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[Hang 10]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

No I am saying that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane.I thought I was abundantly clear about that.

yupHow can anyone really bench ADP?Do you own ADP, CJ and MJD?I might consider playing Taylor though if I needed an emergency start.

Because they've got a RB that might actually live up to expectations?

 

[Chaka]

Not satisfied at all. For one, he has been questionable, not probable. In some cases, he's been a game time decision. So, you fail in that aspect. And even if you continue to stand by your faulty logic, you fail to address his inability to live up to expectations as of late. There is no insanity in benching a RB given those circumstances should you have a clearly better option.

http://www.nfl.com/injuries?week=13 (65 yards on 19 touches)http://www.nfl.com/injuries?week=12 (103 yards 1 TD on 27 touches)

http://www.nfl.com/injuries?week=11 (98 yards on 28 touches)

Week 10 (when he hurt his ankle) (143 yards 2 TDs on 20 touches)

2 probables and 1 questionable (due to ankle/illness), and no mention of him being a GTD over the last 28 days according to MFLs news feed compiler.

He had one bad game, there are not many better options that are "clearly better" in the league and it is rare that people will have two better options on their roster. If you have MJD and Chris Johnson then run with and no one will question you.

If not and you bench him then godspeed to you.

 

[ratbast]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

No I am saying that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane.I thought I was abundantly clear about that.

yupHow can anyone really bench ADP?Do you own ADP, CJ and MJD?I might consider playing Taylor though if I needed an emergency start.

Because they've got a RB that might actually live up to expectations?

Even if I lowered my expectations for his floor he still has the ability to win my game all by his lonesome. There is absolutely no way I bench the guy in a start 2.

 

[Hang 10]

Because they've got a RB that might actually live up to expectations?

Even if I lowered my expectations for his floor he still has the ability to win my game all by his lonesome. There is absolutely no way I bench the guy in a start 2.

The hype of Peterson is way out of hand. His floor is 13 carries for 19 yards. And other than week one against an atrocious defense, he hasn't won anyone's game all by himself.Peterson is not Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk or LT2 in their primes. He never was...

 

[QuizGuy66]

Pretty funny that people are calling Childress an idiot because their stud RB is underperforming. Last time I checked, the team was 10-2. Maybe AP is banged up a bit, or maybe Favre has been so effective that Childress has no problem (unlike with Tavaris Jackson) of having Favre spread the field at the stripe with so many good receiving options.But continue on with obfuscating NFL reality with FF...

You can't deny that Childress is the worst coach of a 10-2 team in the league right now -QG

 

[Sabertooth]

Not sure about this week but I think AD blows up in week's 15 & 16.Defenses have still been keyed on AD, with Favre killing it defenses will need to start paying more attention to the passing game. The Vikings should look to tune up their running game before the playoffs start, I think AD will blow up and make a lot of owners happy during the FF playoffs. Vikings schedule:Week 15 Panthers 26th vs the runWeek 16 Bears 24th vs the run

What happens if Favre slumps like he has done annually for several seasons now?

 

[ratbast]

Because they've got a RB that might actually live up to expectations?

Even if I lowered my expectations for his floor he still has the ability to win my game all by his lonesome. There is absolutely no way I bench the guy in a start 2.

The hype of Peterson is way out of hand. His floor is 13 carries for 19 yards. And other than week one against an atrocious defense, he hasn't won anyone's game all by himself.Peterson is not Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk or LT2 in their primes. He never was...

He's top 3 in every league this year and he has record breaking games under his belt. 12 TDs and counting. The "hype" isn't really hype it's more like fact.Hook, line and sinker. Joke is on me.

