BIG RUMOR.....McNabb to the Dolpins. (1 Viewer)

[eoMMan]

Some guy heard another guy on a Bluetooth phone in the CVS by the Eagles stadium on Sunday say something like, "This is so from the Dolphins." He then said something about McNabb and a press conference.

Could be nothing....could be something. Just letting you know.

 

[LILB811]

Heard the same thing. Guess we'll have to wait and see

 

[ooofffaaa]

I've seen no mention of this on any Dolphins board I frequent - and they usually do not miss anything.

What would McNabb cost in terms of draft picks?

 

[JaxBill]

Any trade would have to wait until after the Super Bowl, right?

I can't picture a rebuilding team like the Dolphins giving up draft picks for a 30+ QB.

 

[Warhogs]

I guess anything is possible but I too don't see why a team that finished dead last in the NF:L would trade away what it would take to bring in McNabb.

 

[Jason Wood]

 

[ooofffaaa]

A.J. Feeley

Daunte Culpepper

Trent Green

Can the Dolphins PLEASE stop giving up draft picks for older, coming off injury QB's ???

 

[Couch Potato]

There's nothing here: http://www.trademcnabb.com/

 

[Slider]

The 1st pick in the second round sounds about right.

 

[massraider]

The 1st pick in the second round sounds about right.

Well, if it's a QB to the Fins, a 2nd round pick is pretty much a lock, no?

 

[Ripleys]

no way McNabb is worth the first pick in the 2nd round. NO WAY. 4th round sounds more realistic for a QB that can't play 16 games in a year.

 

[JAA]

no way McNabb is worth the first pick in the 2nd round. NO WAY. 4th round sounds more realistic for a QB that can't play 16 games in a year.

You think McNabb is worth less than Feely?lol3rd seems right. Maybe include Jason Taylor

 

[ooofffaaa]

no way McNabb is worth the first pick in the 2nd round. NO WAY. 4th round sounds more realistic for a QB that can't play 16 games in a year.

You think McNabb is worth less than Feely?lol3rd seems right. Maybe include Jason Taylor

Maybe we can also throw Ronnie Brown into the deal to get it done.

 

[JAA]

no way McNabb is worth the first pick in the 2nd round. NO WAY. 4th round sounds more realistic for a QB that can't play 16 games in a year.

You think McNabb is worth less than Feely?lol3rd seems right. Maybe include Jason Taylor

Maybe we can also throw Ronnie Brown into the deal to get it done.

Joking aside, lots of trades in the NFL (and sports today) are more about money management than acquiring talent.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

this doesnt seem like a parcells move

Didnt hear the rumor, but usually radio talk hosts come up with stuff like this to generate calls

 

[ShadowMaster]

no way McNabb is worth the first pick in the 2nd round. NO WAY. 4th round sounds more realistic for a QB that can't play 16 games in a year.

You think McNabb is worth less than Feely?lol3rd seems right. Maybe include Jason Taylor

I'm sure we are going to let Jason go to the Pats. Might be trade or out-right release, but that fits the recent pattern for Miami player development. Maybe Zak too.

 

[JaxBill]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

 

[az_prof]

I don't think it makes sense but if it is I can't imagine he would go for less than a second round pick, and that would be a steal. Do you think you will draft a better QB in the second round? Try Beck...

 

[Mr. Chumley]

no way McNabb is worth the first pick in the 2nd round. NO WAY. 4th round sounds more realistic for a QB that can't play 16 games in a year.

You're right of course but when has that ever stoped the Dolphins from giving up a second round pick for qb?

 

[fred_1_15301]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

Don't the Eagles have like 12 picks this year? Aren't they the ones trying to trade their picks to move up? They would be absurd to trade McNabb at this point. This means that it will probably happen though.....

 

[sparkky]

I don't think Philly is ready to "blow things up" and start over with a new qb. they aren't that far from a playoff team.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Some guy heard another guy on a Bluetooth phone in the CVS by the Eagles stadium on Sunday say something like, "This is so from the Dolphins." He then said something about McNabb and a press conference.Could be nothing....could be something. Just letting you know.

Why would a PC exist when the trade can't happen for at least two more weeks?

 

[redman]

this doesnt seem like a parcells move

Didnt hear the rumor, but usually radio talk hosts come up with stuff like this to generate calls

 

[JAA]

IIRC, this is the offseason to trade McNabb due to his contract structure. If it doesnt happen this offseason, dont expect it to.

