Breaking Bad on AMC (5 Viewers)

[Walton Goggins]

If Gus was so paranoid about someone sabotaging his car, then why not leave this new henchman that we are seeing standing by it while Gus and Tyrus go inside to talk to Jessie?I say Gus was just thinking. What about? I'm not sure. Obviously he wants something else from Jessie.

Gus was thinking that Walt and Jessee were in cahoots thanks to Jessee mentioning that "he was poisoned". Here is a quick video from AMCTV that discusses the scene.http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times

 

[Major]

I disagree. Gus is a perfectionist and will not accept 96% purity.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

If Gus was so paranoid about someone sabotaging his car, then why not leave this new henchman that we are seeing standing by it while Gus and Tyrus go inside to talk to Jessie?I say Gus was just thinking. What about? I'm not sure. Obviously he wants something else from Jessie.

Gus was thinking that Walt and Jessee were in cahoots thanks to Jessee mentioning that "he was poisoned". Here is a quick video from AMCTV that discusses the scene.http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-episode-412-end-times

yep, that's a good recap

 

[Cunk]

As far as Gus poisoning the child. Remember, last year I think, when Walt mentioned to Gus that Jesse may have tried to kill a couple of Gus' low-level dealers because he (Jesse) may have thought that Gus ordered the killing of a child . Gus took offense to this and asked Walt if he was suggesting this.

So I don't think Gus would harm a child.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Ok, not an expert on hospitals and poison control here. But wouldn't a kid showing up with ricin poisoning raise ALL KINDS of red flags? Especially since the doctors didn't diagnose it, but a friend of the mother suggested it as a possible cause? I'm talking Homeland Security level response? Certainly, they'd want to talk to Jesse about it, right?

 

[McJose]

Ok, not an expert on hospitals and poison control here. But wouldn't a kid showing up with ricin poisoning raise ALL KINDS of red flags? Especially since the doctors didn't diagnose it, but a friend of the mother suggested it as a possible cause? I'm talking Homeland Security level response? Certainly, they'd want to talk to Jesse about it, right?

No kidding. As soon as I saw Jesse run back into the hospital after checking his cigarettes I thought this same thing. Even more so when he came back later on. Sloppy writing IMO.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Here's where the logic fails for me:

When mammacita mentioned the flu-like symptoms that didn't get better, I automatically thought of Jessie's ricin. Jessie made the connection after seeing his pack of smokes. I then thought that the kid was the dumbest thief in the world. If you are going to cage a cigarette, you don't take the one that stands out, the one the owner of the pack will know is missing. You sneak one of the unassuming, ordinary smokes.

Apparently Jessie never thought that the kid could have been wholly responsible for his predicament. Jessie lept to the conclusion that baby tio was poisoned, automatically blaming his erstwhile partner. As Walt correctly pointed out, the timeline to make Walt responsible for the poisoning makes zero sense. Walt didn't have access to Jessie's cigarettes (the fingle fingers of Saul not-withstanding), the kid and the kid's mother knew Walt's face and would have been wary of accepting anything from him and Walt has more time-sensitive issues than a spite poisoning.

So, the conclusion that Gus was behind the poisoning was quickly reached. Walt stated that Gus must have done it to drive Jessie to rage so hard he offed Walt. But, the mystery was unraveled so quickly, that it stretches my belief that a man as calculating as Gus could have relied on so flimsy a plan. Therefore, I conclude that Gus wants Jessie to know that he poisoned the kid and wants the poisoning to act as a warning of some sort to Jessie. However, we have seen Jessie's nihilistic streak and a dude as smart as Gus should know that killing this kid is the absolute worst way to coerce cooperation out of Jessie.

In the Gus-Jessie interaction, Gus made no sign of tipping Jessie off to the truth. If Gus is relying on this event to act as a way to force Jessie away from Walt, he did an awfully poor job of planning. If Gus did this as a subtle warning to Jessie, he completely misread Jessie's character. Both options are completely out of place from the calculating chickenman we have grown to know and love.

