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Biggest Fantasy Disappointment in 2012? (1 Viewer)

Biggest Fantasy Disappointment in 2012?

  • Ryan Mathews

    Votes: 119 33.0%
  • Darren McFadden

    Votes: 87 24.1%
  • DeMarco Murray

    Votes: 11 3.0%
  • Maurice Jones-Drew

    Votes: 20 5.5%
  • Greg Jennings

    Votes: 6 1.7%
  • Larry Fitzgerald

    Votes: 64 17.7%
  • Michael Vick

    Votes: 12 3.3%
  • Philip Rivers

    Votes: 10 2.8%
  • Antonio Gates

    Votes: 20 5.5%
  • OTHER (please specify)

    Votes: 12 3.3%

  • Total voters
    361
Fitz

I'm not surprised, but the combination of talent, work ethic and prior years of production combines to get my vote.

Maybe he's just the guy I feel the worst for.

 
I can't see how it isn't Fitz, he was going late first/ high second, with someone like DMC you knew the injury history and should have been prepared, the whole offseason all we heard was "fitz will get his" and "it doesnt matter who throws in ARZ"

 
Should have injured players on this list. Of course if they are out a month or two they are going to disappoint. Mathews since his return wins this hands down IMO - really not close.

And Newton might be coming off the list at the right time for owners still alive (I traded for him). He's looked great the last few weeks and has scored accordingly. Can't believe how much his accuracy has turned around in the past month. He was missing simple down and outs by 5 yards earlier in the year, horrendous footwork, and now he's putting bombs right on the money. Could wins some teams SuperBowls.

 
'Raider Nation said:
'Awful Waffle said:
Shout out to Brandon Lloyd. He may not be the biggest disappointment, but he should get his name called. By somebody.
Excellent call. I knew I forgot someone obvious.He's been a disaster.
Was waiting for someone to mention this bum. For where this guy was going, to what he has produced while being healthy every game, 100% pure bust.
 
'Raider Nation said:
'Chazzhawk said:
It hurts to say this cause I love the way the guy plays but it is Fitzgerald. When someone gets hurt it is hard to call them a disaster in my eyes.
If you can't blame someone for getting hurt, it seems unfair to blame Fitz for being an Arizona Cardinal.Put him on one of about 20 other teams, and he's a 1,300 yard guy with double-digit TDs.
But he isn't on any other team and he managed 1400 yards and 10 tds with crappy quarterbacks last year, making owners think he is matchup and quarterback proof. No one can predict injuries they can happen to anyone.At least when someone is hurt you have a chance at their back up and you HAVE to start someone else, when they are healthy you feel like you almost have to play them because where you drafted them. If you bench him and he goes off it sucks, if you start him and he sucks it sucks. There is no way to win.
 
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Considering where they were drafted and the expectations, you could add Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham. Rodgers had a handful of great games but lots of mediocre ones.Graham missed several games to injury, had a case of the drops, and had a few so-so games.
Not even close as of right now before tomorrows game Rodgers is 2nd in scoring for quarterbacks and Graham is 4th for tight ends.
 
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My first 3 draft picks are on that list. McFadden, Mathews, Vick. I hate them all. I consider McFadden the biggest bust, but I have the most contempt for Mathews and entire San Diego organization.

 
All those guys are good choices. Gates killed me in the leagues that I drafted him.

I think you need to add Chris Johnson to the list, since by the time that he started to produce decent numbers, he pretty much killed your team.

 
The popular picks are justifiable going to be first rounders or high second picks, but Gates has been brutal. A lot of people rated him at the top of the tier behind Gronk/Graham, and he looked like a decent value pick around the 5th or 6th. Putrid.

 
Little surprised at the Dmac hate. He had two real bad games in the first 8 that he played and then he got hurt week 9. He did have a couple 20 point games mixed in there. That said Dmac has always gotten way to much hype on this board for some reason.

Gates has obviously been a bust but he was a 5th/6th round pick, I had him on a couple teams and just stopped starting him long ago. Thats no big deal imo...

 
McFadden shouldn't be given an out because he got hurt. The injury probably helped his fantasy owners, not having to continue starting him. Same can't be said for Fitzgerald

 
I can't say Larry Fitz, as I was very wary of him with the AZ QB situation.

