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Bathroom remodel - how much should it cost? (1 Viewer)

Right. I based it off what a worker would get paid if you just hired him off the street in this market. Not including overhead, insurance, profit, etc.

So yeah, 17k for a bathroom that small is stupid.  One key for people looking to remodel is make sure to buy your own materials and pick them up. For two reasons:

1. You avoid markups.

2. You avoid a supply house putting a lien on your house because your contractor didn't pay his bill.
We got quoted basically that same amount for a small bathroom remodel here on Long Island.  It's pretty standard.  But you're right, when you do the math, it's a little crazy.  Has me thinking about doing a gut myself on a half bath in our house that I've always hated.  If I could do it for even $5k, that would rule.  

 
We got quoted basically that same amount for a small bathroom remodel here on Long Island.  It's pretty standard.  But you're right, when you do the math, it's a little crazy.  Has me thinking about doing a gut myself on a half bath in our house that I've always hated.  If I could do it for even $5k, that would rule.  
I think you could get the FFA to cover half of that just for the entertainment value.

 
We just got through doing three bathrooms.  New floors, cabinets, tubs, tile, fixtures, everything.  Each one was about $3K in labor to put all the stuff in.  The materials were on us.  You'll have product places all over the place...do the research and you can knock off a significant chunk of that bill.  If you got a quote from a tile store (like this place) you're going to pay a ton more in labor because that's not their primary business.

If it were me, I'd install the tub, vanities, fixtures myself, do all my own demo etc (those are simple things to do) and leave the tile work to a pro.

 
Oh...and if it were me, I'd do one vanity that held two sinks.  You won't need a plumber to dig into the walls and move plumbing around.  You can split at the source and keep it within the cabinet.  That will probably save you $1K or so.

 
Good stuff in here. Thanks for all the input. I'm fully aware I could save a ton doing it myself, but there's no way. I truly suck at that kind of stuff. But going cheaper (Lowe's, etc...) and buying all the materials myself -  ya, that's going to be the play. I don't see any reason why this can't be more in the $6k range, maybe up to $8k. But $17 thousand? Not a chance.

 
Good stuff in here. Thanks for all the input. I'm fully aware I could save a ton doing it myself, but there's no way. I truly suck at that kind of stuff. But going cheaper (Lowe's, etc...) and buying all the materials myself -  ya, that's going to be the play. I don't see any reason why this can't be more in the $6k range, maybe up to $8k. But $17 thousand? Not a chance.
Find good trade guys, be your own general contractor, buy your own materials and you should be able to get into the range you're looking.

 
Just redid my bathroom. 5' x 10' bathroom. Took it down to the studs, but I did leave the tub as it's in awesome shape and an old cast iron tub. Here is what I did:

Demo: Me. $25.00 for 30 pack of Bud Light.

Light Fixture: $125

Vanity and Top: $600 (bought a decent one at Lowe's)

Toilet: $400 (bought the one that can suck a child down the hole. almost lost my 6yo. luckily she is strong and pulled herself out.)

Flooring: $375. (included durarock, mortar, screws, and this tile. . looks awesome)

Sheetrock: $700. (I hung the sheetrock but had a guy tape and mud and knockdown texture the ceiling. He cost me $600 of the $700.)

Paint: $90.

Shower tile: $200 (did white subway tile with grey grout. looks cool)

Shower and sink fixtures: $250

Misc plumbing stuff: $100

Extra beer: $50

Wood trim: $100

Total Cost: $3015

I did all the work except the taping and mudding of the sheetrock. Bathroom looks great. I used to do this for a living, so I bought decent finishes, but everything was off the shelf from Lowe's. 

Tell the guy who bid you $17k to pound sand. Hell, I'll come do it for 17k.
:goodposting:  I don't remember all the numbers for when I redid my bathroom a few years back, but in this same range.  My walls were fine, and I did hire out the tile work.  But for that size bathroom, I was able to get high end tile at $1 per sq foot at a local non-profit where people donate overruns and extra materials.  

 
Find good trade guys, be your own general contractor, buy your own materials and you should be able to get into the range you're looking.
I think this is the best advice.  A GC is going to want to take a 15% cut or a daily rate to oversee.  You can pocket that right away and put the materials on your card saving the 15% and any cash back type credit card offers you can do.  Just expect the process to take 2x as long.

