Breaking Bad on AMC (4 Viewers)

[SacramentoBob]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

How exactly are they going to link it to Walt? Why would there minds go there when they could go to a more likely target like the cartel?

They certainly could think it's cartel related although they could also realize or find out pretty much everyone in cartel was killed. It's not as if nobody who the players were involved in cartel. Plus when they find out the bomb was made out of a kitchen they'll know this isn't a cartel type killing.Ways to potentially link Walt..

Someone in retirement center who saw Walt

Someone (or recorded) in parking lot Walt's car in retirement center

Anything recorded showing Walt/Jesse in meth lab or around plant? < Would think Gus wouldn't tape anything but what if they find someone in his office of chicken restaurant that mentions Walt or Jesse?

Anyone working at plant who police bring in and they point out Jesse/Walt?

It's not as if Walt and Jesse has been hidden from everyone. Plus, they have 16 more episodes left so I assume there's going to be drama from the following:

1. Walt setting up shop / cook meth

2. Hank investigating and convinced that someone else is out there still alive and in ABQ. No way will Hank and police will just say "Great, Gus is dead, we all knew he was the head of meth lab, our work is done!" To me Hank now is going to believe that Gus was the leader but there's someone who is just as dangerous/powerful and behind the killing. Can't be Scarface without killing the boss.

That said, not even Gilligan knows, he said last episode was made with the possibility that was the final episode and they haven't written any new shows yet.

I'm not buying any of this. Only if Jessie and Walt were already suspects. Which they are not. A person at the retirement home? Who, the old lady who is dressed like she never left the 50s? An employee who sees many people come in and out of that building every day? Nope. An employee at the chicken restaurant? The minimum wager there knows Walt and Jessie's names? Nope.

The way Hank starts to suspect Walt and Jessie is yet to come.

Don't you have to check into a retirement home? Or can anyone just stroll on in?

Looks like they just strolled in.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

funny screen cap of Huellhttp://www.rgbfilter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Huell.jpg

Watched it a couple times but can't be bothered to figure out what's so interesting.

He's looking through the OO's in Goodman like glasses

 

[Dexter Manley]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

How exactly are they going to link it to Walt? Why would there minds go there when they could go to a more likely target like the cartel?

They certainly could think it's cartel related although they could also realize or find out pretty much everyone in cartel was killed. It's not as if nobody who the players were involved in cartel. Plus when they find out the bomb was made out of a kitchen they'll know this isn't a cartel type killing.Ways to potentially link Walt..

Someone in retirement center who saw Walt

Someone (or recorded) in parking lot Walt's car in retirement center

Anything recorded showing Walt/Jesse in meth lab or around plant? < Would think Gus wouldn't tape anything but what if they find someone in his office of chicken restaurant that mentions Walt or Jesse?

Anyone working at plant who police bring in and they point out Jesse/Walt?

It's not as if Walt and Jesse has been hidden from everyone. Plus, they have 16 more episodes left so I assume there's going to be drama from the following:

1. Walt setting up shop / cook meth

2. Hank investigating and convinced that someone else is out there still alive and in ABQ. No way will Hank and police will just say "Great, Gus is dead, we all knew he was the head of meth lab, our work is done!" To me Hank now is going to believe that Gus was the leader but there's someone who is just as dangerous/powerful and behind the killing. Can't be Scarface without killing the boss.

That said, not even Gilligan knows, he said last episode was made with the possibility that was the final episode and they haven't written any new shows yet.

I'm not buying any of this. Only if Jessie and Walt were already suspects. Which they are not. A person at the retirement home? Who, the old lady who is dressed like she never left the 50s? An employee who sees many people come in and out of that building every day? Nope. An employee at the chicken restaurant? The minimum wager there knows Walt and Jessie's names? Nope.

The way Hank starts to suspect Walt and Jessie is yet to come.

Don't you have to check into a retirement home? Or can anyone just stroll on in?

Every retirement home I've ever been too, you just walk in. There's no sign in or gatekeeper.

 

[Major]

One thing still unanswered is Madrigal Electrical. I thought it was probably a shell company of sorts but it could be more than that. Some German Company decides to:

1. invest in a fast food chicken company.

2. let Gus' people run their laundry, thereby allowing a meth lab to be built.

3. sells an air system and doesn't keep good records of the purchase.

Any thoughts? Hopefully, Hank will give us the 411 next season. You know he's going to be all over this.

