What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

bill parcells wants back as a coach? (1 Viewer)

BigGayDan said:
Some of you guys are complete morons. Parcells is one of the top 3 coaches/GMs/scouts ever. Bottom line, his consistent results justify his legend. If you can't recognize that, then you don't understand football.
These coaches were clearly superior to Parcells (in no particular order):Walsh

Landry

Knoll

Gibbs

Jimmy Johnson

Shula

Lombardi

Halas

Paul Brown

Do you realize that there were times in the late 80's/early 90's that Parcels was not even the second best head coach in his own division?
I'm not trying to segregate one moment in time or a few years. I'm looking at the full career of Parcells. Many of the guys on your list produced great results for ONE team. Was Walsh a better coach? Probably. But Parcells is the complete package and he has demonstrated that with 5 different NFL teams, taking them from very bad to very good in a small amount of time. Not many coaches have been able to translate into great GMs. What I'm saying is that Parcells is one of the top 3 football minds ever - the full package, not just coaching or GM.P.S. You have many great names on your list but Jimmy Johnson isn't in the same breath as any of these guys.

 
PatsFanCT said:
BigGayDan said:
Some of you guys are complete morons. Parcells is one of the top 3 coaches/GMs/scouts ever. Bottom line, his consistent results justify his legend. If you can't recognize that, then you don't understand football.
Or you're a complete moron and don't understand football. But that's the beauty of opinion.
There's opinion and then there's idiocy. Failing to recognize the brilliance of Parcells is the latter.
Brilliant people don't select Pat White in the 2nd round.
Nobody's perfect.
 
BigGayDan said:
Some of you guys are complete morons. Parcells is one of the top 3 coaches/GMs/scouts ever. Bottom line, his consistent results justify his legend. If you can't recognize that, then you don't understand football.
These coaches were clearly superior to Parcells (in no particular order):Walsh

Landry

Knoll

Gibbs

Jimmy Johnson

Shula

Lombardi

Halas

Paul Brown

Do you realize that there were times in the late 80's/early 90's that Parcels was not even the second best head coach in his own division?
I'm not trying to segregate one moment in time or a few years. I'm looking at the full career of Parcells. Many of the guys on your list produced great results for ONE team. Was Walsh a better coach? Probably. But Parcells is the complete package and he has demonstrated that with 5 different NFL teams, taking them from very bad to very good in a small amount of time. Not many coaches have been able to translate into great GMs. What I'm saying is that Parcells is one of the top 3 football minds ever - the full package, not just coaching or GM.P.S. You have many great names on your list but Jimmy Johnson isn't in the same breath as any of these guys.
I agree, but you can easily replace him with Belichick.
 
Good thread--a lot good info.

I really don't understand how you can say after winning a Super Bowl, that Parcells hasn't done anything. Being a Head Coach, winning a SB is truly out of your hands. It is in the hands of the player. You have to look at team improvement, realistically. Saying that a team was trending upwards when he entered, is a testament to Parcell's ability to get both players and coaches to create winners. All the players that Dallas depends on now are Parcells' players. Ware, as gifted as he is, could have easily busted under another coach. Tony Romo would probably be a nobody if Parcell's didn't get him. As for Pat White, it isn't Parcells fault that it didn't work out. It falls on the coaching staff and/or Pat White himself. Remember also that Parcells only took two seasons to turn anybody around. He made it look easy to win.

As for the guy talking about how the Lions needs Parcells because Schwartz isn't getting it done. Guy, your team didn't win a game two years ago and drafted three busted WRs in the early first round. It takes a long time to recover from one bust let alone three. You can't create talent out of nothing. It takes intelligent drafting and signing to do that. Schwartz also can't give Stafford a new shoulder. If Stafford stayed healthy his whole career the Lions would be winning more but we don't operate in a world of ifs.

Parcells actual rank out of all is debatable. How he ranks relative to the majority of other coaches. He is one of the best. As I understand it, he is basically keeping his position but losing his title. All he has to do is answer his phone when somebody wants advice.

 
PatsFanCT said:
BigGayDan said:
Some of you guys are complete morons. Parcells is one of the top 3 coaches/GMs/scouts ever. Bottom line, his consistent results justify his legend. If you can't recognize that, then you don't understand football.
Or you're a complete moron and don't understand football. But that's the beauty of opinion.
Why don't you just skip flaming in Parcells threads? No one benefits from it.
 
