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[mad sweeney]

Lot of people looking way too much into the Grey Matter thingHe brought it up because it was relevant to the situation with Jessie bailing on the meth biz. He's not concerned with those people.

You're right, we probably won't see the biggest thing driving his ego into lunatic choices ever again. His discussion at the restaurant with Gretchen was the first time Walt came out as the angry hurt animal, that I recall, that he has become and seems to be the source feeding his gigantic need for ego. Plus Gilligan said we'd be hearing about it and learning about it more this season (covered in non-spoilertag posts in the thread earlier), so I don't think you're assessment is accurate. Possible, but not likely IMO.

 

[Tiger Fan]

Here are three things that I have been wondering about and it wouldn't surprise me if any or all of these things played a roll in the show. 1. Walt taped the ricin poison in the power outlet inside of his home. We don't know what that will be used for yet but it will have a significant role.2. The more this show goes on the smarter Jessie gets and it's only a matter of time before he turns on Walt because Walt did poison that kid with the Lily of the Valley plant.3. Walt holds a huge grudge against Grey Matter Technologies. We know that Walt really isn't in it for the money anymore as he has said as much. I'd be willing to bet that Walt is planning of destroying that company somehow. (Methylamine just may play a significant roll in how he can do this, which is why he didn't want to part with it)

I took the spoiler tags off, b/c they're not spoilers and these warrant discussion.1. I think this will definitely come into play.2. I'm starting to think that Jessie won't find this out.3. I really like this theory I'm still in the camp of that Skyler will link "robbing a train" with the reports of a missing boy in the desert near the train tracks.

As a no preview guy, totally agree these are not spoilers.I am a bit confused, I thought when Walt taped the ricin into the outlet that was the ricin used to poison the kid?Did I mess that up?There is another ricin packet that is currently hidden?

Wasn't the ricin that Walt hid the same one that he "found" while helping Jessie clean up the apt?

 

[Don Quixote]

Here are three things that I have been wondering about and it wouldn't surprise me if any or all of these things played a roll in the show. 1. Walt taped the ricin poison in the power outlet inside of his home. We don't know what that will be used for yet but it will have a significant role.2. The more this show goes on the smarter Jessie gets and it's only a matter of time before he turns on Walt because Walt did poison that kid with the Lily of the Valley plant.3. Walt holds a huge grudge against Grey Matter Technologies. We know that Walt really isn't in it for the money anymore as he has said as much. I'd be willing to bet that Walt is planning of destroying that company somehow. (Methylamine just may play a significant roll in how he can do this, which is why he didn't want to part with it)

I took the spoiler tags off, b/c they're not spoilers and these warrant discussion.1. I think this will definitely come into play.2. I'm starting to think that Jessie won't find this out.3. I really like this theory I'm still in the camp of that Skyler will link "robbing a train" with the reports of a missing boy in the desert near the train tracks.

As a no preview guy, totally agree these are not spoilers.I am a bit confused, I thought when Walt taped the ricin into the outlet that was the ricin used to poison the kid?Did I mess that up?There is another ricin packet that is currently hidden?

Wasn't the ricin that Walt hid the same one that he "found" while helping Jessie clean up the apt?

No, the one he "found" was filled with salt. He took the ricin out (hiding it in the electical socket) and replaced it with salt.

 

[JZilla]

Lot of people looking way too much into the Grey Matter thing

He brought it up because it was relevant to the situation with Jessie bailing on the meth biz. He's not concerned with those people.

You're right, we probably won't see the biggest thing driving his ego into lunatic choices ever again. His discussion at the restaurant with Gretchen was the first time Walt came out as the angry hurt animal, that I recall, that he has become and seems to be the source feeding his gigantic need for ego. Plus Gilligan said we'd be hearing about it and learning about it more this season (covered in non-spoilertag posts in the thread earlier), so I don't think you're assessment is accurate. Possible, but not likely IMO.

And that we didWell I'm not one to argue about the future of a fictitious storyline but I don't see it

 

[jamny]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

 

[mad sweeney]

Here are three things that I have been wondering about and it wouldn't surprise me if any or all of these things played a roll in the show. 1. Walt taped the ricin poison in the power outlet inside of his home. We don't know what that will be used for yet but it will have a significant role.2. The more this show goes on the smarter Jessie gets and it's only a matter of time before he turns on Walt because Walt did poison that kid with the Lily of the Valley plant.3. Walt holds a huge grudge against Grey Matter Technologies. We know that Walt really isn't in it for the money anymore as he has said as much. I'd be willing to bet that Walt is planning of destroying that company somehow. (Methylamine just may play a significant roll in how he can do this, which is why he didn't want to part with it)

I took the spoiler tags off, b/c they're not spoilers and these warrant discussion.1. I think this will definitely come into play.2. I'm starting to think that Jessie won't find this out.3. I really like this theory I'm still in the camp of that Skyler will link "robbing a train" with the reports of a missing boy in the desert near the train tracks.