 

[Thunderlips]

Walt is free and clear. Everything has been wrapped up for the DEA, the few loose ends (Mike/Saul) won't come clean. He's beaten cancer, he has a legit business to provide for his family and some "walk around" money from his cooking days. He can go back to being Walter White. This last season is all about him not want to though.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Walt is free and clear. Everything has been wrapped up for the DEA, the few loose ends (Mike/Saul) won't come clean. He's beaten cancer, he has a legit business to provide for his family and some "walk around" money from his cooking days. He can go back to being Walter White. This last season is all about him not want to though.

No.When a former cartel hitman blows himself up and takes a guy that is subsequently revealed to be a meth kingpin with him, ta few people probably want to ask check on the incident just a little bit. If nothing else, the cops need to figure out if it was a murder/suicide or simply a murder. That means an investigation, starting with checking out the comings and goings at the retirement home. In case you missed it, Walt not only came and went multiple times, but was observed by Tio's next door neighbor.Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed about who and what they may have seen. No guarantee that leads to Walt but I certainly wouldn't say he's out of the woods there either.I think it's pretty clear that the last season or two seasons (however they divide the final 16 episodes) will involve a law enforcement pursuit of Walt, likely with Hank prominently involved.

 

[Thunderlips]

Walt is free and clear. Everything has been wrapped up for the DEA, the few loose ends (Mike/Saul) won't come clean. He's beaten cancer, he has a legit business to provide for his family and some "walk around" money from his cooking days. He can go back to being Walter White. This last season is all about him not want to though.

No.When a former cartel hitman blows himself up and takes a guy that is subsequently revealed to be a meth kingpin with him, ta few people probably want to ask check on the incident just a little bit. If nothing else, the cops need to figure out if it was a murder/suicide or simply a murder. That means an investigation, starting with checking out the comings and goings at the retirement home. In case you missed it, Walt not only came and went multiple times, but was observed by Tio's next door neighbor.Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed about who and what they may have seen. No guarantee that leads to Walt but I certainly wouldn't say he's out of the woods there either.I think it's pretty clear that the last season or two seasons (however they divide the final 16 episodes) will involve a law enforcement pursuit of Walt, likely with Hank prominently involved.

While I agree that Hanke will be involved in a pursuit....I don't think it will be over what he did....but what he's going to do.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Walt is free and clear. Everything has been wrapped up for the DEA, the few loose ends (Mike/Saul) won't come clean. He's beaten cancer, he has a legit business to provide for his family and some "walk around" money from his cooking days. He can go back to being Walter White. This last season is all about him not want to though.

No.When a former cartel hitman blows himself up and takes a guy that is subsequently revealed to be a meth kingpin with him, ta few people probably want to ask check on the incident just a little bit. If nothing else, the cops need to figure out if it was a murder/suicide or simply a murder. That means an investigation, starting with checking out the comings and goings at the retirement home. In case you missed it, Walt not only came and went multiple times, but was observed by Tio's next door neighbor.Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed about who and what they may have seen. No guarantee that leads to Walt but I certainly wouldn't say he's out of the woods there either.I think it's pretty clear that the last season or two seasons (however they divide the final 16 episodes) will involve a law enforcement pursuit of Walt, likely with Hank prominently involved.

While I agree that Hanke will be involved in a pursuit....I don't think it will be over what he did....but what he's going to do.

Perhaps, but to my recollection they never really start over from scratch when the write the show. Everything that happens flows directly from something that happened before that has some unforeseen or unintended consequence. That's part of the genius of the show IMO.

 

[Walton Goggins]

Walt is free and clear. Everything has been wrapped up for the DEA, the few loose ends (Mike/Saul) won't come clean. He's beaten cancer, he has a legit business to provide for his family and some "walk around" money from his cooking days. He can go back to being Walter White. This last season is all about him not want to though.

He hated his prior life, that won't happen.

 

[Thunderlips]

Walt is free and clear. Everything has been wrapped up for the DEA, the few loose ends (Mike/Saul) won't come clean. He's beaten cancer, he has a legit business to provide for his family and some "walk around" money from his cooking days. He can go back to being Walter White. This last season is all about him not want to though.

No.When a former cartel hitman blows himself up and takes a guy that is subsequently revealed to be a meth kingpin with him, ta few people probably want to ask check on the incident just a little bit. If nothing else, the cops need to figure out if it was a murder/suicide or simply a murder. That means an investigation, starting with checking out the comings and goings at the retirement home. In case you missed it, Walt not only came and went multiple times, but was observed by Tio's next door neighbor.Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed about who and what they may have seen. No guarantee that leads to Walt but I certainly wouldn't say he's out of the woods there either.I think it's pretty clear that the last season or two seasons (however they divide the final 16 episodes) will involve a law enforcement pursuit of Walt, likely with Hank prominently involved.

While I agree that Hanke will be involved in a pursuit....I don't think it will be over what he did....but what he's going to do.

