Brad Childress To Be Named Vikings' HC (1 Viewer)

[MrPack]

The whole thing about having to interview a minority is a fraud and is terribly condescending, IMO.

Once again for BigJim, even slower... I d...o...n...t h...a...v...e a p...r...o...b...l...e...m w...i...t...h i...t

Please work on your own reading comprehension before patronizing me. I never said you had a problem with the rule. I said it was ridiculous and full of bias to poke at the honesty of a Viking statement when any idiot knows honesty has nothing to do with complying with an absurd NFL rule. My god, are you really that bad at reading?R-I-F

Ok, this is the last thing I am going to say on this. I was forewarned that trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to have a conversation with Larryboy, so I'm getting out now.Oh and speaking of reading comprehension, the only reason I brought this up, which if you look at my first post on this matter, was because Wilf made the ridiculous statement that all 4 candidates were given equal consideration. That is the part that I called on.

I'm done with this pissing match.

 

[BigJim®]

The whole thing about having to interview a minority is a fraud and is terribly condescending, IMO.

Once again for BigJim, even slower... I d...o...n...t h...a...v...e a p...r...o...b...l...e...m w...i...t...h i...t

Please work on your own reading comprehension before patronizing me. I never said you had a problem with the rule. I said it was ridiculous and full of bias to poke at the honesty of a Viking statement when any idiot knows honesty has nothing to do with complying with an absurd NFL rule. My god, are you really that bad at reading?R-I-F

Ok, this is the last thing I am going to say on this. I was forewarned that trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to have a conversation with Larryboy, so I'm getting out now.Oh and speaking of reading comprehension, the only reason I brought this up, which if you look at my first post on this matter, was because Wilf made the ridiculous statement that all 4 candidates were given equal consideration. That is the part that I called on.

I'm done with this pissing match.

Seriously... whatever. Good to hear I come endorsed. I'm glad you are done with this exchange but you still don't get it if you think you're making a point above. When Ted Thompson holds his token interviews and says all of his minority candidates got a fair shake, I'm not going to jump onto FBG and post . Why? Because calling BS suggests he had a choice, and therefore, misses the point entirely. Your position is Wilf made "ridiculous statements." I don't believe Wilf, or any other NFL owner who hires a caucasion coach going forward, feels he has a choice but to make the "ridiculous statement" that all applicants had a fair shake.HTH

 

[reg]

The Vikings were bearing down Monday night on arguably the most important hire of new coach Brad Childress' staff. Barring an unexpected setback, Tampa Bay defensive backs coach Mike Tomlin will be hired today as the Vikings defensive coordinator.Tomlin was scheduled to fly Monday afternoon to the Twin Cities aboard owner Zygi Wilf's private plate, according to Tomlin's agent, Brian Levy. Wilf, Childress and vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski planned to speak with Tomlin on Monday night, at which point Levy expected the Vikings to offer Tomlin the job."We might reach a deal [late Monday]," Levy said. "Or at the latest, I think it would come [this] morning."Levy said the Vikings made clear Tomlin is their top choice."That's my understanding," Levy said. "I don't believe they have any other interviews scheduled."Tampa Bay coach Jon Gruden appeared resigned to losing Tomlin and perhaps defensive assistant Joe Woods, who could follow Timlin to Minnesota as the Vikings' defensive backs coach."We have a number of [coaches] who have earned the attention they're getting," Gruden said.Tomlin and Childress were not available for comment, and Brzezinski did not return phone calls.Tomlin, 33, would hold significant authority in his first job as a coordinator. Childress' expertise is on offense, and Tomlin would be in charge of implementing the so-called "Tampa-2" defense first introduced to the Buccaneers by coach Tony Dungy.Getting Tomlin signed appeared to be the Vikings' top order of business on the first working day since Childress was announced as head coach. Childress fired nine assistant coaches from former coach Mike Tice's staff over the weekend, and a handful of others -- including defensive backs coach Chuck Knox and strength coach Kurtis Shultz -- are scheduled for interviews later this week.Two of Tice's assistants, defensive line coach Brian Baker and linebackers coach Pete Bercich, said Monday they had not heard from the Vikings since Childress' initial introduction to the staff Friday.Childress also has expressed interest in Nebraska defensive coordinator Kevin Cosgrove, probably to be their linebackers coach, but he had made no decision as of Monday. Other possibilities for Childress' staff include Green Bay assistant Darrell Bevell as the offensive coordinator, Virginia Tech quarterbacks coach Kevin Rogers for a similar position, and a combination of Wisconsin assistant Jim Hueber and former Detroit Lions assistant Pat Morris to work with the offensive line.Wisconsin special teams coach Brian Murphy also has been discussed.Meanwhile, a UCLA spokesman said the Vikings have not contacted Bruins running backs coach Eric Bieniemy, another potential member of the staff.

