bench ALL DAY. Do you? (1 Viewer)

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I never thought I'd be considering this. But with Childress driving this all world talent into the ground (play selection and limited carries), injuries to the vikes OL, and facing a tough Bengals D (kinda funny to even type that, but it's true) can I possibly be benching AP in the playoffs.

Arghhhhh

 

[cvnpoka]

im benching him for moreno and addai. not even really close.

 

[footballnerd]

Your Superbowl is WK14?

 

[vikingdave]

im benching him for moreno and addai. not even really close.

not even close...bwahahahahahaha...

 

[gnarboots11]

He is probably the most overrated player ever in the NFL. I saw a commercial the other day for an ALL DAY ADRIAN PETERSON HIGHLIGHT EXTREME DVD!!! What? Why? What has he ever done? Do you really think the great backs of yesteryear were running committee? He doesn't even get goal line carries anymore, they are passing to the TE instead, and when he does get em he gets stuffed the majority of the time. I have watched alot of him this year, and I am complete unimpressed. OVERRRRRRRRATED!

 

[gnarboots11]

O btw, im benching him for Lawrence Maroney!! HAHAH! LAWRENCE MARONEY!!!

 

[QuizGuy66]

So much in here the lines are getting tangled methinks

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

So much in here the lines are getting tangled methinks -QG

Just can't imagine benching him. Then again I will also say that it probably depends on the rules of your league. Chilly is an idiot, this is true, but there's no way I can sit him.-QG

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Im considering doing it for forte. And that hurts, b/c forte is very average.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Im considering doing it for forte. And that hurts, b/c forte is very average.

I have Forte and Maroney in one league and I have ADP in the other. The sentence immediately before this is the first time I've ever put them in the same sentence. I can't even conceptualize it.-QG

 

[PahtyTom]

I almost believed this thread was serious. Almost.

 

[basher]

People really have a short memory.

 

[Lascelle]

Im considering doing it for forte. And that hurts, b/c forte is very average.

You're insane. Forte offers no value the rest of the way. Let alone as an alternate for ALL DAY.You should dump Forte on the wire for Jerome Harrison.Or some magic beans.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

I wished i would have had the balls to bench his 12fp in ppr he got me last week in the 1st round of my fantasy playoffs.

I think i can sleep much better knowing atleast i went with my studs. I would probably go crazy had i tried to gamble on a lesser player and ended up with

the same ridiculous showing. Oh and BTW....im trading ADP this offseason. Chilly just doesnt use him right.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Im considering doing it for forte. And that hurts, b/c forte is very average.

You're insane. Forte offers no value the rest of the way. Let alone as an alternate for ALL DAY.You should dump Forte on the wire for Jerome Harrison.Or some magic beans.

stl louis sucks. so does childress. cin doesnt.haven't done it yet, and not sure if i can (thus the title of this thread)

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

 

[southeastjerome]

 

[southeastjerome]

Thinking of possibly benching him for Addai.

 

[harryhood]

O btw, im benching him for Lawrence Maroney!! HAHAH! LAWRENCE MARONEY!!!

for Monday morning.

 

[Traders2001]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Must be kidding...

 

[BassNBrew]

Step 1) Hey, look at me!!!

Step 2) Annouce that you decided to bench said stud.

Step 3) Said stud blows up.

Step 4) On Monday come back and post that you had a change of heart at kickoff and starter the stub.

 

[Hang 10]

People act like benching Peterson is unheard of. This is the playoffs and if you think you've got a better option, go with it. AD hasn't had a good game since week 10.

 

[zamboni]

Pretty funny that people are calling Childress an idiot because their stud RB is underperforming. Last time I checked, the team was 10-2.

Maybe AP is banged up a bit, or maybe Favre has been so effective that Childress has no problem (unlike with Tavaris Jackson) of having Favre spread the field at the stripe with so many good receiving options.

But continue on with obfuscating NFL reality with FF...

 

[FUBAR]

I'm not even sure I can bench him in the Best Buy league.

 

[Big Petey]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Yeah, they mentioned this on Mike and Mike. Regardless of McKinnie's tipping, it was still easy to tell what they were going to do. In addition, Chester Taylor is getting a much heavier workload now.

Chester is NOT getting a heavier workload. He's getting the same amount of carries he's been getting all season.Now, he may be in for more plays because there are more 3rd downs, but he's not taking carries from Peterson. The drop off for Peterson is due to the fact that the Vikings have become a pass-first offense.............especially in the redzone and goalline situations.And, defenses don't really have to rely on offensive lineman "tipping" run plays. Any football fan can sit in front of their TV and see which plays ther Vikings are going to pass and which are going to be runs. The running plays from the Arizona game were pretty much long stretch plays, where Farve has to get way out over the tackle, with Peterson taking 5-6 steps before getting the ball. Defenders were simply standing there waiting for Peterson to get the ball.Peterson's inaffectiveness is due to Favre and the play calling................NOT Chester Taylor.

