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Braces for kids - paging Dentist. (1 Viewer)

I had braces for five years and I still have an over bite. Worse thing was this piece they had attached that basically covered the roof of my mouth and I had to turn a key every night. Not only very painful but I couldn't talk and food got stuck up there. Id rather have horrible teeth than go through that again. Another thing I hated was when they didn't cut the wires enough and they dug into my cheeks. They gave you wax to put in the edges but that didn't work. I often had to go back in to cut them. I may have had a horrible orthodontist. 

 
My daughter is missing lateral incisors on both sides at the top. She was just born without them. 

As you can imagine, he teeth are widely gapped as they just moved to fill in the empty space. 

She is 11 and has had braces since Nov. I am stunned how much her teeth have moved back to their correct position in such a short time. 

When the spacing is complete she will get temporary teeth until she is old enough to get implants. 

 
CletiusMaximus said:
In my case, this fee quote is supposedly "all-in", but I've got essentially nothing in writing from the ortho on that. I don't want to get lawyerly on it with him, but I need to have a clear understanding of what is covered by this fee and where the gaps might be. My wife specifically asked what happens if he bashes his mouth playing sports and the braces get wrecked, was told that's all covered.
Pretreatment estimate.  Ask him to get one from your insurance company and it should line out what he's planning to do.

 
CletiusMaximus said:
In my case, this fee quote is supposedly "all-in", but I've got essentially nothing in writing from the ortho on that. I don't want to get lawyerly on it with him, but I need to have a clear understanding of what is covered by this fee and where the gaps might be. My wife specifically asked what happens if he bashes his mouth playing sports and the braces get wrecked, was told that's all covered.
Based on my experience, I'd make sure to get it in writing.  My step daughter had braces from 4th or 5th grade and didn't get them off until we gave up on the process and forced the orthodontist to take them off when she was getting her senior pictures done.  We paid upfront, split the payment 50/50 the first and second year.  Was supposed to be a three year process max.  Of course the orthodontist kept finding new things to correct, and turned into a massively long process.  By the time she got to late middle school or high school, we started getting nickled and dimed three out of every four visits.  Original bid only covered one retainer, but of course she needed several (she broke or lost one I'm sure, but then she needed a spreader, then she needed a different one to go with the headgear, then of course she needed the headgear).

After all was said and done we went to a different dentist for her and the first thing they said was how messed up her bite was.  Thanks ortho-man!

 
Every night? I had to wear that roof thing all day and night
Is this where we reenact the scene from Jaws and tell our horror stories?  I myself had braces from 4th grade until 10th grade.  I didn't have a retainer or a spacer, but it was the old school metal bastards.  Rips my cheeks up something awful (still have loose flaps of skin on the inside from the braces).  Had them leave the wires too long and it would poke the back of my mouth, and my parents refused to bring me back to get them cut and had to try to get the wax to cover it, which of course it wouldn't stay in place.

That guy saw my parents coming from a mile away.  My sister had braces and it went great for her.  No issues.  Then my brother came in to get his teeth straightened.  His teeth got straight, then then he had a huge underbite, and the ortho recomended surgery (break the jaw, move it back in place, wire the jaw shut and let it heal).  He went through that, only to have his jaw grow more because he had it done too soon.

Then they put them on me.  "He only needs them on the bottom to make room for some teeth to come in.  Short term" they said.  Then the teeth came in and they never came off. Then they found a reason to put them on top and five years later they eventually came off.  Of course I have an underbite myself, and the teeth on the bottom aren't even straight.

 
I don't want my kids to get braces until later on.

I wore braces from 11-16... fast forward 25 years and I am wearing Invisalign because my original braces came out before i was done growing/wisdom teeth etc.  Hello crowding all over again.

 
Anybody know anything about SmileDirectClub?  Looks like an Invisalign knockoff by mail for about $2k. 

My 12 yo son has had braces once already which cost just under $3k with insurance covering $1500 of that.  Now, they want to do it again and quoted nearly $6k and no insurance coverage this time.  I need to call for an explanation of why round 2 is so much than round 1, but meanwhile we're looking at alternatives for now or later. 

 
My 12 year old was scheduled to have his braces put on tomorrow ($6,200 all in). Today they called and said they noticed something in his X-rays and want to send him to a TMJ Dr. for analysis.  They admitted to my wife on the phone the reason this happened is because they didn't really look at the X-rays until today, the day before. We've scheduled a number of things around this - more than just a minor thing for us to re-schedule.  I've got a bad feeling about this.  TMJ is one of those things I don't really trust. We're thinking about just going to someone else.

@Dentist ??

 
Our son has to get a retainer and the cost that was quoted to us seems crazy. The cost of the retainer plus visits during the course of the retainer usage was quoted at 5,400.

If he needs braces later on they said they’d reduce the braces cost by what we paid for the retainer.

That cost of 5,400 seems insanely high, right?