As a no preview guy, totally agree these are not spoilers.I am a bit confused, I thought when Walt taped the ricin into the outlet that was the ricin used to poison the kid?Did I mess that up?There is another ricin packet that is currently hidden?

Wasn't the ricin that Walt hid the same one that he "found" while helping Jessie clean up the apt?

Yes. It was the same one he gave Jesse to kill Fring in the first place. The same one that Saul's bodyguard lifted from Jesse so that Walt could poison Brock with Lily of the Valley to make Jesse think that Fring poisoned Brock with the ricin (which was given back to Walt by Saul after having been lifted from Jesse). I think Jesse most definitely finds out that it was Walt that poisoned the boy. Jesse still trusts Mr. White but we the viewer know that almost every time Walt appeals to Jesse and uses that trust, that it is manipulation. This is the most primal example of that by both hurting Jesse the most with the near death of Brock, which Jesse was blaming on himself and of turning Jesse against Fring and onto the path that takes them to what appears to be the beginning of the end. If this show comes down to Walt vs Jesse, and it almost certainly has to with both of them essentially trading places from the beginning of the show, then that has to be the key discovery that Jesse makes that convinces him that he's been cruelly manipulated at almost every point by a man he clearly is still clinging to as a father figure.eta: Sorry, I confused the posts I was replying to. The one he taped to the outlet is the same original tubule of ricin they made. The one found in the Vroom was filled with salt that Walt planted there after his ruse to turn Jesse against Fring was complete, with the added wrinkle that Jesse became obsessed with finding the "lost" tubule that he thought originally that Brock had gotten into and caused the near death sickness.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked.

Mike had a gun and Walt didn't.

 

[mad sweeney]

Lot of people looking way too much into the Grey Matter thing

He brought it up because it was relevant to the situation with Jessie bailing on the meth biz. He's not concerned with those people.

You're right, we probably won't see the biggest thing driving his ego into lunatic choices ever again. His discussion at the restaurant with Gretchen was the first time Walt came out as the angry hurt animal, that I recall, that he has become and seems to be the source feeding his gigantic need for ego. Plus Gilligan said we'd be hearing about it and learning about it more this season (covered in non-spoilertag posts in the thread earlier), so I don't think you're assessment is accurate. Possible, but not likely IMO.

And that we didWell I'm not one to argue about the future of a fictitious storyline but I don't see it

We didn't really learn anything we didn't already know, other than the size of the buyout vs potential. From what I'd heard or read here, it seemed like it would be more than a casual recap. I don't think you bring in that type of motivation from a clearly emerging megalomaniac in regards to his prime motivation (having supplanted his family's welfare post-mortem as the reason for breaking bad) without expanding on it. I could just as easily be just as wrong, but I don't see that as being the only time GM comes up again.

 

[urbanhack]

I don't know what Walt's big "plan" is, but why couldn't Walt just buy the methylamine from Jesse and Mike on layaway? He seemed willing to try it, and based on his numbers from earlier in the episode, he would be able to generate $10 million in a couple of weeks. Is it that Mike and Jesse don't think he'd be able to do it? Or they don't trust him?

I don't think they trust him and they want out right now based on the killing of the kid and the DEA tracking Mike.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

 

[jamny]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked.

Mike had a gun and Walt didn't.

yes, I know.

 

[mad sweeney]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

 

[comfortably numb]

I am assuming we will have a huge cliffhanger at the end of these last 2 episodes?

Anyone wanna guess?

Mike/Jesse dies?

Hank revelation?

 

[urbanhack]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

A machine gun can destroy IP?

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I am assuming we will have a huge cliffhanger at the end of these last 2 episodes?Anyone wanna guess?Mike/Jesse dies?Hank revelation?

It's all heading towards a Hank/Walt showdown. Been building to it for all 5 seasons now.

 

[comfortably numb]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

Perhaps the arsenal of weapons could be to combat this new Phoenix connection that Mike brought in?Apparently those guys were coming to buy the 1000 gallons and I assume will be showing up and the 1000 gallons are not on site?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

Perhaps the arsenal of weapons could be to combat this new Phoenix connection that Mike brought in?Apparently those guys were coming to buy the 1000 gallons and I assume will be showing up and the 1000 gallons are not on site?

seemed pretty clear to me that Walt is going to cook the blue for the guys in Phoenix, but not sure how they'll keep Mike and Jesse involved.Heisenberg's product is going to start showing up all over the Southwest and that will probably get the DEA very interested.