 

[Chaka]

Not satisfied at all. For one, he has been questionable, not probable. In some cases, he's been a game time decision. So, you fail in that aspect. And even if you continue to stand by your faulty logic, you fail to address his inability to live up to expectations as of late. There is no insanity in benching a RB given those circumstances should you have a clearly better option.

http://www.nfl.com/injuries?week=13 (65 yards on 19 touches)http://www.nfl.com/injuries?week=12 (103 yards 1 TD on 27 touches)

http://www.nfl.com/injuries?week=11 (98 yards on 28 touches)

Week 10 (when he hurt his ankle) (143 yards 2 TDs on 20 touches)

2 probables and 1 questionable (due to ankle/illness), and no mention of him being a GTD over the last 28 days according to MFLs news feed compiler.

He had one bad game, there are not many better options that are "clearly better" in the league and it is rare that people will have two better options on their roster. If you have MJD and Chris Johnson then run with and no one will question you.

If not and you bench him then godspeed to you.

If you look at trends, you'll see that both is YPC and TDs are dropping off the face of the map. He's had a total of 3 100 yard games this year. While he has TDs, only one in the past three weeks. The guy is simply not producing. If it was just a game here and there, you'd have a point. He's showing a trend where he's unable to produce.If you are looking at RB production, you can't really count TDs. There have been many goalline backs with high TDs and nothing else to speak of. We all know that TDs are a matter of circumstance and not necessarily the skill of the individual producing them. The best way to quantify a RB's output is YPC and number of touches. His touches are generally at or above average. His production based on those touches is far below what we would come to expect from an elite RB like Peterson.

You take out his TDs, not to mention he's rarely getting consideration to score them anymore, he's more than benchable this week. Heck, the only TD he got the past three weeks was in garbage time when he shouldn't have been out there in the first place. Two of his top three games were against two of the worst run defenses in the game. He has no produced, save for the Baltimore game, against any top 10 run defenses. Cincinnati is a top 10 run defense. Statistically speaking, if you have better options, you are better off going with them than hoping Peterson finally decides to start taking his head out of his ### and running the damn ball.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=510001

 

[Hang 10]

Because they've got a RB that might actually live up to expectations?

Even if I lowered my expectations for his floor he still has the ability to win my game all by his lonesome. There is absolutely no way I bench the guy in a start 2.

The hype of Peterson is way out of hand. His floor is 13 carries for 19 yards. And other than week one against an atrocious defense, he hasn't won anyone's game all by himself.Peterson is not Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk or LT2 in their primes. He never was...

He's top 3 in every league this year and he has record breaking games under his belt. 12 TDs and counting. The "hype" isn't really hype it's more like fact.Hook, line and sinker. Joke is on me.

He's 4th in my league. :dunno: Also, his hype isn't being a top 5 RB, which he is, it's being the best RB/player in the NFL...which he's not. He's got like half the stats of Jamal Charles over last 5 weeks. If that doesn't say it all...

 

[ratbast]

Because they've got a RB that might actually live up to expectations?

Even if I lowered my expectations for his floor he still has the ability to win my game all by his lonesome. There is absolutely no way I bench the guy in a start 2.

The hype of Peterson is way out of hand. His floor is 13 carries for 19 yards. And other than week one against an atrocious defense, he hasn't won anyone's game all by himself.Peterson is not Priest Holmes, Marshall Faulk or LT2 in their primes. He never was...

He's top 3 in every league this year and he has record breaking games under his belt. 12 TDs and counting. The "hype" isn't really hype it's more like fact.Hook, line and sinker. Joke is on me.

He's 4th in my league. :dunno: Also, his hype isn't being a top 5 RB, which he is, it's being the best RB/player in the NFL...which he's not. He's got like half the stats of Jamal Charles over last 5 weeks. If that doesn't say it all...

How many points did CJ have in the 1st 6 games of the season? You can't try and predict the future without looking beyond recent tendencies. Last week was not his fault at all. If you want a reason to bench him and you focus on Favre/Childress, well that I can understand a little, but I think the anti-hype on ADP himself is crazy.

