Bo Jackson ran a 4.12 40 coming out of Auburn 1986 (1 Viewer)

[ravnzfan]

If I had to chose a top 5 RB's list of All Time, it would go like this:Barry SandersWalter PaytonEarl CampbellOj SimpsonEric Dickerson

"paging RavensUNFL, please pick up the white curtosey phone on the concourse....call from a Mr Jim Brown"what about the 126 TD's in a 118 game career didn't you like about Jim Brown?maybe that he only carried the ball OVER 300X's just once, yet saw 1000+ yd seasons 7-of-9?or that his rushing total of 12,312 (8th all-time) was gathered on just 2359 carries (19th)?do you understand the meaning of those 2 stats?or that his 106 ru TD's were 4th all-time?think about that for a minute....4th in ru TD's, while8th in ru yards and only19th in ru attempts no room in the "top 5" for that guy?...and on Bohe did more w/515 carries than anybody ever, considering his scheduleI'm not big on extrapolating "if he played 16 games...10 yrs..." and the like...BUT...Bo knew football and had top end speed like nobody his size--he was a very special player, to be sure, and probably the best pure athlete I've seen play professional sports

 

[KoolKat]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

 

[TheGreatest]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

 

[LHUCKS]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

 

[gump]

You are correct but it's not just that they are splitting out the time evenly, they are actually analyzing the tape with the race timer to see where he was at various intervals. 4.38 is likely the fastest any human has ever run 40 yards.

I understood that...but this is where I think the comparison is a little off. Johnson was building up for the second half of his race, while a guy running a 40 goes all out immediately. I think Johnson would run a faster 40 if he were just running a 40.

 

[KoolKat]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

You are correct but it's not just that they are splitting out the time evenly, they are actually analyzing the tape with the race timer to see where he was at various intervals. 4.38 is likely the fastest any human has ever run 40 yards.

I understood that...but this is where I think the comparison is a little off. Johnson was building up for the second half of his race, while a guy running a 40 goes all out immediately. I think Johnson would run a faster 40 if he were just running a 40.

I might buy that if Johnson wasn't also ahead of the world record time for the 50 meters (54 yards) during that race. The difference in time between the first 50 and second 50 meters in the 100 has more to do with the start being included in the first 50. There isn't any holding back over that distance.

 

[Bojang0301]

I know this is a football board but Bo should have committed to baseball. Him playing football was the greatest mistake any athlete has ever made.

 

[Blood Farmer]

I believe that Deon was reported to have run a 4.19 wasn't he? Yes we know the actual times are bogus but they do have a certain reproducibility at the combine.

Bo was the best athlete. Not staying healthy is a measure of greatness so he could never be recorded as on of the all-time great football players but when he was on the field no one else was more of an influence on the game.

Remember, Bo was 2nd string RB behind Marcus Allen. So, his lack of playing time because of limited carries per game as well as playing only slightly more than half of each season would have probably preventing him from topping the RB charts even without the career ending injury. But he was the best athlete without any doubt.

I never tire of the Brian Bosworth run. It was certainly fun to watch Bo play.

 

[LHUCKS]

I know this is a football board but Bo should have committed to baseball. Him playing football was the greatest mistake any athlete has ever made.

If anything, his injury contributed to the end of the major two-sport athlete...guys like Samardzija aren't toying with the idea of playing football any longer....the money is just too good in baseball.

 

[WhoDat]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

 

[wannabee]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

about two minutes in

 

[Native]

His 99-yard touchdown run against the Patriots may have been the single greatest run in the history of football.

 

[Native]

Your welcome.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...deoid=934241915

Wow.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

I haven't watched his college footage in a while. It's funny how many similarities there are to Adrian Peterson's highlights.

 

[Pots]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

Don't compare Adrian Peterson to Bo.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

Best athlete of my lifetime IMO.

Deion Sanders is the only other player in the conversation over the last couple of decades.

Interesting enough there is a highlight film a few slots down from the Tecmo Bowl run in the youtube queue that shows Jackson blowing through FSU's entire defense. It includes a nice shot of Jackson running past and through Sanders. If you are not old enough to have seen him play, I suggest watching the video. Nice shots of him laying a serious *** beating to just about everyone he played. I cannot get to youtube from this computer otherwise I would post the link. I think it was about 4-5 selections down and the video ran about 5 minutes.

