Barring injury how can Addai not be the #2 RB this season ? (1 Viewer)

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

How has the guy jumped up from around #10 to #2 in the last few months when the only news lately is losing Tarik Glenn?

Although I do not think he is number 2 one of the main reasons is the lack of depth behind Addai. The back up tail back to Addai is Keith from the CFL. This means that Indy trusts Addai to get a lot of touches.Edited because Dorsey was cut.

Bet you $1 that Kenneth Keith will not be the primary backup as of this time next week.

I think just the fact that Kenton Keith has been in the system longer than whoever they pick up means he'll be the #2 next week. But that might be temporary, depending on who they get. I think Keith is a great story and he earned his spot. I think he could be a "take a breather for a series" kind of backup-- especially in an offense where they don't have to run if they don't want to.

 

[Wingnut]

A bit about Keith:

In the 2007 preseason, Keith had 12 carries for 64 yards with two catches for five yards. However, in four years with the Saskatchewan Roughriders of the CFL, Keith had 610 carries for 3,811 yards (6.2 yards per carry) with two 1,000-yard seasons and 21 rushing touchdowns ... and 19 fumbles. He also caught 126 passes for 1,178 yards (a 9.3 avg.) with eight receiving scores.

 

[shadyridr]

I drafted Addai 6th. I think he is a lock for a ton of yards but saying he is a lock for over 10 TDs is unreasonable. Who knows how often they will run on the goalline. As long as Peyton is there he will always be a threat to pass for TDs.

 

[Stingdiddy]

Think about it .

A. Best offense no question in the NFL

B. Rhodes gone should is unquestioned featured guy

C. Not sure who is going to catch more passes as Manning loves throwing to him ( for RB's )

D. Solid Line and will never see 8 men in box with those weapons in passing game.

E. Better D then people realize and showed in playoffs.

I honestly can't see less then a EDGE in his prime type season if not better - due to the fact Indy is better all around then when Edge played there.

328 carries 1680 yards ru 14 TD's 70 rec 680 yds rec 5 TD's

People taking Sjax , Gore and LJ ahead of this guy will really regret it IMO .

The Saints might beg to differ.

Saints can Beg all they like won't make it true

Then I'll beg to differ. Here's the numbers from last year (per NFL.com)Total Offense (YPG) Complete List

1. New Orleans Saints 391.5

2. Philadelphia Eagles 381.4

3. Indianapolis Colts 379.4

4. San Diego Chargers 365.0

5. Dallas Cowboys 360.8

Passing (YPG) Complete List

1. New Orleans Saints 281.4

2. Indianapolis Colts 269.2

3. Philadelphia Eagles 257.4

4. St. Louis Rams 247.6

5. Dallas Cowboys 239.8

Rushing (YPG) Complete List

1. Atlanta Falcons 183.7

2. San Diego Chargers 161.1

3. Jacksonville Jaguars 158.8

4. Washington Redskins 138.5

5. Tennessee Titans 138.4

 

[FreeBaGeL]

How can Addai NOT be the #2 RB next year? Well, let's count the ways.

The #2 RB last year put up 2334yds and 18 TDs. Edgerrin James NEVER eclipsed those totals in his entire career in Indy. You claim that their offense is better now than it was for Edge but I'm not quite sure where you're getting that. It's virtually the exact same offense except this year's offense loses it's mainstay pro-bowl left tackle. And even if they WERE significantly better (which they are not) that would be offset as I'm sure most would agree that Edge is a better RB than Addai.

How else? Addai and Rhodes COMBINED for 2100/13 last year. So even assuming he keeps his numbers up while now carrying the ball more (rarely happens) AND assuming no one else on Indy gets a single carry this season (obviously impossible) those numbers still fall short.

I'm a big Addai fan, I have been since his college days. But to claim there's no way he'll be anything less than the #2 back this year is a bit absurd.

 

[barndog]

The #2 RB last year put up 2334yds and 18 TDs. Edgerrin James NEVER eclipsed those totals in his entire career in Indy. You claim that their offense is better now than it was for Edge but I'm not quite sure where you're getting that. It's virtually the exact same offense except this year's offense loses it's mainstay pro-bowl left tackle. And even if they WERE significantly better (which they are not) that would be offset as I'm sure most would agree that Edge is a better RB than Addai.

Technically, the comparison to make is what the #3 put up. That's what he'd have to exceed.

 

[towney]

Maybe not #2 but I'd put him in the 3-5 range~still not bad...

 

[CalBear]

The #2 RB last year put up 2334yds and 18 TDs. Edgerrin James NEVER eclipsed those totals in his entire career in Indy. You claim that their offense is better now than it was for Edge but I'm not quite sure where you're getting that. It's virtually the exact same offense except this year's offense loses it's mainstay pro-bowl left tackle. And even if they WERE significantly better (which they are not) that would be offset as I'm sure most would agree that Edge is a better RB than Addai.

Technically, the comparison to make is what the #3 put up. That's what he'd have to exceed.

If there are still two people ahead of you, you're still in third place.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Think about it .

A. Best offense no question in the NFL

B. Rhodes gone should is unquestioned featured guy

C. Not sure who is going to catch more passes as Manning loves throwing to him ( for RB's )

D. Solid Line and will never see 8 men in box with those weapons in passing game.

E. Better D then people realize and showed in playoffs.

I honestly can't see less then a EDGE in his prime type season if not better - due to the fact Indy is better all around then when Edge played there.

