Bengals best trade option for QB? (1 Viewer)

[brian98]

With Browning failing to find the success he had a couple years ago, they gotta be getting antsy. But I’m not asking *should they* I am asking: assuming they do, who would be the best fit?
We hear often that so-and-so “knows the system of the current OC and would slip right in” while the other guy might have to learn everything from scratch. So does Cousins, Winston, Wilson, know the Bengals system?

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I'm not sure there are any acquirable QBs that have any real connection to the offensive coaching staff. Taylor was a WR/QB coach for the Rams 7 years ago and Dan Pitcher (OC) has been with the Bengals for a decade in various roles.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Based on the 2018 QB class' ability to bounce back from difficult positions, the Bengals should clearly be picking up Josh Rosen.

 

[Smack Tripper]

Winston seems to make sense with how they want to play

How did Winston do with RB Dumppffs?

Kirko and Russ are too much money and just statues. Atlanta is a contender, they’re gonna need Kirk

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Winston would be a bad choice. It'd be fun for fantasy but he isn't going to make them a more winning team in any real sense. Might as well just tank and secure draft capital.

They'd be much better off with a boring game manager like Garappolo. They need to minimise the errors the QB is making, not open themselves up to even more.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

Winston would be a bad choice. It'd be fun for fantasy but he isn't going to make them a more winning team in any real sense. Might as well just tank and secure draft capital.

They'd be much better off with a boring game manager like Garappolo. They need to minimise the errors the QB is making, not open themselves up to even more.

Zero chance LA would give them Jimmy G given the precariousness of Stafford's back. Realistically the only starter-level QBs available are Jameis and Cousins

Winston would actually be the perfect choice (and not just because I'm heavily invested in Chase and Higgins across my teams). He'd make the games exciting rather than the bludgeonings we've seen the past couple weeks but would still lose enough to ensure a high draft pick. Plus, the blame for the losses would fall on him for all the INTs he'd throw, which would take some of the heat off of Taylor, who's in real danger of being fired if this season turns into a disaster

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Malik Willis has shown he can start in the NFL but I doubt the Packers would give him up easily. Their third option is a guy named Clayton Tune who wasn't on the roster for camp or any of the preseason games. They signed him in late August after final cuts. However, as Willis is in the final year of his rookie contract it might be appealing for the Packers to get something for him.

 

[Mitchie]

They're done, no point in trading for anyone, maybe if they get someone super cheap but not even sure that's worth it. Get a high draft pick and re-group.

 

[Monkian]

They're done, no point in trading for anyone, maybe if they get someone super cheap but not even sure that's worth it. Get a high draft pick and re-group.

This. They aren't winning with anyone so why give up assets?

 

[Birdie048]

Kirk Cousins? I am sure he would consider them as worthy for his time?
Or maybe Gardner Minshew (currently with KC).

I still like the Jameis Winston idea, but the Turn Overs would cripple the already porous Cinn Defense

 

[Banger]

ya, if they had a good defense and a capable QB could make them competitive (like the Browns) then maybe it would make sense. When you're giving up 40/game...you need an elite Burrow type of QB to even give you a chance. You certainly aren't trading for one of those....

 

[QuizGuy66]

They have already inquired about Willis and yeah the Packers like having him as their backup even with it being his last contract year.

Jameis is signed for next year. Wilson is not. (I personally think 'not' is preferred for the backup spot and to address again in the off-season).

Or we can go with Mike (Bleepin') White and set up a revenge game against the Jets in a few weeks.

-QG

 

[JohnnyU]

They're done, no point in trading for anyone, maybe if they get someone super cheap but not even sure that's worth it. Get a high draft pick and re-group.

This. They aren't winning with anyone so why give up assets?

This. It's OL, not Browning.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I am not a fan of taking on the Cousins contract and term. The upside with him isn't enough to justify that.

-QG

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

They should maybe be looking to trade people away. From the outside it looks that way.

But, players on the team want to win, sending away assets or not doing whatever you can to get W's in the short term can kill a locker room and coach/player relationships forever.

 

[travdogg]

Winston seems to make sense with how they want to play

How did Winston do with RB Dumppffs?