 

[Getinthemix]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

The Welker pick was last year and used it on Samson Satele from Hawaii

 

[Marc Levin]

this doesnt seem like a parcells moveDidnt hear the rumor, but usually radio talk hosts come up with stuff like this to generate calls

Actually, the rumor has legs because it IS a Parcells move. Bringing in a veteran at QB is the expected move and bringin in McNabb silences any talk of using a high pick on a QBThat said, McNabb's kind of decision-making, lack of accuracy, and tendency towards injury is not the kind of player Parcells likes in his veteran QBs. If he goes this direction for a veteran QB, I keep seeing Steve McNair's name in my head. Otherwise, I think Parcells sticks with what he's got and brings in a guy with Vinny T's brain (or Vinny T himself) as a QB coach.

 

[JAA]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

The Welker pick was last year and used it on Samson Satele from Hawaii

SOD

 

[Marc Levin]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

Don't the Eagles have like 12 picks this year? Aren't they the ones trying to trade their picks to move up? They would be absurd to trade McNabb at this point. This means that it will probably happen though.....

McNabb plus a buttload of picks for the 'phins #1 overall or for their top of the 2nd round.Boom. Trade rumor.That said, I don't see it happening. I'll say what I said in the JJ thread - how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

 

[ooofffaaa]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

The Welker pick was last year and used it on Samson Satele from Hawaii

SOD

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not but Satele could be their starting center for the next 10 years - he had a very impressive rookie year.

 

[Jason Wood]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

Don't the Eagles have like 12 picks this year? Aren't they the ones trying to trade their picks to move up? They would be absurd to trade McNabb at this point. This means that it will probably happen though.....

Exactly, if anything the Eagles will be looking to deal picks this year to move up and/or acquire veterans.And this notion that McNabb isn't worth a high 2nd? 1) The Eagles wouldn't let him go for that2) He's worth decidedly more than Daunte Culpepper or A.J. Feeley, both of which garnered 2nd round picks3) I don't know how this deal would work from a salary cap perspective, the Dolphins are going to have to commit big upfront $$$ to the 1st overall pick (presuming they keep it) and are more than one player away from contending

 

[redman]

this doesnt seem like a parcells moveDidnt hear the rumor, but usually radio talk hosts come up with stuff like this to generate calls

Actually, the rumor has legs because it IS a Parcells move. Bringing in a veteran at QB is the expected move and bringin in McNabb silences any talk of using a high pick on a QBThat said, McNabb's kind of decision-making, lack of accuracy, and tendency towards injury is not the kind of player Parcells likes in his veteran QBs. If he goes this direction for a veteran QB, I keep seeing Steve McNair's name in my head. Otherwise, I think Parcells sticks with what he's got and brings in a guy with Vinny T's brain (or Vinny T himself) as a QB coach.

I think Brian Billick keeps seeing Steve McNair's name in his head too, but it's not because he's still a viable starter. It is interesting though - there really aren't a lot of veteran QB's who occur to you as good candidates to bring in to a Parcells team. Let's not forget that Parcells wasn't afraid to use a high #1 draft pick on a QB when his Pats team needed one. I keep going back to my initial reaction, which was the same as bss's - this doesn't seem like a Parcells move

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I called a friend of mine that works in the Eagles FO and told him this rumor. He laughed.

That being said, JAA is right about this being the time to trade McNabb. He already recieved all the guarenteed money he's going to see in this contract, so the cap hit will be minimal.

 

[Marc Levin]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

The Welker pick was last year and used it on Samson Satele from Hawaii

SOD

So far, he's been the best Dolphin draft pick of the last three drafts.

 

[Jayrod]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

 

[Marc Levin]

this doesnt seem like a parcells moveDidnt hear the rumor, but usually radio talk hosts come up with stuff like this to generate calls

Actually, the rumor has legs because it IS a Parcells move. Bringing in a veteran at QB is the expected move and bringin in McNabb silences any talk of using a high pick on a QBThat said, McNabb's kind of decision-making, lack of accuracy, and tendency towards injury is not the kind of player Parcells likes in his veteran QBs. If he goes this direction for a veteran QB, I keep seeing Steve McNair's name in my head. Otherwise, I think Parcells sticks with what he's got and brings in a guy with Vinny T's brain (or Vinny T himself) as a QB coach.