In my imagination, once the kid was in the hospital, I thought the story line would prove the kid caged a smoke and managed to unintentionally kill himself. This death would send Jessie into an even more nihilistic state than after the death of Jane. Walt and Gus would have to form an uneasy alliance for Gus would need a cook and Walt would need protection from a former protege now set on revenge against Walt, Gus and anyone else that Jessie associated with on his meth journey. The first victim of Jessie's vigilante revenge would have been poor Badger. Walt's "heinous" action would have been killing Jessie before Jessie managed to complete his revenge vision. Even better is if Jessie manages to take out Gus first, allowing the ascension of Heisenberg and setting the stage for a Season 5 Hank-Walt showdown.

Now, I just have to trust the writers to be better than my inane ideas, a feat that is not hard at all.

This is my thinking and still is - well maybe not kill but make himself very sick.

 

[McJose]

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I agree I was giving them the benefit of doubt and assuming he had something he forgot to tell Jesse.

that was probably the only moment of this entire series. I can live with that

Walt stopping into a bar and just happening to start talking to Jesse's GF's dad?Jesse happening to pick up on the sister of the kid that killed Combo?The cartel twin assassins putting a hit on a federal agent in the middle of a Home Depot parking lot in broad daylight? Not to mention the one dude goes back for the axe. This show isn't perfect. Sometimes it's a little frustrating how they can create some simply amazing moments of television and then screw the pooch on some others.

 

[McJose]

Speaking of Gus's spidy sense. I thought it was pretty dumb for him to stand there at the edge of the parking structure. Any idiot with a $300 deer rifle could have put a slug into him.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.

if I'm being naive, so be it.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.if I'm being naive, so be it.

I think at some point we find out that both Walt and Jesse's houses are bugged, and that's where the "spidey sense" comes from. It's how he's ALWAYS 10 steps ahead.

 

[Apple Juice]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.if I'm being naive, so be it.

Nah, I don't think Gus knew about it either. Walt decided his only hope of survival was to manipulate Jesse, and the audience along with him. When Walt was sitting outside with the gun spinning it, and it finally spun away from him, that signified that it was time to do something about his situation. So he covers all the windows and holes up in the house waiting to die? No, I think he got the kid sick and hoped and prayed it'd be enough to lure Jesse out to his house so he could get inside his head. Also, at the hospital, after Jesse tells his girl that it was Ricin, from that point on you never hear from the girl or the doctor again. Some have mentioned that the reaction to Ricin being in the kid's system would raise some red flags and it's lazy writing for how things played off. It wouldn't be if there isn't Ricin in the kid's system at all, and it's something else that isn't fatal. I'm not certain about what is wrong with the kid. It could be Ricin I suppose. But whatever it is, I almost positive Walt was the one responsible.

 

[pantherclub]

With regards to all these questions, who poisoned the kid etc... Is this something you guys think that we will find out definite or is this just a huge grey area?

Because if it was Gus then it goes into the point of how much has he bugged and how much does he know. If he knows Jesse was looking at killing him then whats the proper action.

Also what know one is talking about is Mike. He is still out there and I have to think he comes back into play. It seems that they wrapped up the Saul storyline neatly but I doubt Mike is out of the picture.

 

[tikitime]

For what its worth, (and I don't have a link), I recall an interview of Vince Gilligan (maybe Sepinwall?) where he mentioned that Walter would do something entirely irredeemable by the end of the season. Does anybody else recall seeing that? Killing Gus, or perhaps even Jessie, would probably not fall into that category. Poisoning an innocnet kid to dupe Jessie, however, would.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I don't know why people think everything should be explained all in one episode.

We have no idea if Ricin is even the cause of his illness. Walt could have done something else to make Jesse think it's Ricin. Or Gus could have be the person who got the kid sick. That could explain why Jesse hasn't been taken in by the police. The doctors seem fairly calm and just wanted him gone. I would think if it's Ricin he would have been arrested at that point.

