Big Ten Basketball 2022/2023 - Return to Power (1 Viewer)

[Ilov80s]

Michigan has an interesting game against Bucknell. I don't think Bucknell is all that bad and UM has a lot of reshuffling to do after losing 5 guys to the NBA over the last 2 years.

 

[phatdawg]

I just looked at 3 NBA mocks and they had Levert at 6, 17 and 10...didn't see either Gopher going in the first 2 rounds. I firmly stand by the UM backcourt.

Gopher homer here and I'd take Levert over either of the Gophers.

I had high hopes for Hollins when he burst on to the scene as a freshman, but he just hasn't delivered on his potential. He's a nice guard, don't get me wrong, but he needs a killer instinct to assert himself offensively to get him to the next level, but I don't see it enough.

Mathieu is bi-polar. He can absolutely take over games when he is aggressive, but there will be games where you wonder what he is even bringing to the table.

I didn't think the idea that Levert was the best guard in the Big10 was very controversial. The Big 10 BBall Beat writers did their preseason polls here and Levert received the 3rd most votes. There wasn't a single Gopher to get a vote.

http://btn.com/2014/10/15/beat-writers-all-big-ten-basketball-team-and-predicted-standings/

It's odd that the guy from Michigan (Bredan Quinn, from mlive) didn't pick LeVert. He had Walton on his list, however.

I like the Yogi Ferrell & James Blackmon Jr. backcourt personally, but it's hard to argue with LeVert & Walton.

 

[Ilov80s]

"You just can't stop Bielfeldt". Words I never thought I would hear.

 

[Eviloutsider]

Dekker beefed up some.

 

[Frostillicus]

Both Gopher guards could be better than LeVert. If I had to pick one of the the three though I'm going LeVert.

I also think there's a good chance the best backcourt is Indiana, but it might not matter depending on what they get out of the front court.

 

[The General]

Hoosiers with the win!

First IU game I have been able to watch this year. That front court is so thin, but man this Blackmon kid can fill it up. Did not look like a Freshman.

 

[Garrett]

i started the back court debate, so I'll at least add to it.

It's not a player; it's a duo.

And I am not counting anything until we see some BIG10 conference play.

 

[Ilov80s]

It's might be a tough year for Michigan, especially the first half. There are a lot of young players that need to contribute and they just aren't ready yet. I think UM finishes around 5 in the Big 10, but could improve on it if the youngsters develop.

 

[phatdawg]

Hoosiers with the win!

First IU game I have been able to watch this year. That front court is so thin, but man this Blackmon kid can fill it up. Did not look like a Freshman.

Yep, Blackmon can flat out score. The frontcourt is ridiculously thin. They could use Devin Davis right now ... or Luke Fisher if he had not transferred.

 

[strykerpks]

Uh oh, Nigel Hayes is developing a 3 point shot.

 

[urbanhack]

Purdue is 3-0!

 

[phatdawg]

Purdue is 3-0!

Haven't played anyone yet. They will get some good competition in Maui, however. I think Purdue is being significantly underrated in the Big Ten this year. Most places I have seen them picked to finish between 11-13. I think they will be in the middle of the pack and make the tournament.

 

[The General]

Hoosiers with the win!

First IU game I have been able to watch this year. That front court is so thin, but man this Blackmon kid can fill it up. Did not look like a Freshman.

Yep, Blackmon can flat out score. The frontcourt is ridiculously thin. They could use Devin Davis right now ... or Luke Fisher if he had not transferred.

Watching the game I kept thinking this was their "small" lineup. Nobody big ever came in.

Perea looked quite a bit better but still looks like he has to think about everything. Really hope him playing tons of minutes will allow him to improve.

Williams looks crazy one minute and great the next guess that's just what he's going to be.

That kid who transferred from Illinois was lighting it up also, liked what I was seeing there. Looks like he can do everything moderately well.

Don't have a ton of confidence in Crean being able to make adjustments, so when they are hitting 3's this team will be fun to watch but I'd think they are going to be a lot of games though where they just get abused.