I think Brian Billick keeps seeing Steve McNair's name in his head too, but it's not because he's still a viable starter. It is interesting though - there really aren't a lot of veteran QB's who occur to you as good candidates to bring in to a Parcells team. Let's not forget that Parcells wasn't afraid to use a high #1 draft pick on a QB when his Pats team needed one. I keep going back to my initial reaction, which was the same as bss's - this doesn't seem like a Parcells move

I agree - just different perspective on the term "Pareclls move." Bringin in a vet QB = Parcells move. That vet being McNabb = not a Parcells move.

 

[JAA]

Did Parcells bring in a Vet to Dallass?

hmmm

 

[redman]

this doesnt seem like a parcells move

Didnt hear the rumor, but usually radio talk hosts come up with stuff like this to generate calls

Actually, the rumor has legs because it IS a Parcells move. Bringing in a veteran at QB is the expected move and bringin in McNabb silences any talk of using a high pick on a QBThat said, McNabb's kind of decision-making, lack of accuracy, and tendency towards injury is not the kind of player Parcells likes in his veteran QBs. If he goes this direction for a veteran QB, I keep seeing Steve McNair's name in my head. Otherwise, I think Parcells sticks with what he's got and brings in a guy with Vinny T's brain (or Vinny T himself) as a QB coach.

I think Brian Billick keeps seeing Steve McNair's name in his head too, but it's not because he's still a viable starter. It is interesting though - there really aren't a lot of veteran QB's who occur to you as good candidates to bring in to a Parcells team. Let's not forget that Parcells wasn't afraid to use a high #1 draft pick on a QB when his Pats team needed one.

I keep going back to my initial reaction, which was the same as bss's - this doesn't seem like a Parcells move

I agree - just different perspective on the term "Pareclls move." Bringin in a vet QB = Parcells move. That vet being McNabb = not a Parcells move.

 

[Marc Levin]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

For what, 12 weeks? IMO, McNabb dos not improve the team - he becomes the focal point of the offense, as opposed to the running game, and it is fitting a square peg into a round hole. Exactly what folks said when we brought in Green and Culpepper (better starting QB than what they have). And that is stinkin' thinkin' (<<gg>> sorry)."Better athlete at starting QB" is not what they need. "specific type of QB to run the new system" is what they need. And there is nothing to make me think the two guys they have can't run a system.They need a veteran in case neither of these guys works out, but McNabb 'aint that vet. A Trent Dilfer/Jeff George - even Byron Leftwich - is the guy they need. Not McNabb.

 

[Marc Levin]

Did Parcells bring in a Vet to Dallass?hmmm

Drew Bledsoe down?ETA: Testaverde, too.

 

[redman]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

For what, 12 weeks? IMO, McNabb dos not improve the team - he becomes the focal point of the offense, as opposed to the running game, and it is fitting a square peg into a round hole. Exactly what folks said when we brought in Green and Culpepper (better starting QB than what they have). And that is stinkin' thinkin' (<<gg>> sorry)."Better athlete at starting QB" is not what they need. "specific type of QB to run the new system" is what they need. And there is nothing to make me think the two guys they have can't run a system.They need a veteran in case neither of these guys works out, but McNabb 'aint that vet. A Trent Dilfer/Jeff George - even Byron Leftwich - is the guy they need. Not McNabb.

What system exactly is Sparano going to run? Do we even know this yet?

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

As I see it Parcells has these options:1. Stick with Beck / Lemon and hope one of the two improves to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL.2. Draft one and wait and hope he pans out.3. Trade for one. Options would seem to beennington.WarnerDerek AndersonCulpepperLosmanMcNabbWith tradable older commodities like Jason Taylor and Zach already on the roster, I would certainly think getting a veteran QB would be exactly the way to go. Taylor + the second rounder the phins got from SD for McNabb would make sense to me.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

This is ridiculous. The Eagles won't win with Kolb or Feeley at the helm next year. They very well could win with McNabb. There's no indication that they are going to rebuild. He's not going anywhere.

 

[Marc Levin]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

For what, 12 weeks? IMO, McNabb dos not improve the team - he becomes the focal point of the offense, as opposed to the running game, and it is fitting a square peg into a round hole. Exactly what folks said when we brought in Green and Culpepper (better starting QB than what they have). And that is stinkin' thinkin' (<<gg>> sorry)."Better athlete at starting QB" is not what they need. "specific type of QB to run the new system" is what they need. And there is nothing to make me think the two guys they have can't run a system.They need a veteran in case neither of these guys works out, but McNabb 'aint that vet. A Trent Dilfer/Jeff George - even Byron Leftwich - is the guy they need. Not McNabb.

What system exactly is Sparano going to run? Do we even know this yet?