That's what's great about the show, nobody knows why Gus suddenly got that spidey sense or who hurt the child or what was done to him. Let the show play out and explain it.

 

[Walton Goggins]

For what its worth, (and I don't have a link), I recall an interview of Vince Gilligan (maybe Sepinwall?) where he mentioned that Walter would do something entirely irredeemable by the end of the season. Does anybody else recall seeing that? Killing Gus, or perhaps even Jessie, would probably not fall into that category. Poisoning an innocnet kid to dupe Jessie, however, would.

Yes, I don't remember if he said by end of the season but he did say Walt would do something so awful nobody will like his character. I was thinking he killed someone in his family but could be the kid or something else.

 

[Walton Goggins]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.if I'm being naive, so be it.

I think at some point we find out that both Walt and Jesse's houses are bugged, and that's where the "spidey sense" comes from. It's how he's ALWAYS 10 steps ahead.

You know given that Gus killed off cartel with poison when Gus walked back to the parking lot he thought about what Jesse said regarding the child being poisoned. Could be that Gus was thinking did someone survive the poison cartel incident or someone found out about it and it was a message being sent to him?Just saying we don't know if Gus was even thinking that Walt is involved in this, could be but have no idea at this point what Gus was thinking (Walt or someone else). Gus could be the person responsible for the kid being sick or he may not be. Interested to see how all this stuff plays out.

 

[Abraham]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

I also find it curious that Jesse still had the ricin. Why? If he had turned towards Gus's side why would he keep it, transferring it from one pack of cigs to the next? Wouldn't he get rid of it? Unless he was holding on to it for a future use of some kind...

 

[McJose]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

They really made it look like he was looking for something in the distance.

 

[beer 30]

I disagree. Gus is a perfectionist and will not accept 96% purity.

Dear God no! NOOOOOOO!!!!!

 

[Abraham]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

They really made it look like he was looking for something in the distance.

But if he were fearful of his well-being he wouldn't walk out to where a sniper could shoot him, for example. I think he was thinking long and hard about something, not looking for a threat.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

They really made it look like he was looking for something in the distance.

You obviously mistook him walking to the edge and scanning the buildings as him looking for something and not composing himself. Understandable mistake.

 

[Don Quixote]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

They really made it look like he was looking for something in the distance.

You obviously mistook him walking to the edge and scanning the buildings as him looking for something and not composing himself. Understandable mistake.

Maybe he was just taking in the view of downtown Albuquerque.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

They really made it look like he was looking for something in the distance.

You obviously mistook him walking to the edge and scanning the buildings as him looking for something and not composing himself. Understandable mistake.

Maybe he was just taking in the view of downtown Albuquerque.

California. Gorgeous!!!

 

[corpcow]

that was probably the only moment of this entire series. I can live with that

Walt stopping into a bar and just happening to start talking to Jesse's GF's dad?

I still don't understand why people get all worked up about this. It was not something at all crucial to the plot, nor did they just do something as a convenient way to tie up a loose end. I mean, they live in the same area and they went to a bar. One of the guys just crashed a plane because he lost a daughter... I think it's easy to imagine him at a bar. And Walt, well, similar. The fact that there was some connection to them gave us an interesting scene for character development, but I don't think it was anything ridiculous .... But what do I know

 

[corpcow]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

They really made it look like he was looking for something in the distance.

But if he were fearful of his well-being he wouldn't walk out to where a sniper could shoot him, for example. I think he was thinking long and hard about something, not looking for a threat.

Agree, that was my takeaway.

 

[Major]

I disagree. Gus is a perfectionist and will not accept 96% purity.

Dear God no! NOOOOOOO!!!!!

sorry, I couldn't resist with the Walt or Gus debate becoming the next thing the FBG contingent out to. For the record, I know this is going against history and science but I'm going to disagree with Sepinwall and say Walt did it.

 

[Apple Juice]

that was probably the only moment of this entire series. I can live with that

Walt stopping into a bar and just happening to start talking to Jesse's GF's dad?