 

[Hang 10]

How many points did CJ have in the 1st 6 games of the season? You can't try and predict the future without looking beyond recent tendencies. Last week was not his fault at all. If you want a reason to bench him and you focus on Favre/Childress, well that I can understand a little, but I think the anti-hype on ADP himself is crazy.

The anti-hype comes from the notion that people must be mentally unstable to start someone over Peterson. That's all I'm saying. Most don't have better options but some do.

 

[Chaka]

Cop out. Nice knowing you.

Once you start playing the "If you take away X from his stats" game you are well on your way down the overanalysis path.But if you want to play that game YPC is as variable as any other number and if you use that I will counter with the fact that he scores TDs in 3 out of 4 games (averaging 1 TD/game).Lets stick with your belief in touches as an objective measure. I will not argue against that metric because all you can ask from any player is that they get the opportunity to produce and Peterson gets 23 opportunities to produce per game on the year (25 over the past 3).If you have two options on your roster that are getting more than 23-25 opportunities to produce per game then by all means use them otherwise you are overanalyzing the situation.

 

[domvin]

No Peko for the Bengals makes the match up a lot better

bengals will be behind all game long

 

[ratbast]

If the Chief's give you enough confidence to start Charles over ADP all the power to ya.

I seriously am about 5+ years away from benching a healthy ADP.

 

[John 14:6]

Haven't finished page 2 yet, but I was considering benching ADP for my 1st round game. We can start 2 RB and 2 WR or 1 RB and 3 WR. I have ADP, Benson, Maroney at RB and Austin, Boldin, and VJax at WR. Maroney's pretty much out of the equation IMO, which is a shame because I was very pleased with his output while he was getting the carries these last few weeks.

I've decided to bench Jackson, who I had been starting ever since I traded for him, because of his recent skid. I wouldn't be surprised if he blew up now that the Chargers have a tougher opponent and may need him, but I think he's the least safest play.

 

[Menace]

I did it. I just benched ADP for Mendy. Feel free to start ADP in your league now as he will probably go off for 150yrds and 3tds.

 

[Big Petey]

My personal situation is simple. Charles faces an easy Buffalo defense. Mendenhall faces another very easy matchup. Both backs have proven quite proficient in accumulating fantasy points as of late. Peterson, while a great back, is essentially on par with these two backs in the past 4 weeks. Given that fact, the logical conclusion is to start those players which show the most promise to help my team win. Why should I give into my emotions and decide to start Peterson simply because people think he's great and it would be crazy to bench him? Starting any player on emotional reaction is folly.

Starting him on emotion? Really?How about because he's a Top-5 RB in pretty much any scoring system??

 

[Chaka]

I did it. I just benched ADP for Mendy. Feel free to start ADP in your league now as he will probably go off for 150yrds and 3tds.

Don't say that, man. Just benched ADP for Charles again. I just see Charles with more upside this week...

I can see the argument for starting both of these guys: 20 touches, weak opponents, AP missing practice Wednesday (although no one this side of Chris Johnson has more upside than AP).It's still a bold move any you cut it, I hope it pays off for you.

 

[urbanhack]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Yeah, they mentioned this on Mike and Mike. Regardless of McKinnie's tipping, it was still easy to tell what they were going to do. In addition, Chester Taylor is getting a much heavier workload now.

Chester is NOT getting a heavier workload. He's getting the same amount of carries he's been getting all season.Now, he may be in for more plays because there are more 3rd downs, but he's not taking carries from Peterson.

No...he is. This point alone should be enough to consider benching him at this point and time. What other top 3 or 5 back is being benched on EVERY third down? It's ridiculous.I'm seriously considering J. Charles over him. Sorry...I want my top running backs playing all 3 downs.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Really? So are you saying that Peterson has been injured the last 3 weeks which is why his output has been frustratingly low? Did you notice what a "healthy" Peterson did against Arizona last week? The only thing that saved his fantasy stats two weeks ago was a garbage TD.

