Biggest winners/losers from day 1 (1 Viewer)

[The_Man]

I'm a Baltimore homer, but I count them as a winner so far, especially if you look at yesterday's trade in context of the Anquan Boldin acquisition, which cost them this year's 3rd and 4th round pick.

Viewed in that light, the Ravens moved their first pick back 18 slots from pick 25 to pick 43 (giving up their #1 for Denver's #2) and in return received:

Anquan Boldin

Moved up in the third round 18 spots (88-->70. Gave up the 88 for Boldin, got the 70 from Denver)

Moved up in the fourth round 9 spots (123-->114 Gave up the 123 for Boldin, got the 114 from Denver)

A fifth-round pick (157 acquired from AZ in the Boldin deal)

That's pretty good return for moving down 18 slots. And the Ravens are very true to their board. I am very confident that they either have someone at 43 ranked very close to who they had ranked at 25, or they will be willing to move back up today to get someone they have highly ranked.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

Agree on the Cowboys and Jets, not so high on the Packers pick. Put in the tape of Bulaga vs. Brandon Graham. He gets eaten alive.

I'm wondering if that was about the time that he was sick. Early last fall, Bulaga had a "viral infection in his thyroid that caused fatigue, a loss of stamina and an increased heart rate."And Graham is going to eat a lot of tackles alive, even in the NFL.

To be honest I hope he was sick at that time, because what I saw from him that day was not a 1st round NFL tackle. While I am super high on Graham and expect a bright future from him, he still shouldnt be able to abuse a 1st round tackle to the degree he did. Beat him here or there, yes. Completely dominate him and make him look silly, no.

Relax guy. It was one game. Should we be saying the same about the DE from GT who was taken before Bulaga?

It was not one game. That was just the most glaring example. I have watched plenty of Iowa games over the last few years. He does not strike me as a 1st round tackle at all. As I said thats just my opinion. I hope I am wrong because I like and respect the GB organization a lot.

 

[Honda]

It was not one game. That was just the most glaring example. I have watched plenty of Iowa games over the last few years. He does not strike me as a 1st round tackle at all. As I said thats just my opinion. I hope I am wrong because I like and respect the GB organization a lot.

I think Bulaga will turn out a lot like Sam Baker of the Falcons. Not great, but good enough, especially where they drafted him.

 

[roadkill1292]

I think the Patriots did their usual good job screwing up the Ravens with their Dallas trade because I think Ozzie would have grabbed Dez Bryant if available. Dez going off the board probably triggered the ensuing trade with Denver, which only looks wildly unbalanced on the surface because of who the Broncos took with that pick.

While Baltimore still needs secondary help, it wouldn't surprise me if they use of those seconds to grab Golden Tate, who I like a lot.

Jerry Jones in his press conference said that they definitely had to "move ahead of a couple teams" to get Dez. He was clearly talking about Baltimore. I have no doubt that Dallas taking Dez left Baltimore feeling their board was clear and triggered the trade back. I also suspect NE was happy to have Dez out of the conference if they didnt want him themselves.

Agreed. In hindsight, it appears Ozzie was hoping Dez (& maybe Gresham) fell & when he (they) didn't he felt free to move back. He already had Denver on the hook - since Wednesday, according to the Sun - so all he had to do was tighten the screws a little. I'm guessing he's probably got a glob of players all ranked the same now. The Ravens only had 5 picks coming into the draft - now they have 7, including 3 tonight (assuming they don't trade again). I was hoping they'd default to Odrick at 1.25 when Dez went, but Ozzie obviously has something else in mind.

Not that it's a controversial view that we have of it but Don Banks voiced the same opinion today on SI.com.The_Man also had his usual thoughtful perspective on the Ravens' strategy up above.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Agree on the Cowboys and Jets, not so high on the Packers pick. Put in the tape of Bulaga vs. Brandon Graham. He gets eaten alive.

I'm wondering if that was about the time that he was sick. Early last fall, Bulaga had a "viral infection in his thyroid that caused fatigue, a loss of stamina and an increased heart rate."And Graham is going to eat a lot of tackles alive, even in the NFL.

