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What is the estimated contract amount associated with the second round tender?
Why? Woody and Ben were productive RBs.
David has never been a Law Firm guy..............
Pats typically bring in a veteran back and always have some depth - which they've needed at the position. Why would that change now?
Right, but do you think BJGE will be the primary back again like he was this year?
It depends who they end up with. Some people have the Pats drafting Ingram if he falls to them. In that case, no. Some folks think the Pats will end up with Pierre Thomas. In that case, no.This was on Rotoworld . . .ESPN Boston's Mike Reiss has "little doubt" that the Patriots will draft a running back this year.Reiss also suggests the Pats could sign a free agent to "complement" BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Danny Woodhead. While Green-Ellis fared well in his first season as a starter, his 229 carries stand a good chance to go down as a career high. We have "Law Firm" rated as a prime sell in keeper and Dynasty leagues this offseason.
Well, obviously if they draft Ingram, BJGE wouldn't be the primary. I guess I wasn't really clear on my question. The burning question everyone has going into the draft is: do you think the Pats are comfortable enough with BJGE that they won't spend an early pick on a RB who will replace him?
no, but they should all be available during the season if they need to add a back that is familiar with the system.I agree they won't roster 2 RB's, as I could see them adding a FB type to help on ST's (Kuhn would fit their MO) and maybe a young back to develop
I suppose the obvious question would be why would they want to do that? Maroney was never expensive, so trading him was not for financial reasons. If he were to come back, it would not be for substantially less money than before (which would be one component to potentially bringing back Moss). Things didn't work out in NE before and Maroney's done even less in his time in DEN. What changed that would suddenly intrigue the Pats to want him back?
How would adding a more dynamic back mess with anything?I love watching BJGE run hard, but he's a very average overall talent. He does a great job of getting through holes quickly and keeps going after contact, but he likely doesn't cause opposing D-coordinators to lose any sleep. A more explosive back would only make the Pats offense that much more dangerous. I think it's a greater than 50-50 proposition that the Pats either draft a RB with one of the many early (1-3) round picks or bring in a FA veteran like Pierre Thomas or Michael Bush or maybe even a total relamation project like Ronnie Brown or Clinton Portis (although I'd argue they are likely not better options than BJGE).'loose circuits said:
just meant that it's not broke so there is no reason to fix it. I think they should focus on other areas to improve. Most importantly OL at both OT and OG. Also believe they could use some help at OLB as well as depth along the DL. I think they focus on improving those areas with their 1st 4 or 5 picks. Then they'll take whatever back is left later on depending on value.Adding Pierre Thomas doesn't mean a whole lot since he can't get healthy anyways. Wonder what type of contract he's going to be asking for? I don't know about Michael Bush and how much of an upgrade is he to BGE?
Extremely good posting.I think you hit the nail on the head in the last part. Many people dismiss guys just because they are so-called "average" and don't have elite measurables. But there are very few guys out there that have those measurables, and many of the "average" or "above average" guys are very effective RBs. There is a reason that teams often aren't willing to put that much of a premium on the RB position when it is often a plug-and-play spot.
I really don't think you can pigeonhole what the Pats do or will do...The last championship the Pats won was with a "workhorse" stud (as well as a really good D to be fair) in Dillon. Also, I don't think the Pats have always drafted to have an elite O-line...they have dug-up a lot of guys with low picks, low-priced free agents or guys off of the scrap-heap..Koppen, Neal, Connoley, Andruzzi, Compton, Hochstein, and Ashworth all fall into this category...Dante Scarnecchia has done an excellent job at developing guys over the years. That being said I have zero issues with them using high picks on the O line this year.As for BJGE I really disagree with you...I think everyone gives him credit. He's an undrafted FA who has worked his nads off to become a quality NFL RB. He's a definite asset for the Pats. That being said he's somewhat limited in what he does. With the possibility of three departures in the Patriots backfield the Pats have an opportunity to upgrade this position. Adding a legit playmaker or even a potential stud like Ingram would only make Brady's life easier and make Benny that much more effective.Overall I'm begging for the Pats to upgrade their D this offseason...particularly the pass rush...after that I think the O line needs some help and if Mankins or Light leaves it becomes even more of a priority...all that being said if the Pats grab a RB early in the draft (with so many picks this would allow them to do it while still addressing other needs) or bring in a solid free agent (I agree with you about Ronnie Brown) I think it will only help this offense and hopefully make it a little more diverse because right now they have become far too dependent on Brady's arm.
