Bengals Debacle (1 Viewer)

[Mungo Burrows]

Not saying it was the right call, but I'm guessing this is what the ref was keying on. He does seem to hesitate and shift his weight in order to thrust him downward.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I do not love or hate either the Bengals or the Bucs, but that might be the worst call I have ever seen.

 

[Sugar Huddle]

Another Bengals homer chiming in here. I know a lot of you guys, especially the Squeeler fans, are saying Cincy had their chances to win the game and we shouldn't be whining about one call. Here's how I see it...Tampa played a good game, the Bengals coulda played better. In the end though, the Bengals made the play to win the game and they were victim to a bad call by an official. The sack and fumble would have ended the game. No whining, just fact.

 

[fred_1_15301]

Another Bengals homer chiming in here. I know a lot of you guys, especially the Squeeler fans, are saying Cincy had their chances to win the game and we shouldn't be whining about one call. Here's how I see it...Tampa played a good game, the Bengals coulda played better. In the end though, the Bengals made the play to win the game and they were victim to a bad call by an official. The sack and fumble would have ended the game. No whining, just fact.

Why are you singling out "Squeeler" fans? It isn't just "Squeeler fans" making the point that the Bungles were screwed but still should have been able to overcome it. That seems to be a near consensus in this thread......

 

[Stillers Jr.]

Another Bengals homer chiming in here. I know a lot of you guys, especially the Squeeler fans, are saying Cincy had their chances to win the game and we shouldn't be whining about one call. Here's how I see it...Tampa played a good game, the Bengals coulda played better. In the end though, the Bengals made the play to win the game and they were victim to a bad call by an official. The sack and fumble would have ended the game. No whining, just fact.

Why are you singling out "Squeeler" fans? It isn't just "Squeeler fans" making the point that the Bungles were screwed but still should have been able to overcome it. That seems to be a near consensus in this thread......

Shazaam!

 

[Steelers4Life]

Another Bengals homer chiming in here. I know a lot of you guys, especially the Squeeler fans, are saying Cincy had their chances to win the game and we shouldn't be whining about one call. Here's how I see it...Tampa played a good game, the Bengals coulda played better. In the end though, the Bengals made the play to win the game and they were victim to a bad call by an official. The sack and fumble would have ended the game. No whining, just fact.

I think the point being made is that everyone agrees the call was a BS call. That's not being disputed. But a contending team should be able to overcome a call like that or not be in a position to have a call like that decide the game in the first place. It's not like this was expected to be a hard-fought game between 2 very good teams.If I were a Bengals fan, I'd be more upset that they allowed the Bucs to hang around for 4 quarters and the defense still wasn't able to hold Tampa Bay out of the end zone after the call. They still had 25 yards to go after the call. I'd be upset that once again a team was able to run effectively on them and this time Rudi was held in check against a previously poor run defense. Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

 

[cheese]

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

I completely agreed with your post until this part. Its not laughable. In fact, its pretty obvious that this play was the deciding factor in the game.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

I completely agreed with your post until this part. Its not laughable. In fact, its pretty obvious that this play was the deciding factor in the game.

No, it wasn't. The Bucs still had to move 25 more yards to get into the end zone after the play. If that same call is made in the 1st quarter, even if the drive ends in a TD, it's not NEARLY as scrutinized. There were a ton of factors that contributed to the loss for the Bengals, and the call is only one of them.

 

[RTB1]

It was almost like Ken Anderson was calling plays again.

:shivers:

 

[Ghost Rider]

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

I completely agreed with your post until this part. Its not laughable. In fact, its pretty obvious that this play was the deciding factor in the game.

No, it wasn't. The Bucs still had to move 25 more yards to get into the end zone after the play. If that same call is made in the 1st quarter, even if the drive ends in a TD, it's not NEARLY as scrutinized. There were a ton of factors that contributed to the loss for the Bengals, and the call is only one of them.

But that call didn't happened in the 1st quarter. It happened at a critical point in the 4th quarter. Here is a question for you...If that penalty was not called, do you think the Bengals would have won the game?

 

[bryhamm]

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

I completely agreed with your post until this part. Its not laughable. In fact, its pretty obvious that this play was the deciding factor in the game.

How can you agree with everything he says and then make the bolded statement?