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/173525.html

 

[MrPack]

The whole thing about having to interview a minority is a fraud and is terribly condescending, IMO.

Once again for BigJim, even slower... I d...o...n...t h...a...v...e a p...r...o...b...l...e...m w...i...t...h i...t

Please work on your own reading comprehension before patronizing me. I never said you had a problem with the rule. I said it was ridiculous and full of bias to poke at the honesty of a Viking statement when any idiot knows honesty has nothing to do with complying with an absurd NFL rule. My god, are you really that bad at reading?R-I-F

Ok, this is the last thing I am going to say on this. I was forewarned that trying to have a conversation with you is like trying to have a conversation with Larryboy, so I'm getting out now.Oh and speaking of reading comprehension, the only reason I brought this up, which if you look at my first post on this matter, was because Wilf made the ridiculous statement that all 4 candidates were given equal consideration. That is the part that I called on.

I'm done with this pissing match.

Seriously... whatever. Good to hear I come endorsed. I'm glad you are done with this exchange but you still don't get it if you think you're making a point above. When Ted Thompson holds his token interviews and says all of his minority candidates got a fair shake, I'm not going to jump onto FBG and post . Why? Because calling BS suggests he had a choice, and therefore, misses the point entirely. Your position is Wilf made "ridiculous statements." I don't believe Wilf, or any other NFL owner who hires a caucasion coach going forward, feels he has a choice but to make the "ridiculous statement" that all applicants had a fair shake.HTH

 

[pigskin pimp]

I'm done with this pissing match...I'm not talking to you...Starting now...Now...I mean it...No more...Right...About...Now......now......I really mean it...I won't talk to you...

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What the heck?Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants. A 33 year old defensive coordinator?A 35 year old offensive coordinator?Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old. Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

 

[Muahahaha]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants.

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old. Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, Bevell was a Wisconsin QB. My guess is that Childress will be VERY involved in the offense as he has already announced plans to be the play caller during games.

 

[BigJim®]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants.

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old. Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, I believe I read Bevell was the QB while Childress was the OC there. I'm thinking Barry Alvarez for GM, and we play games at Wisconsin stadium. Vike fans will be happy to learn they have better tailgating there than at the dome.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants. 

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old.  Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, Bevell was a Wisconsin QB. My guess is that Childress will be VERY involved in the offense as he has already announced plans to be the play caller during games.

Seems like it wasn't that long ago that Bevell was the QB. I must be getting older faster than I thought.Seems like Childress is going to run things like Reid did. He'll put the gameplan together with his OC, but he'll be the primary shot caller.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Yes, I believe I read Bevell was the QB while Childress was the OC there. I'm thinking Barry Alvarez for GM, and we play games at Wisconsin stadium. Vike fans will be happy to learn they have better tailgating there than at the dome.

I'm as "anti-public money for a stadium" guy as there is, but there's gotta be a facility built SOME time. It would be nice if it were on the north side, where it has been proposed. It's only like 15 minutes from my house.

How it came to this for Minneapolis, needing to build THREE stadiums, is beyond me.

 

[MrPack]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants. 

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old.  Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, Bevell was a Wisconsin QB. My guess is that Childress will be VERY involved in the offense as he has already announced plans to be the play caller during games.

Seems like it wasn't that long ago that Bevell was the QB. I must be getting older faster than I thought.Seems like Childress is going to run things like Reid did. He'll put the gameplan together with his OC, but he'll be the primary shot caller.