 

[mad sweeney]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

I'm not ruling that out. By the time the opening teaser happened, Walt could've already won the battle, lost his family completely (including death and/or WP), could've killed Hank and Jesse etc and, with the cancer back, have no one else to blame but the white whale of Grey Matter left. Suicide by cop while coming full circle with the choice or moment (whatever happened with him and Gretchen) that he feels set his path. A variety of ways that scenario could be flushed out without straining their bounds. And it can all be told by hazy Nolan style flashback or other devices they are not afraid to use, without dedicating a ton of time to it.

 

[urbanhack]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

Perhaps the arsenal of weapons could be to combat this new Phoenix connection that Mike brought in?Apparently those guys were coming to buy the 1000 gallons and I assume will be showing up and the 1000 gallons are not on site?

seemed pretty clear to me that Walt is going to cook the blue for the guys in Phoenix, but not sure how they'll keep Mike and Jesse involved.Heisenberg's product is going to start showing up all over the Southwest and that will probably get the DEA very interested.

This is why he is going to need the machine gun.

 

[comfortably numb]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

They don't need to go into too much detail. There's necessarily a long period of time that's going to pass that will only be summed up or guessed at in the remaining time between now and his 52nd birthday. I also don't know that it's going to be a central focus of the show, just a part of the storyline that really adds a lot to the motivation of Walt going into supermaniac mode instead of bowing out in the times he's been given the opportunity.

I was addressing the people that think Walt's getting the machine gun to destroy Gray Matter or something like that.

Perhaps the arsenal of weapons could be to combat this new Phoenix connection that Mike brought in?Apparently those guys were coming to buy the 1000 gallons and I assume will be showing up and the 1000 gallons are not on site?

seemed pretty clear to me that Walt is going to cook the blue for the guys in Phoenix, but not sure how they'll keep Mike and Jesse involved.Heisenberg's product is going to start showing up all over the Southwest and that will probably get the DEA very interested.

Good point, had not picked up on that.I guess Mike showed up late for his meeting with the Phoenix crew, or they arrived early and struck a deal with Walt?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Good point, had not picked up on that.I guess Mike showed up late for his meeting with the Phoenix crew, or they arrived early and struck a deal with Walt?

that's Walt's plan where everybody wins.Mike and Jesse get bought out of their shares and Walt gets to keep cooking with a new distribution network. Declan wanted him off the market, but it would be even better if they could start selling his product.We may have a new Fring.

 

[comfortably numb]

What was the conversation Mike was hearing hank talk about on the computer while in his kitchen?

Was one of the conversations about evidence or am I making that up?

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

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[JZilla]

What was the conversation Mike was hearing hank talk about on the computer while in his kitchen?Was one of the conversations about evidence or am I making that up?

I can't remember much of what he was hearing but I thought it all tied into the context of him getting the DEA off his ### long enough to make the methylamine sale.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

What was the conversation Mike was hearing hank talk about on the computer while in his kitchen?Was one of the conversations about evidence or am I making that up?

I don't think it was anything of value but I could be wrong, it looked like he was just fast-forwarding to the point of making sure he would not be tailed after his TRO meeting.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Gray Matter should not have any significant impact on the remaining episodes, his ex-partner and wife have not had any air time recently so it would be a tangent if they started going in that direction.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Here are three things that I have been wondering about and it wouldn't surprise me if any or all of these things played a roll in the show. 1. Walt taped the ricin poison in the power outlet inside of his home. We don't know what that will be used for yet but it will have a significant role.2. The more this show goes on the smarter Jessie gets and it's only a matter of time before he turns on Walt because Walt did poison that kid with the Lily of the Valley plant.3. Walt holds a huge grudge against Grey Matter Technologies. We know that Walt really isn't in it for the money anymore as he has said as much. I'd be willing to bet that Walt is planning of destroying that company somehow. (Methylamine just may play a significant roll in how he can do this, which is why he didn't want to part with it)

I took the spoiler tags off, b/c they're not spoilers and these warrant discussion.1. I think this will definitely come into play.2. I'm starting to think that Jessie won't find this out.3. I really like this theory I'm still in the camp of that Skyler will link "robbing a train" with the reports of a missing boy in the desert near the train tracks.