Perhaps, but to my recollection they never really start over from scratch when the write the show. Everything that happens flows directly from something that happened before that has some unforeseen or unintended consequence. That's part of the genius of the show IMO.

I don't know....I just can't see Heisenberg being taken down by the testimonials of some kid he fed berries to, an old lady at a nursing home or various video tapes. And while I don't think cartels in real life are as easily disposed of....I do think this television one is, so they shouldn't be a real problem for Walter. In the end, I think now that Walter "has won"....he feels entitiled to the spoils of war.....and that's how he'll trip up in the end.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Wow, as some suspected,

Spoiler

Walt was the mastermind of the poisoning.

Wow. Even after seeing the final shot. I didn't get that connection

 

[jdoggydogg]

That was a fantastic season.

But that really felt like a series finale, not a season finale. I don't know where they go from here. Clearly, this is a pivotal point in the series. If the writers come up with a fresh story arc next season that passes scrutiny, that's awesome. But I fear with this finale, this show could take a turn for the worse.

And where the hell is Mike? Major mistake to completely write him out of the last two episodes.

 

[Abraham]

But that really felt like a series finale, not a season finale. I don't know where they go from here. Clearly, this is a pivotal point in the series. If the writers come up with a fresh story arc next season that passes scrutiny, that's awesome. But I fear with this finale, this show could take a turn for the worse.

Agree completely, which is why it is so compelling. Walt and HAnk HAVE to have some resolution in the end. Its easy to forget that Hank had a very pivotal role in the first three seasons. Hank introduced Walt to the meth stuff, "introduced" him to Cap'n Cook, and their ongoing ego battle no doubt fueled Hank to get in to the business and to stay in. But it's hard to see how they can get on track for an ultimate showdown between the two of them from the point the show is at now to an endpoint 16 episiodes away. And that is the beauty of it. We know the end is coming. A proper ending that navigates from Walt on top of the world to Walt/Jesse/Hank/Skylar settling up all bets and debts will make this the best TV show ever. Period. No discussion. If they don't pull it off, it will be debated as a great show with some flaws like The Sopranos and Seinfeld. I hope Gilligan is up for the challenge.

 

[The Noid]

That was a fantastic season. But that really felt like a series finale, not a season finale. I don't know where they go from here. Clearly, this is a pivotal point in the series. If the writers come up with a fresh story arc next season that passes scrutiny, that's awesome. But I fear with this finale, this show could take a turn for the worse.And where the hell is Mike? Major mistake to completely write him out of the last two episodes.

When they wrote it, they still hadn't finalized a new season with AMC so it could very well have been a finale. I think it did a good job of serving as either a finale or a new arc for the next season. And Mike >>>> Tyrus. If Mike was back (and not still healing in Mexico) then Gus would still be alive. So they had to leave him there.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed

I'm betting those people are long gone and likely couldn't be identified.

 

[Raider Nation]

Wow, as some suspected,

Spoiler

Walt was the mastermind of the poisoning.

Wow. Even after seeing the final shot. I didn't get that connection

 

[Don Quixote]

One thing that bothered me slightly... Gus had told his driver to wait in the car while he went inside. I would think the driver heard the explosion (or at least saw people acting hysterically), in which case, I would think one of his first phone calls would be to the people at the laundry watching Jesse. But Walt had time to listen to the report on the radio and then drive over to the lab, without them knowing what happened to Gus.

Anyway, bothered me slightly as unclear what happened to the driver (unless I missed something, which is possible). Maybe he was blasting tunes on the radio like the limo driver in Diehard.

 

[Charlie Frown]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

How exactly are they going to link it to Walt? Why would there minds go there when they could go to a more likely target like the cartel?

They certainly could think it's cartel related although they could also realize or find out pretty much everyone in cartel was killed. It's not as if nobody who the players were involved in cartel. Plus when they find out the bomb was made out of a kitchen they'll know this isn't a cartel type killing.Ways to potentially link Walt..

Someone in retirement center who saw Walt

Someone (or recorded) in parking lot Walt's car in retirement center

Anything recorded showing Walt/Jesse in meth lab or around plant? < Would think Gus wouldn't tape anything but what if they find someone in his office of chicken restaurant that mentions Walt or Jesse?

Anyone working at plant who police bring in and they point out Jesse/Walt?

It's not as if Walt and Jesse has been hidden from everyone. Plus, they have 16 more episodes left so I assume there's going to be drama from the following:

1. Walt setting up shop / cook meth

2. Hank investigating and convinced that someone else is out there still alive and in ABQ. No way will Hank and police will just say "Great, Gus is dead, we all knew he was the head of meth lab, our work is done!" To me Hank now is going to believe that Gus was the leader but there's someone who is just as dangerous/powerful and behind the killing. Can't be Scarface without killing the boss.