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

I'm pretty sure I just did.

 

[gman8343]

I know this is a football board but Bo should have committed to baseball. Him playing football was the greatest mistake any athlete has ever made.

I think you can make a pretty good argument that Len Bias made a bigger mistake.

 

[Pots]

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

That you did.

 

[Arsenal of Doom]

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing. Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt. I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

:X Yeah, clearly there is no comparison.

 

[Yitbos69]

He runs right over Primetime.

Thats not saying much since just about everybody did.

Bo would run over every corner in the game right now...nothing to see here...two different kinds of athletes we're comparing.

Carl Lewis is also in the conversation.

I'm not comparing them based on that play, I'm just saying I enjoyed it.

I am not making a direct comparison either, which would be between Sanders and Jackson. I just remember watching that clip and noticing that Sanders had the angle. He had Jackson stopped or at least it appeared that way. Jackson found another gear; beat Sanders to the spot and shedded Sanders' tackle attempt.

I brought it up more for another point of perspective, as it appears we have some readers or active posters that remember Sanders' playing days...at least his NFL days...but have absolutely no recall of Jackson in college much less the NFL.

Clearly Michael "The Burner" Turner is a better comparison. On one of the Bo clips I thought I was watching Turner and on one of Turners clips I thought I was watching Bo.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Clearly Michael "The Burner" Turner is a better comparison. On one of the Bo clips I thought I was watching Turner and on one of Turners clips I thought I was watching Bo.

Much better comparison......they are both backups behind HOF RB's. AD will be a starter in the NFL.

 

[TC]

His 99-yard touchdown run against the Patriots may have been the single greatest run in the history of football.

May have been? May have been?? It certainly is.Guys.. Watch this. I *promise* you will agree that it is the greatest play ever. (You will also smile)

 

[KoolKat]

ESPN Bo Clip...What if?

 

[RavensUNFL]

"paging RavensUNFL, please pick up the white curtosey phone on the concourse....call from a Mr Jim Brown"

Your forget this part (And this is important) "These are my top 5 of players I have actually seen play"

I only saw the tail end of Oj's career, but I still did see him play and quite a bit of highlight film.

I think it's hard to say a guy is the greatest and never really even saw him play, stastically speaking Brown was a stud, but I PERSONALLY (Thats my opinion) don't think players from the 50's should even be remotely compared to players from the 70's forward.

Hopefully that clears up why I left him off "my list".

Tim

 

[KoolKat]

"paging RavensUNFL, please pick up the white curtosey phone on the concourse....call from a Mr Jim Brown"

Your forget this part (And this is important) "These are my top 5 of players I have actually seen play"

I only saw the tail end of Oj's career, but I still did see him play and quite a bit of highlight film.

I think it's hard to say a guy is the greatest and never really even saw him play, stastically speaking Brown was a stud, but I PERSONALLY (Thats my opinion) don't think players from the 50's should even be remotely compared to players from the 70's forward.

Hopefully that clears up why I left him off "my list".

Tim

That's where you're wrong, Brown had the size and speed to play today.

 

[Bob Henry]

His 99-yard touchdown run against the Patriots may have been the single greatest run in the history of football.

post of the day. Thanks MT.

 

[RavensUNFL]

"paging RavensUNFL, please pick up the white curtosey phone on the concourse....call from a Mr Jim Brown"

Your forget this part (And this is important) "These are my top 5 of players I have actually seen play"

I only saw the tail end of Oj's career, but I still did see him play and quite a bit of highlight film.

I think it's hard to say a guy is the greatest and never really even saw him play, stastically speaking Brown was a stud, but I PERSONALLY (Thats my opinion) don't think players from the 50's should even be remotely compared to players from the 70's forward.

Hopefully that clears up why I left him off "my list".

Tim

That's where you're wrong, Brown had the size and speed to play today.

I am glad you can form an opinion KK, Bronco's fans just continue to amaze me.

I agree he was a good size back, however, how do you know how fast he was? I think it very unlikely they even kept 40 times or cared for that matter. Your guessing he was fast cause the LB'ers back then couldn't catch him? Please, he couldn't beat 75% of the lb'ers to the corner today and none of the safeties, nor would he be as big as them. That's all I will say on that, I hate comparing then to now, because the game has evolved and become such a science of skills and the athletes are so much bigger and faster the comparison's aren't legitimate.