I still don't understand why people get all worked up about this. It was not something at all crucial to the plot, nor did they just do something as a convenient way to tie up a loose end. I mean, they live in the same area and they went to a bar. One of the guys just crashed a plane because he lost a daughter... I think it's easy to imagine him at a bar. And Walt, well, similar. The fact that there was some connection to them gave us an interesting scene for character development, but I don't think it was anything ridiculous .... But what do I know

I agree. Bad writing is a scene where something implausible happens to resolve a knot in the plot or further things along. The scene with Jane's father did neither. It was a coincidence, the kind that happens every day, and it just gave the audience a window into both men's minds. The writers used it for nothing more. I don't think BB is perfect either. I rolled my eyes a little when Ted (allegedly) killed himself. But that's a similar situation. The writers didn't need Ted to die to get out of a hole. It was just something they decided to have happen.

 

[McJose]

that was probably the only moment of this entire series. I can live with that

Walt stopping into a bar and just happening to start talking to Jesse's GF's dad?

I still don't understand why people get all worked up about this. It was not something at all crucial to the plot, nor did they just do something as a convenient way to tie up a loose end. I mean, they live in the same area and they went to a bar. One of the guys just crashed a plane because he lost a daughter... I think it's easy to imagine him at a bar. And Walt, well, similar. The fact that there was some connection to them gave us an interesting scene for character development, but I don't think it was anything ridiculous ....

But what do I know

It was silly. And one of the reasons why I never liked it was that it WASN'T crucial to the plot. I didn't have to be there.BTW: The meeting at the bar was waaaay before the plane crash. It was even before the girl died.

 

[Don Quixote]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.

if I'm being naive, so be it.

Nah, I don't think Gus knew about it either. Walt decided his only hope of survival was to manipulate Jesse, and the audience along with him. When Walt was sitting outside with the gun spinning it, and it finally spun away from him, that signified that it was time to do something about his situation. So he covers all the windows and holes up in the house waiting to die? No, I think he got the kid sick and hoped and prayed it'd be enough to lure Jesse out to his house so he could get inside his head.

Also, at the hospital, after Jesse tells his girl that it was Ricin, from that point on you never hear from the girl or the doctor again. Some have mentioned that the reaction to Ricin being in the kid's system would raise some red flags and it's lazy writing for how things played off. It wouldn't be if there isn't Ricin in the kid's system at all, and it's something else that isn't fatal.

I'm not certain about what is wrong with the kid. It could be Ricin I suppose. But whatever it is, I almost positive Walt was the one responsible.

I mentioned this earlier, but I think the significance of the gun spinning was that the gun pointed at a plant. Ricin comes from castor oil plants. Is there an horticulturalist in the house?

 

[corpcow]

that was probably the only moment of this entire series. I can live with that

Walt stopping into a bar and just happening to start talking to Jesse's GF's dad?

I still don't understand why people get all worked up about this. It was not something at all crucial to the plot, nor did they just do something as a convenient way to tie up a loose end. I mean, they live in the same area and they went to a bar. One of the guys just crashed a plane because he lost a daughter... I think it's easy to imagine him at a bar. And Walt, well, similar. The fact that there was some connection to them gave us an interesting scene for character development, but I don't think it was anything ridiculous ....

But what do I know

It was silly. And one of the reasons why I never liked it was that it WASN'T crucial to the plot. I didn't have to be there.BTW: The meeting at the bar was waaaay before the plane crash. It was even before the girl died.

Sorry, you're right on the timing. I forgot. Still, don't understand why it bothers you so much. It didn't have to be there, but so what? It's about character development. Is it really that much of a reach to think they'd go to a bar? Have you never gone to a bar? Have you never struck up a conversation with someone at a bar?