Coach Record Pct. Titles

1 Vince Lombardi 105-35-6 .740 5

2 John Madden 112-39-7 .731 1

3 George Allen 118-54-6 .684 0

4 Blanton Collier 79-38-2 .672 1

5 George Halas 324-151-31 .671 6

6 Don Shula 347-173-6 .665 2

7 Ray Flaherty 82-41-5 .660 2

8 Tony Dungy 148-79 .652 1

9 George Seifert 124-67 .649 2

10 Bill Belichick 153-90 .630 3

11 Joe Gibbs 171-101 .629 3

12 Curly Lambeau 229-134-22 .623 6

13 Bill Cowher 161-99-1 .619 1

14 Bill Walsh 102-63-1 .617 3

15 Paul Brown* 170-108-6 .609 3

16 Andy Reid 107-69-1 .6073 0

17 Bud Grant 168-108-5 .6068 0

18 Tom Landry 270-178 .601 2

19 Mike Shanahan 154-103 .599 2

20 Potsy Clark 65-42-12 .597 1

21 Marty Schottenheimer 205-139-1 .5957 0

22 Greasy Neale 66-44-5 .5957 2

23 Mike Holmgren 174-122 .588 1

24 Steve Owen 153-108-17 .5809 2

25 Buddy Parker 107-76-9 .5807 2

26 Mike Sherman 59-43 .578 0

27 Hank Stram 136-100-10 .573 2**

28 Chuck Noll 209-156-1 .572 4

29 Jimmy Conzelman 88-64-17 .571 1

30 Wade Phillips 70-53 .570 0

Look who didn't make the winning percentage list. Of course he is just next in line or so.

He is no Wade Phillips or Mike Sherman when it comes to winning percentages.

 
I hope Houston is visiting his Spring Lake home as we speak. Would be a game changer for the Texans.

note: I doubt this ever happens.

 
Coach Record Pct. Titles 1 Vince Lombardi 105-35-6 .740 5 2 John Madden 112-39-7 .731 1 3 George Allen 118-54-6 .684 0 4 Blanton Collier 79-38-2 .672 1 5 George Halas 324-151-31 .671 6 6 Don Shula 347-173-6 .665 2 7 Ray Flaherty 82-41-5 .660 2 8 Tony Dungy 148-79 .652 1 9 George Seifert 124-67 .649 2 10 Bill Belichick 153-90 .630 3 11 Joe Gibbs 171-101 .629 3 12 Curly Lambeau 229-134-22 .623 6 13 Bill Cowher 161-99-1 .619 1 14 Bill Walsh 102-63-1 .617 3 15 Paul Brown* 170-108-6 .609 3 16 Andy Reid 107-69-1 .6073 0 17 Bud Grant 168-108-5 .6068 0 18 Tom Landry 270-178 .601 2 19 Mike Shanahan 154-103 .599 2 20 Potsy Clark 65-42-12 .597 1 21 Marty Schottenheimer 205-139-1 .5957 0 22 Greasy Neale 66-44-5 .5957 2 23 Mike Holmgren 174-122 .588 1 24 Steve Owen 153-108-17 .5809 2 25 Buddy Parker 107-76-9 .5807 2 26 Mike Sherman 59-43 .578 0 27 Hank Stram 136-100-10 .573 2** 28 Chuck Noll 209-156-1 .572 4 29 Jimmy Conzelman 88-64-17 .571 1 30 Wade Phillips 70-53 .570 0 Look who didn't make the winning percentage list. Of course he is just next in line or so. He is no Wade Phillips or Mike Sherman when it comes to winning percentages.
WGAF about Win Pct's when he has the same # of championships as 9 of these guys AND more championships than 13 of them. W-L records don't mean squat the fact that he got RESULTS is what matters .
 
Coach Record Pct. Titles 1 Vince Lombardi 105-35-6 .740 5 2 John Madden 112-39-7 .731 1 3 George Allen 118-54-6 .684 0 4 Blanton Collier 79-38-2 .672 1 5 George Halas 324-151-31 .671 6 6 Don Shula 347-173-6 .665 2 7 Ray Flaherty 82-41-5 .660 2 8 Tony Dungy 148-79 .652 1 9 George Seifert 124-67 .649 2 10 Bill Belichick 153-90 .630 3 11 Joe Gibbs 171-101 .629 3 12 Curly Lambeau 229-134-22 .623 6 13 Bill Cowher 161-99-1 .619 1 14 Bill Walsh 102-63-1 .617 3 15 Paul Brown* 170-108-6 .609 3 16 Andy Reid 107-69-1 .6073 0 17 Bud Grant 168-108-5 .6068 0 18 Tom Landry 270-178 .601 2 19 Mike Shanahan 154-103 .599 2 20 Potsy Clark 65-42-12 .597 1 21 Marty Schottenheimer 205-139-1 .5957 0 22 Greasy Neale 66-44-5 .5957 2 23 Mike Holmgren 174-122 .588 1 24 Steve Owen 153-108-17 .5809 2 25 Buddy Parker 107-76-9 .5807 2 26 Mike Sherman 59-43 .578 0 27 Hank Stram 136-100-10 .573 2** 28 Chuck Noll 209-156-1 .572 4 29 Jimmy Conzelman 88-64-17 .571 1 30 Wade Phillips 70-53 .570 0 Look who didn't make the winning percentage list. Of course he is just next in line or so. He is no Wade Phillips or Mike Sherman when it comes to winning percentages.
WGAF about Win Pct's when he has the same # of championships as 9 of these guys AND more championships than 13 of them. W-L records don't mean squat the fact that he got RESULTS is what matters .
:goodposting:He also came into losing teams and turned them into winners, so his W-L record would be misleading given the fact that he was brought in to rebuild losing franchises. The fact that he did that with as many teams as he did in the free agent era is truly amazing.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top