Nobody is really picking them to make the tournament so getting in this year would be really nice.

 

[Frostillicus]

Uh oh, Nigel Hayes is developing a 3 point shot.

Someone needs to put a stop to this.

 

[whoknew]

It's might be a tough year for Michigan, especially the first half. There are a lot of young players that need to contribute and they just aren't ready yet. I think UM finishes around 5 in the Big 10, but could improve on it if the youngsters develop.

They will be ok. They have 3 top line players in LeVert, Irvin, and Walton. The freshman just need to fill roles. Where they will hurt is at the 5. But luckily, there are not too many teams that have dominant, back to the basket big men.

 

[The Commish]

It's might be a tough year for Michigan, especially the first half. There are a lot of young players that need to contribute and they just aren't ready yet. I think UM finishes around 5 in the Big 10, but could improve on it if the youngsters develop.

They will be ok. They have 3 top line players in LeVert, Irvin, and Walton. The freshman just need to fill roles. Where they will hurt is at the 5. But luckily, there are not too many teams that have dominant, back to the basket big men.

Horford appears to be making the most of it at Florida this year...good for him.

 

[strykerpks]

Uh oh, Nigel Hayes is developing a 3 point shot.

Someone needs to put a stop to this.

I can't see him attempting a ton of them, nor hitting 45% or anything crazy. But having that threat is nice.

 

[whoknew]

Purdue getting hammered by Kansas State.

Matt Painter's chair is getting warm.

 

[whoknew]

Purdue getting hammered by Kansas State.

Matt Painter's chair is getting warm.

Boilers starting to make this interesting.

 

[phatdawg]

Purdue getting hammered by Kansas State.

Matt Painter's chair is getting warm.

Boilers starting to make this interesting.

The Foster kid is out of his mind. Deep 3s, including one that he banked in.

Purdue is a work in progress, but they are so young and I think they will improve throughout the season.

 

[Ilov80s]

It's might be a tough year for Michigan, especially the first half. There are a lot of young players that need to contribute and they just aren't ready yet. I think UM finishes around 5 in the Big 10, but could improve on it if the youngsters develop.

They will be ok. They have 3 top line players in LeVert, Irvin, and Walton. The freshman just need to fill roles. Where they will hurt is at the 5. But luckily, there are not too many teams that have dominant, back to the basket big men.

Exactly, they will be ok.

 

[sho nuff]

Uh oh, Nigel Hayes is developing a 3 point shot.

Scary thought for other teams...guys growing a few inches over the summer and now 2 big men that can shoot.

 

[The General]

Watching IU play, the team can really shoot. The Freshman are all good. They are so tiny though. If only Vonleh would have stayed.

 

[The General]

And Hoosiers lose to Eastern Washington. Going to get blasted in the Big 10 by every team that has any player taller than 6'8".

 

[Ilov80s]

This UM-Oregon game is fun, talk about fast paced action.

 

[RCon]

Terps weren't great tonight, but managed to join the party. Dez Wells continued a trend from last year of slow starts, then picking it up in the second. Melo Trimble, wow. Wasn't a traditional point guard tonight, but put up 31, including 13-14 from the line. Overall, not great, but good.

Oh, and hey there. I'll miss the old conference, but football season has felt "bigger" than it has in ages. I'm hoping basketball will be just as exciting.

 

[The Commish]

Terps weren't great tonight, but managed to join the party. Dez Wells continued a trend from last year of slow starts, then picking it up in the second. Melo Trimble, wow. Wasn't a traditional point guard tonight, but put up 31, including 13-14 from the line. Overall, not great, but good.

Oh, and hey there. I'll miss the old conference, but football season has felt "bigger" than it has in ages. I'm hoping basketball will be just as exciting.

First thing you'll notice is there's no Ripwoodapeleys in this thread, so you're already winning

 

[Ilov80s]

Wolverines will need to be on from the 3 point line to handle Nova tonight. UM can't handle the size down low.