I believe Bevell was a mormon, and was away on mission right out of high school, thus making him an "older" student. I'm pretty sure it was something like this.

 

[Muahahaha]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants.

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old. Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, Bevell was a Wisconsin QB. My guess is that Childress will be VERY involved in the offense as he has already announced plans to be the play caller during games.

Seems like it wasn't that long ago that Bevell was the QB. I must be getting older faster than I thought.Seems like Childress is going to run things like Reid did. He'll put the gameplan together with his OC, but he'll be the primary shot caller.

I believe Bevell was a mormon, and was away on mission right out of high school, thus making him an "older" student. I'm pretty sure it was something like this.

You are correct.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I believe Bevell was a mormon, and was away on mission right out of high school, thus making him an "older" student. I'm pretty sure it was something like this.

You are correct.

Now I remember. They made a big deal out of it.I'm not sure how to feel about these hirings. I don't know much about the coaches the Vikings are hiring. Seems like a lot of young guys and people with limited to zero NFL experience.

Will they bring fresh ideas that result in winning? Or will they be overwhelmed?

Next year could be an exciting but transitional year for the Vikes. How many games can you win with a first time HC, DC, and OC?

 

[reg]

I believe Bevell was a mormon, and was away on mission right out of high school, thus making him an "older" student. I'm pretty sure it was something like this.

You are correct.

Now I remember. They made a big deal out of it.I'm not sure how to feel about these hirings. I don't know much about the coaches the Vikings are hiring. Seems like a lot of young guys and people with limited to zero NFL experience.

Will they bring fresh ideas that result in winning? Or will they be overwhelmed?

Next year could be an exciting but transitional year for the Vikes. How many games can you win with a first time HC, DC, and OC?

Pretty much my thoughts as well. Add in the slew of college assistants he is going to hire and this could be a sketchy year.

 

[BlueOnion]

I'm not sure how to feel about these hirings. I don't know much about the coaches the Vikings are hiring. Seems like a lot of young guys and people with limited to zero NFL experience.

I feel really good about them. Tomlin is young, but he was the defensive back coach for Kiffin when they won the Super Bowl, so the guy has exposure to teams that have won. However, Childress is an offensive minded coach, so the defense will rise or fall based on Tomlin's ability alone. But I recall reading he interviewed with Miami last year and almos got he defensive coordinator position there. Bevell as offensive coordinator I am not worried about because it will be Childress calling the plays and overseeing the offense. Bevell (apparently) will act as a consultant and perspective delegate for Childress, a role I feel he will more than fulfill.

I have grown comfortable with you coordinators who may lack experience, I thought Linehan did a great job with his limited experience.

 

[Muahahaha]

I believe Bevell was a mormon, and was away on mission right out of high school, thus making him an "older" student. I'm pretty sure it was something like this.

You are correct.

Now I remember. They made a big deal out of it.I'm not sure how to feel about these hirings. I don't know much about the coaches the Vikings are hiring. Seems like a lot of young guys and people with limited to zero NFL experience.

Will they bring fresh ideas that result in winning? Or will they be overwhelmed?

Next year could be an exciting but transitional year for the Vikes. How many games can you win with a first time HC, DC, and OC?

Good points. Gut feel, do you think we have so far upgraded or downgraded our coaching staff?

 

[BigJim®]

I'm not sure how to feel about these hirings.  I don't know much about the coaches the Vikings are hiring.  Seems like a lot of young guys and people with limited to zero NFL experience. 

Bevell as offensive coordinator I am not worried about because it will be Childress calling the plays and overseeing the offense. Bevell (apparently) will act as a consultant and perspective delegate for Childress, a role I feel he will more than fulfill.

I agree 100% on your Tomlin opinion, but this one leaves me scratching my head. Why would you be comforted that Childress is calling plays to take pressure off of Bevell when Childress never called plays in Philly? I'll get confident in his ability to call plays when he shows he does it well, and no sooner.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Good points. Gut feel, do you think we have so far upgraded or downgraded our coaching staff?