Shady McCoy, now that guy pretty much sunk one of my teams. Maybe I was expecting too much. The worst part is that Philly finally decided to run the ball more after he got hurt.

In general, Matthews has been a huge disappointment.

 
Considering where they were drafted and the expectations, you could add Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham. Rodgers had a handful of great games but lots of mediocre ones.Graham missed several games to injury, had a case of the drops, and had a few so-so games.
This post is ridiculous. Rodgers is top 5 in all of my leagues. Just because he's at 25PPG instead of the ridiculously unsustainable 32PPG of last year doesn't qualify him as anywhere near the disappointment of anyone on that list. Same deal with Graham. He's 3rd in PPG for TEs and has had only 3 games under 10 points in PPR. What are you expecting from these guys? McFadden/Mathews are the obvious disappointments. Both hailed as late first round picks in "pro mock drafts" they are 20th and 27th in RB PPG. And that's only when they've played. Just awful. Fitz is up there as well but it's easier to replace a WR than it is to replace a RB, so I still vote one of the first two. Mathews had more hype and performed worse than McFadden so he's gotta be the number 1 disappointment.
 
Considering where they were drafted and the expectations, you could add Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham.



Rodgers had a handful of great games but lots of mediocre ones.

Graham missed several games to injury, had a case of the drops, and had a few so-so games.
:goodposting:
 
Everyone is interpreting this question as: "Which one of these underperforming players on this list do you have on your fantasy team?"

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
Cam Newton went as high as the 1st round in some QB heavy leagues I compete in.

Julio Jones will not get a lot of votes but he snuck into the late 1st, he's not even int he top 12 on the season.

DeMarco Murray was also a 1st round RB in several leagues.
I have all of these on one team. :kicksrock:
 
'meyerj31 said:
'just_want_2_win said:
Considering where they were drafted and the expectations, you could add Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham.

Rodgers had a handful of great games but lots of mediocre ones.

Graham missed several games to injury, had a case of the drops, and had a few so-so games.
This post is ridiculous. Rodgers is top 5 in all of my leagues. Just because he's at 25PPG instead of the ridiculously unsustainable 32PPG of last year doesn't qualify him as anywhere near the disappointment of anyone on that list. Same deal with Graham. He's 3rd in PPG for TEs and has had only 3 games under 10 points in PPR. What are you expecting from these guys?

McFadden/Mathews are the obvious disappointments. Both hailed as late first round picks in "pro mock drafts" they are 20th and 27th in RB PPG. And that's only when they've played. Just awful. Fitz is up there as well but it's easier to replace a WR than it is to replace a RB, so I still vote one of the first two. Mathews had more hype and performed worse than McFadden so he's gotta be the number 1 disappointment.
I can list a lot of players that were disappointments this year to some extent due to injury, underachievement, or both: McFadden, Mathews, MJD, Murray, Fitz, Nicks, Gates, Cam, Garcon, McCoy, Chris Johnson, Greg Jennings, etc. Here are Graham's stat lines:

<pre>Week Opp Result Target Rec Yard Avg TD FFPts1 WAS L 32-40 10 6 85 14.2 1 14.52 at CAR L 27-35 13 7 71 10.1 1 13.13 KC L 24-27 8 4 16 4.0 1 7.64 at GB L 27-28 9 7 76 10.9 0 7.65 SD W 31-24 2 1 4 4.0 0 0.48 at DEN L 14-34 10 5 63 12.6 1 12.39 PHI W 28-13 11 8 72 9.0 1 13.210 ATL W 31-27 8 7 146 20.9 2 26.611 at OAK W 38-17 6 6 29 4.8 1 8.912 SF L 21-31 6 4 33 8.3 0 3.313 at ATL L 13-23 6 4 59 14.8 0 5.9</pre>Stats courtesy of http://www.fftoday.com/stats/players/11505/Jimmy_Graham?LeagueID=17I see six games with subpar stats and two missed games. Graham's ADP according to MFL (http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2012/adp) was 13. He was taken ahead of the likes of Adrian Petersen, Lynch, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Stevan Ridley, and Doug Martin. Would those who took him in the early 2nd round or in the 1st round really think he lived up to the draft position and the opportunity cost of bypassing other players for him? Graham's last three games during this crucial part of the season haven't been anything to write home about.