If you are lucky you can find a plumber you like and let him recommend a tile person.  They usually know a few.  

I still would bet ripping the entire room out is the play.  Come back with a 2 wall glass enclosure shower and new riser and overhead shower head.  Will increase resale value bigly over just resurfacing.  A resurface job you won't really ever see that money again.  What you need to figure out is whether the shower pan is salvagable.  A pan alone is going to be in the 1500 range to set if you have one that can't be re-used.

 
Just redid my bathroom. 5' x 10' bathroom. Took it down to the studs, but I did leave the tub as it's in awesome shape and an old cast iron tub. Here is what I did:

Demo: Me. $25.00 for 30 pack of Bud Light.

Light Fixture: $125

Vanity and Top: $600 (bought a decent one at Lowe's)

Toilet: $400 (bought the one that can suck a child down the hole. almost lost my 6yo. luckily she is strong and pulled herself out.)

Flooring: $375. (included durarock, mortar, screws, and this tile. . looks awesome)

Sheetrock: $700. (I hung the sheetrock but had a guy tape and mud and knockdown texture the ceiling. He cost me $600 of the $700.)

Paint: $90.

Shower tile: $200 (did white subway tile with grey grout. looks cool)

Shower and sink fixtures: $250

Misc plumbing stuff: $100

Extra beer: $50

Wood trim: $100

Total Cost: $3015

I did all the work except the taping and mudding of the sheetrock. Bathroom looks great. I used to do this for a living, so I bought decent finishes, but everything was off the shelf from Lowe's. 

Tell the guy who bid you $17k to pound sand. Hell, I'll come do it for 17k.
underlined and bolded the part that makes most people NOT tell the guy to pound sand.  If he used to do this for a living, would he be in here asking how much it should cost?

 
if you don't know what you're doing, and you decide to do it yourself, only multiply your guesstimate by 2, but multiply the timeframe by 5-6x.  You're going to get so frustrated you break ####...a lot of ####.

 
Just redid my bathroom. 5' x 10' bathroom. Took it down to the studs, but I did leave the tub as it's in awesome shape and an old cast iron tub. Here is what I did:

Demo: Me. $25.00 for 30 pack of Bud Light.

Light Fixture: $125

Vanity and Top: $600 (bought a decent one at Lowe's)

Toilet: $400 (bought the one that can suck a child down the hole. almost lost my 6yo. luckily she is strong and pulled herself out.)

Flooring: $375. (included durarock, mortar, screws, and this tile. . looks awesome)

Sheetrock: $700. (I hung the sheetrock but had a guy tape and mud and knockdown texture the ceiling. He cost me $600 of the $700.)

Paint: $90.

Shower tile: $200 (did white subway tile with grey grout. looks cool)

Shower and sink fixtures: $250

Misc plumbing stuff: $100

Extra beer: $50

Wood trim: $100

Total Cost: $3015

I did all the work except the taping and mudding of the sheetrock. Bathroom looks great. I used to do this for a living, so I bought decent finishes, but everything was off the shelf from Lowe's. 

Tell the guy who bid you $17k to pound sand. Hell, I'll come do it for 17k.
Would appreciate information of the make/model of that toilet.  Ours (both of them) are awful.  More than 4 sheets of toilet paper seem to clog the sum#####.

 
I read your original description and said $10K.  

Your main work:

-Demo: that is cheap and easy.  
-New tub: get something decent, cast iron.  I like Kohler.  This should be about $600-800
-Tiling: The tile itself might be $5/sqft.  Measure your floor plus walls, and multiply.  You will need bullnose tile as well, so add 10% to that number.  Finally, assume $1500 labor if you were to hire someone to tile it
-New toilet: $250
-New vanity: again, I wouldn't cheap out.  Don't get Lowes/Home Depot crap.  Spend double and get something solid wood.  Assume $1000 here.
-New plumbing fixtures: $250
-Lighting: $300 for vanity and recessed lighting fixtures
-Electrical: $500 to wire it all up
-Carpenter to install everything, attend to minor details such as wall patching, caulking, etc etc: $2500

I am likely missing a few things, but that should be the bulk of it.

As noted, the key is to keep the plumber off the payroll.  Buy the materials yourself, find a good carpenter that is willing to roll this in as side-work for himself, and you'll be in good shape.

