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I agree. I am surprised that so many have this guy as being a stud. I think Dez Bryant was a much better prospect coming out and Blackmon's upside is lower than Bryant'. It doesn't mean he cannot be productive, but he is not a game changer in the NFL IMO.
I think NFL teams put about 1/10 as much importance on combine 40 times as fans do.I think that is true generally speaking, but especially for a player like Blackmon where the game tape has him in a distinctly different tier from any other WR in his draft class.
I have the 1.2 pick in one dynasty draft and there is no way in hell I'm drafting this guy at 1.2.
completely disagree. i think blackmon is the much better prospect. their physical tools are similar, but blackmon far and away has his head on the right way.
With the QBs available I probably wouldn't take him that high either.
Head on the right way? Didn't he get a DUI in 2010? Blackmon = Crabtree on the field.
You just traded Ingram for the 1.5...Would you take Blackmon over Ingram?
That was EBF, not me. I wouldn't have traded Ingram for the 1.5. That's giving up on Ingram a little early.
I think you might be a bit biased, Colts fan.
There's always a chance, but how does Jacksonville not take him given the opportunity?
I'm never a homer when it comes to fantasy football. I wouldn't win if that were the case. If I take Luck at 1.2 it's because I feel he's the best value for the pick and maybe a need for my team, not because I'm a Colts fan. If it happens to turn out that way then so be it.
Fair enough. Saying there's "no way in Hell" you draft him at 1.2 makes it seem like Blackmon has glaring warts that make him unworthy of the pick. He doesn't, really. I guess it's also easier to take that stance when the best QB prospect coming out in years also happens to be going to your home team. Just an observation, no offense.
I think he does. His ability to seperate has come into question. I'm sure there are teams that want to see him run. Like someone said earlier, the Pro Day tends to turn out faster times than the combine. Why is that?
DUIs are like Tatoo's everybody has 1
I think it's the Agents telling these guys not to run, not the players. Few weeks ago reports were coming out how he wanted to do everything at the combine and now he is not. Couple days ago there were reports that Trent was already running in the low 4.4's in Arizona and now it comes out he had a "procedure". These guys are just doing what they feel is in their best interest, just like the QBs not throwing. As much as I want them to participate in the combine, the fact they don't has no bearing on wether or not I will draft them or not. If a team values them at a high pick, that is enough assurance to me. Hopefully they go to a situation that helps them excell(good QB, good OL, commitment to run or pass). I think great talent meeting a great situation is what makes these guys "elite". Sometimes you get one without the other and it makes things a little muggy.
Maybe if you're from detoilet
Is Justin Blackmon Overrated?Feb 20th at 10:45 am by Bo Is Justin Blackmon Overrated? Justin Blackmon is widely considered the best wide receiver in this class. He possesses great strength and catching ability. Statistically, Blackmon is off the charts and has been the best receiver in college football the last two years. However, these stats can be skewed; just because Blackmon is the best in college doesnt mean hes going to be the best choice in the NFL draft. See there is a such a different level of talent in college that its really hard to get a 100% accurate reading on how a player is going to translate into the NFL.Ive compiled a list of first round receivers in the last 6 years and this is what Ive come up with:2011-AJ Green (4th overall), Julio Jones (6th overall)2010-Demariyus Thomas (22nd overall), Dez Bryant (24th overall)2009-Darrius Heyward-Bey(7th overall), Michael Crabtree (10th overall)2008-None taken in first round2007-Calvin Johnson (2nd overall), Ted Ginn Jr.(9th overall)2006-Santonio Holmes (25th overall)Now, these players were considered some of the best coming out of college and if I were to break them down into to tiers of production it would look like this:Elite:Calvin Johnson Elite Potentialez BryantAJ GreenDemariyus Thomas Great Potential:Julio Jones Solid:Santonio Holmes Man, hed be good if he could figure it out:Michael Crabtree What happened?Darrius Heyward-BeyTed Ginn JrLooking at that list isnt discouraging but still, it all has to do with situation. Do you think Calvin Johnson would have been as dominant if the Raiders chose him instead of JaMarcus Russell? Who knows for sure. The thing is that you can never be sure what a receiver is going to do in the next level and its often dictated by what team chooses you.Back to Blackmon, Blackmon is comparable to some of the elite potential receivers on that board. Blackmon, however, is not those receivers; he lacks one key attribute, speed. The receiver Blackmon is most compared to WR Dez Bryant of the Dallas Cowboys. I see a likeness between them when it comes to physical ability but in all the tape I watch Blackmon is not able to burst off the line and get separation from defensive backs.Blackmon has made a career out of punishing smaller, lower caliber cornerbacks in the Pac-12 and that may have inflated his stock some. There is no doubt that Blackmon is going to be an NFL receiver who is productive. My concern comes when teams draft him with the purpose of being a featured receiver. The majority of Blackmons game is played within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage. He can make plays in the open field because of his strength and field vision, but he isnt a threat as a deep play receiver and might find most of his success in the possession receiver role.Im not a draft expert but I will say this, if Blackmon doesnt put on a convincing display during speed drills at the combine/pro-days than I would stay away from him with a top 5 or maybe 10 pick. There is a very good chance Im wrong but there are too many sure bets in this draft and Blackmon truly is not one of them.