Donald Margolis (played by John de Lancie) is Jane's father. He owns the building his daughter managed for him. He sent Jane to rehab once before and goes with her to recovery meetings. Donald becomes furious when he discovers that his daughter is back on heroin, suspecting Jesse is at fault. He nearly calls the police but relents when Jane promises to go back into rehab. Depressed, he goes to a bar and strikes up a conversation with a stranger (Walter) about the heartache of raising children. His words inspire Walter to help Jesse get clean from heroin. After Jane's death, he unwittingly causes a mid-air collision of two planes at his job as an Air Traffic Controller. After the accident, it is revealed that Margolis was rushed to the hospital to treat a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.

if I'm being naive, so be it.

Nah, I don't think Gus knew about it either. Walt decided his only hope of survival was to manipulate Jesse, and the audience along with him. When Walt was sitting outside with the gun spinning it, and it finally spun away from him, that signified that it was time to do something about his situation. So he covers all the windows and holes up in the house waiting to die? No, I think he got the kid sick and hoped and prayed it'd be enough to lure Jesse out to his house so he could get inside his head.

Also, at the hospital, after Jesse tells his girl that it was Ricin, from that point on you never hear from the girl or the doctor again. Some have mentioned that the reaction to Ricin being in the kid's system would raise some red flags and it's lazy writing for how things played off. It wouldn't be if there isn't Ricin in the kid's system at all, and it's something else that isn't fatal.

I'm not certain about what is wrong with the kid. It could be Ricin I suppose. But whatever it is, I almost positive Walt was the one responsible.

I mentioned this earlier, but I think the significance of the gun spinning was that the gun pointed at a plant. Ricin comes from castor oil plants. Is there an horticulturalist in the house?

What I took out of that scene is that Walt seemed resigned to his death, as the gun kept pointing at him the first few times he spun it around. Then on the last spin, it was pointing away from him. That's when he realized he needed to take action and did what he had to do to manipulate Jessie into coming over to his house and going back on his side.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I don't think Gus suspected something in the car. I think he was taking a moment to gather himself before going back to the hospital to talk to Jesse.

Agreed.

I also find it curious that Jesse still had the ricin. Why? If he had turned towards Gus's side why would he keep it, transferring it from one pack of cigs to the next? Wouldn't he get rid of it? Unless he was holding on to it for a future use of some kind...

Yea, I was curious about this too. This means he took that cig to Mexico too, right?

 

[Don Quixote]

I still don't buy that Gus knew about the ricin. I think either Walt poisoned the kid, or it was an accident from the kid stealing the smoke.

if I'm being naive, so be it.

Nah, I don't think Gus knew about it either. Walt decided his only hope of survival was to manipulate Jesse, and the audience along with him. When Walt was sitting outside with the gun spinning it, and it finally spun away from him, that signified that it was time to do something about his situation. So he covers all the windows and holes up in the house waiting to die? No, I think he got the kid sick and hoped and prayed it'd be enough to lure Jesse out to his house so he could get inside his head.

Also, at the hospital, after Jesse tells his girl that it was Ricin, from that point on you never hear from the girl or the doctor again. Some have mentioned that the reaction to Ricin being in the kid's system would raise some red flags and it's lazy writing for how things played off. It wouldn't be if there isn't Ricin in the kid's system at all, and it's something else that isn't fatal.

I'm not certain about what is wrong with the kid. It could be Ricin I suppose. But whatever it is, I almost positive Walt was the one responsible.

I mentioned this earlier, but I think the significance of the gun spinning was that the gun pointed at a plant. Ricin comes from castor oil plants. Is there an horticulturalist in the house?

What I took out of that scene is that Walt seemed resigned to his death, as the gun kept pointing at him the first few times he spun it around. Then on the last spin, it was pointing away from him. That's when he realized he needed to take action and did what he had to do to manipulate Jessie into coming over to his house and going back on his side.

I think that was the original intent of spinning the gun, a parralel to Skyler flipping the coin at the Four Corners until it gave her the answer she wanted. I think when it landed on the plant though, it gave him the idea about poisoning the kid.