68 total yards, 0 TDs280 total yards, 3 TDs (against a bottom 10 run D)105 yards, 0 TDs94 yards, 0 TDs43 yards, 0 TDsThat is a five week stretch earlier in the season, from Chris Jonson.Further...73 yards, 0 TDs137 yards, 0 TDs40 yards, 1 TD57 yards, 0 TDsThat is a four week stretch earlier in the season, from Maurice Jones Drew.Neither of those compare that badly to Peterson's last 3-4 weeks. The problem here is that people live in some fantasy land where elite running backs go for 150 yards and 2 touchdowns every week. Newsflash people, most years even the elite running backs come nowhere near that kind of elite production that consistently. And when they do, records get broken.Johnson and Jones-Drew both bounced back from those bad stretches to return to top 3 fantasy backs, what reason is there that Peterson can't do the same? If you're so disappointed that you find Peterson unplayable after a few weeks where he didn't score 30 points for you, who exactly ARE you starting at running back? Because there's absolutely no one out there that's done what you ask.And FWIW, in his rookie year Peterson had a game where he went for 3 yards on 14 carries. He followed it up with 100 yards and 2 TDs the next week.Bench him at your own peril.

 

[Big Petey]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Yeah, they mentioned this on Mike and Mike. Regardless of McKinnie's tipping, it was still easy to tell what they were going to do. In addition, Chester Taylor is getting a much heavier workload now.

Chester is NOT getting a heavier workload. He's getting the same amount of carries he's been getting all season.Now, he may be in for more plays because there are more 3rd downs, but he's not taking carries from Peterson.

No...he is. This point alone should be enough to consider benching him at this point and time. What other top 3 or 5 back is being benched on EVERY third down? It's ridiculous.I'm seriously considering J. Charles over him. Sorry...I want my top running backs playing all 3 downs.

Week 13ADP 13 carries for 19 yards/ 6 rec. for 46 yardsCT 5 carries for 21 yards/ 4 rec. for 28 yardsPeterson had the most receptions in any game of his CAREER. So, as much as you want to argue Taylor is "stealing carries" from Peterson, you can argue ADP is "stealing" receptions from Taylor.It's a one-week anomaly. The team rushed for 40 total yards.Peterson has put up his stats with Chester playing most 3rd downs FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS. His low point total the last few weeks has NOTHING to do with Chester Taylor.What's ridiculous is that a Top-5 RB doesn't get carries in the red zone.

 

[Da Guru]

I heard on ESPN that there was a mention that Minnesota offensive tackle Bryant McKinnie was giving away signals to the Arizona Cardinals offensive scheme. It was said that he lined up in a consistent stance for run plays and different stance for pass plays. The Cards just had to read his stance to learn if it was a run play. No way are the Arizona Cardinals that good at containing Adrian Peterson. As an ADP owner, I am concerned that this will be a trend. They need to bench McKinnie. He's tipping off run plays.

Yeah, they mentioned this on Mike and Mike. Regardless of McKinnie's tipping, it was still easy to tell what they were going to do. In addition, Chester Taylor is getting a much heavier workload now.

Chester is NOT getting a heavier workload. He's getting the same amount of carries he's been getting all season.Now, he may be in for more plays because there are more 3rd downs, but he's not taking carries from Peterson.

No...he is. This point alone should be enough to consider benching him at this point and time. What other top 3 or 5 back is being benched on EVERY third down? It's ridiculous.I'm seriously considering J. Charles over him. Sorry...I want my top running backs playing all 3 downs.

Chet is a much better receiver out of the backfield, plus he is playing very well right now. I have ADP in one league and I am not asking for much. I would be giddy with 100 and a TD.

 

[Big Petey]

Another interesting stat from this past week, was the pass/run ratio on 1st down: Pass=21 Run=10

2nd down wasn't much better: Pass=14 Run=6

Now, obviously you can argue that they needed to throw due to the running game being ineffective, but was it really given a chance??