Even bigger question is why DThomas is "Elite Potential" but Julio Jones is only under "Great Potential
Finally someone who agrees with me.I found this article interesting.http://nflmocks.com/2012/02/20/is-justin-blackmon-overrated/
Is Justin Blackmon Overrated?Feb 20th at 10:45 am by Bo Is Justin Blackmon Overrated? Justin Blackmon is widely considered the best wide receiver in this class. He possesses great strength and catching ability. Statistically, Blackmon is off the charts and has been the best receiver in college football the last two years. However, these stats can be skewed; just because Blackmon is the best in college doesn’t mean he’s going to be the best choice in the NFL draft. See there is a such a different level of talent in college that it’s really hard to get a 100% accurate reading on how a player is going to translate into the NFL.I’ve compiled a list of first round receivers in the last 6 years and this is what I’ve come up with:2011-AJ Green (4th overall), Julio Jones (6th overall)2010-Demariyus Thomas (22nd overall), Dez Bryant (24th overall)2009-Darrius Heyward-Bey(7th overall), Michael Crabtree (10th overall)2008-None taken in first round2007-Calvin Johnson (2nd overall), Ted Ginn Jr.(9th overall)2006-Santonio Holmes (25th overall)Now, these players were considered some of the best coming out of college and if I were to break them down into to tiers of production it would look like this:Elite:Calvin Johnson Elite Potential
Of course it does. Just like it touts Ginn and DHB as examples of big time busts when neither came even close to grading out where they were taken and were widely seen as HUGE reaches. But let's not let that get in the way of trying to make a point we believe in.
why?
Well, some leagues (not mine) may have their draft before his Pro Day. Also, it's a fact that for some reason athletes always seem to turn up good 40 times during their Pro Day. I think the combine is a more accurate indication of their true 40 time,
His pro day is 1 week after the combine.
I guess some drafts may start on Sunday, hell, I don't know. What I do know is that most of us wanted to see him run at the combine because the Pro Day times are suspect.
Yep.All he can do is hurt his stock. If you're a proven commodity the worst thing you can do is take part in these competitions.Just watch the tape. He's legit.
Does Blackmon have a chronic foot problem and work ethic issues?
I kinda think you're both mostly right. That is, Crabtreee may have better speed, but Blackmon's hands are top-notch. Do you need to run 4.4 to be elite? Do ya? It hasn't always been that way. Is it now? (discuss...)ETA: I like wine!
What do Nicks and Boldin have that Blackmon doesn't?
My only issue is that Ginn and DHB were HUGE reaches. I doubt any team had DHB in the first round and I'm not sure about Ginn.
Fitzgerald is also taller and has unbelievable work ethic with no question marks off the field.
It was also noted earlier that pro teams don't seem to care as much about 40 times, either.There seem to be two different discussion going on at the sime time in this thread: NFL value/draft stock, and FF value/draft stock.
Apparently this guy did not see Heyward-Bey last season? He looks to finally have turned it around. What ever happened to giving a WR 3 years to settle in?