 

[psychobillies]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Yeah. They can either bench him, or tell him to stop doing it.

 

[gianmarco]

These threads never end well.

That being said, I don't mind if that's the case as an AP owner

 

[rsanford]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Must be kidding...

Nope, Tony Boselli was talking about it as well. He said McKinnie's right leg was farther back for pass plays than for run plays.

This actually wouldn't be the first time for the Vikings. I recall some time in the last 6-7 years where one of our guards (may have been Mckinnie then) was called for 2 penalties in a single game for not being close enough to the LOS. After the game, someone on the opposing team commented (presumably because the cat was out of the bag) that keying off that players position in relation to the LOS was part of their game planning.Any other Viking homers here remember this?

 

[Raiderfan32904]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/...omed-minnesota/

 

[Keepers]

If Kevin Smith had a better matchup would consider not playing ADP. But on the positive side, ADP was a little more involved in the passing game against Zona, probably because they were playing from behind but if Jacobs can break one for 75 yards on quick pass there has to be some hope for ADP.

 

[Menace]

Thinking of benching ADP for Mendy but the last time I benced ADP was that huge game against Chi a couple years ago and that ruined my season

 

[Oh Yes!]

playoff bye week playa!

 

[Big Petey]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Yeah, they mentioned this on Mike and Mike. Regardless of McKinnie's tipping, it was still easy to tell what they were going to do. In addition, Chester Taylor is getting a much heavier workload now.

Chester is NOT getting a heavier workload. He's getting the same amount of carries he's been getting all season.Now, he may be in for more plays because there are more 3rd downs, but he's not taking carries from Peterson. The drop off for Peterson is due to the fact that the Vikings have become a pass-first offense.............especially in the redzone and goalline situations.And, defenses don't really have to rely on offensive lineman "tipping" run plays. Any football fan can sit in front of their TV and see which plays ther Vikings are going to pass and which are going to be runs. The running plays from the Arizona game were pretty much long stretch plays, where Farve has to get way out over the tackle, with Peterson taking 5-6 steps before getting the ball. Defenders were simply standing there waiting for Peterson to get the ball.Peterson's inaffectiveness is due to Favre and the play calling................NOT Chester Taylor.

You haven't been watching many Vikings games if you believe Taylor isn't getting a heavier workload. Taylor is now in on 1st downs more often than in the past. There are entire drives where Peterson doesn't see the field save for maybe one play.And yes, having an offensive lineman tip plays helps even if they already have some idea what the Vikings are going to do.

What differnce does it make if Taylor is in there but not getting carries? Are you saying you'd rather see Peterson standing back there watching Favre throw?Workload to me means carries (and receptions). Chester's carries have been consistant all season, averaging around 6/game.........he's actually been BELOW that number the past two weeks.Peterson actually got some third down plays and 7 targets this week, compared to Taylor's 4, which is a reversal from last week.So, I don't know the number of plays each has been on the field, but neither the rushing or receiving stats show Taylor getting a "heavier workload".The RB roles are pretty much the same. The difference is Favre.Favre has 403 pass attempts this season through 12 games. The Vikings had 452 all season last year.

 

[gethugefast1]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Must be kidding...

Nope, Tony Boselli was talking about it as well. He said McKinnie's right leg was farther back for pass plays than for run plays.

Reminds me of the movie "Invinceible"...What color are my knuckles?

 

[el-gato-grande]

I've found being an ADP owner is frustrating. Everybody says he is a stud and he is based on the stats he accumulates every year. But, I'm not 100% happy with him and I haven't been able to put my finger on it until now.

Look at his game logs at the end of last year and the last three games of this year. In 2008, he had decent yardage but only one TD in the month of December when most fantasy teams were fighting to get into the playoffs or competing in the playoffs. It feels like he's pulling the same act this year. He's never had a consistent late season surge like DWill had last year or CJ is having this year where he single handed has put teams over the top.

 

[gethugefast1]

Thinking of benching ADP for Mendy but the last time I benced ADP was that huge game against Chi a couple years ago and that ruined my season

Peterson was a much better player two years ago. He isn't the same this year. He rarely breaks a big one because defensive backs can catch up to him easily now.

Maybe the added 15 lbs this off-season?

 

[AcerFC]

I cant do it. I will lose in the first round of playoffs and sleep better knowing I started him over J Charles, Benson and Gore

Now I just have to decide what to do with my other RB spot

 

[Big Petey]

Thinking of benching ADP for Mendy but the last time I benced ADP was that huge game against Chi a couple years ago and that ruined my season

Peterson was a much better player two years ago. He isn't the same this year. He rarely breaks a big one because defensive backs can catch up to him easily now.

Maybe the added 15 lbs this off-season?

Maybe so, but that also might be what's keeping him healthly all year (knock on wood).Right now, in my league's scoring, he's averaging more fantasy points/game this season, compared to his first two, due to the fact that's he's played in every one.

 

[gethugefast1]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Must be kidding...