 

[whoknew]

Terps weren't great tonight, but managed to join the party. Dez Wells continued a trend from last year of slow starts, then picking it up in the second. Melo Trimble, wow. Wasn't a traditional point guard tonight, but put up 31, including 13-14 from the line. Overall, not great, but good.

Oh, and hey there. I'll miss the old conference, but football season has felt "bigger" than it has in ages. I'm hoping basketball will be just as exciting.

Good lead on Iowa State so far. Would be a good win if they can hold on.

 

[r0llin_game]

And Hoosiers lose to Eastern Washington. Going to get blasted in the Big 10 by every team that has any player taller than 6'8".

Hanner looked good in the first two games. Ever since the SMU game, he's looked soft, out of position, bites on every pump fake, and just hasn't been good. They need him to contribute on the glass and defensive side or this team is going to be in major trouble.

 

[Ilov80s]

Michigan is really missing Horford. Anyone know why he transferred?

 

[Ilov80s]

Wow, 2nd half and UM going to the line for the first time. Coming into the game, UM had about 15 more FTs made than opponents had attempts.

 

[Ilov80s]

24-5 run

Michigan has to be near the top in basketball assists per basket. I'm not sure why teams keep trying to trap and press Michigan. We play like 3-4 guards at a time.

 

[The General]

And Hoosiers lose to Eastern Washington. Going to get blasted in the Big 10 by every team that has any player taller than 6'8".

Hanner looked good in the first two games. Ever since the SMU game, he's looked soft, out of position, bites on every pump fake, and just hasn't been good. They need him to contribute on the glass and defensive side or this team is going to be in major trouble.

I agree he looked a lot better than last year early on. He can jump out of the gym and but plays so stiff and I swear he's skinnier than he was as a freshman.

I didn't think he was too bad last 2 games just think he's over his skis. He would be a great guy to have coming off the bench, starting though I think he is going to really get abused in Big 10. Wisconsin big men are going to eat him alive. Going to be some serious growing pains for him.

They got no one else though.

 

[Ilov80s]

This is being played at NCAA tourney level.

 

[Ilov80s]

Wow what a block! Good game Nova.

 

[r0llin_game]

That was a fun game.

 

[Ilov80s]

That was a fun game.

Yep. Two good teams going hard early in the year. It's going to be fun season.

 

[Frostillicus]

24-5 run

Michigan has to be near the top in basketball assists per basket. I'm not sure why teams keep trying to trap and press Michigan. We play like 3-4 guards at a time.

81st coming into tonight. Pretty solid.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Terps weren't great tonight, but managed to join the party. Dez Wells continued a trend from last year of slow starts, then picking it up in the second. Melo Trimble, wow. Wasn't a traditional point guard tonight, but put up 31, including 13-14 from the line. Overall, not great, but good.

Oh, and hey there. I'll miss the old conference, but football season has felt "bigger" than it has in ages. I'm hoping basketball will be just as exciting.

Good lead on Iowa State so far. Would be a good win if they can hold on.

That was a nice win for the Terps. Seems like it's been forever since they beat a ranked team OOC.

Hopefully, Turgeon can keep some of THESE players instead of having 8 of them transfer after this season.

 

[Ilov80s]

24-5 run

Michigan has to be near the top in basketball assists per basket. I'm not sure why teams keep trying to trap and press Michigan. We play like 3-4 guards at a time.

81st coming into tonight. Pretty solid.

Actually fell after last night in that stat. When they are playing well, it's happening. Not as much as I thought.

 

[Garrett]

Terps weren't great tonight, but managed to join the party. Dez Wells continued a trend from last year of slow starts, then picking it up in the second. Melo Trimble, wow. Wasn't a traditional point guard tonight, but put up 31, including 13-14 from the line. Overall, not great, but good.

Oh, and hey there. I'll miss the old conference, but football season has felt "bigger" than it has in ages. I'm hoping basketball will be just as exciting.

Good lead on Iowa State so far. Would be a good win if they can hold on.

That was a nice win for the Terps. Seems like it's been forever since they beat a ranked team OOC.