As a no preview guy, totally agree these are not spoilers.I am a bit confused, I thought when Walt taped the ricin into the outlet that was the ricin used to poison the kid?Did I mess that up?There is another ricin packet that is currently hidden?

My thoughts:1) When he first taped it I thought it was a pride thing that might bite him in the ### later, but it could be used again. I don't see it as that big of a deal other than accessibility since couldn't he just make another one if needed (with enough lead time)? I see it more as a liability than anything (i.e. causing a fire).2) Not sure about this either, I'd expect to see more resentment towards Walt for siding with Landry if this was the case but he seemed to shrug that off. Maybe it resurfaces if he decides to continue working with him which I assume is going to happen, Jesse is not going to just leave the series.3) Like I said previously sounds like an unnecessary tangent but who knows, anything is possible on this show.

 

[Chaka]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

Mike would crush Walt in any head on violent confrontation and Walt knows it.

 

[Chaka]

Pure speculation but it is so spot on guaranteed to happen that it deserves spoiler tags.

Spoiler

Walt Jr finds the ricin, thinks it's meth and being an angst ridden teenager who hasn't had a waffle fix for a long time snorts it and dies. Walt melts down, zaniness ensues, he gets sloppy causing pretty much everybody to either want to kill him or send him to prison. Walt won't go to prison or go quietly into the night on any level so he gets the gun with the plan to go out Scarface style. IMO this explains the significance of Walt making the 52 out of bacon (and also because Walt Jr made a big deal out of it for the 51st BDay) and the foreshadowing of Walt and Walt Jr watching the end of Scarface.

 

[Epic Problem]

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Way to go, guy! YOU SHOWED THEM!!!

 

[Michael Brown]

Pure speculation but it is so spot on guaranteed to happen that it deserves spoiler tags.

Spoiler

Walt Jr finds the ricin, thinks it's meth and being an angst ridden teenager who hasn't had a waffle fix for a long time snorts it and dies. Walt melts down, zaniness ensues, he gets sloppy causing pretty much everybody to either want to kill him or send him to prison. Walt won't go to prison or go quietly into the night on any level so he gets the gun with the plan to go out Scarface style. IMO this explains the significance of Walt making the 52 out of bacon (and also because Walt Jr made a big deal out of it for the 51st BDay) and the foreshadowing of Walt and Walt Jr watching the end of Scarface.

I remember my teen years, crusing around in my new car looking for chicks, eating lots of breakfast, and opening up the electrical outlets in my parents' living room...Good times man, good times.

 

[identikit]

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Way to go, guy! YOU SHOWED THEM!!!

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

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Way to go, guy! YOU SHOWED THEM!!!

Indeed, now they can run their mouth off about non-existent previews all they want. I'd be happy to add you if you are one of their aliases which would be pretty sad.

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Maybe when Holly starts crawling somebody changes the outlets to the child safety kind and discovers the ricin? Seems like a stretch but that's the only way I can think of that a character other than Walt would be messing around with the outlets.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

Maybe when Holly starts crawling somebody changes the outlets to the child safety kind and discovers the ricin? Seems like a stretch but that's the only way I can think of that a character other than Walt would be messing around with the outlets.

Maybe after Skylar's dead, I don't see Walt convincing her to let the kids back.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Landry talk was way more interesting then outlet chat, FWIW

 

[Epic Problem]

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Way to go, guy! YOU SHOWED THEM!!!

Indeed, now they can run their mouth off about non-existent previews all they want. I'd be happy to add you if you are one of their aliases which would be pretty sad.

You mean you'd be willing to show me too? How cool is this?

 

[Wrighteous Ray]

Landry talk was way more interesting then outlet chat, FWIW

Outlet chat

 

[pecorino]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

implausible, maybe, but i wouldn't say 'overboard.' walt all but died in the episode "crawl space" when his transformation to Heisenberg became complete. like Anakin turning into Vader but even better because Walt/Heisenberg hasn't changed on the outside so he can waffle back and forth to suit his needs. he is now an impulsive, narcissistic megalomaniac.

 

[mad sweeney]

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Way to go, guy! YOU SHOWED THEM!!!

Oh noes!!!11!! The least liked person in the thread has me on ignore, TWICE!!!! Whatever shall I do? Who's going to whine and cry about spoilers that aren't actually spoilers? Who's going to ##### and moan when people talk about Skylar and the pills in one hand and bucket glass of wine in the other, or the bloodstained Jesse frantically shoving money into a duffel bag that they showed DURING THE SHOW!!!! Oh, sorry, spoiler. Maybe we just just not talk about the last 5 minutes of each show too, so that the cliffhanger, invented in the show 24, can have that much more suspense and impact when the spoiler crybabies watch the "previously on Breaking Bad" intro. Sorry Circus Clown, like I said, the only thing disappointing is that somewhere, somehow you took me off ignore in the first place. Hope you enjoyed this week's installation of Spoiler Alert, brought to you by the flaming wreckage of Walt Jr and his car (conspicuously missing from this episode, don't you think?).