This was a two-posession game up until the 5:10 mark of the 3rd quarter.

 

[Brother Mouzone]

@FreeBaGel

Without regurgitating too much of the previous posts I will say I really hope I run into one of these guys who are sitting AP during my playoff run.

No one has posted scoring systems so I'm not going to go into how ridiculous it is that some of you have players like AP, Gore, Addai, Mendy etc. to chose from.

I will say that if you are always expecting your season to turn out identical to your draft you don't know fantasy football. IMO when a first round pick produces Top 12 numbers you have to be at least satisfied.

oh good posts to Chaka all thread

 

[Chaka]

Chet is a much better receiver out of the backfield, plus he is playing very well right now. I have ADP in one league and I am not asking for much. I would be giddy with 100 and a TD.

I would be utterly shocked if Peterson ended up with 100 rushing yards and a TD. He's only been over 100 yards 3 times this year so it would be quite a feat.

Yes but for the sake of total disclosure you should also point out that he has been over 100 total yards 7 times (and just missed twice) and scored in 8 of 12 games.

 

[JoeTall]

I feel confident that the game the old man had last week will not be the last one in Dec. Yes, I'm talking about a December Farve breakdown and that being said, time to lean on the running game a bit more. (esp if they get leads and sit out the old man for the 4th quarter)

 

[Brother Mouzone]

@FreeBaGel Without regurgitating too much of the previous posts I will say I really hope I run into one of these guys who are sitting AP during my playoff run. No one has posted scoring systems so I'm not going to go into how ridiculous it is that some of you have players like AP, Gore, Addai, Mendy etc. to chose from. I will say that if you are always expecting your season to turn out identical to your draft you don't know fantasy football. IMO when a first round pick produces Top 12 numbers you have to be at least satisfied. oh good posts to Chaka all thread

Anyone who sits Peterson after this week's game is an idiot. Also, kudos to piling on! You rock, man. You add nothing substantial to this thread save for garnering emotional response towards starting Peterson.

 

[armyeric]

I can understand everyone being somewhat down on ADP but you have to understand that every player no matter what position goes through a slump. That is more so when you are a top 5 RB Defenses seem to pay more attention to you. I know it's wierd but thats how it works. I think until defenses starting focusing on Farve ADP's numbers will be lower than normal. But if you think about it and Farve does what he normally does down the home stretch why would you focus on him.

If you drafted right you should have enough top notch players on your roster to fill in for when one of your studs has a bad game. I know I have enough people to cover it. Am I happy no but nothing you can do about it. NFL teams don't care about are leagues only what is good for there team and right now its Farve and the Recievers, you can't blam them they are 10-2.

And in my standard scoring league I am 11-2 and ADP has contributed 223 pts which accounts for roughly 15% of my points on the year. I don't know about you but I think that is decent. I also have the number one seed locked up and the game this week is a garbage game don't have to win could lose and not matter. And I am starting ADP no matter what I haven't benched him yet and never will. You don't bench your studs there is a reason why you picked them first. And I do hope he blows up this weekend and I also hope Benson does against the D because I am playing both.

I think to many people want to jump on the band wagon when things are good but then want to cry when things dont go good for a bit. Much like all the new fans that the Saints and Colt's have for there records. And with that note the Bengals to.

Ride the Storm and you will prosper in the end. How stupid would you feel if you didn't start him and he went off for a mediocre RB who got little to nothing.

Just my opinion.

 

[encaitar]

Last week was a perfect storm of sorts against ADP. First both of his starting tackles get hurt early in the game(they came back, but obviously playing hurt). Then McKinnie is tipping plays and Arizona takes advantage of it. Finally, the Vikings fell behind and had to abandon the running game. Arizona was a good run D to begin with and just had everything go their way in that game.

