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I've had lots of people over the years tell me they wanted to find a fantasy football league that was:

  • Reasonable entry fee
  • Safe and secure
  • Made up of GMs as into it as they are
The reality is those can be hard to find for lots of people. Maybe your local home league is changing. Or you want to play for more (or less) entry fee than they want to have. Finding people you don't have any experience with online to host a league can be uncertain.

The big contests are fun but with a zillion people vying for a huge prize, it can feel like a lottery.

I think people are looking for something more like a regular home league.

So we have something cooking there...
 
I’m listening…. :)

Stay tuned.

I'm super excited about this.

The scoring and format will be exactly the same as the Footballguys Bowl so research and work for one will apply to the others.

You also will have the ability to join leagues with people you want to play against. You can't request it but you can find a league that is open on the lobby and a group can join at the same time to get in the same league.
 
Personally I'm not interested because I've taken back my Sunday's for the most part via BB/DraftnGo and DFS. That said, I've been beating the drum for years that FBGs does something like this. It's a huge opportunity to profit on a different line of business for your company. You can tell by the way you run the free FBG contests that you have a handle on managing something like this. More importantly, the trust and integrity are beyond reproach. Lastly, you are very engaging with customers. Impressed how you often say we are open to suggestions but may or may not be able to implement based on demand or business reason. The guy who over the FBG partnership contest years back was a real jerk to anyone who had a critique of his contest. Along those lines, you are one of the best and taking criticism in a positive manner. I hope you do this and are very successful with it.
 
Personally I'm not interested because I've taken back my Sunday's for the most part via BB/DraftnGo and DFS. That said, I've been beating the drum for years that FBGs does something like this. It's a huge opportunity to profit on a different line of business for your company. You can tell by the way you run the free FBG contests that you have a handle on managing something like this. More importantly, the trust and integrity are beyond reproach. Lastly, you are very engaging with customers. Impressed how you often say we are open to suggestions but may or may not be able to implement based on demand or business reason. The guy who over the FBG partnership contest years back was a real jerk to anyone who had a critique of his contest. Along those lines, you are one of the best and taking criticism in a positive manner. I hope you do this and are very successful with it.

Thank you GB.

It's very much in line with the Footballguys Bowl in it's a community and experience built so people can use our product of a Premium Subscription.

I've used the analogy of a skateboard company building a skatepark and I think it fits.

It's not much of a moneymaker. We'll pay back in prizes about 80% of all the money that comes in. And we'll split any profit with the people at LeagueSafe and Sportshub that manage everything. By the time you pay people to handle things and pay the hefty compliance / regulatory fees that come with an above the board contest operator like this, it's not much money. You have to get to a big scale and remove the human element to make money. Like Best Ball or DFS. But that's ok.

BUT this DOES bring a fun element of community into play. And there will be lots of opportunities to expand and get better at this. I can see it moving to more a "match.com for fantasy football leagues" where we get specific about placing teams in leagues they want to be in. By geography or favorite team or such. And it's a great way to get visibility for our Premium Content for all the people who come into it not from our Footballguys audience.
 
Had a feeling that the FBG Bowl was the first step in something bigger.

Having joined 1 FFPC league that’s filled with SharkPool regulars, it definitely makes it more fun and engaging of a league to have the other owners be people you “know” from this message board.
 
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I've had lots of people over the years tell me they wanted to find a fantasy football league that was:

  • Reasonable entry fee
  • Safe and secure
  • Made up of GMs as into it as they are
The reality is those can be hard to find for lots of people. Maybe your local home league is changing. Or you want to play for more (or less) entry fee than they want to have. Finding people you don't have any experience with online to host a league can be uncertain.

The big contests are fun but with a zillion people vying for a huge prize, it can feel like a lottery.

I think people are looking for something more like a regular home league.

So we have something cooking there...
I am possibly interested in this.
 