 

[Major]

Yeah, I'm not buying Gus's superhuman abilities although it would be cool if he put on a cape and flew away to end the season.

 

[Sebowski]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

 

[McJose]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

This is what I thought while watching the show. That Jesse was in complete denial and so he blamed WW. Once it became clear that WW had a near foolproof alibi that was too strong for Jesse's denial, he had to blame someone else -- the chicken man. While I was watching the show, I was certain that the kid just grabbed his lucky cigarette and neither Gus nor WW were responsible. After reading this thread I think that WW poisoned the kid to bait Jesse to come to his house. Now I'm expecting the first scene of the season finale to be a flashback to WW doing his insidious deed.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yep. This incident had a strong parallel to the last episode of season 1, where Jesse inadvertently bothced the attempt to poison Tuco when he mentioned that chilli powder was in the product. It was Jesse mentioning the kid being poisoned that caused Gus to have his spidey sense up in the parking garage.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

He blew up Tuco. A bomb is a reasonable assumption. Uzi, not so much.

 

[pantherclub]

hank killed tuco

 

[Dexter Manley]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

They were in a parking garage. That's not a very good location for most people to try and snipe Gus, let alone WW. If that's your plan, you do it where he's out in the open. If WW wanted to kill Gus in that spot car bomb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniper.And I highly doubt that Gus would be worried about WW ambushing him with an uzi while he has 2 guys with him. Remember the episode .38 snub? Also, Gus's car was completely isolated. There wasn't a good spot for anyone to ambush him there. Again, car bomb>>>>>>>>>uzi ambush.

The bottom line is Gus knows WW is completely inept with a gun. He knows his strength is chemistry. That's his "weapon." Which is why Jesse mentioning the kid being poisoned set off his spidey sense. When Gus was in the parking garage, him being poisoned wasn't an option. He knows that WW already got to his car once with the GPS device. He connected the dots which led him to the conclusion that the only realistic way that WW could kill him in that spot is with a car bomb.

 

[Dexter Manley]

hank killed tuco

Yes, after WW/Jesse's poisoning attempt failed.

 

[McJose]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

He blew up Tuco. A bomb is a reasonable assumption. Uzi, not so much.

He did?

 

[McJose]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

They were in a parking garage. That's not a very good location for most people to try and snipe Gus, let alone WW. If that's your plan, you do it where he's out in the open. If WW wanted to kill Gus in that spot car bomb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniper.And I highly doubt that Gus would be worried about WW ambushing him with an uzi while he has 2 guys with him. Remember the episode .38 snub? Also, Gus's car was completely isolated. There wasn't a good spot for anyone to ambush him there. Again, car bomb>>>>>>>>>uzi ambush.

The bottom line is Gus knows WW is completely inept with a gun. He knows his strength is chemistry. That's his "weapon." Which is why Jesse mentioning the kid being poisoned set off his spidey sense. When Gus was in the parking garage, him being poisoned wasn't an option. He knows that WW already got to his car once with the GPS device. He connected the dots which led him to the conclusion that the only realistic way that WW could kill him in that spot is with a car bomb.

This makes sense but it is one hell of a stretch. I would also think that thanks to whatever happened in .38 Snub that Gus knows that Walt does own a gun AND has considered shooting him.

 

[mr. furley]

Not a very good episode. Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Not sure how it was a leap of faith? When Jessie nixed killing Walt (again), Gus said "appropirate message will be sent" (or something to that effect). Of course, the viewers (and Jessie) thought this would mean an attack on one of Walt's family. But it was something to "motivate" Jessie instead. If Gus wanted to kill the kid, he could have...but he was sending Jessie a message: "Ok the hit on Walt, but bad things will happen to people you care about"right

that's kinda what i was thinking

 

[SacramentoBob]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

He blew up Tuco. A bomb is a reasonable assumption. Uzi, not so much.

He did?