HC - UpgradeOC - ???

DC - Upgrade

I like the fact that we actually have a dedicated OC from the get go as opposed to making a guy do double duty as line coach and OC, that's for sure.

 

[Kleck.]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants. 

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old.  Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, Bevell was a Wisconsin QB. My guess is that Childress will be VERY involved in the offense as he has already announced plans to be the play caller during games.

Seems like it wasn't that long ago that Bevell was the QB. I must be getting older faster than I thought.Seems like Childress is going to run things like Reid did. He'll put the gameplan together with his OC, but he'll be the primary shot caller.

It's been 10 years since Bevell played for the Badgers. He was also a year or two older than most seniors.In the Mike Sherman fired thread I hade mentioned that I thought Bevell would be a future OC in the NFL. I didn't think it would happen this soon, but he does have some great ties with Childress, and Bevell is very offensive football intelligent. He played a major role in helping Tom Rossley with game plan strategy the past couple of years in Green Bay.

 

[Muahahaha]

What the heck?

Childress must not want to be questioned on anything by his assistants.

A 33 year old defensive coordinator?

A 35 year old offensive coordinator?

Although I must admit, I didn't think Bevell was that old. Wasn't he the QB for the U of Wisconsin Badgers?

Yes, Bevell was a Wisconsin QB. My guess is that Childress will be VERY involved in the offense as he has already announced plans to be the play caller during games.

Seems like it wasn't that long ago that Bevell was the QB. I must be getting older faster than I thought.Seems like Childress is going to run things like Reid did. He'll put the gameplan together with his OC, but he'll be the primary shot caller.

It's been 10 years since Bevell played for the Badgers. He was also a year or two older than most seniors.In the Mike Sherman fired thread I hade mentioned that I thought Bevell would be a future OC in the NFL. I didn't think it would happen this soon, but he does have some great ties with Childress, and Bevell is very offensive football intelligent. He played a major role in helping Tom Rossley with game plan strategy the past couple of years in Green Bay.

Great color, Kleck. Thank you.

 

[BlueOnion]

I'm not sure how to feel about these hirings.  I don't know much about the coaches the Vikings are hiring.  Seems like a lot of young guys and people with limited to zero NFL experience. 

Bevell as offensive coordinator I am not worried about because it will be Childress calling the plays and overseeing the offense. Bevell (apparently) will act as a consultant and perspective delegate for Childress, a role I feel he will more than fulfill.

I agree 100% on your Tomlin opinion, but this one leaves me scratching my head. Why would you be comforted that Childress is calling plays to take pressure off of Bevell when Childress never called plays in Philly? I'll get confident in his ability to call plays when he shows he does it well, and no sooner.

Childress and play-calling were not under my umbrella of comfort in regards to Bevell and his apparent job description (from what I have read). In regards to Bevell (more pointedly his age), I expect the role of Bevell to be small and I have a high level of comfort that Bevell will not screw anything up. Play-calling and Childress was exclusive to my comfort level in Bevell to do his job.

 

[BlueOnion]

I like the fact that we actually have a dedicated OC from the get go as opposed to making a guy do double duty as line coach and OC, that's for sure.

That was the worse idea ever. Still not sure who to pin it on. Was it McCombs passing down the ultimatum to Tice that he had to promote someone from inside and nobody else was going to be brought on? Or was it Tice telling McCombs, "Hey, I think Loney can do both jobs."

 

[BigJim®]

Or was it Tice telling McCombs, "Hey, I think [anything]."

IMHO it's easy to rule out that possibility.

 

[sho nuff]

He played a major role in helping Tom Rossley with game plan strategy the past couple of years in Green Bay.