I've been in dozens of leagues spawned from this board and have enjoyed every single one of them.
I don't even care what the parameters are- it'll be great, I'm sure, and I'd love to participate
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
Dude cmon! I PayPal'd you $. Now trade me Mahomes for Malik Willis and shush! 😁

Everyone or most everyone from here has been in a zillion leagues and we'd all pretty much know. It would take a pretty big fool to try and "get one past" a group from this board and I highly doubt anyone would do it.
 
Personally I'm not interested because I've taken back my Sunday's for the most part via BB/DraftnGo and DFS. That said, I've been beating the drum for years that FBGs does something like this. It's a huge opportunity to profit on a different line of business for your company. You can tell by the way you run the free FBG contests that you have a handle on managing something like this. More importantly, the trust and integrity are beyond reproach. Lastly, you are very engaging with customers. Impressed how you often say we are open to suggestions but may or may not be able to implement based on demand or business reason. The guy who over the FBG partnership contest years back was a real jerk to anyone who had a critique of his contest. Along those lines, you are one of the best and taking criticism in a positive manner. I hope you do this and are very successful with it.

Thank you GB.

It's very much in line with the Footballguys Bowl in it's a community and experience built so people can use our product of a Premium Subscription.

I've used the analogy of a skateboard company building a skatepark and I think it fits.

It's not much of a moneymaker. We'll pay back in prizes about 80% of all the money that comes in. And we'll split any profit with the people at LeagueSafe and Sportshub that manage everything. By the time you pay people to handle things and pay the hefty compliance / regulatory fees that come with an above the board contest operator like this, it's not much money. You have to get to a big scale and remove the human element to make money. Like Best Ball or DFS. But that's ok.

BUT this DOES bring a fun element of community into play. And there will be lots of opportunities to expand and get better at this. I can see it moving to more a "match.com for fantasy football leagues" where we get specific about placing teams in leagues they want to be in. By geography or favorite team or such. And it's a great way to get visibility for our Premium Content for all the people who come into it not from our Footballguys audience.
Love this. Obviously many sites do this, but would be great if FBG did it.

I do the yahoo bestball ones, and they are decent, but only 10 man leagues. They return 90% of the buy ins in prize money. Fantrax does the same thing, with anywhere from 88-92% prize pay back, so I think the industry standard is around 90% (Leaguesafe doesn't charge anything, as they make their profits through ad revenue, as well as investing all the money they hold for half a year and profiting the large amounts of interest). I really don't like the Fantrax platform though, and think FBG can obviously do it better.

Would you have these as bestball contests or would you allow adds/drops? That's where things get a little hairy of course, as you can get people 'teaming up' and dropping a good player when their friend has top waiver priority/bid money. Hard to manage and referee that kinda stuff too.

Just my 2 cents though. Would definitely be interested.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
I'm sure it would be no trade leagues.

In terms of waivers, per my prior post, things could get a little sketchy... .the most obvious way to avoid that is just bestball leagues, but not sure if FBG is looking at more of a season long commitment type thing or just bestball draft and forget it.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?

That's always a concern.

The upside is being able to join a league with friends. The downside is it's possible there could be collusion.

We're partnering with our friends at SafeLeagues run by Scott Fish and they have a lot of experience in this and they do a great job. If something seems like obvious collusion, they get involved.
 
I'm too invested in National Contests at this time, to manage a Team in a manner that would be respectable to the League...

...but I would gladly attend, and facilitate, any and all live drafts anywhere close to my general vicinity.
 
Personally I'm not interested because I've taken back my Sunday's for the most part via BB/DraftnGo and DFS. That said, I've been beating the drum for years that FBGs does something like this. It's a huge opportunity to profit on a different line of business for your company. You can tell by the way you run the free FBG contests that you have a handle on managing something like this. More importantly, the trust and integrity are beyond reproach. Lastly, you are very engaging with customers. Impressed how you often say we are open to suggestions but may or may not be able to implement based on demand or business reason. The guy who over the FBG partnership contest years back was a real jerk to anyone who had a critique of his contest. Along those lines, you are one of the best and taking criticism in a positive manner. I hope you do this and are very successful with it.

