gets ahold of the gun and shoots himself or others. 

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

You’d laugh? 

I hope it's just a figure of speech meaning "I'd recognize the irony."

(Although the "let's make this happen" and "please do" suggest maybe not.)

 

[parasaurolophus]

You’d laugh? 

I’m not a big gun guy and think owning weapons isn’t smart (much like advocating for no policing). But I’m sure as hell not laughing if some kid accidentally gets ahold of the gun and shoots himself or others. 

What does that have to do with policing? 

 

[Mile High]

And if you watch the video, the reporter asks the candidate, "Ok so it doesn't mean no police." And then the video cuts without giving his answer. He seems to be saying an end to the type of contemporary policing - which he links to historical racism.

I'd be very surprised if there is anyone - outside of a few far radicals - that would advocate for no policing.

Yeah the video was nothing more then one guy in Seattle said something and here's a couple of reviews.  Then they speculate on what would happen.  No city is going to get rid of their police force.

 

[Zow]

What does that have to do with policing? 

I've written at length in this thread about how there are certain jobs where the professional just has to do his or her job regardless of the community reaction. I think the police are one of those jobs. So, when I see a poster write that he'd literally laugh at some community members being harmed because they didn't want police presence, I find that notion disturbing. I recognize that the poster finds the idea that there shouldn't be police to be dumb or stupid (and I think he's right), but I don't think that justifies a feeling of laughter or elation if a person or entire community later suffers because of a stupid stance or decision. 

To express my disturbance, I decided to draw an analogy to something that I find to be "dumb" or "stupid" to the extent that it may be detrimental. For me, that decision is gun ownership (you can insert smoking cigarettes, over-consuming alcohol, doing drugs, or owning a pit bull, etc.) because, statistically speaking, one is more likely to harm himself or his family with the gun than the person is to use the gun to protect his family. So, cost-benefit-wise, owning a firearm is arguably "stupid" (like smoking cigarettes, etc.). But, I still would feel awful if that person or a family member were injured from that gun. In other words, I wouldn't be thinking "ha, that's what you get, stupid!" like the poster I was quoting seemed to be saying is how he'd react if a community suffered because they didn't want police. 

 

[parasaurolophus]

I've written at length in this thread about how there are certain jobs where the professional just has to do his or her job regardless of the community reaction. I think the police are one of those jobs. So, when I see a poster write that he'd literally laugh at some community members being harmed because they didn't want police presence, I find that notion disturbing. I recognize that the poster finds the idea that there shouldn't be police to be dumb or stupid (and I think he's right), but I don't think that justifies a feeling of laughter or elation if a person or entire community later suffers because of a stupid stance or decision. 

To express my disturbance, I decided to draw an analogy to something that I find to be "dumb" or "stupid" to the extent that it may be detrimental. For me, that decision is gun ownership (you can insert smoking cigarettes, over-consuming alcohol, doing drugs, or owning a pit bull, etc.) because, statistically speaking, one is more likely to harm himself or his family with the gun than the person is to use the gun to protect his family. So, cost-benefit-wise, owning a firearm is arguably "stupid" (like smoking cigarettes, etc.). But, I still would feel awful if that person or a family member were injured from that gun. In other words, I wouldn't be thinking "ha, that's what you get, stupid!" like the poster I was quoting seemed to be saying is how he'd react if a community suffered because they didn't want police. 

I understand now. 

I guess i just took his comments less seriously than you did and from a different perspective. 

Side note: I know a guy that was a big gun guy. He accidentally shot himself in the foot in his car. I legitimately find that hilarious. Zero sympathy. I am actually happy it happened because who knows where that bullet could have hit if it didnt hit his foot first. 

Had he shot one of his friends or family or a stranger, different story of course. But as far as I am concerned that was the best possible outcome.

 

[The Z Machine]

He accidentally shot himself in the foot in his car.

How?

 

[parasaurolophus]

How?

He told multiple versions so I am not positive. 

 

[Zow]

I understand now. 

I guess i just took his comments less seriously than you did and from a different perspective. 

Side note: I know a guy that was a big gun guy. He accidentally shot himself in the foot in his car. I legitimately find that hilarious. Zero sympathy. I am actually happy it happened because who knows where that bullet could have hit if it didnt hit his foot first. 

Had he shot one of his friends or family or a stranger, different story of course. But as far as I am concerned that was the best possible outcome.

I think we can all relate to this a bit and it is relative. In my profession, it's hard for me to not smile a bit when somebody disparages his public defender, insists, he can do a better job representing himself, then basically proves his own guilt at trial. But, generally, I'm only laughing at the outcome if the outcome isn't that drastic. If the person is facing real prison time it's not funny any longer. 

Similarly, I suppose it would be somewhat funny if some idiot flipped off a traffic control office merely trying to direct the person to safety and the person damaged his expensive car or something. But, in @lod001 's post, he indicating he would laughed at entire cities and hoped they incurred despair. That's just sadistic.