To be honest I hope he was sick at that time, because what I saw from him that day was not a 1st round NFL tackle. While I am super high on Graham and expect a bright future from him, he still shouldnt be able to abuse a 1st round tackle to the degree he did. Beat him here or there, yes. Completely dominate him and make him look silly, no.

Relax guy. It was one game. Should we be saying the same about the DE from GT who was taken before Bulaga?

It was not one game. That was just the most glaring example. I have watched plenty of Iowa games over the last few years. He does not strike me as a 1st round tackle at all. As I said thats just my opinion. I hope I am wrong because I like and respect the GB organization a lot.

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

I think Bulaga has the least potential of (Okung, Williams, Davis, Campbell, Brown) in the draft. He perhaps might have the 2nd or 3rd highest floor however...b/c he can play RT or G easily.Ferentz was a good OL coach in the NFL and that has helped some players....but Robert Gallery also came from that system.What I have heard is Bulaga had concerns about work ethic, short arms, and slow feet. At pick 23 and b/c he can play multiple positions....it is a good pick. He won't be a stud LT however...which is okay b/c GB needs two OTs.

 

[G5781]

Ravens have to be in the running for best with the trade they pulled off with Denver.

I saw this alot on some boards but I didnt think that Baltimore fleeced Denver all that much.Baltimore dropped 20 spots for their first pick, gained a 3rd, and swapped 4ths (5 pick difference). For Denver to jump back into the first round and only lose a 3rd round pick, I dont think it was all that bad. Especially since I've seen teams trade future 1's to get back in the 1st. They totally botched the pick but to say that Baltimore should be a big winner is crazy. They still dont have a player out of this draft yet and would need to hit on the 3rd Denver gave them.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

I think Bulaga has the least potential of (Okung, Williams, Davis, Campbell, Brown) in the draft. He perhaps might have the 2nd or 3rd highest floor however...b/c he can play RT or G easily.Ferentz was a good OL coach in the NFL and that has helped some players....but Robert Gallery also came from that system.What I have heard is Bulaga had concerns about work ethic, short arms, and slow feet. At pick 23 and b/c he can play multiple positions....it is a good pick. He won't be a stud LT however...which is okay b/c GB needs two OTs.

I really disagree with you on the OT potential however this is the type of post I would expect from you.Who cares of Gallery came from that system? What was wrong with Gallery when he came out of college?Bulaga's arms are longer than Joe Thomas', and the same size and Oher, Monroe, and GB's very own Chad Clifton.It's laughable that you've already made up your mind about him based on the measurables. Ridiculous.

 

[The_Man]

Ravens have to be in the running for best with the trade they pulled off with Denver.

I saw this alot on some boards but I didnt think that Baltimore fleeced Denver all that much.Baltimore dropped 20 spots for their first pick, gained a 3rd, and swapped 4ths (5 pick difference).

For Denver to jump back into the first round and only lose a 3rd round pick, I dont think it was all that bad. Especially since I've seen teams trade future 1's to get back in the 1st. They totally botched the pick but to say that Baltimore should be a big winner is crazy. They still dont have a player out of this draft yet and would need to hit on the 3rd Denver gave them.

That's not correct. Baltimore gave up the 25th overall for selections in the second round (43rd overall), third round (70th) and fourth round (114th). They didn't give up a 4th -- they didn't even have a 4th because they gave it to AZ for Boldin last month.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

I think Bulaga has the least potential of (Okung, Williams, Davis, Campbell, Brown) in the draft. He perhaps might have the 2nd or 3rd highest floor however...b/c he can play RT or G easily.Ferentz was a good OL coach in the NFL and that has helped some players....but Robert Gallery also came from that system.What I have heard is Bulaga had concerns about work ethic, short arms, and slow feet. At pick 23 and b/c he can play multiple positions....it is a good pick. He won't be a stud LT however...which is okay b/c GB needs two OTs.