As for Rodgers, his ADP was 2. Here are his stats:

<pre>Week Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yard TD INT Att Yard Avg TD FFPts1 SF L 22-30 30 44 68.2 303 2 1 5 27 5.4 0 21.82 CHI W 23-10 22 32 68.8 219 1 1 3 -6 -2.0 0 11.23 at SEA L 12-14 26 39 66.7 223 0 0 2 17 8.5 0 10.64 NO W 28-27 31 41 75.6 319 4 1 5 13 2.6 0 29.15 at IND L 27-30 21 33 63.6 243 3 1 5 57 11.4 0 26.46 at HOU W 42-24 24 37 64.9 338 6 0 2 17 8.5 0 39.27 at STL W 30-20 30 37 81.1 342 3 0 2 0 0.0 0 25.78 JAC W 24-15 22 35 62.9 186 2 0 3 4 1.3 0 13.89 ARI W 31-17 14 30 46.7 218 4 1 8 33 4.1 0 27.011 at DET W 24-20 19 27 70.4 236 2 1 1 3 3.0 0 16.712 at NYG L 10-38 14 25 56.0 219 1 1 3 22 7.3 0 12.013 MIN W 23-14 27 35 77.1 286 1 1 4 15 3.8 0 15.9</pre>Four of Rodgers' last 5 games haven't been stellar and two of his first three weren't great either. You could've drafted RG3, Ryan, Peyton, or Luck far lower and gotten better or nearly the same production.Neither guy is a total flop by any means but as I said earlier, given their ADP and the expectations affixed to each, their production is disappointing, especially here in the stretch run of the FF season.

 
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'meyerj31 said:
'just_want_2_win said:
Considering where they were drafted and the expectations, you could add Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham.

Rodgers had a handful of great games but lots of mediocre ones.

Graham missed several games to injury, had a case of the drops, and had a few so-so games.
This post is ridiculous. Rodgers is top 5 in all of my leagues. Just because he's at 25PPG instead of the ridiculously unsustainable 32PPG of last year doesn't qualify him as anywhere near the disappointment of anyone on that list. Same deal with Graham. He's 3rd in PPG for TEs and has had only 3 games under 10 points in PPR. What are you expecting from these guys?

McFadden/Mathews are the obvious disappointments. Both hailed as late first round picks in "pro mock drafts" they are 20th and 27th in RB PPG. And that's only when they've played. Just awful. Fitz is up there as well but it's easier to replace a WR than it is to replace a RB, so I still vote one of the first two. Mathews had more hype and performed worse than McFadden so he's gotta be the number 1 disappointment.
I can list a lot of players that were disappointments this year to some extent due to injury, underachievement, or both: McFadden, Mathews, MJD, Murray, Fitz, Nicks, Gates, Cam, Garcon, McCoy, Chris Johnson, Greg Jennings, etc. Here are Graham's stat lines:

<pre>Week Opp Result Target Rec Yard Avg TD FFPts1 WAS L 32-40 10 6 85 14.2 1 14.52 at CAR L 27-35 13 7 71 10.1 1 13.13 KC L 24-27 8 4 16 4.0 1 7.64 at GB L 27-28 9 7 76 10.9 0 7.65 SD W 31-24 2 1 4 4.0 0 0.48 at DEN L 14-34 10 5 63 12.6 1 12.39 PHI W 28-13 11 8 72 9.0 1 13.210 ATL W 31-27 8 7 146 20.9 2 26.611 at OAK W 38-17 6 6 29 4.8 1 8.912 SF L 21-31 6 4 33 8.3 0 3.313 at ATL L 13-23 6 4 59 14.8 0 5.9</pre>Stats courtesy of http://www.fftoday.com/stats/players/11505/Jimmy_Graham?LeagueID=17I see six games with subpar stats and two missed games. Graham's ADP according to MFL (http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2012/adp) was 13. He was taken ahead of the likes of Adrian Petersen, Lynch, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Stevan Ridley, and Doug Martin. Would those who took him in the early 2nd round or in the 1st round really think he lived up to the draft position and the opportunity cost of bypassing other players for him? Graham's last three games during this crucial part of the season haven't been anything to write home about.

