Boomer Esiason: "Favre has been horrendous" (1 Viewer)

[DawgPoundNJ]

As a Browns fan that is somewhat force fed the Jets and Giants and has had an eye on Favre, I think Favre is the right guy at the right time for the Jets. He made a couple of throws in the Dolphins game that Chad just couldn't make. He's always played this way, what is Boomer's motivation to call him out now for it?

Keep it classy, Boomer.

Punk move

Favre 'has been horrendous,' Esiason says

Analyst: 'Interceptions he's thrown the last couple of weeks, I can't explain'

NBCSports.com

updated 27 minutes ago

How is Brett Favre playing this season? Former New York Jets quarterback Boomer Esiason pulled no punches in voicing his opinion.

How about "horrendous?" Or "maddening?"

"Brett's performance the last three weeks has just really been horrendous," Esiason told Boston radio station WEEI this week. "He has been maddening. . . . A couple of the interceptions he's thrown the last couple of weeks, I can't explain. People ask me, 'Why is he doing this? Why is he doing that?' There's no answer for it other than the fact that he's completely just throwing the ball up and hoping somebody on his team will come down with it."

Esiason told the New York Daily News that he has nothing against Favre, and praised his resilience in the wild fourth quarter Sunday against the Chiefs. But he elaborated on his remakes made on the radio.

"I've been saying since the day he got here this isn't going to be easy for him," Esiason told the Daily News. "He's trying to make every big play, which is a bad thing. He has thrown horrendous interceptions, and no team can afford turnovers.

"It's a weird dynamic, having a future Hall of Famer who's older than the coach," Esiason continued. (Favre is 38, coach Eric Mangini is 37.

"Knowing Mangini and (general manager Mike) Tannenbaum, and how organized they are and how they run it like a dictatorship, how do they approach Brett Favre and say, 'You have to knock this off'? If this were any other quarterback, do you think he'd be playing?"

Favre has completed 68.5 percent of his passes this year for 1,611 yards, throwing 15 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions. The Jets are 4-3.

 

[Steady Mooobin]

I have always tried to like Boomer. I thought he was a very good QB. He played here locally at Maryland.

Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. His ego is just way too big for his giant head.

 

[brednbuddah]

I sometimes listen to ¨Boomer and Carton¨ on 660 AM and Esiason comes across very pompous at times, but Carton does a great job of calling him out on some of his outlandish claims. Carton rides him pretty good when he senses Esaison getting upset.

As far as his ¨analysis¨ of Favre, that´s his ego talking. He did/does the same thing with Marino on CBS. Favre is a cowboy, always has been always will be. Did he expect that to change with the uniform? Esiason´s opinion doesn´t carry much weight with me.

 

[awesomeness]

I have always tried to like Boomer. I thought he was a very good QB. He played here locally at Maryland.

Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. His ego is just way too big for his giant head.

What do you think about Esiason?

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

I don't think he's been horrendous, but he's made the Packers look pretty smart for letting him go. I don't think anyone can say Rodgers has played worse than Favre.

 

[Reaper]

What has been Horrendous is the PLAY CALLING...

No way in hell should Favre have been in position to throw some of those balls and he's taken way too much of a beating when they should be running down the throat of teams like KC until they prove they can't...

Genius to come out in the Raider came with empty backfield and let Favre take an absolute beating.. and then wonder why he's a little woozy later on.. Also genius to stick with it for the better part of the 1st half.

The hits this guy has taken has been incredible.... If Pennington took one of those he's be in the booth with Boomer.

The Play calling just makes me throw up in my mouth - I'm pretty fed up - Nothing worse than seeing a team with some talent that could be a bit better but, just game plans itself into the turf....

Now the easy part of the schedule is over and I'm pretty much afraid to look.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

I don't think he's been horrendous, but he's made the Packers look pretty smart for letting him go. I don't think anyone can say Rodgers has played worse than Favre.

Totally different discussion.

 

[PatsFanCT]

And what part of Boomer's analysis was wrong?

 

[Reaper]

I don't think he's been horrendous, but he's made the Packers look pretty smart for letting him go. I don't think anyone can say Rodgers has played worse than Favre.