I really disagree with you on the OT potential however this is the type of post I would expect from you.Who cares of Gallery came from that system? What was wrong with Gallery when he came out of college?Bulaga's arms are longer than Joe Thomas', and the same size and Oher, Monroe, and GB's very own Chad Clifton.It's laughable that you've already made up your mind about him based on the measurables. Ridiculous.

The type of post you expect from me??? Please explain.You praised Bulaga for coming from that system....yet Gallery came from the same and now it is a "who cares"? Can't have it both ways. When was the last stud OL to come out of Iowa and live up to the hype?When the rumors of why Bulaga slipped are lack of work ethic(a Packers fan told me this, one of your own) and he wasn't a great measurable guy to start...I think it is safe to say that many in the NFL circle didn't view him as potentially the best OT in this draft.

 

[Johnnymac]

McDaniels loading up on draft picks...then using those picks to snag Tebow? Before Claussen? Niners loading up that o-line was a big coup though they gave up a 4th to move up a couple spots.Eagles passed on Earl Thomas and still have poor safeties. Notable names still available for Friday: ClaussenColt McCoyTaylor MaysSergio KindleRoger SaffoldAlso, someone should take Steve Young behind the shed. It's sad to see what happens when you take too many hits to the head. He sounds extremely mentally challenged. It's really, really sad to hear him try to talk and I don't understand why ESPN has employed this man. If they're going to hire a former Niners qb I actually think Garcia might work. He's got charisma, can form competent sentences and we might get the occasional picture of his girlfriend.

Agree mostly. I like what the niners did getting those O-Lineman. That kid from Idaho just looks nasty.They need to stop thinking more is better on these damn shows! Why do we need 5 guys sitting at the table??? Its ridiculous. Get rid of Young, Jackson, and Gruden. The draft show should have a host and Mel Kiper and that's it.

 

[GregR_2]

...

Sinners

JAX

CIN

HOU

DEN

NO

Why on earth would you have Houston in there?

I think Kyle Wilson, Dan Williams or Dez Bryant all would have been better picks, I think the could have traded back a few spots and still taken Jackson if he was thier man.

If "should have traded back" is a valid criticism on taking Kareem Jackson at pick 20, wouldn't taking Kyle Wilson at 20 be even more deserving of that criticism? We don't know if Houston would have lost Jackson if they tried to trade back. But we know for a fact where Kyle Wilson went, and taking at 20 a guy who wouldn't go until 29 is plenty of room to be able to trade back.And that said, I'm not sure that Kareem Jackson would have lasted. Kiper and Scouts Inc both had Kareem Jackson as their #2 CB, Mayock had him #3 with Kyle Wilson #2.

I personally would have taken Dez Bryant if I were the GM though I'd probably have hated myself for a year until I could get a corner next off season. I think taking a DT would have been a mistake there, though. I'd much rather have taken a CB in the 1st and trusted my luck on what was there at DT in the 2nd or 3rd than the other way around.

 

[Johnnymac]

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

I think Bulaga has the least potential of (Okung, Williams, Davis, Campbell, Brown) in the draft. He perhaps might have the 2nd or 3rd highest floor however...b/c he can play RT or G easily.Ferentz was a good OL coach in the NFL and that has helped some players....but Robert Gallery also came from that system.What I have heard is Bulaga had concerns about work ethic, short arms, and slow feet. At pick 23 and b/c he can play multiple positions....it is a good pick. He won't be a stud LT however...which is okay b/c GB needs two OTs.

Bulaga was just coming back from the thyroid illness when he was killed by Graham. I think he's a good pick at 23. It was pretty much a no-brainer for the Packers to take him there. I dont think he will be a LT in the NFL. Probably play RT.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Evidently, both the Pats and the Cowboys wanted Alualu. I don't see the reason in saying Jacksonville reached. In fact, the only real gripe I have with the pick is that we weren't able to acquire any other picks by trading down 5-10 slots.

I had no idea why Jax drafted Alualu that high.I think he may have fallen to the very bottom of the firstif not top of the 2nd round.I've heard nothing from a legitimate source of the Patriots wanting Alualu.