As for Rodgers, his ADP was 2. Here are his stats:

<pre>Week Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yard TD INT Att Yard Avg TD FFPts1 SF L 22-30 30 44 68.2 303 2 1 5 27 5.4 0 21.82 CHI W 23-10 22 32 68.8 219 1 1 3 -6 -2.0 0 11.23 at SEA L 12-14 26 39 66.7 223 0 0 2 17 8.5 0 10.64 NO W 28-27 31 41 75.6 319 4 1 5 13 2.6 0 29.15 at IND L 27-30 21 33 63.6 243 3 1 5 57 11.4 0 26.46 at HOU W 42-24 24 37 64.9 338 6 0 2 17 8.5 0 39.27 at STL W 30-20 30 37 81.1 342 3 0 2 0 0.0 0 25.78 JAC W 24-15 22 35 62.9 186 2 0 3 4 1.3 0 13.89 ARI W 31-17 14 30 46.7 218 4 1 8 33 4.1 0 27.011 at DET W 24-20 19 27 70.4 236 2 1 1 3 3.0 0 16.712 at NYG L 10-38 14 25 56.0 219 1 1 3 22 7.3 0 12.013 MIN W 23-14 27 35 77.1 286 1 1 4 15 3.8 0 15.9</pre>Four of Rodgers' last 5 games haven't been stellar and two of his first three weren't great either. You could've drafted RG3, Ryan, Peyton, or Luck far lower and gotten better or nearly the same production.Neither guy is a total flop by any means but as I said earlier, given their ADP and the expectations affixed to each, their production is disappointing, especially here in the stretch run of the FF season.
:loco: you could play that game all day long with any player pretty much. Graham has been great in my ppr league....
 
Gotta be DMC or Demarco. At least Mathews has played most of the games. He can't help the play calling and poor oline play.

Honorable mention (and I'm sure it won't be popular): Julio Jones

He was supposed to challenge for WR1

 
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'meyerj31 said:
'just_want_2_win said:
Considering where they were drafted and the expectations, you could add Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy Graham.

Rodgers had a handful of great games but lots of mediocre ones.

Graham missed several games to injury, had a case of the drops, and had a few so-so games.
This post is ridiculous. Rodgers is top 5 in all of my leagues. Just because he's at 25PPG instead of the ridiculously unsustainable 32PPG of last year doesn't qualify him as anywhere near the disappointment of anyone on that list. Same deal with Graham. He's 3rd in PPG for TEs and has had only 3 games under 10 points in PPR. What are you expecting from these guys?

McFadden/Mathews are the obvious disappointments. Both hailed as late first round picks in "pro mock drafts" they are 20th and 27th in RB PPG. And that's only when they've played. Just awful. Fitz is up there as well but it's easier to replace a WR than it is to replace a RB, so I still vote one of the first two. Mathews had more hype and performed worse than McFadden so he's gotta be the number 1 disappointment.
I can list a lot of players that were disappointments this year to some extent due to injury, underachievement, or both: McFadden, Mathews, MJD, Murray, Fitz, Nicks, Gates, Cam, Garcon, McCoy, Chris Johnson, Greg Jennings, etc. Here are Graham's stat lines:

<pre>Week Opp Result Target Rec Yard Avg TD FFPts1 WAS L 32-40 10 6 85 14.2 1 14.52 at CAR L 27-35 13 7 71 10.1 1 13.13 KC L 24-27 8 4 16 4.0 1 7.64 at GB L 27-28 9 7 76 10.9 0 7.65 SD W 31-24 2 1 4 4.0 0 0.48 at DEN L 14-34 10 5 63 12.6 1 12.39 PHI W 28-13 11 8 72 9.0 1 13.210 ATL W 31-27 8 7 146 20.9 2 26.611 at OAK W 38-17 6 6 29 4.8 1 8.912 SF L 21-31 6 4 33 8.3 0 3.313 at ATL L 13-23 6 4 59 14.8 0 5.9</pre>Stats courtesy of http://www.fftoday.com/stats/players/11505/Jimmy_Graham?LeagueID=17I see six games with subpar stats and two missed games. Graham's ADP according to MFL (http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2012/adp) was 13. He was taken ahead of the likes of Adrian Petersen, Lynch, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, Percy Harvin, Stevan Ridley, and Doug Martin. Would those who took him in the early 2nd round or in the 1st round really think he lived up to the draft position and the opportunity cost of bypassing other players for him? Graham's last three games during this crucial part of the season haven't been anything to write home about.