 

[Abraham]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

I think that's the point. Walt sees himself as an "empire builder" and a big bad man when he is dealing with people that he can manipulate - Jesse and Skylar and even Marie. But when it comes to people like Mike and Hank and even as far back as the Grey Matter folks, he is still a timid chemistry teacher in over his head.Wasn't there another Jessie James reference last night? Or was that from the "last week on Breaking Bad" montage?

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Elliott comes over to visit Walt, and ends up finding the poison and eating it. BOOM.

 

[jamny]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

implausible, maybe, but i wouldn't say 'overboard.' walt all but died in the episode "crawl space" when his transformation to Heisenberg became complete. like Anakin turning into Vader but even better because Walt/Heisenberg hasn't changed on the outside so he can waffle back and forth to suit his needs. he is now an impulsive, narcissistic megalomaniac.

yeah, I get the whole chameleon aspect of his personality but I think the tough guy end of it is being overplayed. When he was talking about building an empire, Jesse should have been rolling his eyes. What empire? Sure they just acquired a lot of methlamine but it seems that even Walt/Heisenberg would realize they're a long way away from an empire. Who else does he have...his two partners want out. Just seems too over dramatic this season between the giant magnet, the train robbery to Walt "Scarface" White who doesn't even care that a kid was killed. Still love the show but have been somewhat disappointed this season so far.

 

[Marvin]

Elliott comes over to visit Walt, and ends up finding the poison and eating it. BOOM.

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[bagger]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

its about ego, knowing that he could be worth 600 million but gave that up for 5 grand. now he has an opportunity in his mind to make that money again and i think he would rather die trying rather than living his pedestrian life with a wife who cheated on him, a crippled son, and a daughter who was a mistake, all while maybe having a recurrence of cancer.the line to jesse regarding grey matter was a defining explanation to the viewers of why he isnt taking 5 million. that isnt a lot of money to someone who thinks they can be worth a billiion.

 

[Tiger Fan]

There's only ten episodes left in the series. If Gray Matter becomes a central focus of the show at this point, I think it would be very unsatisfying to the viewers, especially when there's still a lot of unresolved plots that we actually care about. I trust that the writers are better than that.

It doesn't need to be the focus. It just might be "the last thing to do" on Walt's checklist

 

[17seconds]

Lot of people looking way too much into the Grey Matter thingHe brought it up because it was relevant to the situation with Jessie bailing on the meth biz. He's not concerned with those people.

Disagree. Walt has shifted his reason for making money from doing it for his family to competing with Elliot.Last week I asked why Walt doesn't just live in an apartment. This week I wondered why Skyler doesn't just turn him in. She can either get immunity or somehow clear any evidence of her involvement before telling Hank. Why is she driving herself insane? Just turn him in already.BTW, last night was my favorite episode of the season. Back to the old BB with big tension between characters and their motives.

 

[Gator Shawn]

My enjoyment of the show has not wavered. However, I would have to say that I really strongly dislike Walt now. Fortunately, my man crush on Mike has grown to encompass the vacuum left by Walt turning into a d-bag.

That dinner scene was priceless. Personally, I love that the wine bottle was right next to her plate, but it should have been more empty. In fact, there wasn't enough missing in the bottle to account for her glass, but maybe I'm nit-picking.

 

[jamny]

I think they've gone a little too overboard with Walt's character. The whole "I'm creating an empire!" line was a bit cheesy. We're supposed to believe he's gotten this tough over the course of a year and then he timidly allows Mike to pull him around the office and restrain him to the radiator without a fight. Like he couldn't have tried to defend himself while he was being frisked. I'm having a tough time fully buying into this transition.

its about ego, knowing that he could be worth 600 million but gave that up for 5 grand. now he has an opportunity in his mind to make that money again and i think he would rather die trying rather than living his pedestrian life with a wife who cheated on him, a crippled son, and a daughter who was a mistake, all while maybe having a recurrence of cancer.the line to jesse regarding grey matter was a defining explanation to the viewers of why he isnt taking 5 million. that isnt a lot of money to someone who thinks they can be worth a billiion.

I get all that. I just think they're pushing the boundaries of credibility this season. At least for me.