No., but I would guess a Parcells influenced system. Accuracy (McNabb is a lifetime 58.6% passer) is important, as is reliability (McNabb hasn't completed a 16 game season in quite a while). McNabb wouldn't be bad for the 'phins, and if Parcells goes after him. Fine. In Parcells I trust. But, unless they plan to build the O around him, why bring him in? Now, as I mentioned, a trade rumor of McNabb plus picks for the 'phins second rounder or #1 overall could build legs - everyone knows the 'phins are better off trading out of the #1 overall and gaining McNabb, plus a mid-1st, plus some more picks, might be palatable.

 

[Jayrod]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

For what, 12 weeks? IMO, McNabb dos not improve the team - he becomes the focal point of the offense, as opposed to the running game, and it is fitting a square peg into a round hole. Exactly what folks said when we brought in Green and Culpepper (better starting QB than what they have). And that is stinkin' thinkin' (<<gg>> sorry)."Better athlete at starting QB" is not what they need. "specific type of QB to run the new system" is what they need. And there is nothing to make me think the two guys they have can't run a system.They need a veteran in case neither of these guys works out, but McNabb 'aint that vet. A Trent Dilfer/Jeff George - even Byron Leftwich - is the guy they need. Not McNabb.

What system exactly is Sparano going to run? Do we even know this yet?

And why couldn't McNabb, a more talented QB with more tools, be taught to run the system well? He's better than Green, better than Beck, better than Lemon at almost every phase of the game (except for maybe accuracy compared to Green, but is he even going to be cleared to play?).So McNabb might miss a couple of games. What's to say none of the other guys wouldn't either.Now if you don't think he's the best they can do in the market, than that's another story, but he is a drastic improvement over anyone on their roster regardless of scheme.

 

[Jason Wood]

Can we stop talking about this like the Dolphins have the option here?

 

[Marc Levin]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

As I see it Parcells has these options:1. Stick with Beck / Lemon and hope one of the two improves to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL.2. Draft one and wait and hope he pans out.3. Trade for one. Options would seem to beennington.WarnerDerek AndersonCulpepperLosmanMcNabbWith tradable older commodities like Jason Taylor and Zach already on the roster, I would certainly think getting a veteran QB would be exactly the way to go. Taylor + the second rounder the phins got from SD for McNabb would make sense to me.

Good list - add Leftwich to the list. I don't think the Cards will give up Warner. Derek Anderson is intriguing. The 'phins could also sign a retired QB (Plummer available?).Anyway, I am convinced the team will address QB with a Vet somehow. But, McNabb seems like the wrong fit for parcells.

 

[redman]

how does bringing in McNabb improve the Dolphins?

By having a better starting quarterback than anyone on their current roster?

As I see it Parcells has these options:1. Stick with Beck / Lemon and hope one of the two improves to be a starting caliber QB in the NFL.2. Draft one and wait and hope he pans out.3. Trade for one. Options would seem to beennington.WarnerDerek AndersonCulpepperLosmanMcNabbWith tradable older commodities like Jason Taylor and Zach already on the roster, I would certainly think getting a veteran QB would be exactly the way to go. Taylor + the second rounder the phins got from SD for McNabb would make sense to me.

Of all the ones listed there, I'd say Anderson comes the closest to fitting the bill, but he's awfully young to be referring to as a "veteran QB" the way that term tends to be used with Parcells.

 

[CYP]

Im sure this is all bunk, please, someone heard so and so say so and so.

 

[Couch Potato]

This is ridiculous. The Eagles won't win with Kolb or Feeley at the helm next year. They very well could win with McNabb. There's no indication that they are going to rebuild. He's not going anywhere.

People love rumors. It brings them out of th woodwork to post all sorts of nonsense. Most of those who run with these things have no sense of what they're talking about, but it "seems" to be plausible. So they take some vague rumor of some guy saying something to some other guy, and are now deciding what pick the trade is going to be for. The whole thing is ridiculous. This isn't going to happen folks. Go back over the last couple months and do a little research before you believe this nonsense. The Eagles aren't trading McNabb.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Not that I believe the rumor, but for grins and giggles, the Dolphins do have a couple of extra second rounders from Chris Chambers and Welker.

Don't the Eagles have like 12 picks this year? Aren't they the ones trying to trade their picks to move up? They would be absurd to trade McNabb at this point. This means that it will probably happen though.....

If the Eagles wnat to move up then the Dolphins give the Eagles that chance?maybe a deal with draft picks and Mcnabb?