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T Bell
Footballguy
Is this where you're going first to show off your wife's boobs01k?
azgroover
Footballguy
Wouldn't be a bad choice. She'd have to sell some more IRA stocks to buy me a drink at that place though.Is this where you're going first to show off your wife's boobs01k?
videoguy505
Footballguy
Missing Hungry Charleys of Syracuse NY, McSorleys in Manhattan, and the Poop Deck in Hermosa Beach, CA
Tap Room at the Griswold Inn at Essex CT is nice, but a bit too small when they have live music--just too loud.
ffldrew
Footballguy
Also not sure about Minturn over bars like Woody Creek Tavern or Hotel Jerome. Also the Golden Bee at the Broadmoor.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I am pretty confident in saying that the best bars in America would not make this list.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
The link is blocked here at work. Can someone post the entire list? TIA
Drifter
Footballguy
Surprised they wouldn't give the good Doctor's old hangout a nod and chose the Minturn instead.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I was sort of thinking the same thing. In St. Louis I used to hit this bar in the city called The Famous Bar. Great place until everyone figured out how great it was and then it just got jammed every weekend. Still really cool during the week, but the weekends there blow....
Drifter
Footballguy
You might be surprised. El Chapultepec is an old, rundown, small jazz bar that was in LoDo when LoDo was all warehouses and has hosted just about every great jazz name there is. Nowadays, due to Coors Field, it sits in some of the best, hippest bar territory in the country but sill maintains it's old jazz/dive bar roots. In other words, it's no trendy top flight bar - it's as hip as can be without trying to be hip.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
Delaware:
The Deer Park and the Logan House are pretty iconic....so I don't have any problem with them there....but Dead Presidents? C'MON..... The Starboard down?, The Bottle and Cork Down?, Klondike Kate's down?, The Lobby House down?.....
The Deer Park and the Logan House are pretty iconic....so I don't have any problem with them there....but Dead Presidents? C'MON..... The Starboard down?, The Bottle and Cork Down?, Klondike Kate's down?, The Lobby House down?.....
shake zula
Footballguy
Chili's down?
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Anyone?
Wooderson
Fight The Power
Came to post the same thing. A guy I know use to work there would get free food and beer. Just a great mellow place to hang out.
Super King
Footballguy
All the New York bars are in NYC. There is about 20 million people in this state that live north and west of NYC.
Hammered Finz
Footballguy
This list is pooh.. No Key West bars?
buster c
Footballguy
one of my top favorites
Mac's Club Deuce
222 14th Street
Miami Beach, Florida
305-531-6200
Presumably, you are in Miami because you are looking for trouble. At the Deuce, you will have a very good time finding it. If you've ever wanted to really feel the pulp, if you've ever wanted to get noir, like all night long, then you're going to want to get yourself Deuced. There is, of course, a pool table. It turns from friendly to sharkish depending on who and how you play. There's a jukebox, too. It's filled with all the up-to-no-good classics. Finally, though, there is the bar itself, a striking horseshoe design that allows you to keep one eye on your drink and one eye on everybody in the joint. That'll come in handy when Cameron Diaz comes in for a little late-night slumming. Or when trouble comes looking for you.
Mac's Club Deuce
222 14th Street
Miami Beach, Florida
305-531-6200
Presumably, you are in Miami because you are looking for trouble. At the Deuce, you will have a very good time finding it. If you've ever wanted to really feel the pulp, if you've ever wanted to get noir, like all night long, then you're going to want to get yourself Deuced. There is, of course, a pool table. It turns from friendly to sharkish depending on who and how you play. There's a jukebox, too. It's filled with all the up-to-no-good classics. Finally, though, there is the bar itself, a striking horseshoe design that allows you to keep one eye on your drink and one eye on everybody in the joint. That'll come in handy when Cameron Diaz comes in for a little late-night slumming. Or when trouble comes looking for you.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
and what about Coyote Ugly in NYC? That bar was kicking in that movie.
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
Footballguy
Surprisingly, they didn't do that badly for Cali and Co. Not well-researched I'd say but a decent job actually.
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Green Mill in Chicago is a great choice for this list.
zander_s
Footballguy
zander_s
Footballguy
I tried.....could be a day of formatting!!! John D McGurks is the only St Louis bar listed.