Thank you GB.

It's very much in line with the Footballguys Bowl in it's a community and experience built so people can use our product of a Premium Subscription.

I've used the analogy of a skateboard company building a skatepark and I think it fits.

It's not much of a moneymaker. We'll pay back in prizes about 80% of all the money that comes in. And we'll split any profit with the people at LeagueSafe and Sportshub that manage everything. By the time you pay people to handle things and pay the hefty compliance / regulatory fees that come with an above the board contest operator like this, it's not much money. You have to get to a big scale and remove the human element to make money. Like Best Ball or DFS. But that's ok.

BUT this DOES bring a fun element of community into play. And there will be lots of opportunities to expand and get better at this. I can see it moving to more a "match.com for fantasy football leagues" where we get specific about placing teams in leagues they want to be in. By geography or favorite team or such. And it's a great way to get visibility for our Premium Content for all the people who come into it not from our Footballguys audience.
Love this. Obviously many sites do this, but would be great if FBG did it.

I do the yahoo bestball ones, and they are decent, but only 10 man leagues. They return 90% of the buy ins in prize money. Fantrax does the same thing, with anywhere from 88-92% prize pay back, so I think the industry standard is around 90% (Leaguesafe doesn't charge anything, as they make their profits through ad revenue, as well as investing all the money they hold for half a year and profiting the large amounts of interest). I really don't like the Fantrax platform though, and think FBG can obviously do it better.

Would you have these as bestball contests or would you allow adds/drops? That's where things get a little hairy of course, as you can get people 'teaming up' and dropping a good player when their friend has top waiver priority/bid money. Hard to manage and referee that kinda stuff too.

Just my 2 cents though. Would definitely be interested.

Thanks. To start, these will all be offensive regular redraft.

I can eventually see moving to IDP, Best Ball and Dynasty and Salary Cap. But that would be down the road.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
Agreed. This has been my experience as well. And talking with Scott Fish who manages thousands of leagues with SafeLeagues, he said that's how they saw it as well.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
Agreed. This has been my experience as well. And talking with Scott Fish who manages thousands of leagues with SafeLeagues, he said that's how they saw it as well.
That's good, but it's always good to have certain rules in place that basically discourages collusion.

It's easy to say "who colludes for a couple hundred bucks," but you'd be surprised. I was in league for years with a few friends and the commish tried changing the rule in the middle of the season on the site to where head to head was the new tiebreaker instead of points scored. He knew he and I had the two best teams at a certain point and he had won the tiebreaker and he wanted to game the system to where he'd get the win if we ended up tied (this was a league with no playoffs, but where we play three games a week and the team with the best record after 16 weeks won the league). His mistake was forgetting that everyone had been emailed the rules before the season, so his cheating was called out by half the league and he was forced to change it back. I ended up winning the league, and I am sure it pained him to have to pay me. I never played in his league again (and several others followed suit), but while that is not collusion per se, it just goes to show you the lengths someone will go to in order to win some money in FF.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
If entry fee is $200 seems like winning prize would be much more than that.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
If entry fee is $200 seems like winning prize would be much more than that.
yea fair I just don't think the incentive vs risk equation is favorable for cheaters but there ARE checks for this kind of thing. and generally for leagues to form there has to be some level of faith in the process. monies can be held in escrow by a third party and most of us have been doing this for years. LeagueSafe for example requires more than half the owners to approve the payouts... but I'd say people should do what they're comfortable with.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
Agreed. This has been my experience as well. And talking with Scott Fish who manages thousands of leagues with SafeLeagues, he said that's how they saw it as well.
That's good, but it's always good to have certain rules in place that basically discourages collusion.