Kirko and Russ are too much money and just statues. Atlanta is a contender, they’re gonna need Kirk

Russ is basically no money. He seems like easily the best candidate to me, given his team has actively said he's available. The Giants seem like they want to keep Jameis, though he'd make sense if they didn't. Cousins would be ideal, but I think Atlanta would need at least a day 2 pick, and that seems too high for a fill-in. I think the Giants would deal Russ for like a conditional 6th.

They're done, no point in trading for anyone, maybe if they get someone super cheap but not even sure that's worth it. Get a high draft pick and re-group.

9-8 could absolutely win the AFC North (part of why even if they start 1-5, the Ravens are still very much alive) let's not pretend the Steelers are any good. Let's say a guy like Russ keeps the afloat and they enter December at 6-7. Then they potentially get Burrow back. I think Zac Taylor is 100% on the hot seat. Even without Burrow, I think another missed playoffs and he's fired, as he should be.

Ultimately, they'll probably just stick with Browning, but man, he was awful yesterday. Bengals D actually played pretty well against the Lions, but they kept having to start defending on their own side of the field thanks to Browning.

 

[BearsFan4Life]

Let Russ cook!

 

[Mitchie]

Winston seems to make sense with how they want to play

How did Winston do with RB Dumppffs?

Kirko and Russ are too much money and just statues. Atlanta is a contender, they’re gonna need Kirk

Russ is basically no money. He seems like easily the best candidate to me, given his team has actively said he's available. The Giants seem like they want to keep Jameis, though he'd make sense if they didn't. Cousins would be ideal, but I think Atlanta would need at least a day 2 pick, and that seems too high for a fill-in. I think the Giants would deal Russ for like a conditional 6th.

They're done, no point in trading for anyone, maybe if they get someone super cheap but not even sure that's worth it. Get a high draft pick and re-group.

9-8 could absolutely win the AFC North (part of why even if they start 1-5, the Ravens are still very much alive) let's not pretend the Steelers are any good. Let's say a guy like Russ keeps the afloat and they enter December at 6-7. Then they potentially get Burrow back. I think Zac Taylor is 100% on the hot seat. Even without Burrow, I think another missed playoffs and he's fired, as he should be.

Ultimately, they'll probably just stick with Browning, but man, he was awful yesterday. Bengals D actually played pretty well against the Lions, but they kept having to start defending on their own side of the field thanks to Browning.

I dunno I'm actually a bigger fan of Russ than most but think chances of even getting to 9-8 with that team w/ Russ at this point in his career is pretty remote.

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

Jameis is little more than a QB player-coach and locker room "glue" guy. If he gave any team a more competitive path, he would be off the Giant's roster in a heartbeat because they need the draft assets.

 

[Monkian]

Winston seems to make sense with how they want to play

How did Winston do with RB Dumppffs?

Kirko and Russ are too much money and just statues. Atlanta is a contender, they’re gonna need Kirk

Russ is basically no money. He seems like easily the best candidate to me, given his team has actively said he's available. The Giants seem like they want to keep Jameis, though he'd make sense if they didn't. Cousins would be ideal, but I think Atlanta would need at least a day 2 pick, and that seems too high for a fill-in. I think the Giants would deal Russ for like a conditional 6th.

They're done, no point in trading for anyone, maybe if they get someone super cheap but not even sure that's worth it. Get a high draft pick and re-group.

9-8 could absolutely win the AFC North (part of why even if they start 1-5, the Ravens are still very much alive) let's not pretend the Steelers are any good. Let's say a guy like Russ keeps the afloat and they enter December at 6-7. Then they potentially get Burrow back. I think Zac Taylor is 100% on the hot seat. Even without Burrow, I think another missed playoffs and he's fired, as he should be.

Ultimately, they'll probably just stick with Browning, but man, he was awful yesterday. Bengals D actually played pretty well against the Lions, but they kept having to start defending on their own side of the field thanks to Browning.

I dunno I'm actually a bigger fan of Russ than most but think chances of even getting to 9-8 with that team w/ Russ at this point in his career is pretty remote.