I kinda think Favre would look a little better than he does now playing with the team that went 13-3 last year?That said, I think it was a good move for the Pack to move on and a no brainer move for the Jets to roll the dice for a season..... In the end the Jets still need a QB for the future and now, possibly an offensive coordinator.

 

[jurb26]

Favre has been exactly what should have been expected so far this season. Inconsistent. He will look great some weeks and awful others. I said it prior to the season and I still believe it now. Favre isn't going to give this Jets team a whole lot of wins this year that they weren't already going to get anyway.

 

[T Bell]

Meh, Boomer's a local boy who was a one-time Jets QB and who has an mouth to match his ego. This doesn't surprise me.

That said, Favre is mistake prone and has thrown some pretty mystifying INT's. Then again, that's not news either as that goes with the territory with Favre.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

As a Browns fan that is somewhat force fed the Jets and Giants and has had an eye on Favre, I think Favre is the right guy at the right time for the Jets. He made a couple of throws in the Dolphins game that Chad just couldn't make. He's always played this way, what is Boomer's motivation to call him out now for it?

Keep it classy, Boomer.

Punk move

Favre 'has been horrendous,' Esiason says

Analyst: 'Interceptions he's thrown the last couple of weeks, I can't explain'

NBCSports.com

updated 27 minutes ago

How is Brett Favre playing this season? Former New York Jets quarterback Boomer Esiason pulled no punches in voicing his opinion.

How about "horrendous?" Or "maddening?"

"Brett's performance the last three weeks has just really been horrendous," Esiason told Boston radio station WEEI this week. "He has been maddening. . . . A couple of the interceptions he's thrown the last couple of weeks, I can't explain. People ask me, 'Why is he doing this? Why is he doing that?' There's no answer for it other than the fact that he's completely just throwing the ball up and hoping somebody on his team will come down with it."

Esiason told the New York Daily News that he has nothing against Favre, and praised his resilience in the wild fourth quarter Sunday against the Chiefs. But he elaborated on his remakes made on the radio.

"I've been saying since the day he got here this isn't going to be easy for him," Esiason told the Daily News. "He's trying to make every big play, which is a bad thing. He has thrown horrendous interceptions, and no team can afford turnovers.

"It's a weird dynamic, having a future Hall of Famer who's older than the coach," Esiason continued. (Favre is 38, coach Eric Mangini is 37.

"Knowing Mangini and (general manager Mike) Tannenbaum, and how organized they are and how they run it like a dictatorship, how do they approach Brett Favre and say, 'You have to knock this off'? If this were any other quarterback, do you think he'd be playing?"

Favre has completed 68.5 percent of his passes this year for 1,611 yards, throwing 15 touchdown passes and 11 interceptions. The Jets are 4-3.

Now the bolded part I can get behind. It 's not secret that when Mike Sherman was in Green Bay, Brett Favre was calling the shots. And it showed with the risk taking. When McCarthy took over, Favre bought in and was able to play within the system a bit more. Now we're seeing the scenario play out where Favre is not being challenged by the staff, at least in my opinion. There's evidence out there that this is when he plays his most reckless football.

 

[MCguidance]

What has been Horrendous is the PLAY CALLING...No way in hell should Favre have been in position to throw some of those balls and he's taken way too much of a beating when they should be running down the throat of teams like KC until they prove they can't...Genius to come out in the Raider came with empty backfield and let Favre take an absolute beating.. and then wonder why he's a little woozy later on.. Also genius to stick with it for the better part of the 1st half.The hits this guy has taken has been incredible.... If Pennington took one of those he's be in the booth with Boomer.The Play calling just makes me throw up in my mouth - I'm pretty fed up - Nothing worse than seeing a team with some talent that could be a bit better but, just game plans itself into the turf....Now the easy part of the schedule is over and I'm pretty much afraid to look.

Pretty much agree with all of this other than he still is making bad decisions. That show is becoming un-listenable. Boomer also said something about another QB, Aikman, after Troy did the Cowboys game. He has been VERY critical of people lately.