It's easy to say "who colludes for a couple hundred bucks," but you'd be surprised. I was in league for years with a few friends and the commish tried changing the rule in the middle of the season on the site to where head to head was the new tiebreaker instead of points scored. He knew he and I had the two best teams at a certain point and he had won the tiebreaker and he wanted to game the system to where he'd get the win if we ended up tied (this was a league with no playoffs, but where we play three games a week and the team with the best record after 16 weeks won the league). His mistake was forgetting that everyone had been emailed the rules before the season, so his cheating was called out by half the league and he was forced to change it back. I ended up winning the league, and I am sure it pained him to have to pay me. I never played in his league again (and several others followed suit), but while that is not collusion per se, it just goes to show you the lengths someone will go to in order to win some money in FF.
I hear ya. There are some good rules and structures out there that can be utilized. 3rd party escrow for example.
 
maybe this is an easy answer but i've always played with people i know, how do you avoid collusion or someone creating two teams, or a team and "his wifes" team to make questionable deals and stuff like that?
This is certainly a legit question but I can tell you just anecdotally from my own experience in honestly probably 100s of managed week to week head to head seasons with people I didn't know, collusion is often feared but never actualized. I've never actually seen it and I've played in 100s of league seasons. If you consider how hard it is just to play fantasy straight up, trying to read the tea leaves correctly and so forth, how much harder might it be to cheat effectively? I suppose people can try but it likely won't really work. Some leagues have certain players marked as undroppable, others where if you tried to execute unfair trades with your collusion partner, you might get away with one or two of them but is that really going to swing a league title? IDK the next question might be well how would you know they cheated if you didn't "notice" it or they weren't caught? My response is ok but hopefully solid run leagues have checks for this sort of thing and IMHO it just doesn't happen like people think it does. I know people on the board have some stories but personally if Joe and this board is going to facilitate some home-style league formations, I'd have no worries. It's for fun and a few taco bell runs worth of $. Nothing life changing. Who colludes for a couple hundred bucks?
Agreed. This has been my experience as well. And talking with Scott Fish who manages thousands of leagues with SafeLeagues, he said that's how they saw it as well.
That's good, but it's always good to have certain rules in place that basically discourages collusion.

It's easy to say "who colludes for a couple hundred bucks," but you'd be surprised. I was in league for years with a few friends and the commish tried changing the rule in the middle of the season on the site to where head to head was the new tiebreaker instead of points scored. He knew he and I had the two best teams at a certain point and he had won the tiebreaker and he wanted to game the system to where he'd get the win if we ended up tied (this was a league with no playoffs, but where we play three games a week and the team with the best record after 16 weeks won the league). His mistake was forgetting that everyone had been emailed the rules before the season, so his cheating was called out by half the league and he was forced to change it back. I ended up winning the league, and I am sure it pained him to have to pay me. I never played in his league again (and several others followed suit), but while that is not collusion per se, it just goes to show you the lengths someone will go to in order to win some money in FF.
I hear ya. There are some good rules and structures out there that can be utilized. 3rd party escrow for example.

Yes. We're partnering with LeagueSafe on this. They will be an integral part of this.
 
There will be trades allowed but we have some serious collusion language in place. A team thought to be colluding is removed from the league. It's the same rules Scott Fish has used for years in the SafeLeagues he's run and it's been little to no problem.
 
See that they're up and running now.

A little disappointed to see payouts between 79-81% when Fantrax runs the exact same types of leagues and pays out 88-92%.

With Sleeper and Leaguesafe both being completely free, wondering where the extra $470 goes (on a $200 buy in league).

I understand the need for the business to profit off of these, just wish the payout percentage was a bit closer to industry standard.
 
I have interest in this. Logistics will pay a large part in my final decision to join or not, if "live" in person drafts are preferred. Otherwise I'd be cool with "live" online drafting.
 
I’m interested if there are live in person drafts
It probably makes it exponentially harder to host the leagues, but this is what would get me hooked too.

A live auction in the DFW metroplex with other FBGs and run by someone I trust - no brainer instant join. Each one of those elements that goes away, I become less certain.