Not sure if that is a strong compliment to Bevell.Rosseley and Sherman's playcalling the last two years was terrible.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Bevell will not be calling plays nor coach a position. Just a "teacher." Story

Vikings: Childress adds 6 more assistantsThe Vikings coach hired six more assistants, including former Badgers QB Darrell Bevell as offensive coordinator.Kevin Seifert, Star TribuneVikings: Childress adds 6 more assistantsNew Vikings coach Brad Childress continued his quick start Thursday, formally hiring six more assistant coaches at a time when seven NFL teams still are searching for a head coach. Childress has used the advantage to secure his first choice for a total of eight jobs, including both coordinator positions, and he could add a few more assistants before the week is out."I think it's a great start," Childress said Thursday as he introduced offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell. "You can kind of pick and choose [now]. You have your pick of the coaches that are out there. I've seen people that have been strapped because they have extended into the playoffs, and somebody has gotten a job and the guy isn't available. I think to be able to pick and choose is a huge thing."Childress moved quickly Tuesday to hire defensive coordinator Mike Tomlin, and Bevell formally joined the staff Thursday. The Vikings also announced the addition of Oklahoma assistant Darrell Wyatt as receivers coach, former Detroit Lions assistant Pat Morris as offensive line coach, Wisconsin assistant Jim Hueber as assistant line coach, former NFL tight end Jimmie Johnson as tight ends coach and Wisconsin assistant Brian Murphy as assistant special teams coach.UCLA assistant Eric Bieniemy interviewed Wednesday but had not yet been announced as running backs coach. Earlier this week, Nebraska defensive coordinator Kevin Cosgrove turned down the linebackers coach job. One prospective assistant Childress never doubted was Bevell, who played for him at Wisconsin from 1992-95 and is a longtime devotee of the West Coast offense. Bevell will neither call plays nor coach a position, meaning his primary role will be to install and teach the offense -- Childress' way. "He knows it forward and backward," Childress said. "He'll say it exactly the way I want it said. I think it's very important that you speak with one voice, that there is no margin for error. I think that is very important as you go forward that everybody knows ... and everybody is saying the exact same thing."The son of a high school coach, Bevell, 36, began his college career at Northern Arizona but left after his freshman year for a two-year church mission. He transferred to Wisconsin for the 1992 season, serving as the Badgers' quarterback when Childress was the offensive coordinator.After coaching stops at Westmar, Iowa State and Connecticut, Bevell spent the past six seasons on Green Bay's staff. He said he learned "a lot of things" from Packers quarterback Brett Favre but also recognized "things that he would say not to pass on -- like some of his footwork and some of his decision-making."The Packers' offense was similar to what the Vikings will run under Childress, and Bevell added: "I told [Childress] that I am excited about being able to mesh the system that he had in Philadelphia with the system we had in Green Bay. I am sure there will be a lot of similarities between them because they are both from the West Coast-style offense. Some of the terms are exactly the same as when I was a player at Wisconsin. So we should be able to get that moving along pretty quick." Notes• Childress was expected to speak in person this week with quarterback Daunte Culpepper, but as of Thursday afternoon the meeting had not occurred. "I understand he is in town, but I have not seen him yet," Childress said. Culpepper has been rehabilitating his injured right knee near his Orlando home but traveled this week to the Twin Cities.• Bevell will not call plays but Childress said he has not decided whether Bevell will spend games in the coaches booth or the sideline. "We haven't really talked through it yet," Childress said. "He's done both."• Childress has not ruled out hiring some of former coach Mike Tice's staff, a group that includes coverage coordinator Chuck Knox Jr. and strength coach Kurtis Shultz. Two other possible holdovers include offensive assistant Randy Hanson and coaches support administrator Sid Pillai.

 

[snellman]

Bevell will not be calling plays nor coach a position. Just a "teacher."

Story

After coaching stops at Westmar, Iowa State and Connecticut, Bevell spent the past six seasons on Green Bay's staff.

Wooohooo, the college in my hometown.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Seperated at birth?

Brad Childress

and

This guy?

 

[cstu]

Didn't see this posted yet but I was surprised when I read it:

http://nau.newtier.com/index.php?module=pn...&tid=18&sid=730

Bill Callahan (Raiders), Andy Reid (Eagles), Marty Mornhinweg (Lions) and Mike Shanahan (Broncos) all coached at NAU as assistant coaches. Callahan is now the head coach at Nebraska, while Mornhinweg was promoted to offensive coordinator with Childress’ departure.

Is Northern Arizona some kind of farm system for NFL coaches?