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Nipsey
Footballguy
videoguy505 said:Missing Hungry Charleys of Syracuse NY,
So many memories, so long ago. We had a crazy friend steal a pool stick by sliding it down his pant leg and up his shirt to under his arm pit. Remember watching him try to walk up the stairs past the bouncers. Great stuff. Watching bouncers tackling him out in the alley knowing we had no pool table and he had no possible reason to own a pool cue was a top 5 college moment. "Why did you do it?" the bouncers asked him. Response: "It felt like the right thing to do."
buster c
Footballguy
maybe this deserves its own thread ("best dive bar") but here's another SoBe fave that is not listed - a true national treasure. and a classic review:
http://bestof.miaminewtimes.com/bestof/awa...8&year=2006
Best Dive Bar: On the Rocks Sports Bar
217 NW 71st Street
Miami Beach 33141
305-864-2444
Even those blessed with an ironclad constitution will find themselves hacking from the stench of spilled booze and cigarette smoke ripening this dimly lighted joint. And that's while standing on the sidewalk before venturing inside.
This seedy storefront establishment may not be much to look at, and those tarantulas and hedgehogs displayed in the pet-shop window next door do pass for kissing kin to regulars at the watering hole, but then you ask yourself: Why is it always packed? Hungry? Forget about it. Feel like dancing? Stay away. Lost the job and want to drown your sorrows with that last ten spot before hitting the skids? Cheer up -- the hooch fairy always smiles on the piss broke at this throwback paradise for the down and out.
Best of all, this dive is open 21 hours a day. Day in and day out the Rock serves up three well drinks or domestic beers for five bucks a batch until 8:00 p.m. and at a cheaper-than-fuel $2.50 each after that.
The place draws a mixed crowd -- from your pickled zombies, to your natty business dudes stretching the budget to make alimony payments, to the rare fading beauty scoping you out with her twitchy come-hither gaze. A half-dozen TV sets and sports fans ready to scrap over stats at the blow of a whistle keep the din deafening. An occasional raid or a panhandler cozying up for a free beer adds to the decidedly skeevy charm.
It's difficult to think of anywhere else in town where you can be a good sport and buy a stranger a round with your last dime, and maybe for all the down-at-the-heels patina, that's why the Rock keeps reeling them in.
http://bestof.miaminewtimes.com/bestof/awa...8&year=2006
Best Dive Bar: On the Rocks Sports Bar
217 NW 71st Street
Miami Beach 33141
305-864-2444
Even those blessed with an ironclad constitution will find themselves hacking from the stench of spilled booze and cigarette smoke ripening this dimly lighted joint. And that's while standing on the sidewalk before venturing inside.
This seedy storefront establishment may not be much to look at, and those tarantulas and hedgehogs displayed in the pet-shop window next door do pass for kissing kin to regulars at the watering hole, but then you ask yourself: Why is it always packed? Hungry? Forget about it. Feel like dancing? Stay away. Lost the job and want to drown your sorrows with that last ten spot before hitting the skids? Cheer up -- the hooch fairy always smiles on the piss broke at this throwback paradise for the down and out.
Best of all, this dive is open 21 hours a day. Day in and day out the Rock serves up three well drinks or domestic beers for five bucks a batch until 8:00 p.m. and at a cheaper-than-fuel $2.50 each after that.
The place draws a mixed crowd -- from your pickled zombies, to your natty business dudes stretching the budget to make alimony payments, to the rare fading beauty scoping you out with her twitchy come-hither gaze. A half-dozen TV sets and sports fans ready to scrap over stats at the blow of a whistle keep the din deafening. An occasional raid or a panhandler cozying up for a free beer adds to the decidedly skeevy charm.
It's difficult to think of anywhere else in town where you can be a good sport and buy a stranger a round with your last dime, and maybe for all the down-at-the-heels patina, that's why the Rock keeps reeling them in.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
That bar sucks. It was cool in college and is surrounded by about 3 dozen cooler bars in walking distance.
massraider
Footballguy
Pretty good for Mass and NYC as well.
The ones I can comment on:
No. 9 Park--Haven't been for a while, but they had great bar staff then, and they had a great cocktail list. Very skilled bartenders, and very good food, one of my favorite restaurants in the city. Low-key, never jammed, a great restaurant bar, but more of a date spot than a meat market.