 

[Ford Prefect]

Forsett stock on the rise........

Not so fast.I'd venture to guess that the reason San Diego moved up to 12 was to avoid the possibility of Seattle grabbing Mathews at 14. Forsett still has a long way to go before he's out of the woods. He's a Montario Hardesty/Ben Tate/Toby Gerhart/Joe McKnight away from a RBBC or worse.

I disagree with this. None of the available RBs, including Lynch, have the talent that Spiller and Matthews (and even Best) have. Most people were assuming they would draft Spiller so Forsett's value was relatively low before the draft. He was a "buy-low" just in case they didn't get Spiller, but nobody was paying anything more than "buy-low" value for him. Now that it's clear that Forsett is going to play a significant role in the running game his value has gone up. Most people still expect them to add a RB, but that is much more to replace Jones and be a part of a RBBC than to take over like Spiller would have. Forsett's value is higher now than it was before the draft and no matter who they add at RB at this point it will still be higher than it was before the draft. His stock is definitely on the rise.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

I think Bulaga has the least potential of (Okung, Williams, Davis, Campbell, Brown) in the draft. He perhaps might have the 2nd or 3rd highest floor however...b/c he can play RT or G easily.Ferentz was a good OL coach in the NFL and that has helped some players....but Robert Gallery also came from that system.What I have heard is Bulaga had concerns about work ethic, short arms, and slow feet. At pick 23 and b/c he can play multiple positions....it is a good pick. He won't be a stud LT however...which is okay b/c GB needs two OTs.

I really disagree with you on the OT potential however this is the type of post I would expect from you.Who cares of Gallery came from that system? What was wrong with Gallery when he came out of college?Bulaga's arms are longer than Joe Thomas', and the same size and Oher, Monroe, and GB's very own Chad Clifton.It's laughable that you've already made up your mind about him based on the measurables. Ridiculous.

The type of post you expect from me??? Please explain.You praised Bulaga for coming from that system....yet Gallery came from the same and now it is a "who cares"? Can't have it both ways. When was the last stud OL to come out of Iowa and live up to the hype?When the rumors of why Bulaga slipped are lack of work ethic(a Packers fan told me this, one of your own) and he wasn't a great measurable guy to start...I think it is safe to say that many in the NFL circle didn't view him as potentially the best OT in this draft.

Who was the last stud OT in Oakland? That's why I said who cares. Can't blame Iowa for what happens in the Black Hole.Scouts.com graded him as their #2 OL overall after Okung and in the top 10 of their top 100. Yes I believe he could very well end up the best OT in this draft.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Going inside the AFC West conference:

Winners: Raiders, Chiefs

Losers: Broncos, Chargers

Raiders took BPA at position of great need, and he will be around anchoring the defense for another decade.

Chiefs took a very talented safety, worthy of the pick, I still think they should have picked Okung. Still a great pick.

Broncos.....no need to rip at scabs, this has been discussed ad nauseum.

Chargers.....major reach and overpay for a small conference RB that is going to be an avg NFL back at best. They poisoned thier draft board.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

He was taken 23rd overall so he's not going to blow anyone away. However, he does have the potential to be the best OT coming out of this class. He comes from a solid system with Ferentz in Iowa and is a very good fit for the Packers. No, he's not the exciting splash pick like Detroit made yesterday (and have made many times in the past), but he looks like a great fit just like how Greg Jennings was a great fit.

I think Bulaga has the least potential of (Okung, Williams, Davis, Campbell, Brown) in the draft. He perhaps might have the 2nd or 3rd highest floor however...b/c he can play RT or G easily.

Ferentz was a good OL coach in the NFL and that has helped some players....but Robert Gallery also came from that system.

What I have heard is Bulaga had concerns about work ethic, short arms, and slow feet. At pick 23 and b/c he can play multiple positions....it is a good pick. He won't be a stud LT however...which is okay b/c GB needs two OTs.