The Bengals were 9-8 with Burrow last year, and I think this team might be worse. It's just a lost season, end of story.

 

[Jewell]

Realistically the only starter-level QBs available are Jameis and Cousins

There’s a chance, albeit a small one, that a team could coax Derek Carr out of retirement and trade a low draft pick to the Saints for his rights.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I mean, any talk of a trade is just a bit silly, how are you going to get him up to speed with 10 weeks left

 

[Snotbubbles]

They should be looking to sell, not buy.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

I mean, any talk of a trade is just a bit silly, how are you going to get him up to speed with 10 weeks left

Niners traded for Jimmy G midseason in I think 2017. Took a couple weeks for him to get acclimated but by the end of the year he looked pretty good

 

[Zow]

They should be looking to sell, not buy.

Right.

I came into the year thinking Browning is one of the league's better backups. He obviously hasn't looked good, but that team collectively is a dumpster fire so I haven't really changed that mindset. As such, the Bengals would be moving laterally by grabbing somebody like a Pickett, Jimmy G, etc. Maybe they lose by less in a more boring fashion and your skill players get frustrated?

For fantasy, Jameis would be awesome but if I were the GM of the the Bengals I wouldn't consider him because I have a similar QB and giving up capital seems malpractice for a team who can't afford it.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

They should be looking to sell, not buy.

Depends on who you mean by "they". If you're Zack Taylor, and a 4-13 season means you're getting canned, you're going to be all-in on buying. (Not sure about the front office; I know the Bengals have some kind of weird setup where no one really knows who the GM is. But it's possible they are also thinking short-term).

ETA: Just looked it up. No one has the title of GM, but Duke Tobin is recognized as the de facto GM. He's been there since 1999, so I assume he's not feeling any pressure

 

[Zow]

They should be looking to sell, not buy.

Depends on who you mean by "they". If you're Zack Taylor, and a 4-13 season means you're getting canned, you're going to be all-in on buying. (Not sure about the front office; I know the Bengals have some kind of weird setup where no one really knows who the GM is. But it's possible they are also thinking short-term).

You think so? Seems like losing your best player warrants somewhat of a pass. Not sure of the current relationship between Taylor and management.

 

[menobrown]

Just going to say that while Winston would be fun he's under contract for 2026. Their plan was always to have him on the team to backup whatever QB they took this year or next.

If Giants make a QB available it would be Russ.

The good with Russ is he'd throw moon balls and give his WR's a better chance to make plays. The bad is he's be awful with his lack of mobility and slower processing behind this atrocious OL.

 

[JohnnyU]

I wouldn't even want Burrow playing behind that OL. He shouldn't play at all later this year if he's able. Let them get Browning killed in 2025 and whoever else after that, and then improove the OL in the offseason. That's the long game I would be playing.

 

[Banger]

bottom line is that this team isn't one player from contending.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Honestly, I'd just roll with Browning and take the high draft pick next year. Either take the best OT available or trade down and get a few picks to plug more holes.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Kirk Cousins? I am sure he would consider them as worthy for his time?

Sitting duck behind that OL. He’s on IR by week 8.

Call the Dolphins to see what they’d take for Zack Wilson. Based on the track record for ex-Jets QBs he‘d probably take them to the playoffs.

 

[ignatiusjreilly]

They should be looking to sell, not buy.

Depends on who you mean by "they". If you're Zack Taylor, and a 4-13 season means you're getting canned, you're going to be all-in on buying. (Not sure about the front office; I know the Bengals have some kind of weird setup where no one really knows who the GM is. But it's possible they are also thinking short-term).

You think so? Seems like losing your best player warrants somewhat of a pass. Not sure of the current relationship between Taylor and management.

On the one hand, you're right that it's hardly Taylor's fault. Also, as we saw with Marvin Lewis, that front office is very slow on the trigger finger.

On the other hand, this would be three straight years of no playoffs, which very few coaches can survive, plus if they continue to look this bad the FO may feel they have no choice

 

[JohnnyU]

Honestly, I'd just roll with Browning and take the high draft pick next year. Either take the best OT available or trade down and get a few picks to plug more holes.

That's the smart move.