 
Our son has to get a retainer and the cost that was quoted to us seems crazy. The cost of the retainer plus visits during the course of the retainer usage was quoted at 5,400.

If he needs braces later on they said they’d reduce the braces cost by what we paid for the retainer.

That cost of 5,400 seems insanely high, right?
I would dump that orthodontist.  

 
paging @Dentist

As with most of the country emergency only appointments are being scheduled in these parts. Well I understand it is not an emergency, at what point should I be concerned that my daughters braces have not been tended to? 

 
paging @Dentist

As with most of the country emergency only appointments are being scheduled in these parts. Well I understand it is not an emergency, at what point should I be concerned that my daughters braces have not been tended to? 
I have a close friend that's an orthodontist.  He's not open.  He's admitted this will add time to everyone's treatment and that he's probably going to have to unmove some intended movements in teeth but that everything is going to be ok

 
Anybody know anything about SmileDirectClub?  Looks like an Invisalign knockoff by mail for about $2k. 

My 12 yo son has had braces once already which cost just under $3k with insurance covering $1500 of that.  Now, they want to do it again and quoted nearly $6k and no insurance coverage this time.  I need to call for an explanation of why round 2 is so much than round 1, but meanwhile we're looking at alternatives for now or later. 


What did you end up doing?

We were just given the choice of braces, ceramic braces or invisiline for $6500, for our 12 year old son. He made the decision to go with ceramic braces, but I started researching invisiline alternatives at the suggestion of a friend.

 
Black dot.

We did Invisalign for 13-14yo floppinho. 8 months, on to retainers now. A lot of his friends went this route. Seems like it works well if your kid is vigilant about wearing them (he is, his friends haven't been).

10yo floppinha may need something as well, but only after baby teeth are all out.

 
I've had two kids with braces. We went the traditional route with the orthodontist. My wife pays the bills, so I am on a Don't Ask, She Don't Tell policy.   :lol:

Oldest son (16) is done and his teeth look great. Daughter (11) will need some work done here in a couple of years (she is missing two teeth that never came in) but her jaw line and teeth are straight. 

So I can't complain. Our orthodontist mapped out a plan years ago and he has been right on target the whole time.  

 
I've had two kids with braces. We went the traditional route with the orthodontist. My wife pays the bills, so I am on a Don't Ask, She Don't Tell policy.   :lol:

Oldest son (16) is done and his teeth look great. Daughter (11) will need some work done here in a couple of years (she is missing two teeth that never came in) but her jaw line and teeth are straight. 

So I can't complain. Our orthodontist mapped out a plan years ago and he has been right on target the whole time.  
:lmao:

We’re on the same policy here. Every now and then I’m like WTF but I ain’t taking the money with me and there’s plenty for later if im lucky to live long enough. 

 
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:lmao:

We’re on the same policy here. Every now and then I’m like WTF but I ain’t taking the money with me and there’s plenty for later if im lucky to live long enough. 
My wife is good at this. 

Whenever we have a large medical bill she asks the doctor if they are willing to take payments. Our orthodontist is great about this. So we pay him whatever the payment is (I honestly have no idea). For families like ours trying to build savings it really helps out for stuff like this.  So that's what she does.  We pay what we can and whenever we end up with a large work bonus or something she uses that money to pay off things like this. 

We've also done this with hospital bills when we've had to go for emergencies.

 
Dancing the dance now, with my daughter. Our insurance provides for child dental care, so hopefully not too much out of pocket. 

 
Black dot.

We did Invisalign for 13-14yo floppinho. 8 months, on to retainers now. A lot of his friends went this route. Seems like it works well if your kid is vigilant about wearing them (he is, his friends haven't been).

10yo floppinha may need something as well, but only after baby teeth are all out.
My 12 YO has invisalign now. Honestly hes been awesome with them. Its been 100x better than braces for us. Well worth the money. We paid around $5k (in monthly payments) after insurance

 
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Just went through this with my oldest kid.  Have a really good dental plan.  Got the quote for $6500, insurance will cover $2000.  Looked at my kids teeth, they look fine.  No one will confuse them for a Brit so we'll pass on braces for now.

 
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Girls are 8 & 10.

Orthodontists are suggesting spacers and then braces. They say by going it now they will "likely" not need them later. They say this method "may" eliminate unnecessary extractions.

What's the FBG theory? Is this the new and improved way of doing things or the new and yet unproven method?

Will answer yours.


Wow this is an old bump. Girls will be 16 & 18 soon. Both finished 2 sets of braces each. 

First set was covered by my wifes insurance and the second set was covered after the kids went onto my health insurance. We are very fortunate to have better than top notch insurance. 

They were ~$6k each so it was ~$25k worth of dental work. That also included all the retainers and headgear and whatever else. Did NOT include the lost retainer. We also had to pay for the encapsulant goop they put on the kids teeth which im all for. Honestly if they just made everyone get cleaning and get that stuff nobody would have cavities. 

 

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