 
Would appreciate information of the make/model of that toilet.  Ours (both of them) are awful.  More than 4 sheets of toilet paper seem to clog the sum#####.
I'd have to see if I kept the paper work, but it was the American Standard one that was about $400. When you flush this thing, it sounds like it sucks all the air outta the house with a sonic boom. Literally, if you leave a newspaper on the vanity right next to it, it sucks it down the toilet along with the shower curtain, small pets, and Otis' leftover potato peels. This thing is amazing. 

Never a double flush. Hell, if I double flushed my house might collapse due to the pressure.

 
I'd have to see if I kept the paper work, but it was the American Standard one that was about $400. When you flush this thing, it sounds like it sucks all the air outta the house with a sonic boom. Literally, if you leave a newspaper on the vanity right next to it, it sucks it down the toilet along with the shower curtain, small pets, and Otis' leftover potato peels. This thing is amazing. 

Never a double flush. Hell, if I double flushed my house might collapse due to the pressure.
Pretty sure it's the one I posted above ....23 golf balls

 
Just redid my bathroom. 5' x 10' bathroom. Took it down to the studs, but I did leave the tub as it's in awesome shape and an old cast iron tub. Here is what I did:

Demo: Me. $25.00 for 30 pack of Bud Light.

Light Fixture: $125

Vanity and Top: $600 (bought a decent one at Lowe's)

Toilet: $400 (bought the one that can suck a child down the hole. almost lost my 6yo. luckily she is strong and pulled herself out.)

Flooring: $375. (included durarock, mortar, screws, and this tile. . looks awesome)

Sheetrock: $700. (I hung the sheetrock but had a guy tape and mud and knockdown texture the ceiling. He cost me $600 of the $700.)

Paint: $90.

Shower tile: $200 (did white subway tile with grey grout. looks cool)

Shower and sink fixtures: $250

Misc plumbing stuff: $100

Extra beer: $50

Wood trim: $100

Total Cost: $3015

I did all the work except the taping and mudding of the sheetrock. Bathroom looks great. I used to do this for a living, so I bought decent finishes, but everything was off the shelf from Lowe's. 

Tell the guy who bid you $17k to pound sand. Hell, I'll come do it for 17k.
you got ripped off on that bud light...they are regularly $19 bucks here

 
I'd have to see if I kept the paper work, but it was the American Standard one that was about $400. When you flush this thing, it sounds like it sucks all the air outta the house with a sonic boom. Literally, if you leave a newspaper on the vanity right next to it, it sucks it down the toilet along with the shower curtain, small pets, and Otis' leftover potato peels. This thing is amazing. 

Never a double flush. Hell, if I double flushed my house might collapse due to the pressure.




 
Can you check the actual model on that?  I searched the internet and got an American Standard Champion 4 ...but it's like $199.  It shows the golf balls flush etc.  

 
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Can you check the actual model on that?  I searched the internet and got an American Standard Champion 4 ...but it's like $199.  It shows the golf balls flush etc.  
I saw the American Standard Champion 4 Max and the reviews I saw weren't great.

Link

 
re-did our main bathroom a couple years ago. totally gutted save the tub.

new floor, new vanity, new trim, paint, new toilet. 

all DIY. total cost probably came out 800 bucks? roughly same size as yours.

where the hell do people live that someone can charge 15k for this kind of work?  

 
Depends on the contractor. It varies widely. The Home Depot contractors were the worst. Quoted me at like $26k with a 10% discount if I agreed on the spot. Yeah right. He couldn't believe I said get out. I laughed at his always be closing approach. One contractor quoted me $7k, another $14k. It was all over the place. Do your research.