 

[Deamon]

They have a perfectly capable backup already that they should be giving a shot to over Browning.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Golden opportunity to land a Top-5 pick and take the best OL as others have suggested to protect their biggest investment that will now miss the better part of 3 seasons over 6 years
They've wasted half his best years, it's criminal

-In other words, just keep losing

 

[steelcityman]

Please trade for Russ Wilson. Pretty please! No matter who, behind that OL, it will be a disaster. One can only chuck it up there so often before INTs happen. Russ, Jameis, whoever.
Whats the point of going 6-11 compared to 3-14? That OL and defense, even with Burrow, it would be a struggle to go 8-9. Just lose. Get Francis Mauigoa, OT from Miami, and be happy.

 

[Deamon]

Please trade for Russ Wilson. Pretty please! No matter who, behind that OL, it will be a disaster. One can only chuck it up there so often before INTs happen. Russ, Jameis, whoever.
Whats the point of going 6-11 compared to 3-14? That OL and defense, even with Burrow, it would be a struggle to go 8-9. Just lose. Get Francis Mauigoa, OT from Miami, and be happy.

If they want to go 3-14 and get a high draft pick, keep playing Browning.

If they want to go 6-11 and get an average draft pick, trade for Wilson.

If they want to go 10-7 and maybe make playoffs, play Rypien.

 

[Monkian]

Please trade for Russ Wilson. Pretty please! No matter who, behind that OL, it will be a disaster. One can only chuck it up there so often before INTs happen. Russ, Jameis, whoever.
Whats the point of going 6-11 compared to 3-14? That OL and defense, even with Burrow, it would be a struggle to go 8-9. Just lose. Get Francis Mauigoa, OT from Miami, and be happy.

If they want to go 3-14 and get a high draft pick, keep playing Browning.

If they want to go 6-11 and get an average draft pick, trade for Wilson.

If they want to go 10-7 and maybe make playoffs, play Rypien.

You do realize it's Brett, not Mark, right?

 

[Deamon]

Please trade for Russ Wilson. Pretty please! No matter who, behind that OL, it will be a disaster. One can only chuck it up there so often before INTs happen. Russ, Jameis, whoever.
Whats the point of going 6-11 compared to 3-14? That OL and defense, even with Burrow, it would be a struggle to go 8-9. Just lose. Get Francis Mauigoa, OT from Miami, and be happy.

If they want to go 3-14 and get a high draft pick, keep playing Browning.

If they want to go 6-11 and get an average draft pick, trade for Wilson.

If they want to go 10-7 and maybe make playoffs, play Rypien.

You do realize it's Brett, not Mark, right?

Yes.

 

[Desert_Power]

I'm not sure there are any acquirable QBs that have any real connection to the offensive coaching staff. Taylor was a WR/QB coach for the Rams 7 years ago and Dan Pitcher (OC) has been with the Bengals for a decade in various roles.

Is that Andy Dalton's music?!

 

[Skipdog77]

The answer lies at the opposite side of the state...it's Shedeur time, baby.

 

[QuizGuy66]

They have a perfectly capable backup already that they should be giving a shot to over Browning.

Okay that's one vote for Mike White




-QG

 

[Deamon]

They have a perfectly capable backup already that they should be giving a shot to over Browning.

Okay that's one vote for Mike White




-QG

how dare you.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

the reason to acquire Winston is not to guarantee success...its to eliminate the hopelessness felt by the fan base and to fill seats. winning half the games would be a win.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I've never been tank guy but getting the best possible pick to help Burrow out next year seems like a no brainer. Someone mentioned the top offensive lineman earlier, which makes a ton of sense.

 

[B Maverick]

The answer lies at the opposite side of the state...it's Shedeur time, baby.

I was thinking Flacco but this could be interesting too. Although not wanting to play behind Lamar, would he want to be behind Burrow?

 

[ghostguy123]

Flacco

 

[Max55]

How long does it take a veteran NFL QB to pick up a new offense and be playable?

 

[Deamon]

They have a perfectly capable backup already that they should be giving a shot to over Browning.

Okay that's one vote for Mike White




-QG

And he's only on PS. Brett deserves the shot and you know it!