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Blake Bortles - Official Thread (2 Viewers)

jurb26 said:
Mr. Retukes said:
jurb26 said:
This is what happens when rookies play too early. :shrug:

I think he will be fine.
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Your second sentence is a direct contradiction of the first one.
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Why? His career is over because he is having a tough rookie season?
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When rookie quarterbacks play too early (and play poorly at that), it can lead to shell shock and basically ruin their chance of ever being successful.

Bortles is on his way to becoming shell shocked and ruined.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Raider Nation said:
jurb26 said:
Raider Nation said:
I'll save everyone else the trouble today. He just can't keep making these terrible decisions. Awful.
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Finally willing to be critical I see.
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I'm always willing to be critical. Only I don't find joy in it.
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I'll be the mature one here and just say I told you so.
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:lmao:

Yeah, Bortles is a forgotten man already.

Go handle your Alshon bandwagon which has crashed and burned.

 
Mr. Retukes said:
jurb26 said:
Mr. Retukes said:
jurb26 said:
This is what happens when rookies play too early. :shrug:

I think he will be fine.
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Your second sentence is a direct contradiction of the first one.
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Why? His career is over because he is having a tough rookie season?
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When rookie quarterbacks play too early (and play poorly at that), it can lead to shell shock and basically ruin their chance of ever being successful.

Bortles is on his way to becoming shell shocked and ruined.
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You probably don't know much about his personality (I'm not being sarcastic). He's just about the cockiest kid who ever lived. I'm not too concerned about him becoming shell-shocked. He will improve as the team around him improves. It's that simple.

 
Raider Nation said:
ShaHBucks said:
Raider Nation said:
jurb26 said:
Raider Nation said:
I'll save everyone else the trouble today. He just can't keep making these terrible decisions. Awful.
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Finally willing to be critical I see.
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I'm always willing to be critical. Only I don't find joy in it.
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I'll be the mature one here and just say I told you so.
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:lmao:

Yeah, Bortles is a forgotten man already.

Go handle your Alshon bandwagon which has crashed and burned.
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He will be forgotten before he's becomes a Russell Wilson. Same toilet, different ####. I didn't think that statement needed much clarification to begin with, but stick with it. It's working out great for you. Sell Alshon in all formats. Hell, trade him for Bortles. I hope that helps.

 
I feel like we're going around in circles. Are you watching the games? A QB can make his teammates better if he has time to throw. JAX has the worst offensive line in the league. He has defenders in his face almost every time he sets his plant foot.

 
Bottom line, this board is based in fantasy football. He has had a HORRIBLE afternoon, and he still has 221 yards, 1 TD and 48 yards rushing. Certainly not great, but how can people deny the potential that's here when he's got a better supporting cast?

 
Raider Nation said:
I feel like we're going around in circles. Are you watching the games? A QB can make his teammates better if he has time to throw. JAX has the worst offensive line in the league. He has defenders in his face almost every time he sets his plant foot.
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This was true early on but hasn't been true the pat 2 games. The oline has played much better the last 2 weeks as has the running game. He's just making a ton of mistakes.

 
Rotoworld:

OC Jedd Fisch said if Blake Bortles can limit his interceptions to eight over the final eight games, "I think we would consider that a win."

Bortles leads the NFL with 12 interceptions even though he's only played in 5 1/2 games. The Jags are setting the bar low, hoping he can just finish his rookie season with 20 picks. It's unlikely to happen, especially with a tough schedule that includes a road date at a Cincy defense that's gaining health this week.

Source: Florida Times Union

Oct 28 - 8:39 AM
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He's as bad as Gabbert and Geno. He should have had like 3-4 INTs this game if they weren't dropped. He has no feel for the position. Another flameout...

 
ShaHBucks said:
He's as bad as Gabbert and Geno. He should have had like 3-4 INTs this game if they weren't dropped. He has no feel for the position. Another flameout...
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Ouch. I don't think he deserves to be compared to Gabbert. Bortles is a football player...Gabbert was a sissy. Bortles will motivate his team and be a leader. I'm willing to give him a little more of a leash than Gabbert. I knew when they drafted Gabbert that they would regret that pick. I'm more optimistic on Bortles. Give him an off season to work on the playbook and timing with his young WRs and I'd expect a solid leap next year. They will have another high pick to add (hopefully a stud O-lineman...look what Boselli did for the Jags!) to their cabinet.