He set off a bomb at his HQ.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

They were in a parking garage. That's not a very good location for most people to try and snipe Gus, let alone WW. If that's your plan, you do it where he's out in the open. If WW wanted to kill Gus in that spot car bomb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniper.And I highly doubt that Gus would be worried about WW ambushing him with an uzi while he has 2 guys with him. Remember the episode .38 snub? Also, Gus's car was completely isolated. There wasn't a good spot for anyone to ambush him there. Again, car bomb>>>>>>>>>uzi ambush.

The bottom line is Gus knows WW is completely inept with a gun. He knows his strength is chemistry. That's his "weapon." Which is why Jesse mentioning the kid being poisoned set off his spidey sense. When Gus was in the parking garage, him being poisoned wasn't an option. He knows that WW already got to his car once with the GPS device. He connected the dots which led him to the conclusion that the only realistic way that WW could kill him in that spot is with a car bomb.

This makes sense but it is one hell of a stretch. I would also think that thanks to whatever happened in .38 Snub that Gus knows that Walt does own a gun AND has considered shooting him.

I don't think it's a stretch at all. The only reason Gus was forced to go to the hospital is because Jesse's gf's kid was gravely ill. Once Jesse tells Gus that he was poisoned, I'm sure there were instantly visions of Admiral Ackbar dancing in the chicken man's head.And Walt wouldn't stand a chance at getting Gus as long as Tyrus or Mike is with him, let alone 2 guys.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

He blew up Tuco. A bomb is a reasonable assumption. Uzi, not so much.

He did?

He set off a bomb at his HQ.

Yep, and it's entirely possible that Gus knew about that incident. In fact, I would be really surprised if he didn't.

 

[corpcow]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

I think it's less about thinking his car is vulnerable and more about thinking about what Jesse said about him being poisoned, etc. I'm guessing he's going in to talk to Jesse, not going to take a different car. Just I don't think he was ever really looking or expecting to see something on the buildings.

 

[Sebowski]

Sorry if this has been covered. Don;t have time to comb through the next two pages right now.

Not a very good episode.

Didn't like the leap of faith that Jesse is taking that Gus somehow gave the kid ricin. It seems like the writers needed somehow to get Jesse and Walt back together again.

Jesse needs to think it wasn't his fault. He has to put the blame somewhere else. Walt's story made more sense than the one Jesse came up with.

Gus's spider sense at the end was lame too.

I liked that scene. On the close up of Gus you can see him thinking. Walt has said Gus is constantly 10 steps ahead. On that close up you can see Gus going through those steps. He probably took at a look at the car all by itself and thought "this car has been vulnerable. I din't account for that. What are the risks of that vulnerability... Not worth it. Let's take Tyrus' car"

Yeah but why would Gus assume that the only attempt on his life would come from a car-bomb? How did he know that Walt wasn't on a roof somewhere with a rifle? Or hiding behind another car with an Uzi? It was all pretty strange.

They were in a parking garage. That's not a very good location for most people to try and snipe Gus, let alone WW. If that's your plan, you do it where he's out in the open. If WW wanted to kill Gus in that spot car bomb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sniper.And I highly doubt that Gus would be worried about WW ambushing him with an uzi while he has 2 guys with him. Remember the episode .38 snub? Also, Gus's car was completely isolated. There wasn't a good spot for anyone to ambush him there. Again, car bomb>>>>>>>>>uzi ambush.

The bottom line is Gus knows WW is completely inept with a gun. He knows his strength is chemistry. That's his "weapon." Which is why Jesse mentioning the kid being poisoned set off his spidey sense. When Gus was in the parking garage, him being poisoned wasn't an option. He knows that WW already got to his car once with the GPS device. He connected the dots which led him to the conclusion that the only realistic way that WW could kill him in that spot is with a car bomb.

You guys are getting too wrapped up in specifics. Gus saw a vulnerability and decided it was safer to to leave the car in the lot. Whether it was a calculated masterpiece of discerning his rival's cunning, or just a hunch. It was much safer to leave the car where it was. No loss there. He is probably more upset about why he didn;t leave a guard at the car then whether something happened to it.