Hopefully, Turgeon can keep some of THESE players instead of having 8 of them transfer after this season.

Impressive win for Maryland; Iowa State looked a bit out of sync defensively, but that is a great tournament resume win for the Terps.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Terps weren't great tonight, but managed to join the party. Dez Wells continued a trend from last year of slow starts, then picking it up in the second. Melo Trimble, wow. Wasn't a traditional point guard tonight, but put up 31, including 13-14 from the line. Overall, not great, but good.

Oh, and hey there. I'll miss the old conference, but football season has felt "bigger" than it has in ages. I'm hoping basketball will be just as exciting.

Good lead on Iowa State so far. Would be a good win if they can hold on.

That was a nice win for the Terps. Seems like it's been forever since they beat a ranked team OOC.

Hopefully, Turgeon can keep some of THESE players instead of having 8 of them transfer after this season.

Impressive win for Maryland; Iowa State looked a bit out of sync defensively, but that is a great tournament resume win for the Terps.

They get a really good UVA team in the BT/ACC Challenge. Off the top of my head, that's the only resume-builder they have left before B1G play starts.

edit: they also play Okla St in late Dec

 

[RCon]

Yup, UVA and OK St. left. Great win last night, and good to see Nickens and Wiley contribute. Iowa St. had a late run until they committed that flagrant foul on Layman with 90 seconds left. It was weird; he didn't even attempt to pretend he was making a basketball play, just shoved him.

Tough one for the Wolverines. Nova is really good.

 

[The Commish]

For as young as they are, this Michigan team played well together last night. They'll only get better.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Yup, UVA and OK St. left. Great win last night, and good to see Nickens and Wiley contribute. Iowa St. had a late run until they committed that flagrant foul on Layman with 90 seconds left. It was weird; he didn't even attempt to pretend he was making a basketball play, just shoved him.

Tough one for the Wolverines. Nova is really good.

I'm still trying to recognize who's who on the Terps. I've seen so little so far that everyone besides, Dez, Surfer Jake, and Dodd are strangers.

Speaking of Dodd, how has he looked to you Rich? Last year, he barely played. Has the light bulb come on?

 

[Synthesizer]

For as young as they are, this Michigan team played well together last night. They'll only get better.

I was really impressed with the way they responded in the 2nd half. Nova was completely shutting them down, they had missed 12 straight shots, and burned 3 timeouts in 25 seconds. Then went on a 16-3 run.

Beilein's coaching is ahead of the curve as usual. It's still ridiculous that the rules changes force post defenders to stick both arms up in the air. The offensive player now has all of the leverage and can just bang his way down until he's right under the hoop. Beilein has his guys taking as much of that as they can until they eventually fall over and take the charge. Guarantee they are taught how to do that during practice.

 

[RCon]

Yup, UVA and OK St. left. Great win last night, and good to see Nickens and Wiley contribute. Iowa St. had a late run until they committed that flagrant foul on Layman with 90 seconds left. It was weird; he didn't even attempt to pretend he was making a basketball play, just shoved him.

Tough one for the Wolverines. Nova is really good.

I'm still trying to recognize who's who on the Terps. I've seen so little so far that everyone besides, Dez, Surfer Jake, and Dodd are strangers.Speaking of Dodd, how has he looked to you Rich? Last year, he barely played. Has the light bulb come on?

Much improved. Definitely a shot blocker/alterer. Rebounds OK, hands are closer to Padgett than Jordan Williams, though. If he gets it down low, he can score now and then. Better than Cleare ever was. Definite potential. Cekovsky will be better, though.I've only seen these two, though. Our cable company took away ESPN3, so I haven't been able to see the earlier games. Gonna have to switch to DirecTV, looks like.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Terps playing Monmouth tonight. It's my first real look at them so far.

Boy, Melo Trimble looks like a star

 

[RCon]

I think that was an example of the importance of continuity. Dez isn't the best, but not having him at all disrupted the offense quite a bit. Not sure what's wrong with Pack, but I think he hasn't hit a shot in three games.