Eastern Standard--Right around the corner from Fenway, it's not a baseball bar. Very decent American food, and the bar is a great scene. great little patio out front, with overhead heaters in the cool weather. Great bar staff (some from No. 9 Park, in fact). If I had been making this list, I would have definitely included this bar. Good pick-up joint.
Charlie's Kitchen--The only decent dive bar in Harvard Square, with famous cheeseburgers (that aren't that great, but whatever), and a decent number of TV's playing sports. Old school, crappy, non-HD TV's. Extra bar upstairs, where, if you know the bartender, you can pretty much do whatever you want. A solid choice on this list.
B-Side Lounge--I know why this one made the list, but it shouldn't have. Opened in Cambridge a while back, it became the industry hang-out for all the Cambridge bar and restaurant staffs. Overrated food, fluorescent light bouncing off the green paint, and self-important surly bartenders that were way too proud of themselves for opening a PBR tallboy. is up for sale, the owner has some tax trouble, it has seen better days.
New York:
The Saloon--Having a martini in the basement of Grand Central is something everyone should do. And I don't even drink martinis.
The Angel's Share--A spot for classic cocktail snobs. A little upstairs bar, you have to walk through a restaurant to get to it, it has cozy little banquettes, cool DJ's spinning loungy stuff, and Chinese bartenders making cocktails like it was 1935. has a speakeasy-type vibe. Great place for two couple to go after dinner.
Pegu Club--Another cocktail lovers dream. Probably make the best drinks in the city, not the place to order a Goose and Red Bull. Their drink list is impressive. For purists.
PJ Clarke's--There's probably a hundred joints on the East Side that are as good a choice as this one, but this one is a good choice. The do pour a fantastic Guinness.
Flatiron Lounge--Very much a scene, but they take their drinks seriously. Drink list is not as good as Pegu, but it's good. Hot women in suits.
The ones I can comment on:
No. 9 Park--Haven't been for a while, but they had great bar staff then, and they had a great cocktail list. Very skilled bartenders, and very good food, one of my favorite restaurants in the city. Low-key, never jammed, a great restaurant bar, but more of a date spot than a meat market.
Eastern Standard--Right around the corner from Fenway, it's not a baseball bar. Very decent American food, and the bar is a great scene. great little patio out front, with overhead heaters in the cool weather. Great bar staff (some from No. 9 Park, in fact). If I had been making this list, I would have definitely included this bar. Good pick-up joint.
Charlie's Kitchen--The only decent dive bar in Harvard Square, with famous cheeseburgers (that aren't that great, but whatever), and a decent number of TV's playing sports. Old school, crappy, non-HD TV's. Extra bar upstairs, where, if you know the bartender, you can pretty much do whatever you want. A solid choice on this list.
B-Side Lounge--I know why this one made the list, but it shouldn't have. Opened in Cambridge a while back, it became the industry hang-out for all the Cambridge bar and restaurant staffs. Overrated food, fluorescent light bouncing off the green paint, and self-important surly bartenders that were way too proud of themselves for opening a PBR tallboy. is up for sale, the owner has some tax trouble, it has seen better days.
New York:
The Saloon--Having a martini in the basement of Grand Central is something everyone should do. And I don't even drink martinis.
The Angel's Share--A spot for classic cocktail snobs. A little upstairs bar, you have to walk through a restaurant to get to it, it has cozy little banquettes, cool DJ's spinning loungy stuff, and Chinese bartenders making cocktails like it was 1935. has a speakeasy-type vibe. Great place for two couple to go after dinner.
Pegu Club--Another cocktail lovers dream. Probably make the best drinks in the city, not the place to order a Goose and Red Bull. Their drink list is impressive. For purists.
PJ Clarke's--There's probably a hundred joints on the East Side that are as good a choice as this one, but this one is a good choice. The do pour a fantastic Guinness.
Flatiron Lounge--Very much a scene, but they take their drinks seriously. Drink list is not as good as Pegu, but it's good. Hot women in suits.