If they beat up on a team they should have beaten up on, then the play is not the "deciding factor". In fact, I would say that their are two deciding factors:

1) you could not stop a winless team from scoring

2) you could not score on a winless team

 

[NoFBinLA]

Regardless of whether the Bengals should have been ahead by a large margin at that point (they should have) and TB shouldn't have been close (they shouldn't have - Gradkowski = miracle worker?) --

That was a goddawful ####### call.

 

[Workhorse]

Hadn't seen the clip until now.

What a HORRIFIC call.

 

[gildawg]

Am I the only one on here that thinks the ground caused the fumble and wouldn't have been a turn over? Even the Bengals radio announcer thought it wasn't a fumble. Bengals are in trouble in the long run, two of their best linemen are out for the next game against a great d, it's gonna be a long month or so for the Bengals.

 

[malaka]

I think the point being made is that everyone agrees the call was a BS call. That's not being disputed. But a contending team should be able to overcome a call like that or not be in a position to have a call like that decide the game in the first place. It's not like this was expected to be a hard-fought game between 2 very good teams.

If I were a Bengals fan, I'd be more upset that they allowed the Bucs to hang around for 4 quarters and the defense still wasn't able to hold Tampa Bay out of the end zone after the call. They still had 25 yards to go after the call. I'd be upset that once again a team was able to run effectively on them and this time Rudi was held in check against a previously poor run defense.

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

Well if you admit the call was BS.....its not really laugable to think it was the deciding factor. Considering it was that drive TB scored the game winning TD. If the call was correct, it was a sack and fumble recovery, Bengals ball and the end of TB game winning scoring drive.

 

[malaka]

Am I the only one on here that thinks the ground caused the fumble and wouldn't have been a turn over? Even the Bengals radio announcer thought it wasn't a fumble. Bengals are in trouble in the long run, two of their best linemen are out for the next game against a great d, it's gonna be a long month or so for the Bengals.

I think the ball was coming out when he was tackled, the defender was pulling on Gradkowski arm as he was tackling him.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Maybe I'm just not getting this, but isn't roughing the passer when a player has thrown the football and the player is hit after releasing the ball?

By definition, he couldn't have fumbled AND had a roughing the passer called, could he? IMO That ref needed to pick up the flag when it was determined the QB had fumbled. One can't exist with the other.

Definetly hosed at a critical time in the game.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

I completely agreed with your post until this part. Its not laughable. In fact, its pretty obvious that this play was the deciding factor in the game.

No, it wasn't. The Bucs still had to move 25 more yards to get into the end zone after the play. If that same call is made in the 1st quarter, even if the drive ends in a TD, it's not NEARLY as scrutinized. There were a ton of factors that contributed to the loss for the Bengals, and the call is only one of them.

But that call didn't happened in the 1st quarter. It happened at a critical point in the 4th quarter. Here is a question for you...If that penalty was not called, do you think the Bengals would have won the game?

A bad call is a bad call no matter when or where it occurs. I personally thought that the call against the Bengals was a far worse call than any call that went against the Seahawks in the Super Bowl, but in both cases, the losing team lost because of many more reasons than the penalties. And in both cases, it's easier to point to the debatable penalties than all of the other reasons.Of course they win the game if the penalty isn't called and it's ruled a fumble. They also win if the defense can prevent the Bucs from moving another 25 yards afterwards. They also win if they can stop the running game of the Bucs, run the ball, or play the way they should have against a team that hadn't won a game yet this year.The penalty was a big call, but it hardly was the deciding factor in the game.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

 

[Stillers Jr.]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault. the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

 

[Peyton Marino]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault. the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

our defense held them to 14 points. that hardly constitutes 'sucking'. get a grip dude.

 

[oukurt]

Bengal - The people around here could care less about the incompetent calls that cost your team a win and they and will argue to the death how these monumentally bad calls are a part of sports and how we are just crying about things. Until one of these calls go against the team they love, they will never understand. Being a Sooner fan, I can sympathize with you.

 

[SteelerMurf]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty.

Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.

Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

 

[cubbie5150]

If that so-called high octane offense would put up more points, that final drive wouldn't have mattered. I think the Bungles have more to worry about than one (admittedly) bad call.. Go tell Carson Palmer to pull is head out & be the player he's been hyped to be..one year does not a career make....

 

[Stillers Jr.]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty.

Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.

Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

The logic used in this post is light-years ahead of what Bengal fans can comprehend. They will focus only on the bad call and never say a word about what happened after the call. Probably b/c they can't defend their defense.

 

[Peyton Marino]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty.

Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.

Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

The logic used in this post is light-years ahead of what Bengal fans can comprehend. They will focus only on the bad call and never say a word about what happened after the call. Probably b/c they can't defend their defense.

We got that, we're saying we should've played better. We're agreeing with you, we know we still should've won even with the missed call. We know there's no excuse for losing this game, nobody here is using the missed call as an excuse. You're the one missing the point in this thread. All of your posts here have been one big :whoosh: The only person that even remotely uses the call as an excuse to lose is the original poster, and we already established that he's a tool.

 

[malaka]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty. Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

Lets see if the call was correct, the Bucs loss possession of the ball....did the Bucs score the 7 points during that possession yes. Does the time on the clock make a difference if the play was called correctly? Yes Does these facts go over most Steeler fans that are so blinded by their hatred of the Bengals? YES. By the way what does that Rookie QB and mediorce wr have that Ben and Ward didn't?Back on subject bad call....period......are bad calls by NFL refs becoming the norm, starting to look that way. Is a change needed, yes.

 

[SteelerMurf]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty. Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

Lets see if the call was correct, the Bears loss possession of the ball....did the Bears score the 7 points during that possession yes. Does the time on the clock make a difference if the play was called correctly? Yes Does these facts go over most Steeler fans that are so blinded by their hatred of the Bengals? YES

Bears play tonight at Arizona. Thanks for your contribution.

 

[Irish]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty. Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

Lets see if the call was correct, the Bears loss possession of the ball....did the Bears score the 7 points during that possession yes. Does the time on the clock make a difference if the play was called correctly? Yes Does these facts go over most Steeler fans that are so blinded by their hatred of the Bengals? YES

Bears play tonight at Arizona. Thanks for your contribution.

 

[malaka]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty. Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

Lets see if the call was correct, the Bears loss possession of the ball....did the Bears score the 7 points during that possession yes. Does the time on the clock make a difference if the play was called correctly? Yes Does these facts go over most Steeler fans that are so blinded by their hatred of the Bengals? YES

Bears play tonight at Arizona. Sorry was watching the football game and have Bears on my mind.....have 2 players going tonight all BearsThanks for your contribution.

 

[Sugar Huddle]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault. the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

I can only imagine how many Steelers fans would have been outraged if the outcome of the Indy game last year had not turned in their favor. Yes, the non-interception call was a terrible call. And, yes, it was a terrible call because it almost decided a play-off game. But it didn't cost you the game so Steelers fans let it go.I take exception to your comment that Bengals fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame. All Bengals fans do not whine and cry foul. It was a terrible call yesterday that decided the outcome of a game. And going back to last year, if it had been Ben laying on the turf with a busted knee I can only imagine that the outcry of cheap shot would have been heard from one coast to the other.

 

[SoFresh&SoClean]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty.

Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.

Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

The logic used in this post is light-years ahead of what Bengal fans can comprehend. They will focus only on the bad call and never say a word about what happened after the call. Probably b/c they can't defend their defense.

You're a terrible poster, no wonder I had you on ignore.

 

[ren hoek]

If that so-called high octane offense would put up more points, that final drive wouldn't have mattered. I think the Bungles have more to worry about than one (admittedly) bad call.. Go tell Carson Palmer to pull is head out & be the player he's been hyped to be..one year does not a career make....

The Bengals were missing Levi Jones and Rich Braham on their offensive line, and they haven't looked the same at all as a unit this season. Palmer doesn't look as good statistically this year as last year, but he is absolutely the last guy on the offense that I'd blame for their struggles. We've had Eric Steinbach, a natural Guard, at Left Tackle, Guard, and Center this season. I don't know if you're the type to understand that offensive line play is a critical factor in the success and efficiency of an offense, but that's the reason that Palmer and CJ have been disappointing so far this season.Here's another thing to remember for the people that are arguing that the Bengals shouldn't have let an 0-4 team hang around. On top of the offensive line guys that were out, Cincinnati was also missing their entire group of starting LBs, SS, and Henry. The Bengals simply aren't a good football team right now, so it's not as simple as expecting them to dominate a team like TB on the road. I think most Bengal fans acknowledge that the team played like ###, and I certainly don't agree with the original poster that the call is entirely to blame for the loss, but it was a definitive turning point at a critical moment of the game, and it clearly deflated the defense. It was a 100% horrendous piece of officiating and the NFL should honestly question its own rules in regards to the ability to challenge penalties. I feel comfortable in the belief that the Bengals would have won if that call goes the other way, but I wouldn't try to take away from the fact that TB scored to win the game.