This year is just a learning curve for Bortles. I'll judge more harshly in 2015 if he doesn't show improvement.

 
I just cut him. If I had held onto him to the end of the year he would be keeper-eligible for me but I'm not seeing anything that makes me feel like I won't be able to grab him in the later rounds anyway if I really want him.

 
Warpig said:
ShaHBucks said:
He's as bad as Gabbert and Geno. He should have had like 3-4 INTs this game if they weren't dropped. He has no feel for the position. Another flameout...
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Ouch. I don't think he deserves to be compared to Gabbert. Bortles is a football player...Gabbert was a sissy. Bortles will motivate his team and be a leader. I'm willing to give him a little more of a leash than Gabbert. I knew when they drafted Gabbert that they would regret that pick. I'm more optimistic on Bortles. Give him an off season to work on the playbook and timing with his young WRs and I'd expect a solid leap next year. They will have another high pick to add (hopefully a stud O-lineman...look what Boselli did for the Jags!) to their cabinet.

This year is just a learning curve for Bortles. I'll judge more harshly in 2015 if he doesn't show improvement.
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I think he, and a few posters here, earned it. He's one of the worse young QBs to come into the league lately... along with Gabbert and Geno ect.. He's going to kill the value of his young WRs(I'm a Shorts and Robinson fan, just not with Bortles). At best he's a boarder line starter. I don't see it in his play or his numbers to suggest otherwise.
 
ShaHBucks said:
Warpig said:
ShaHBucks said:
He's as bad as Gabbert and Geno. He should have had like 3-4 INTs this game if they weren't dropped. He has no feel for the position. Another flameout...
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Ouch. I don't think he deserves to be compared to Gabbert. Bortles is a football player...Gabbert was a sissy. Bortles will motivate his team and be a leader. I'm willing to give him a little more of a leash than Gabbert. I knew when they drafted Gabbert that they would regret that pick. I'm more optimistic on Bortles. Give him an off season to work on the playbook and timing with his young WRs and I'd expect a solid leap next year. They will have another high pick to add (hopefully a stud O-lineman...look what Boselli did for the Jags!) to their cabinet.

This year is just a learning curve for Bortles. I'll judge more harshly in 2015 if he doesn't show improvement.
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I think he, and a few posters here, earned it. He's one of the worse young QBs to come into the league lately... along with Gabbert and Geno ect.. He's going to kill the value of his young WRs(I'm a Shorts and Robinson fan, just not with Bortles). At best he's a boarder line starter. I don't see it in his play or his numbers to suggest otherwise.
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There is no comparison to gabbert. None. Bortles has stepped up in the pocket more in 7 starts than Gabbert has his entire career. Gabbert's rookie year, he was averaging 147 yards passing per game. While Bortles' QB rating is a pedestrian 72, Gabbert's rookie rating was 65. Bortles is actually completing passes at a 63% clip. Gabbert's rookie passing pct was 50.8.

Bortles is killing the value of the young WR? What was ARobinson/Hurns/MLee value after Game 2? And how about this crazy idea - Maybe the fact that the offense is predominately rookies and 2nd year players might take just a little while to gel. Really the only offensive starters with multiple years of starting experience are Beadles and the oft-injured Shorts. People laughed when the Jags said they wanted to let him sit all year. "Play the kid so he can learn." Well, he's getting some hard lessons.

Absolutely, I'm concerned about his decision-making. Ironically, after several risky throws that should have been picked, he says his end zone INT was meant to be thrown away but he didn't get enough on it.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Warpig said:
ShaHBucks said:
He's as bad as Gabbert and Geno. He should have had like 3-4 INTs this game if they weren't dropped. He has no feel for the position. Another flameout...
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Ouch. I don't think he deserves to be compared to Gabbert. Bortles is a football player...Gabbert was a sissy. Bortles will motivate his team and be a leader. I'm willing to give him a little more of a leash than Gabbert. I knew when they drafted Gabbert that they would regret that pick. I'm more optimistic on Bortles. Give him an off season to work on the playbook and timing with his young WRs and I'd expect a solid leap next year. They will have another high pick to add (hopefully a stud O-lineman...look what Boselli did for the Jags!) to their cabinet.