EdwardCat is probably the biggest hater I've ever seen wrt one player. If AP doesn't have 100 yards by halftime he's #####ing in every game thread. Look, you can make all the decisions and crazy lineup moves you want, but it would take an above average day from a player like Charles and a below average day from AP in order for a plan like that to work out. It seems like a lot to gamble on in my mind despite how good or bad the defenses are that they are facing.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone pointed out that benching a healthy Adrian Peterson is insane?

Yes, yes, EVERYONE is "insane" this time of year.Food for thought. in my league (ppr-lite/.5rbs/1.0 everyone else) when filtering for RB/WR/TE's Dodd's has AP at 31, and Bloom has him at 18.Then again they had Mendy at 21 ands 17 as well...

 

[Menace]

 

[Chaka]

Last week was a perfect storm of sorts against ADP. First both of his starting tackles get hurt early in the game(they came back, but obviously playing hurt). Then McKinnie is tipping plays and Arizona takes advantage of it. Finally, the Vikings fell behind and had to abandon the running game. Arizona was a good run D to begin with and just had everything go their way in that game. EdwardCat is probably the biggest hater I've ever seen wrt one player. If AP doesn't have 100 yards by halftime he's #####ing in every game thread. Look, you can make all the decisions and crazy lineup moves you want, but it would take an above average day from a player like Charles and a below average day from AP in order for a plan like that to work out. It seems like a lot to gamble on in my mind despite how good or bad the defenses are that they are facing.

Wow, overreact much? I've never said I hated Peterson nor do I engage in the absurd activity you claim. Get your own house in order. In fact, I'm not, as you so eloquently put, hating in this thread. I'm using clear statistical evidence for why Peterson isn't a good start this week. Statistically, Mendenhall looked like a great option over Peterson. No one knew his offensive line would simply forget how to play the game of football. (In fact, Mendenhall managed a fair number of yards despite his pathetic offensive line.)In addition, no, Arizona isn't a good run defense. Johnson lit them up.Back to the drawing board for you, sir.

Define "clear statistical evidence" because I haven't seen you provide anything of the sort.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

My favorite part about this thread has been watching EdwardCat spit out a bunch of stuff that pretty much no one agrees with, and then ending those posts with some one-liner quip about how damning his "argument" is as if everyone who read it suddenly thought 'wow, this guy is a genius, he's absolutely right, I totally agree with him".

 

[encaitar]

Last week was a perfect storm of sorts against ADP. First both of his starting tackles get hurt early in the game(they came back, but obviously playing hurt). Then McKinnie is tipping plays and Arizona takes advantage of it. Finally, the Vikings fell behind and had to abandon the running game. Arizona was a good run D to begin with and just had everything go their way in that game. EdwardCat is probably the biggest hater I've ever seen wrt one player. If AP doesn't have 100 yards by halftime he's #####ing in every game thread. Look, you can make all the decisions and crazy lineup moves you want, but it would take an above average day from a player like Charles and a below average day from AP in order for a plan like that to work out. It seems like a lot to gamble on in my mind despite how good or bad the defenses are that they are facing.

Wow, overreact much? I've never said I hated Peterson nor do I engage in the absurd activity you claim. Get your own house in order. In fact, I'm not, as you so eloquently put, hating in this thread. I'm using clear statistical evidence for why Peterson isn't a good start this week. Statistically, Mendenhall looked like a great option over Peterson. No one knew his offensive line would simply forget how to play the game of football. (In fact, Mendenhall managed a fair number of yards despite his pathetic offensive line.)In addition, no, Arizona isn't a good run defense. Johnson lit them up.Back to the drawing board for you, sir.