As for Rodgers, his ADP was 2. Here are his stats:

<pre>Week Opp Result Cmp Att Cmp% Yard TD INT Att Yard Avg TD FFPts1 SF L 22-30 30 44 68.2 303 2 1 5 27 5.4 0 21.82 CHI W 23-10 22 32 68.8 219 1 1 3 -6 -2.0 0 11.23 at SEA L 12-14 26 39 66.7 223 0 0 2 17 8.5 0 10.64 NO W 28-27 31 41 75.6 319 4 1 5 13 2.6 0 29.15 at IND L 27-30 21 33 63.6 243 3 1 5 57 11.4 0 26.46 at HOU W 42-24 24 37 64.9 338 6 0 2 17 8.5 0 39.27 at STL W 30-20 30 37 81.1 342 3 0 2 0 0.0 0 25.78 JAC W 24-15 22 35 62.9 186 2 0 3 4 1.3 0 13.89 ARI W 31-17 14 30 46.7 218 4 1 8 33 4.1 0 27.011 at DET W 24-20 19 27 70.4 236 2 1 1 3 3.0 0 16.712 at NYG L 10-38 14 25 56.0 219 1 1 3 22 7.3 0 12.013 MIN W 23-14 27 35 77.1 286 1 1 4 15 3.8 0 15.9</pre>Four of Rodgers' last 5 games haven't been stellar and two of his first three weren't great either. You could've drafted RG3, Ryan, Peyton, or Luck far lower and gotten better or nearly the same production.Neither guy is a total flop by any means but as I said earlier, given their ADP and the expectations affixed to each, their production is disappointing, especially here in the stretch run of the FF season.
Great post and I agree 100%. Fitzgerald and Matthews are bigger busts, but Rodgers has had a very disappointing season based on his prior years stats and projections in 2012. Going into this week's game against Minnesota he was the #15 QB in yards per game. And that likely got worse.
 
It's easily Mathews.

McFadden was not a surprise at all because look at his history. I still cant believe people saw him as a first round pick. What he put up was an EXPECTED season from him.

 
Greg Zuerlein :kicksrock:
^ QFT, he started slumping even though I kept believing :(
Cam Newton went as high as the 1st round in some QB heavy leagues I compete in.

Julio Jones will not get a lot of votes but he snuck into the late 1st, he's not even int he top 12 on the season.

DeMarco Murray was also a 1st round RB in several leagues.
I really can't understand why anyone drafted Julio over Roddy, even with the hypeI wanna vote Mathews, but he dropped in our league, because no one believed the hype/trusted the injury, so I have to go with Fitz (did fine with garbage QBs last year, Run DMC is always banged up it seems)

 
This was easy for me, Mathews.

Injury aside, people thought he'd come back and beast it.

DMC still has time to prove himself a fantasy asset in the playoffs.

Fitz was dropping down boards consistently, people were onto the putrid situation in ARI.

 
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Went Matthews. McFadden got hurt - which should have been expected.

Fitz had just horrible , horrible QB play. I mean Who'da thunk we'd be beggin for kolb to be back?

Matthews just flat out sucks right now. Yeah team issues, line issues... Whatever. Just absolutely pathetic

 
fitz by a mile imo, more so because it's not him sucking. mathews already sucked before this year, his constant injuries just masked that fact. for that reason i can see why people are disappointed with him more than the others listed.

 
Cam Newton went as high as the 1st round in some QB heavy leagues I compete in.

Julio Jones will not get a lot of votes but he snuck into the late 1st, he's not even int he top 12 on the season.