Wonder if there is a market segmentation for a premium offering that includes a live auction style draft that could even increase the margin.
 
Looking for a live in person draft in Kentucky, Tennessee or ohio

This first year we will not have in person drafts. But that's absolutley a goal for the future. That becomes a different situation though in logistics and renting space and such. But that's a goal.

For the best in person draft I know of in that area, you'll want https://www.sbffc.com/

I'm going to be drafting there this year.
 
Old school rules league would be fun and quite challenging. Not a lot of points and no flex with minimal bench. Just straight up old school. I'm in one of those now and it's the most unforgiving but worthwhile endeavors. BTW'S : I get that it's not popular. Just a thought.
 
Great news is we were able to raise bottom-line payouts to a little over 83%, which is a little better than comparable sites like the FFPC classic leagues' cash payouts.

And to be clear, that's 83+% bottom line with no "convenience fees" or other added costs.

FanTrax does offer some bargain prices on some non-best ball leagues, paying out 90%. But they're very different. To get a rate that low, they save a ton of money by excluding many of the states that have high regulatory fees. We just didn't feel good excluding a giant chunk of you folks.

FanTrax excludes the following states that require significant registration and payment to legally play:
  • Hawaii
  • Idaho
  • Indiana
  • Missouri
  • Nevada
  • New Jersey
  • New York
  • Pennsylvania
  • Tennessee
  • Virginia
Everyone in those states will be able to legally play in our contest.

We have a ton of customers in those states (including me :lmao: ) and we felt it was worth it to pay the regulation fees in order to include them.

And to be 100% clear, this isn't a criticism of FanTrax. They're making a business decision to lower their costs by excluding states. That's neither good nor bad. But it's just a different decision than we made.

Another significant difference is our leagues are commissioned with real people. The primary benefit of having a human commissioner is we can have trades. One of the best parts of fantasy football in my opinion. A commissioner involved also lets us do more sophisticated waiver wire things like blind bids instead of something simpler that doesn't require possible assistance.

Bottom line, we wanted to make this as much like your home league as possible.
 
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Just in to say that this is a no for me this year but maybe next year.

Last year I went from 2 managed leagues - 1 full redraft and 1 dynasty with some minor differences in scoring and lineups-- to adding 3 new leagues. Keep 3 superflex league, old school standard scoring dynasty another dyno with less lineup flexibility but still full ppr which is what I'm used to. I burned out pretty quickly last year on the management end of things (5 different sets of waivers, yeesh) and learned a little too late about how fouled up my standard league roster was. I have 2/3 dyno teams running reasonably well with enough picks and players to be evergreen. The other one is going to be a slog if I even decide to keep it.

This year, the freebie FBG is my only new league and I ran out of free money on underdog. I'd made an initial $10 investment a few years ago that paid for a sub and then rolled over some winnings to a few more drafts.

If I can be somewhere above survival mode on 6 managed leagues this year, maybe next year I can throw my $50 at you all. :shades:
 
Just in to say that this is a no for me this year but maybe next year.

Last year I went from 2 managed leagues - 1 full redraft and 1 dynasty with some minor differences in scoring and lineups-- to adding 3 new leagues. Keep 3 superflex league, old school standard scoring dynasty another dyno with less lineup flexibility but still full ppr which is what I'm used to. I burned out pretty quickly last year on the management end of things (5 different sets of waivers, yeesh) and learned a little too late about how fouled up my standard league roster was. I have 2/3 dyno teams running reasonably well with enough picks and players to be evergreen. The other one is going to be a slog if I even decide to keep it.

This year, the freebie FBG is my only new league and I ran out of free money on underdog. I'd made an initial $10 investment a few years ago that paid for a sub and then rolled over some winnings to a few more drafts.

If I can be somewhere above survival mode on 6 managed leagues this year, maybe next year I can throw my $50 at you all. :shades:

Next year!
 

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