 

[bbuster]

I'm actually looking forward to Eisen asking Pierira about that call on NFL Total Access this week. I want to see how he squirms out of this one.

 

[Godsbrother]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault.

the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.

Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

I can only imagine how many Steelers fans would have been outraged if the outcome of the Indy game last year had not turned in their favor. Yes, the non-interception call was a terrible call. And, yes, it was a terrible call because it almost decided a play-off game. But it didn't cost you the game so Steelers fans let it go.I take exception to your comment that Bengals fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame. All Bengals fans do not whine and cry foul. It was a terrible call yesterday that decided the outcome of a game.

This is the one statement I take issue with. There were 129 other plays in the game. To focus on this one play where you got a bad call is a way of deflecting blame for the loss. If the Bengals would have executed better on the other 129, one bad call wouldn't have cost them the game.

 

[Bonzai]

I'm actually looking forward to Eisen asking Pierira about that call on NFL Total Access this week. I want to see how he squirms out of this one.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

If I were a Bengal fan I would be embarassed to say the only thing that kept my team (coming off a bye week) from beating an 0-4 team starting a Rookie QB was one penalty.

Bad call, yes. Did the call directly result in 7 points????? NOPE, the touchdown pass several plays later from a Rookie QB to a one hit wonder mediocre WR in Michael Clayton is what lost ya the game. That and only scoring 13 points with all those offensive weapons.

Bad call? Yes, was it the only bad call in the NFL this weekend? Uhhh, no.

The logic used in this post is light-years ahead of what Bengal fans can comprehend. They will focus only on the bad call and never say a word about what happened after the call. Probably b/c they can't defend their defense.

You're a terrible poster, no wonder I had you on ignore.

 

[apalmer]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault.

the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.

Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

I can only imagine how many Steelers fans would have been outraged if the outcome of the Indy game last year had not turned in their favor. Yes, the non-interception call was a terrible call. And, yes, it was a terrible call because it almost decided a play-off game. But it didn't cost you the game so Steelers fans let it go.I take exception to your comment that Bengals fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame. All Bengals fans do not whine and cry foul. It was a terrible call yesterday that decided the outcome of a game. And going back to last year, if it had been Ben laying on the turf with a busted knee I can only imagine that the outcry of cheap shot would have been heard from one coast to the other.

I guess having a vivid imagination is important for Bengals fans. You can only imagine a lot of things, while others look at reality. But thank you for so eloquently pointing out what everyone else has been trying to tell you. You see, you have to imagine what it would have been like if the Steelers weren't a good enough team to overcome a terrible call. THAT is exactly the point the non-Bengal fans here are trying to make: good teams overcome bad (even terrible) calls, and teams that don't do that have fans to whine about it. And, you're right, not all Bengals fans are whining and crying foul--just those like you who want to imagine what it would be like to back a winner.

 

[Godsbrother]

All fans complain when they get a bad call on a game they lost -- Steelers fans are no different. But the reality is if your team would have played better then they would have been able to overcome the bad call.

The only problem I have with some Bengal fans is when they insist the Kimo hit on Palmer was dirty (it was not) and the ones that know the Bengals would have won the game had Palmer not gotten hurt (we'll never know). Other than that I think Bengal fans have been great.

I don't blame Bengal fans for being pissed about the call in the Tampa Bay game because it was a BS call. But that was only one play out of 130.

 

[Franknbeans]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault. the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

and going back to last year, if it had been Ben laying on the turf with a busted knee I can only imagine that the outcry of cheap shot would have been heard from one coast to the other.

Except we would have stopped with the if it weren't for that play, we'd be Super Bowl champs crap.

 

[cheese]

Sure, the call was BS, but it's laughable to think that it was the deciding factor in the game.

I completely agreed with your post until this part. Its not laughable. In fact, its pretty obvious that this play was the deciding factor in the game.