DeMarco Murray was also a 1st round RB in several leagues.
Cam finished QB4. Julio finished WR9. Sure they didn't live up to some of our expectations but they didn't cost you a league. If you get that performance out of a bust, I'll take that any day. Real disappointments are Fitz who finished as WR41. Jennings (WR74), Vick (QB27), Matthews (RB31) or DMC (RB28). Those were guys who could kill your season before it started unless you drafted very well besides them.

 
Jon Baldwin: Preseason hype + draft position + years in league should account for numbers better than 20-325 1TD

 
while he wasn't the biggest disappointment by any stretch,Tom Brady didn't produce relative to his projected statline for 2012 - remember, in countless threads, many people projected him for 5000/55..he finished with 4827/34, 5 tds less than last year, 25.5 yards less/gm than last year, and a 7 pt drop in rate. I realize Brady still had a very good season,but many people bought into the hype that Joshy McD. was going to replicate the 2007 Pats offense.. :no:

Eli Manning was a HUGE disappointment...

Matthew Stafford.

R. Gronkowski..relative to his early 1st round draft position, Gronk failed to live up to expectations, once again getting hurt..despite the 11 tds, he only managed 55 recs,790 yards, 12.1 ypg less than 2011..

can't really say McFadden given his injury-riddled past, you knew what you were getting if you drafted him. same with Mathews.

Julio Jones floudered.

for all the preseason love that Torrey Smith received,he was a total bust..

as an entity,the Jets Defense disappointed.

Vernon Davis

Joe Flacco - the preseason hype had 2012 as his 'breakout' year..he fizzled, throwing for just 2 more tds than 2011, and roughly 200 more yards..

for those using IDP scoring, Giants D-line was one of, if not the biggest disappointments of the 2012 season..what happened? :shrug:

 
Eli Manning - 8 weerks of single digit scoring just killed me! Still only missed the championship by a missed field goal. Idiot kicker!!! If eli would have been only average, I would have run away with the league!

 
while he wasn't the biggest disappointment by any stretch,Tom Brady didn't produce relative to his projected statline for 2012 - remember, in countless threads, many people projected him for 5000/55..he finished with 4827/34, 5 tds less than last year, 25.5 yards less/gm than last year, and a 7 pt drop in rate. I realize Brady still had a very good season,but many people bought into the hype that Joshy McD. was going to replicate the 2007 Pats offense.. :no:

Eli Manning was a HUGE disappointment...

Matthew Stafford.

R. Gronkowski..relative to his early 1st round draft position, Gronk failed to live up to expectations, once again getting hurt..despite the 11 tds, he only managed 55 recs,790 yards, 12.1 ypg less than 2011..

can't really say McFadden given his injury-riddled past, you knew what you were getting if you drafted him. same with Mathews.

Julio Jones floudered.

for all the preseason love that Torrey Smith received,he was a total bust..

as an entity,the Jets Defense disappointed.

Vernon Davis

Joe Flacco - the preseason hype had 2012 as his 'breakout' year..he fizzled, throwing for just 2 more tds than 2011, and roughly 200 more yards..

for those using IDP scoring, Giants D-line was one of, if not the biggest disappointments of the 2012 season..what happened? :shrug:
That is just nonsense.Non-ppr single digit scoring weeks from the top 10 WRs:

Calvin: 5

Dez: 8

Marshall: 6

D Thomas: 6

AJ Green: 7

V Jackson: 8

Andre Johnson: 9

Decker: 8

Julio: 7

Roddy: 8

Only once did Julio go back to back in single digit performances. Average single digit games out of the top 10 WRs was 7.2.

Top to bottom average ppg difference between the top 10 was just over 2.5ppg. As a point of reference the spread for QBs was 7.5ppg, RBs 6.2ppg, TEs 6.5ppg.

There's a lot of candidates for biggest disappointments. Julio is almost as far from that list as possible...

 
It's easily Mathews. McFadden was not a surprise at all because look at his history. I still cant believe people saw him as a first round pick. What he put up was an EXPECTED season from him.
Because nobody expected Mathews to get hurt? He's as brittle as DMC if not more so.
 

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