 

[Sweet Love]

I am a Jets fan and am pretty happy with Favre...sure he is a "gun slinger", but at least he has a gun. You have to understand a few things about Jets fans...we are used to losing and just want to do it with grace. Favre provides the "grace", so if the team goes 10-6 and we make the playoffs, good for us; if they go 8-8 and miss and Favre retires, at least the ride was fun. I like watching this team, and it was worth burning a 3rd round pick in 2009 for the show I get to see each week.

The problem with Boomer is that he was expected to be Favre-like and the end result was more O'Donnell-like. The fans never warmed up to him, so I would take his views on the Jets with a grain of salt.

 

[Steady Mooobin]

Meh, Boomer's a local boy who was a one-time Jets QB and who has an mouth to match his ego. This doesn't surprise me.

That said, Favre is mistake prone and has thrown some pretty mystifying INT's. Then again, that's not news either as that goes with the territory with Favre.

In other news, water is wet, grass is green, and Redman Tatum Bell is right.

 

[travdogg]

The way I see it two teams got better from Favre going to the Jets. Those teams are Green Bay and Miami.

 

[DeCleater]

Boomer is still pissed at Farve for the comeback in Farve's first game at Lambeau.

 

[Gottabesweet]

Favre will destroy the Bills pass defense this week since the Bills can't get any pressure.

 

[elcohiba]

Note to self.... bench Bills D at home, off loss, against an Int and Fumble prone div opp. Guess I'll go w/Vikes

 

[Bri]

I have always tried to like Boomer. I thought he was a very good QB. He played here locally at Maryland. Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. His ego is just way too big for his giant head.

He needs to lose this notion inside his head that he was the greatest QB ever, especially when talking about Jet or Bengal QBs. If I hear that topic, I tune him out. I do think he's very good, entertaining otherwise. I actually like his critiques of WRs and maybe that is where his QB experience needs to lead him. I have little doubt in my mind that he'd be one of the best WR coaches or scouts in the league. It's "once in a blue moon" but my oh my can he dissect everything about a WRs game. Maybe it's scout, let him pick thru the slew of so called college studs at WR. My advice, ignore the QB talk and hope for WR in detail.

 

[T Bell]

I have always tried to like Boomer. I thought he was a very good QB. He played here locally at Maryland.

Something about him just rubs me the wrong way. His ego is just way too big for his giant head.

He needs to lose this notion inside his head that he was the greatest QB ever, especially when talking about Jet or Bengal QBs. If I hear that topic, I tune him out. I do think he's very good, entertaining otherwise. I actually like his critiques of WRs and maybe that is where his QB experience needs to lead him. I have little doubt in my mind that he'd be one of the best WR coaches or scouts in the league. It's "once in a blue moon" but my oh my can he dissect everything about a WRs game. Maybe it's scout, let him pick thru the slew of so called college studs at WR. My advice, ignore the QB talk and hope for WR in detail.

 

[menobrown]

I guess between this and Boomer recently ranting against Troy Aikmans announcing job I'm led to believe Boomer has some serious jealous issues.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I rank Boomer as the 23rd best QB of all time. He's got a legitimate argument for the HOF, and only Ken Anderson (among those eligible) has a better one.

I also agree with Boomer that Favre has made some awful, awful throws. But overall, Favre's been way better than horrendous.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I rank Boomer as the 23rd best QB of all time. He's got a legitimate argument for the HOF, and only Ken Anderson (among those eligible) has a better one.

I also agree with Boomer that Favre has made some awful, awful throws. But overall, Favre's been way better than horrendous.

Well, the headlines and even some of the article seems misleading. The actual quote from Boomer just says that Favre has been horrendous over the past 3 weeks. In the last 3 weeks he's thrown 3 TDs and 7 INTs. That's pretty horrendous. Especially since those games were against the Bengals, Raiders and Chiefs. I also remember a few throws in games earlier in the season that were absolutely ridiculous but ended up either falling incomplete or his receiver made a miracle catch on. I think one of them was in the first game of the season against the Jets when Favre just tossed one up and the one Jet in the middle of 3 Dolphins just happened to catch the ball for a TD.