Well, I could pull up old game threads where you pop in on page one or two while the game is still in the first half complaining how terrible AP looks only to have him finish with 90 and a TD or more, but I don't think that's needed. I'm not going to argue about his last 3 games because he has had a tough stretch and no one is arguing that point. The difference is, most rational people realize that despite a poor showing lately, you can't take a recent trend into account with a dynamic player like Peterson. He's the type of talent that if he gets going, he'll pop for 150 and 2 no matter how good the defense is playing.And yes, Arizona is a good run D. Look at the stats from before Johnson. CJ had a good game against them and he's having a good run right now, but unless you have CJ and Steven Jackson or MJD the risk of sitting AP is higher than the reward and if you sat him for Mendenhall then I don't have any sympathy for you.

 

[Chaka]

AP is higher than the reward and if you sat him for Mendenhall then I don't have any sympathy for you.

I sat Charles for Mendenhall.

So you are running with AP over Charles?

Don't say that, man. Just benched ADP for Charles again. I just see Charles with more upside this week...

 

[caglassc]

I don't know if there is a precedent to bench ADP just because he is facing a tough defense. At this point in the season a lot of who I start is based on a multitude of factors not just sheer stats. But benching ADP for a guy like Mendenhall is a bit over the top in my opinion. The number one thing for me is to not "over-think" or second guess my starting lineups. I have and will continue to bank on ADPs potential in each and every game. That potential is greater than anyone else that I have to replace him.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Minnesota RB Adrian Peterson (foot, ankle) has been listed as probable for the team's Week 14 game against the Bengals. Peterson was able to practice in a limited fashion on Thursday or Friday. Peterson, who has just three 100-yard games all season, is hoping to run well Sunday against the Bengals, who are No. 2 in run defense. "It's not frustrating at all," Peterson said. "Of course, as a running back and how competitive I am, I would like to have 300 yards a game." Peterson also wants to rebound from last week's game at Arizona when he had 13 carries for 19 yards and six catches for 46 yards. "Personally, I feel in that game everyone wasn't there," Peterson said. "It was just a lackadaisical attitude. With that, the effect just trickles down to the entire team. I feel like that's all it was. That can make the run game look bad. It can make the pass game look bad, special teams. It was all around."(Updated 12/11/2009).Fantasy AnalysisPeterson is a No. 1 Fantasy RB when healthy, and maybe the ankle injury was the reason for his poor outing against the Cardinals Week 14. He has a tough matchup against the Bengals' tough run defense, but keep Peterson active as he should be able to play.

spizortsline

 

[NatronIsMean]

I plan to start AP, but I REALLY don't know if he will score more in PPR than Fred Jackson @ KC or Steve Smith (CAR) @ NE.

I'm not sitting Ray Rice vs DET or Jamaal Charles vs BUF (flex). And I'm not planning on sitting VJax or Austin in the Dallas vs SD game. Maybe I'll have to rethink VJax vs Steve Smith...

Ultimately, AP is definitely not on fire right now. The upside doesn't feel as high as usual. That said, I do like the idea of a bounce-back. He is a guy with heart and is pissed... as long as Childress and Favre give him the chance he'll perform this week.

 

[Chaka]

I plan to start AP, but I REALLY don't know if he will score more in PPR than Fred Jackson @ KC or Steve Smith (CAR) @ NE.

I'm not sitting Ray Rice vs DET or Jamaal Charles vs BUF (flex). And I'm not planning on sitting VJax or Austin in the Dallas vs SD game. Maybe I'll have to rethink VJax vs Steve Smith...

Ultimately, AP is definitely not on fire right now. The upside doesn't feel as high as usual. That said, I do like the idea of a bounce-back. He is a guy with heart and is pissed... as long as Childress and Favre give him the chance he'll perform this week.

Pissed like a motivated man ready to crush anyone who gets in his way or pissed like everyone thought the Steelers were going to be in Cleveland? Which was more like a 63 year old British dude at 3:00am after one to many Newcastles.I'm just saying.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I never thought I'd be considering this. But with Childress driving this all world talent into the ground (play selection and limited carries), injuries to the vikes OL, and facing a tough Bengals D (kinda funny to even type that, but it's true) can I possibly be benching AP in the playoffs.Arghhhhh

You don't sit ADP in week 14, I don't know what else to say. This is a classic case of overthinking things. The guy isn't Priest Holmes or Marshall Faulk (or even LT2 in his prime) with the NO. 1 pick but you don't sit him in crunch time. Spend your time thinking of you you're going to sit between the other guys.BTW, I'd much rather have your problem than mine and many others I've read on here.