This year is just a learning curve for Bortles. I'll judge more harshly in 2015 if he doesn't show improvement.
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I think he, and a few posters here, earned it. He's one of the worse young QBs to come into the league lately... along with Gabbert and Geno ect.. He's going to kill the value of his young WRs(I'm a Shorts and Robinson fan, just not with Bortles). At best he's a boarder line starter. I don't see it in his play or his numbers to suggest otherwise.
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He's a rookie, dude. Stafford had a 6.0 YPA, 13 TD's and 20 INT's his rookie year.

With Calvin Johnson.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Warpig said:
ShaHBucks said:
He's as bad as Gabbert and Geno. He should have had like 3-4 INTs this game if they weren't dropped. He has no feel for the position. Another flameout...
Click to expand...
Ouch. I don't think he deserves to be compared to Gabbert. Bortles is a football player...Gabbert was a sissy. Bortles will motivate his team and be a leader. I'm willing to give him a little more of a leash than Gabbert. I knew when they drafted Gabbert that they would regret that pick. I'm more optimistic on Bortles. Give him an off season to work on the playbook and timing with his young WRs and I'd expect a solid leap next year. They will have another high pick to add (hopefully a stud O-lineman...look what Boselli did for the Jags!) to their cabinet.

This year is just a learning curve for Bortles. I'll judge more harshly in 2015 if he doesn't show improvement.
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I think he, and a few posters here, earned it. He's one of the worse young QBs to come into the league lately... along with Gabbert and Geno ect.. He's going to kill the value of his young WRs(I'm a Shorts and Robinson fan, just not with Bortles). At best he's a boarder line starter. I don't see it in his play or his numbers to suggest otherwise.
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you are a boarder line troll

 
Borderline?

Don't worry, before you can blink, he'll pretend this thread never existed. Bortles has been more than fine in 2 QB leagues. Someone needs to constantly remind TrollHBucks that this is a fantasy football board.

 
I like the pocket presence and poise that Bortles has shown, but his decision making and constant under-throws don't bode well (hilariously his two TDs to Hurns last week were both underthrows where Hurns made terrific adjustments to the ball that also happened to shake the defenders at the same time). I don't like Bortles for fantasy this year at all, but he shows a lot of potential. JAX has a good coach and I like the direction the whole team is moving in. Next year, I think I'll be all over Robinson, Hurns, and even Bortles in the later rounds. If their defense stays bad, jacksonville could be a fantasy dream next season.

 
Raider Nation said:
Borderline?

Don't worry, before you can blink, he'll pretend this thread never existed. Bortles has been more than fine in 2 QB leagues. Someone needs to constantly remind TrollHBucks that this is a fantasy football board.
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Oh, right.. Start the Cowboys D/st if they aren't owned.

 
Rotoworld:

Blake Bortles completed 22-of-37 passes for 290 yards and an interception Week 10 against the Cowboys.

The numbers do not look terrible, but Bortles struggled with accuracy all game. He routinely threw to the wrong shoulder of his receivers, and threw to no one on a couple occasions. He only turned the ball over once, though, and was sacked once after taking 19 during his first 7 games. Bortles will face the Colts Week 12 following the Jaguars' bye week.

Nov 9 - 4:47 PM
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The yardage always seems to be there. The TDs will come. Shoelace ran two of them in today.

Getting tired of watching the worm-killers on his incompletions though. He throws more ugly one-hoppers than Donovan McNabb. Looks like a guy who is trying too hard not to throw picks... which I suppose is a good thing.

 
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I'm the one that's supposed to disappear while this guy gets better each week? Doesn't look like the case.

 
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Try watching the games. He has no chance. Play-fake, turn around to see 3 guys in his face. Rinse and repeat.

As I've said all along, he's not the problem. This line is historically bad.

 
And as awful as things are, again, I'm in a 12-team, 2-QB league. He is currently QB 22, which makes him "startable"... :shrug:

He's also averaging almost exactly 3 points per week less than Stafford. Not everyone can start Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning.

 
ShaHBucks said:
Raider Nation said:
Try watching the games. He has no chance. Play-fake, turn around to see 3 guys in his face. Rinse and repeat.

As I've said all along, he's not the problem. This line is historically bad.
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I'm pretty sure he is the worst QB in the league dude. Someone has to be.
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Seems pretty clear it's either him or Bridgewater right now. I'd lean Bortles in that contest. I still think he's going to be fine,though.
 
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