 

[Borat]

Keep it classy, Boomer.

It's not classy to call it as he sees it? He's giving his opinion. Just because you might disagree with it, that doesn't mean Boomer is lacking in class.

 

[sho nuff]

I guess between this and Boomer recently ranting against Troy Aikmans announcing job I'm led to believe Boomer has some serious jealous issues.

Sadly...in both cases he was close to right on the money (well...a bit overboard even here).But Greenberg said the same thing after the game the week before. That Favre has played about 5-6 quarters of very good football (2nd half against SD...after he basically gave it away in the first half... and the Zona game). The rest has been either ok...or just downright bad.They went to OT and lost against the Raiders and lost. Needed a last minute comeback and a great catch to beat the Chiefs...needing that last drive because he threw the game away not long before that.Yes...I would agree playcalling is bad...but his decisions are even worse right now. He is reverting back to that 2005 Brett and that is not a good thing.Its not just the INTs...but its INTs returned for 6 and INTs that lead to points for the other team.And I agree with the earlier posts that coaching may have alot to do with it...not his ability.Brett has always been a pretty loose cannon who needed someone to bring him back down to earth. Holmgren did it...Sherman could not...McCarthy did it...does not seem like Mangini is.

 

[phthalatemagic]

11 picks through 7 games.

 

[Oh the Humanity]

And what part of Boomer's analysis was wrong?

The conclusion. 15 TDs/ 11 Int's is spotty. 1611 yds in 7 games is decent. 68.5% pass completions is pretty good. 4-3 on a team that won 4 games last year with pretty much the same personel other than at QB is very good. None of this is horrendous.

 

[Borat]

And what part of Boomer's analysis was wrong?

The conclusion. 15 TDs/ 11 Int's is spotty. 1611 yds in 7 games is decent. 68.5% pass completions is pretty good. 4-3 on a team that won 4 games last year with pretty much the same personel other than at QB is very good. None of this is horrendous.

1611 yards passing is almost meaningless - he ranks 15th in the league, behind the likes of Matt Schaub, Kyle Orton, and JT O'Sullivan.And this is a team that added Calvin Pace, Damien Woody, Tony Richardson, Alan Faneca, and Kris Jenkins in the offseason.

Not to mention that you're giving us full season stats, when Boomer said, "Brett's performance the last three weeks has just really been horrendous."

 

[[scooter]]

Boomer is still pissed at Farve for the comeback in Farve's first game at Lambeau.

 

[FUBAR]

He's 4th in the NFL in %, 13th in rating, a 15/11 TD:INT ratio.

The only things "horrible" in his play may be the # of sacks he's taken. Play calling could be a lot better, but is that his fault?

 

[Tanner9919]

I guess between this and Boomer recently ranting against Troy Aikmans announcing job I'm led to believe Boomer has some serious jealous issues.

Sadly...in both cases he was close to right on the money (well...a bit overboard even here).But Greenberg said the same thing after the game the week before. That Favre has played about 5-6 quarters of very good football (2nd half against SD...after he basically gave it away in the first half... and the Zona game). The rest has been either ok...or just downright bad.They went to OT and lost against the Raiders and lost. Needed a last minute comeback and a great catch to beat the Chiefs...needing that last drive because he threw the game away not long before that.Yes...I would agree playcalling is bad...but his decisions are even worse right now. He is reverting back to that 2005 Brett and that is not a good thing.Its not just the INTs...but its INTs returned for 6 and INTs that lead to points for the other team.And I agree with the earlier posts that coaching may have alot to do with it...not his ability.Brett has always been a pretty loose cannon who needed someone to bring him back down to earth. Holmgren did it...Sherman could not...McCarthy did it...does not seem like Mangini is.