 

[Sabertooth]

I never thought I'd be considering this. But with Childress driving this all world talent into the ground (play selection and limited carries), injuries to the vikes OL, and facing a tough Bengals D (kinda funny to even type that, but it's true) can I possibly be benching AP in the playoffs.Arghhhhh

You don't sit ADP in week 14, I don't know what else to say. This is a classic case of overthinking things. The guy isn't Priest Holmes or Marshall Faulk (or even LT2 in his prime) with the NO. 1 pick but you don't sit him in crunch time. Spend your time thinking of you you're going to sit between the other guys.BTW, I'd much rather have your problem than mine and many others I've read on here.

I've got Jamal Charles, ADP, and MJD. Start two. This is a tougher decision than one would think. I squeeked into the playoffs by the hair of my chinny chin chin with a .500 record. If I don't put my best combination out there, I lose. That all said, I am playing MJD and All Day. All Day has let me down in the past when he put up a clunker vs. Chicago and the other Adrian Peterson late in the season so I am wary. But I agree that you've got to roll with your studs here.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

No Peko for the Bengals makes the match up a lot better

bengals will be behind all game long

Can bengals homers chime in on Peko and his role/replacement. TIA

 

[warren663]

I never thought I'd be considering this. But with Childress driving this all world talent into the ground (play selection and limited carries), injuries to the vikes OL, and facing a tough Bengals D (kinda funny to even type that, but it's true) can I possibly be benching AP in the playoffs.Arghhhhh

You don't sit ADP in week 14, I don't know what else to say. This is a classic case of overthinking things. The guy isn't Priest Holmes or Marshall Faulk (or even LT2 in his prime) with the NO. 1 pick but you don't sit him in crunch time. Spend your time thinking of you you're going to sit between the other guys.BTW, I'd much rather have your problem than mine and many others I've read on here.

I've got Jamal Charles, ADP, and MJD. Start two. This is a tougher decision than one would think. I squeeked into the playoffs by the hair of my chinny chin chin with a .500 record. If I don't put my best combination out there, I lose. That all said, I am playing MJD and All Day. All Day has let me down in the past when he put up a clunker vs. Chicago and the other Adrian Peterson late in the season so I am wary. But I agree that you've got to roll with your studs here.

I've got basically the same kind of options-ADP, Rice, Gore and Charles - I just don't have much confidence in ADP right now, espcially with an injured foot/ankle, maybe that explains his decreased recent production. I'm going with Rice and Charles. They both have great matchups and I've accepted the fact that I may lose with ADP on the bench, but so be it.

 

[Menace]

Well I screwed up royally with Mendenhall, now I have to decide between ADP and R.Rice. I know whichever decision I make will be the wrong one.

 

[Chaka]

Well I screwed up royally with Mendenhall, now I have to decide between ADP and R.Rice. I know whichever decision I make will be the wrong one.

Maybe so but you gotta like your options.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Well I screwed up royally with Mendenhall, now I have to decide between ADP and R.Rice. I know whichever decision I make will be the wrong one.

Then please pick Rice, I need ADP to do well for my playoff game -QG

 

[Sinn Fein]

 

[Da Guru]

I hope that this puts an end to asinine threads like this.

There is no way I was going to bench ADP..I could live with him not producing, but I could not live with me benching my #1 pick and having him go off. Never bench your studs!!

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

It was this thread's discussion, and realizing that were I to do it, that I'd be essentially thinking like edward the cat that made me slap myself silly and leave all day in.

very nice game, and was given the goalline finally.

 

[Brother Mouzone]