Nope, Tony Boselli was talking about it as well. He said McKinnie's right leg was farther back for pass plays than for run plays.

Reminds me of the movie "Invinceible"...What color are my knuckles?

Does McKinnie line up differently on running plays when Taylor gets the carries, or just ADP?...LOLADP 13/19 = 1.4 yards per carryTaylor 5/21 = 4.2

 

[loose circuits]

No Peko for the Bengals makes the match up a lot better

 

[Big Petey]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Must be kidding...

Nope, Tony Boselli was talking about it as well. He said McKinnie's right leg was farther back for pass plays than for run plays.

Reminds me of the movie "Invinceible"...What color are my knuckles?

Does McKinnie line up differently on running plays when Taylor gets the carries, or just ADP?...LOLADP 13/19 = 1.4 yards per carryTaylor 5/21 = 4.2

This is the one area where I think Chester hurts Peterson. Not so much the ypc, but more so because Chester will get those "cheap" yards where he gets a draw play on 3rd-and-27 and picks up 16 yards. If Peterson were out there for these type of carries, plus the dump offs during the two-minute offense, his numbers would resemble CJ more.

 

[packersfan]

Im considering doing it for forte. And that hurts, b/c forte is very average.

Even in a PPR league this would be highly suspect in my opinion. Forte has been awful this season, the Bears' offense is pathetic right now and Green Bay's strength defensively is against the run. I'd be very surprised if the Bears did much of anything against the Packers - and I'm not being a homer here either. Chicago's offense is absolutely awful. Only 17 points against the Rams speaks volumes about how far their offense has sunk. Cutler is pathetic and the Packers should be able to load up and stop Forte with ease. No way I'd sit Peterson for Forte if I had that decision.

 

[Chaka]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

 

[dmac37]

Not sure about this week but I think AD blows up in week's 15 & 16.

Defenses have still been keyed on AD, with Favre killing it defenses will need to start paying more attention to the passing game. The Vikings should look to tune up their running game before the playoffs start, I think AD will blow up and make a lot of owners happy during the FF playoffs.

Vikings schedule:

Week 15 Panthers 26th vs the run

Week 16 Bears 24th vs the run

 

[packersfan]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

Pretty sure that touchdown counted in fantasy leagues.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I cant do it. I will lose in the first round of playoffs and sleep better knowing I started him over J Charles, Benson and GoreNow I just have to decide what to do with my other RB spot

Im considering doing it for forte. And that hurts, b/c forte is very average.

Even in a PPR league this would be highly suspect in my opinion. Forte has been awful this season, the Bears' offense is pathetic right now and Green Bay's strength defensively is against the run. I'd be very surprised if the Bears did much of anything against the Packers - and I'm not being a homer here either. Chicago's offense is absolutely awful. Only 17 points against the Rams speaks volumes about how far their offense has sunk. Cutler is pathetic and the Packers should be able to load up and stop Forte with ease. No way I'd sit Peterson for Forte if I had that decision.

This is why it's tough, but I might be leaning to No. But If I had the above options it would be a much tougher decision.Who would've thought that it *might be a smarter play to play Benson vs Minn D over Peterson vs Cinci D. This is a ####### crazy game.And LOL that we have a board of men, governed by those who feel that the expression "have the balls to" is "inappropriate" for us, but can LITERALLY fly in a rated G/PG movie. In a society where the average 12 year old uses the words #### ### and #### more than almost any other, and me thinks that is ####### stoopid.

 

[Chaka]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

No I am saying that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane.I thought I was abundantly clear about that.

 

[Chaka]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

No I am saying that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane.I thought I was abundantly clear about that.

I'm trying to understand how it relates to the current situation. He's been on the injury report lately. He's not healthy. Your statement simply does not relate. If you are claiming is he healthy, then you further refute your argument as he hasn't been producing anyway. Back the drawing board for you, sir.

Yeesh. Where did I say that Peterson was not on the injury report? Are we now benching one of the best RBs in the league when he has a 'probable' designation on the injury report? The designation of 'probable' means that the player is a virtual certainty to play (75% chance or greater of playing, which does not mean he is only 75% healthy). If you want to take the word healthy to such an extreme then you should bench every player in the NFL because no one is 100% healthy.Let me revise to satisfy your penchant for semantics "If Adrian Peterson is playing in the game then benching him is insane."Satisfied?

 

[ratbast]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

No I am saying that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane.I thought I was abundantly clear about that.

yupHow can anyone really bench ADP?Do you own ADP, CJ and MJD?I might consider playing Taylor though if I needed an emergency start.

 

[gianmarco]

Thinking of benching ADP for Mendy but the last time I benced ADP was that huge game against Chi a couple years ago and that ruined my season

Peterson was a much better player two years ago. He isn't the same this year. He rarely breaks a big one because defensive backs can catch up to him easily now.

Maybe the added 15 lbs this off-season?

That was just speculation and talk of what he WANTED to do, IIRC. I don't think he added anything close to that.