How can you agree with everything he says and then make the bolded statement?

If they beat up on a team they should have beaten up on, then the play is not the "deciding factor". In fact, I would say that their are two deciding factors:

1) you could not stop a winless team from scoring

2) you could not score on a winless team

Pretty simple, the call cost Cincy the game. Its pathetic that the Bengals were in a position to let a call cost them the game.

 

[shuke]

All fans complain when they get a bad call on a game they lost -- Steelers fans are no different. But the reality is if your team would have played better then they would have been able to overcome the bad call.

The only problem I have with some Bengal fans is when they insist the Kimo hit on Palmer was dirty (it was not) and the ones that know the Bengals would have won the game had Palmer not gotten hurt (we'll never know). Other than that I think Bengal fans have been great.

I don't blame Bengal fans for being pissed about the call in the Tampa Bay game because it was a BS call. But that was only one play out of 130.

As a Bengal fan, I'm embarrased when peope call the Kimo hit "dirty".

 

[malaka]

All fans complain when they get a bad call on a game they lost -- Steelers fans are no different. But the reality is if your team would have played better then they would have been able to overcome the bad call.

The only problem I have with some Bengal fans is when they insist the Kimo hit on Palmer was dirty (it was not) and the ones that know the Bengals would have won the game had Palmer not gotten hurt (we'll never know). Other than that I think Bengal fans have been great.

I don't blame Bengal fans for being pissed about the call in the Tampa Bay game because it was a BS call. But that was only one play out of 130.

I am not a Bengals fan, nor a Steelers fan. I am a Cowboys fan and a NFL fan. Rather the Bengals should of played good enough to overcome the bad call to me isn't the point. The NFL is a billion dollar organization who has NFL refs, some who do not understand the rules, Jets/Colts game come to mind. Bad calls are starting to be the norm, and it needs to be corrected.As far as the Kimo hit being dirty, I know some Chiefs fans who think they hit on Green was dirty. As far as the playoff game the Bengals winning if Palmer didn't get hurt, you are right we will never know. I would of loved to have seen a healthy Palmer for the whole game because I think win or lose that would of been the best playoff game last year, because most of the playoff games last year stunk, including the Super Bowl.

The most exciting game was the Colts/Steelers game and it was only exicting because of the bad call. If the Colts would of won that game and went on to win the Super Bowl, we would of still been talking about how that call changed everything. I don't want NFL refs deciding outcomes of games and teams shouldn't have to play against the other team and the refs to win games.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

It was the worst call ever ever. The Bengals still had little to no offense, but they played good enough to win that game if the ref hadn't blown that call. Even if it wasn't a fumble, it was a large loss of yardage that I don't believe could have been overcome by the Bucs. I was so pissed off when that happened, I broke my TV tray...

Was it worse than the Colts Steelers Playoff non-interception call? the answer is no.....Then it wasn't the worst ever.My god, Bengal fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame...whether it's the refs or cheap shots from the other team or whatever. It's never their team's fault.

the reason why you lost is your defense sucks. Plain and simple. Stop them from scoring the last TD from the 25 yard line...it's been done before believe it or not.

Bad calls happen every game. Get used to it.

I can only imagine how many Steelers fans would have been outraged if the outcome of the Indy game last year had not turned in their favor. Yes, the non-interception call was a terrible call. And, yes, it was a terrible call because it almost decided a play-off game. But it didn't cost you the game so Steelers fans let it go.I take exception to your comment that Bengals fans will stop at nothing to deflect blame. All Bengals fans do not whine and cry foul. It was a terrible call yesterday that decided the outcome of a game. And going back to last year, if it had been Ben laying on the turf with a busted knee I can only imagine that the outcry of cheap shot would have been heard from one coast to the other.

I guess having a vivid imagination is important for Bengals fans. You can only imagine a lot of things, while others look at reality. But thank you for so eloquently pointing out what everyone else has been trying to tell you. You see, you have to imagine what it would have been like if the Steelers weren't a good enough team to overcome a terrible call. THAT is exactly the point the non-Bengal fans here are trying to make: good teams overcome bad (even terrible) calls, and teams that don't do that have fans to whine about it. And, you're right, not all Bengals fans are whining and crying foul--just those like you who want to imagine what it would be like to back a winner.

Very