I really disagree with you on the OT potential however this is the type of post I would expect from you.Who cares of Gallery came from that system? What was wrong with Gallery when he came out of college?

Bulaga's arms are longer than Joe Thomas', and the same size and Oher, Monroe, and GB's very own Chad Clifton.

It's laughable that you've already made up your mind about him based on the measurables. Ridiculous.

The type of post you expect from me??? Please explain.You praised Bulaga for coming from that system....yet Gallery came from the same and now it is a "who cares"? Can't have it both ways. When was the last stud OL to come out of Iowa and live up to the hype?

When the rumors of why Bulaga slipped are lack of work ethic(a Packers fan told me this, one of your own) and he wasn't a great measurable guy to start...I think it is safe to say that many in the NFL circle didn't view him as potentially the best OT in this draft.

Who was the last stud OT in Oakland? That's why I said who cares. Can't blame Iowa for what happens in the Black Hole.A Packers fan told you that huh? Well color me convinced.

Scouts.com graded him as their #2 OL overall after Okung and in the top 10 of their top 100. Yes he could very well end up the best OT in this draft.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...1807&spln=1Bryan Bulaga: Bulaga's work ethic questioned

Bryan Bulaga - T - GB - Apr. 22 - 1:51 pm et

According to Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson, concerns have surfaced about Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga's work ethic.

An offensive lineman, from Iowa, who doesn't work hard? These are rare. Bulaga, whose stock seems to be slipping rapidly on the day of the draft after most projections had him as a shoe-in top-nine pick, may be the victim of pre-draft misinformation. We very much doubt that he'll get out of the top 13. Apr. 22 - 1:51 pm et

Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter

But it is probably me just making stuff up.

 

[Please See Mine]

Ask again in 5 years. Better, look back 5 years and see how these 'great' drafts worked out.How many of these guys panned out?1 San Francisco 49ers Alex Smith Quarterback Utah2 Miami Dolphins Ronnie Brown Running back Auburn3 Cleveland Browns Braylon Edwards Wide Receiver Michigan4 Chicago Bears Cedric Benson Running back Texas5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Carnell Williams Running back Auburn6 Tennessee Titans Adam Jones Cornerback West Virginia7 Minnesota Vikings (from Oakland) Troy Williamson Wide Receiver South Carolina8 Arizona Cardinals Antrel Rolle Cornerback Miami (FL)9 Washington Redskins Carlos Rogers Cornerback Auburn10 Detroit Lions Mike Williams Wide Receiver USC

Brown, Caddy, Rolle and Rogers.1/2 for Benson and Edwards.So about 50%

 

[scrumptrulescent]

The type of post you expect from me??? Please explain.

You praised Bulaga for coming from that system....yet Gallery came from the same and now it is a "who cares"? Can't have it both ways. When was the last stud OL to come out of Iowa and live up to the hype?

When the rumors of why Bulaga slipped are lack of work ethic(a Packers fan told me this, one of your own) and he wasn't a great measurable guy to start...I think it is safe to say that many in the NFL circle didn't view him as potentially the best OT in this draft.

Who was the last stud OT in Oakland? That's why I said who cares. Can't blame Iowa for what happens in the Black Hole.A Packers fan told you that huh? Well color me convinced.

Scouts.com graded him as their #2 OL overall after Okung and in the top 10 of their top 100. Yes he could very well end up the best OT in this draft.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...1807&spln=1Bryan Bulaga: Bulaga's work ethic questioned

Bryan Bulaga - T - GB - Apr. 22 - 1:51 pm et

According to Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson, concerns have surfaced about Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga's work ethic.

An offensive lineman, from Iowa, who doesn't work hard? These are rare. Bulaga, whose stock seems to be slipping rapidly on the day of the draft after most projections had him as a shoe-in top-nine pick, may be the victim of pre-draft misinformation. We very much doubt that he'll get out of the top 13. Apr. 22 - 1:51 pm et

Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter

But it is probably me just making stuff up.