The Tick
Footballguy
The list for Austin is a JOKE. I guess the author just loves dive bars with crappy beer. Any review that suggests you go in and have a cold pitcher of Lone Star or a can of Schlitz, is basically one i'm ignoring. Wanted to look through more but after seeing the austin choices, i'm done with this list.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
This place could be good but it actually sucks. Sure, if you want the bartender to do a nice acting job while taking 7 minutes to make your drink, I guess that's cool with some people. The whole thing seemed really pretentious to me however and I prefer efficiency.
drummer
Footballguy
I always recommend Zeitgeist when people ask me what bar to go to in SF. Sunday afternoon, on a nice sunny day, out in the back patio eating burgers, home fries, and tamales (from the Tamale Lady), listening to punk rock, drinking excessively into the early evening, to start my drunken Mission pub crawl. I used to hang out at Vesuvio in North Beach in the early days when I first moved to SF, but now I go to Mr Bing's to knock out a few cheap drinks, cross the street to Specs (behind the Jazz Club) for a few pints of Guinness (with a Jameson neat on the side), maybe head over to the Crowbar to see if any young strumpets are hanging out there, then head up to Grant and Green, or maybe O'Reilly's Pub. Then, if I'm still standing upright, maybe head over to Fiddler's Green. Good times man. Good times.edit: If you're ever at Zeitgeist, order a Bloody Mary. They're awesome.
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krista4
Footballguy
They did a great job on the Chicago bars. The Matchbox, California Clipper, Hideout, Hopleaf, and Chipp Inn are all great, too, and most of them not really well-known.
massraider
Footballguy
Like I said, for purists. The whole bartender mixology thing is part of the show there. Definitely not for everyone.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Purists just want to get drunk. They could care less about those shenanigans.
massraider
Footballguy
We're using a different definition of 'purist'.
Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
I'm talking about purists, you are talking about ### clowns.
I have to disagree, sitting at one of the upstairs window side tables facing the corner of Columbus and Broadway, drinking a pint of Anchor Steam watching the world pass by is one of my favorite ways to spend a Saturday in the city. I love the eclectic mix of people, really adds to the vibe.
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Jefferson the Caregiver
Rebel Without A Pause
Toronado is the best bar in San Francisco.
denveredge
Footballguy
The Office Bar in Hoonah Alaska is a dump, the town is a hole. Not sure way someone went there and found it to be good. I was there to help pick up a friends boat and we were going to stay the night in town. It was so crappy we got in the boat and moored new Juneau just to get away.
The malemute saloon in Ester and the Howling dog saloon in Fox being left off the list for Alaska speaks volumes on how crapping this list is.
The malemute saloon in Ester and the Howling dog saloon in Fox being left off the list for Alaska speaks volumes on how crapping this list is.
videoguy505
Footballguy
:X So many memories, so long ago. We had a crazy friend steal a pool stick by sliding it down his pant leg and up his shirt to under his arm pit. Remember watching him try to walk up the stairs past the bouncers. Great stuff. Watching bouncers tackling him out in the alley knowing we had no pool table and he had no possible reason to own a pool cue was a top 5 college moment. "Why did you do it?" the bouncers asked him. Response: "It felt like the right thing to do."videoguy505 said:Missing Hungry Charleys of Syracuse NY,
massraider
Footballguy
Well, OK.
Workhorse
Footballguy
Love Charlie's but I haven't set foot back in there after ALCS Game 7, 2003. Bad mojo.
drummer
Footballguy
It's ok, but not one of my favorites in the Lower Haight. I like Mad Dog in the Fog across the street better. The Noc-Noc is a funky bar, but there are a lot of young ladies there. The bar near the Spaghetti Western (the Uptown?), and An Bodran is another before I choose the Toronado. My favorite bar in the Upper Haight was the old Nightbreak, especially Sushi Sundays. Live bands from 3pm to 11pm, Sushi, and hot ladies with tattoos who would beat me at pool. Then, go next door to Murio's, which is still there, but it ain't nothing now, as opposed to when the Nightbreak was open.
Nipsey
Footballguy
Back in the day the SU student ID had your DOB on it. Chucks was one of the few places that honored it as an actual ID even if the guy in the picture looked nothing like you and the ID was almost a decade old. I know it closed and reopened a few times since I've been there but it used to be downstairs. Still there?videoguy505 said:Missing Hungry Charleys of Syracuse NY,
Link please?!I also like "The Hotel" right by the Cal-train station. Always a fun time there and always a good place to drink before Giants games.
See, now I just want to jump on the train at Hillsdale at lunch and drink my way around SF.
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