328 carries 1680 yards ru 14 TD's 70 rec 680 yds rec 5 TD's

People taking Sjax , Gore and LJ ahead of this guy will really regret it IMO .

The Saints might beg to differ.

\never said he was better than LT

If any O can say they are better than Indy it is SD

I didn't say you said he was. I used him to represent the Chargers and their offense. Indy has one of the best, and possibly the best, but not the "no question" best.

The Chargers scored 65 more points than the Colts last year.

 

[Steeler07]

I dont know why anyone would think Addai will finish as the #2 RB, not as long as Peyton Manning is throwing the ball.

 

[Steeler07]

The #2 RB last year put up 2334yds and 18 TDs. Edgerrin James NEVER eclipsed those totals in his entire career in Indy. You claim that their offense is better now than it was for Edge but I'm not quite sure where you're getting that. It's virtually the exact same offense except this year's offense loses it's mainstay pro-bowl left tackle. And even if they WERE significantly better (which they are not) that would be offset as I'm sure most would agree that Edge is a better RB than Addai.

Technically, the comparison to make is what the #3 put up. That's what he'd have to exceed.

mmm no. If you put up better numbers than #3 you're the new #3

 

[Billy1x]

Peyton DOESN'T share the end zone with anybody. No way Adaii can get to number 2 with Manning as a QB.

 

[Assani Fisher]

The #2 RB last year put up 2334yds and 18 TDs. Edgerrin James NEVER eclipsed those totals in his entire career in Indy. You claim that their offense is better now than it was for Edge but I'm not quite sure where you're getting that. It's virtually the exact same offense except this year's offense loses it's mainstay pro-bowl left tackle. And even if they WERE significantly better (which they are not) that would be offset as I'm sure most would agree that Edge is a better RB than Addai.

Technically, the comparison to make is what the #3 put up. That's what he'd have to exceed.

If everyone except for him put up the same stats and he exceeded the #3, then wouldn't that just make him #3?

 

[SSOG]

Peyton DOESN'T share the end zone with anybody. No way Adaii can get to number 2 with Manning as a QB.

I suppose that Edgerrin James was just a genetically engineered being made from Manning's rib, then, so that when James scored double-digit TDs in 4 of his 5 healthy seasons in Indy, that wasn't an example of Manning sharing the end zone, right?

 

[switz]

Edge is a better RB than Addai, and hadn't finished better than #5 since 2000.

The #2 WR in Indy in 2000? Jerome Pathon.

Reggie Wayne arrived in 2001, and now there simply aren't enough balls to go around to make the Indy RB the #2 overall. Certainly not when the skillset is rather pedestrian, as Addai's seems to be.

Oh please... Addai's skillset is NOT pedestrian.He is better than any RB drafted this season aside from Peterson. He's better than any back drafted the year before him as well.

Frank Gore?

Wow. Forgot he was drafted in '05, for some reason was thinking it was '04. Dunno why.I was more thinking Brown, Benson, Williams, Arrington.

 

[switz]

I think a 5.1 YPC is a little high for a guy who is taking over primary RB responsibilities. Part of the reason he was at 4.8 in '06 was because he was fresh due to Rhodes carrying some of the weight. Coupled with Glenn retiring, I'm thinking 4.5 is a more reasonable projection. But 1450 yards is a reasonable expectation.The 5 receiving TD's though seem out of whack. Manning even with his agudy TD numbers never has really utilized his RB's in the goal line offense all that much. All in all though 2000 total yards is probably a more reasonable top end goal and 10-12 total TD's. His 5-6 ranking seems accurate.

Not entirely true... While I don't disagree that 5.1 YPC is too high, I do disagree with the notion that Rhodes "spelling" Addai had anything to do with his YPC. Addai's YPC was all over the map last year, with no correlation to how many carries Rhodes had. In week 8, Rhodes only had 3 carries, yet Addai averaged 5.5 YPC. Week 16 Rhodes had 2 carrries, and Addai had a whopping 6.7 YPC.On the other hand in week 9 Rhodes had 4 carries, and Addai had a horrible 2.4 YPC.His YPC had nothing to do with Rhodes "spelling" him.I expect about 4.5 - 4.7 YPC from Addai this season.

Woah, woah, WOAH... sample size down?First off, there are lurking variables in your statistics in that how "fresh" a player is doesn't just have to do with how many carries they got during that game, but also has to do with how many carries they got during the season. For instance, if a guy with 50 carries on the year toted the rock 30 times in week 15, then yes, I'd consider that an example of a guy with fresh legs facing a worn down defense.Secondly, if we want to get a decent sample size, we should compare the YPC of every RB who was in a committee in year N but was a Bell-cow in year N+1 to see if there's any merit to the idea that RBs who get lighter workloads generally see a reduction in ypc as their role increases. Randomly citing 3 games from Addai's season last year just doesn't do it for me.

I figured the fact he went off week 16 after having logged around 200 carries on the season was some evidence that the # of carries wasn't having a negative affect on him. Additionally, his second half YPC was higher than his first half YPC.However, as I highlighted, the games after his high-carry games were doozys.