No you're definitely right. That's rock solid, air tight evidence that he's lazy.Scott Wright's Scouting Report

Matt McGuire's Scouting Report

Matt McGuire's "Strength's" from WalterFootball

Bryan Bulaga Scouting Report

By Matt McGuire

Strengths:

Solid size and playing strength

Very physical demeanor; killer instinct

Outstanding technician

Natural knee bender; generates great leverage

Locks on - battle over

Quick, smooth feet

Great run blocker

Good hand use

Plays with terrific balance - never on ground

Shows ability to slide and mirror vs. speed

Very good work ethic

Good (not great) athleticism

Well coached

Smart

Adequate range to play left tackle

Very polished and Week 1 Starter

 

[Louisville Slugger]

McDaniels loading up on draft picks...then using those picks to snag Tebow? Before Claussen? Niners loading up that o-line was a big coup though they gave up a 4th to move up a couple spots.Eagles passed on Earl Thomas and still have poor safeties. Notable names still available for Friday: ClaussenColt McCoyTaylor MaysSergio KindleRoger SaffoldAlso, someone should take Steve Young behind the shed. It's sad to see what happens when you take too many hits to the head. He sounds extremely mentally challenged. It's really, really sad to hear him try to talk and I don't understand why ESPN has employed this man. If they're going to hire a former Niners qb I actually think Garcia might work. He's got charisma, can form competent sentences and we might get the occasional picture of his girlfriend.

The Patriots were a clear loser on day one. They desperately impact players at OLB, D-Line and WR. Yet they traded down again to take a cb for literally the fourth year in a row.The dynasty is over. Time to rebuild for the 2012/2013 season.

 

[Warpig]

Losers:

St. Louis - They bought into the hype and draft Bradford just because they are buddies with his agent. I'd feel sick if I were them knowing I could have gotten Suh and Clausen.

Buffalo - Jackson, Lynch, and Spiller...and they had so many other holes to fill. Idiotic. They'll be looking for a new head coach in a year or two.

Denver - pass up on an uber talent in Dez, trade up to draft a project at QB in the 1st round. I'm telling ya, McDaniels is looking more and more like crazy Al.

Jacksonville (my team) - THAT'S IT! DEL RIO MUST GO! I've been beating that drum for about 2 or 3 years now. How about a damn DE, CB, or QB? Idiots!

San Diego (sort of) - I like the pick of Mathews, just not sure why they had to trade all the way up to 12 to get him.

Winners:

Detroit - Suh needed to go to a 4-3 and now he can dominate! It's debatable that Best, if he can shake the injury bug, is the best RB in this class.

Dallas - I'm so happy Dez didn't go to Denver. They got a steal with this pick. Only question now is how are the receptions divvied between Austin, Witten, Felix Jones/MBIII, Dez, and what if Roy gets his head screwed on straight and starts playing like a mad man?

Atlanta - I love the Weatherspoon pick. Move on or retire M-Pete!

Oakland - WOW! Crazy Al made a good pick! However, I still question what their thinking. Now they have a glut of LB's and DE's. They needed a QB and some O-line help! But I won't be too harsh since atleast everyone agrees that McClain is a football player.

Seattle - Good start so far for the new HC.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

The type of post you expect from me??? Please explain.

You praised Bulaga for coming from that system....yet Gallery came from the same and now it is a "who cares"? Can't have it both ways. When was the last stud OL to come out of Iowa and live up to the hype?

When the rumors of why Bulaga slipped are lack of work ethic(a Packers fan told me this, one of your own) and he wasn't a great measurable guy to start...I think it is safe to say that many in the NFL circle didn't view him as potentially the best OT in this draft.

Who was the last stud OT in Oakland? That's why I said who cares. Can't blame Iowa for what happens in the Black Hole.A Packers fan told you that huh? Well color me convinced.

Scouts.com graded him as their #2 OL overall after Okung and in the top 10 of their top 100. Yes he could very well end up the best OT in this draft.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...1807&spln=1Bryan Bulaga: Bulaga's work ethic questioned

Bryan Bulaga - T - GB - Apr. 22 - 1:51 pm et

According to Yahoo Sports' Charles Robinson, concerns have surfaced about Iowa OT Bryan Bulaga's work ethic.