 
I have the champion 4 Max and freaking love it replaced an older toilet that always used to clog and I think I've had one clog the six years I installed it.

my daughter goes crazy I think with paper.

the other toilet that was mention it's $400 is the American Standard Self Cleaning

 
Big :thumbup: on buying your own materials if your contractor is OK with that.  We had a guy who did our basement who was fine with it, and we managed to source what he needed for 20-30% less than the prices he initially quoted.  They don't really bargain shop when they're doing the buying - time is money to them, and the money they're spending is yours!  I managed to get our bathroom fixtures for 1/2 what he quoted, and saved a ton on the shower enclosure and bar sink/counter too.  All he asked was that I make sure they're there when he needed to put them in.  Probably saved us ~$3K overall.  We of course promptly spent that on upgraded carpet, but whatever.

 
re-did our main bathroom a couple years ago. totally gutted save the tub.

new floor, new vanity, new trim, paint, new toilet. 

all DIY. total cost probably came out 800 bucks? roughly same size as yours.

where the hell do people live that someone can charge 15k for this kind of work?  
lol at $800.  Sink is a tupperware bowl on an old crate, toilet is a 5 gallon pail?  Paint was found out back.

 
lol at $800.  Sink is a tupperware bowl on an old crate, toilet is a 5 gallon pail?  Paint was found out back.
it's all name brand :shrug:   i don't have a Viking freezer and 14 person jacuzzi tub like you maybe. 

buy things that are on sale before you need them. instead of paying max for a brand new toilet because your wife said you had to remodel the bathroom RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE BABY IS BORN, buy one months ahead when you see a good deal.  crazy how much money you can save by planning ahead.

 
it's all name brand :shrug:   i don't have a Viking freezer and 14 person jacuzzi tub like you maybe. 

buy things that are on sale before you need them. instead of paying max for a brand new toilet because your wife said you had to remodel the bathroom RIGHT NOW BEFORE THE BABY IS BORN, buy one months ahead when you see a good deal.  crazy how much money you can save by planning ahead.
what did you use for countertops/backsplash?

 
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no backsplash

we have a vanity with built in sink. i'm not home so i couldn't say what the brand name is off the top of my head.
It's fine.  I'm looking into redoing our bathroom and I'm looking at ~12'x25" of countertops to replace (yes, 12 feet) with two sink cutouts at different heights.

 
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lol at $800.  Sink is a tupperware bowl on an old crate, toilet is a 5 gallon pail?  Paint was found out back.
You can buy the $39 faucet, the $200 vanity and sink, the $150 toilet, the 88 cent tile, the $150 shower base, and the $20 paint.  Most of that stuff is good enough.  Maybe on clearance/sale, you can stuff of pretty good quality in that range.  At everyday  prices, I would double most of those for fairly good stuff. 

 
You can buy the $39 faucet, the $200 vanity and sink, the $150 toilet, the 88 cent tile, the $150 shower base, and the $20 paint.  Most of that stuff is good enough.  Maybe on clearance/sale, you can stuff of pretty good quality in that range.  At everyday  prices, I would double most of those for fairly good stuff. 
even then, so you're total is 1600

guys are being quoted 12-15k here

that's... insane

 
even then, so you're total is 1600

guys are being quoted 12-15k here

that's... insane
there's no question that a HUGE majority of the quotes are LABOR and profit.  I am a DIYer myself, so I agree with you that the number seems insane, but only because I can do it.   Those that can't do, teach.  Those who can't teach, teach gym AND get raked by contractors.

 
Anyone do solid surface around tub/shower?  No grout lines (except for corner edges) and easy to clean.

 
not sure what you mean... slab at wall-surround rather than tiles?

if so, pretty much all I do for Master Baths. 
I've seen blasted glass and solid tile sections (1 per wall) surrounding a shower rather than individual standard tiles.  

 
I've seen blasted glass and solid tile sections (1 per wall) surrounding a shower rather than individual standard tiles.  
I still don't know what you mean by "solid tile sections". are you talking about a big slab of material instead of individual smaller tiles of the same material (of different material)?

 
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I prefer it. but definitely adds expense and technical expertise beyond typical DYIers. need to template the stone/material just right, cut it just right, and install it just right. do most DYIers out there have the capability to cut 2 or 3cm stone slabs and then hang them? I dunno- I'd be impressed if so.

some pics of both options...

slabs (nanno-glass & granite), tiles (ceramic and granite)

 
:thumbup:

I prefer it. but definitely adds expense and technical expertise beyond typical DYIers. need to template the stone/material just right, cut it just right, and install it just right. do most DYIers out there have the capability to cut 2 or 3cm stone slabs and then hang them? I dunno- I'd be impressed if so.

some pics of both options...

slabs (nanno-glass & granite), tiles (ceramic and granite)
Good stuff.  I was not implying this was something I was going to do, but I like the look/maintenance for the additional cost

 

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