Frankly, I like Boomer's candor, his way of calling it as he sees it..too many times we have to listen to the commentator/sports talk radio person talk 'glowingly' about someone who doesn't deserve such praise ( see Hodge or Jaws)Favre has been absolutely dreadful since donning a Jets uniform.Pennington could have and would have done better than that up to this point, just look at his stats in Miami - the guy started an NFL reg season game a few days after arriving there, and has looked MUCH better than Favre has in a Jets uniform..perhaps thats what Boomer is getting at, i.e., the Jets didn't need to make a trade to acquire Favre..The other poster was also correct in saying that the play calling has been atrocious..Shottenheimer should be fired at some point..this offense is stuck in reverse..

 

[Reaper]

I rank Boomer as the 23rd best QB of all time. He's got a legitimate argument for the HOF, and only Ken Anderson (among those eligible) has a better one.

I also agree with Boomer that Favre has made some awful, awful throws. But overall, Favre's been way better than horrendous.

Well, the headlines and even some of the article seems misleading. The actual quote from Boomer just says that Favre has been horrendous over the past 3 weeks. In the last 3 weeks he's thrown 3 TDs and 7 INTs. That's pretty horrendous. Especially since those games were against the Bengals, Raiders and Chiefs. I also remember a few throws in games earlier in the season that were absolutely ridiculous but ended up either falling incomplete or his receiver made a miracle catch on. I think one of them was in the first game of the season against the Jets when Favre just tossed one up and the one Jet in the middle of 3 Dolphins just happened to catch the ball for a TD.

a 4th down play after the Kicker got hurt so, they had to go for it - I thought that play was BRILLIANT to throw it up there instead of just giving up the ball at the 20 or wherever it was....

A lot of QB's probably eat the ball there - Favre got a TD.

 

[Borat]

He's 4th in the NFL in %, 13th in rating, a 15/11 TD:INT ratio.The only things "horrible" in his play may be the # of sacks he's taken. Play calling could be a lot better, but is that his fault?

He's thrown 3 TDs to 7 INTs over the period of time that Boomer is talking about. That's not horrible?

 

[Reaper]

I guess between this and Boomer recently ranting against Troy Aikmans announcing job I'm led to believe Boomer has some serious jealous issues.

Sadly...in both cases he was close to right on the money (well...a bit overboard even here).But Greenberg said the same thing after the game the week before. That Favre has played about 5-6 quarters of very good football (2nd half against SD...after he basically gave it away in the first half... and the Zona game). The rest has been either ok...or just downright bad.

They went to OT and lost against the Raiders and lost. Needed a last minute comeback and a great catch to beat the Chiefs...needing that last drive because he threw the game away not long before that.

Yes...I would agree playcalling is bad...but his decisions are even worse right now. He is reverting back to that 2005 Brett and that is not a good thing.

Its not just the INTs...but its INTs returned for 6 and INTs that lead to points for the other team.

And I agree with the earlier posts that coaching may have alot to do with it...not his ability.

Brett has always been a pretty loose cannon who needed someone to bring him back down to earth. Holmgren did it...Sherman could not...McCarthy did it...does not seem like Mangini is.

IMO they're not even trying - Ever since they got criticized for "Not letting Favre be Favre" in the Pats game and ran 4 times at the Goal line, they have been passing when they should be running way too often...IMO, if Favre doesn't take that absolute Beating at the start of the Raider game and get pounded into the turf when the Jets should have been establishing a running game that obviously worked later, Favre is healthier and has more wits to make better plays.... Thomas Jones 1st running play is on their 3rd possession with 1 minute left in the 1st qtr and goes for 14!!!!!! Guy gets the ball 7 times for the 1st half against a team you should pound.... UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!! Guy was ripping over 8 yards/ carry!!!!!!

And Those hits with an empty backfield were just CRUSHING - If you took Brady, Manning or any QB and started off a game with 4-5 hits like that, I'll put my money on a QB making some questionable decisions from there on out.....

A lot of QB's wouldn't have stayed in the game, Ive seen Chad go down with a lot less than that...

 

[Kiddnets]

How can you take a guy seriously who still bashes Rich Kotite! Boomer wanted to be the JEt savior so bad and he was a part of the most embarassing chapter in Jet history. He's bitter when it comes to the JEts

Favre has been lousy but I put a lot of it on the coaching staff.