 

[KoolKat]

"paging RavensUNFL, please pick up the white curtosey phone on the concourse....call from a Mr Jim Brown"

Your forget this part (And this is important) "These are my top 5 of players I have actually seen play"

I only saw the tail end of Oj's career, but I still did see him play and quite a bit of highlight film.

I think it's hard to say a guy is the greatest and never really even saw him play, stastically speaking Brown was a stud, but I PERSONALLY (Thats my opinion) don't think players from the 50's should even be remotely compared to players from the 70's forward.

Hopefully that clears up why I left him off "my list".

Tim

That's where you're wrong, Brown had the size and speed to play today.

I am glad you can form an opinion KK, Bronco's fans just continue to amaze me.

I agree he was a good size back, however, how do you know how fast he was? I think it very unlikely they even kept 40 times or cared for that matter. Your guessing he was fast cause the LB'ers back then couldn't catch him? Please, he couldn't beat 75% of the lb'ers to the corner today and none of the safeties, nor would he be as big as them. That's all I will say on that, I hate comparing then to now, because the game has evolved and become such a science of skills and the athletes are so much bigger and faster the comparison's aren't legitimate.

You forget that if Brown were playing today, his linemen would also be bigger, as would his other teammates. Brown was 6' 2" 232 Lbs, I'd say that is plenty big, and bigger than just about every feature back in the league today. As far as speed I'd say Brown was fast enough to play today, you disagree and admittedly have never seen him play. I'll take my own eyes over your speculation. Not to mention speed is not everything in football, vision and instinct are the biggest thing IMO, just look at Byron Hanspard. Also, most people don't realize Brown was also excellent as a WR out of the backfield. I'd say he compares most to Larry Johnson in today's game, and I don't think if you put Johnson on the Brown's in Jim Brown's day he could have been any more if even as effective as Brown was.

 

[Kleck.]

His 99-yard touchdown run against the Patriots may have been the single greatest run in the history of football.

77 posts later and I finally check out this thread. I just knew I must have been missing something great and this is IT!

 

[SuperJohn96]

This one time, Chuck Norris tried to punch Bo Jackson in his face and Bo Jackson said, Bo Knows Kung Fu, and ran circles around Chuck Norris as Chuck Norris' arms flailed about aimlessly.

Then Jack Bauer shot Bo Jackson in the hip just because he could.

 

[ravnzfan]

Your forget this part (And this is important) "These are my top 5 of players I have actually seen play"

I only saw the tail end of Oj's career, but I still did see him play and quite a bit of highlight film.

I think it's hard to say a guy is the greatest and never really even saw him play, stastically speaking Brown was a stud, but I PERSONALLY (Thats my opinion) don't think players from the 50's should even be remotely compared to players from the 70's forward.

Hopefully that clears up why I left him off "my list".

Tim

That's where you're wrong, Brown had the size and speed to play today.

I am glad you can form an opinion KK, Bronco's fans just continue to amaze me. I agree he was a good size back, however, how do you know how fast he was? I think it very unlikely they even kept 40 times or cared for that matter. Your guessing he was fast cause the LB'ers back then couldn't catch him? Please, he couldn't beat 75% of the lb'ers to the corner today and none of the safeties, nor would he be as big as them. That's all I will say on that, I hate comparing then to now, because the game has evolved and become such a science of skills and the athletes are so much bigger and faster the comparison's aren't legitimate.

You forget that if Brown were playing today, his linemen would also be bigger, as would his other teammates. Brown was 6' 2" 232 Lbs, I'd say that is plenty big, and bigger than just about every feature back in the league today. As far as speed I'd say Brown was fast enough to play today, you disagree and admittedly have never seen him play. I'll take my own eyes over your speculation. Not to mention speed is not everything in football, vision and instinct are the biggest thing IMO, just look at Byron Hanspard. Also, most people don't realize Brown was also excellent as a WR out of the backfield. I'd say he compares most to Larry Johnson in today's game, and I don't think if you put Johnson on the Brown's in Jim Brown's day he could have been any more if even as effective as Brown was.

I don't understand how you'd discount anyone that played prior to the 70's...Johnny Unitas threw a TD pass in 49 straight games--he's not "top 5" QB material?Butkus not "top 5" MLB?

I could go on for days...but I can see this will result in

I'll leave it at that....