An offensive lineman, from Iowa, who doesn't work hard? These are rare. Bulaga, whose stock seems to be slipping rapidly on the day of the draft after most projections had him as a shoe-in top-nine pick, may be the victim of pre-draft misinformation. We very much doubt that he'll get out of the top 13. Apr. 22 - 1:51 pm et

Source: Charles Robinson on Twitter

But it is probably me just making stuff up.

No you're definitely right. That's rock solid, air tight evidence that he's lazy.Scott Wright's Scouting Report

Matt McGuire's Scouting Report

Matt McGuire's "Strength's" from WalterFootball

Bryan Bulaga Scouting Report

By Matt McGuire

Strengths:

Solid size and playing strength

Very physical demeanor; killer instinct

Outstanding technician

Natural knee bender; generates great leverage

Locks on - battle over

Quick, smooth feet

Great run blocker

Good hand use

Plays with terrific balance - never on ground

Shows ability to slide and mirror vs. speed

Very good work ethic

Good (not great) athleticism

Well coached

Smart

Adequate range to play left tackle

Very polished and Week 1 Starter

Let me get this straight.

I point out a few reasons as to why Bulaga slipped, but still stating it's a good pick. You don't believe me, saying my buddy wasn't solid in regards to the work ethic. I go out and find evidence posted from Jason Robinson from Yahoo Sports...stating this may or may not be the reason. But it isn't even a possibility b/c of a guy from Walterfootball.com???

5 offensive lineman went before Bulaga.....3 OT, 1 C, 1 G.

22 teams passed on him

So let me know why he slipped then if it wasn't for the short arms, heavy feet, possible lack of work ethic, or ability to play LT.

But stay on that homer train that nothing is wrong with Bulaga and that he could be the best OT in this class.

 

[SSOG]

ETA: You build from the inside out if you want to win.

This is quickly becoming my least favorite cliche in football. The two Superbowl teams last year were Indy and New Orleans. Both teams reached the big game on the strength of dynamic passing offenses, nondescript offensive lines, and defenses that feature a better back seven than front seven.If you want to win, you better get good players. Those good players can be on the inside, or they can be on the outside, but they better be better than the players on the other team.

Denver gave up 3 picks to move up 20 spots. Last year those picks =Everette Brown, Michael Johnson and Louis Murphy or Colllie.Word was Buffalo was trying to move up but I see BS because GB was trying to move down. They waited a full 10 minutes to field offers.

No, Denver gave up TWO picks to move up 20 spots. The phrase "move up" means that you converted a later pick into an earlier pick- you can't count the pick you're converting as part of the cost of "moving up".Philly gave up a 4th rounder to move up 2 spots. Denver gave up a 3rd and a 4th to move up 20 spots. I don't see why one trade is fine and the other is a fleecing, other than that people like who Philly selected and don't like who Denver selected.

 

[Honda]

ETA: You build from the inside out if you want to win.

This is quickly becoming my least favorite cliche in football. The two Superbowl teams last year were Indy and New Orleans. Both teams reached the big game on the strength of dynamic passing offenses, nondescript offensive lines, and defenses that feature a better back seven than front seven.If you want to win, you better get good players. Those good players can be on the inside, or they can be on the outside, but they better be better than the players on the other team.

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[SSOG]

nondescript offensive lines,

I liked most of what you said ssog... but anyone who calls the offensive line of New Orleans besides anything other then "one of the best in the league" is missing the boat [i was gonna say something else, but it isnt meant to be an insult] on the truth of the situation. They have have been a superior unit for a few years now.just because schmoes dont know their names, or the media doesnt talk about them... doesnt change that fact.

I never said they were bad, or even average. I said they were nondescript. The fact that schmoes don't know their name doesn't mean they're any less good, but it does mean that schmoes don't know their name. When I think of teams that devote a lot of resources to the line, New Orleans doesn't generally come to mind.