That said, not even Gilligan knows, he said last episode was made with the possibility that was the final episode and they haven't written any new shows yet.

I'm not buying any of this. Only if Jessie and Walt were already suspects. Which they are not. A person at the retirement home? Who, the old lady who is dressed like she never left the 50s? An employee who sees many people come in and out of that building every day? Nope. An employee at the chicken restaurant? The minimum wager there knows Walt and Jessie's names? Nope.

The way Hank starts to suspect Walt and Jessie is yet to come.

Don't you have to check into a retirement home? Or can anyone just stroll on in?

The only things I can think of that might lead Hank to suspect Walt is from Season one:

The gas mask and gear were stolen from the chem lab at Walt's school (could be Jesse I suppose)

Jesse's association with Walt (school/buying dope (I think Skyler told Hank)

Hank was looking for Walt when he was following Jesse's car and found Tuco ( I believe)

Walter's "fugue state" disappearance during this time period

Walter's disappearance during the last 3 episode of this season

Hank is pretty sharp. I don't think it will take much for him to start to connect the dots. I just think he believes Walter to be an utter milquetoast and the possibility won't enter his mind at this point.

I am sure after the fact Hank will be like "It all makes sense now!" (if he survives next season).

I haven't even considered what will show up in all the surveillance video.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

One thing that bothered me slightly... Gus had told his driver to wait in the car while he went inside. I would think the driver heard the explosion (or at least saw people acting hysterically), in which case, I would think one of his first phone calls would be to the people at the laundry watching Jesse. But Walt had time to listen to the report on the radio and then drive over to the lab, without them knowing what happened to Gus.Anyway, bothered me slightly as unclear what happened to the driver (unless I missed something, which is possible). Maybe he was blasting tunes on the radio like the limo driver in Diehard.

Argyle?

 

[SacramentoBob]

One thing that bothered me slightly... Gus had told his driver to wait in the car while he went inside. I would think the driver heard the explosion (or at least saw people acting hysterically), in which case, I would think one of his first phone calls would be to the people at the laundry watching Jesse. But Walt had time to listen to the report on the radio and then drive over to the lab, without them knowing what happened to Gus.Anyway, bothered me slightly as unclear what happened to the driver (unless I missed something, which is possible). Maybe he was blasting tunes on the radio like the limo driver in Diehard.

Was the driver the same guy Walt came back to the lab with or someone different?

 

[TobiasFunke]

Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed

I'm betting those people are long gone and likely couldn't be identified.

Yeah, good point on most of them, but there's gotta be supervisors and drivers and stuff. The supervisors would probably be schooled to keep their mouths shut but you'd think there would be at least a couple people they could interrogate and glean something from.My larger point is that if you have three people dead form an explosion, all of whom have significant history with organized crime and the drug trade, plus a giant explosion that destroys a suspected meth superlab, you're not gonna have everything tied up in a nice little package with a ribbon on top. There would be a ton of law enforcement investigations, and it's reasonable to predict that the writers to have the story line for the final 16 episodes grow out of the investigations.

 

[jdoggydogg]

But that really felt like a series finale, not a season finale. I don't know where they go from here. Clearly, this is a pivotal point in the series. If the writers come up with a fresh story arc next season that passes scrutiny, that's awesome. But I fear with this finale, this show could take a turn for the worse.

Agree completely, which is why it is so compelling. Walt and HAnk HAVE to have some resolution in the end. Its easy to forget that Hank had a very pivotal role in the first three seasons. Hank introduced Walt to the meth stuff, "introduced" him to Cap'n Cook, and their ongoing ego battle no doubt fueled Hank to get in to the business and to stay in. But it's hard to see how they can get on track for an ultimate showdown between the two of them from the point the show is at now to an endpoint 16 episiodes away. And that is the beauty of it. We know the end is coming. A proper ending that navigates from Walt on top of the world to Walt/Jesse/Hank/Skylar settling up all bets and debts will make this the best TV show ever. Period. No discussion. If they don't pull it off, it will be debated as a great show with some flaws like The Sopranos and Seinfeld. I hope Gilligan is up for the challenge.

What's the rule about spoilers here? Is it assumed we've all seen the finale?To be vague just in case:I hope that Walt's descent into evil continues. I don't know that I can buy Walt as the family man anymore after all that's transpired.

 

[SacramentoBob]

But that really felt like a series finale, not a season finale. I don't know where they go from here. Clearly, this is a pivotal point in the series. If the writers come up with a fresh story arc next season that passes scrutiny, that's awesome. But I fear with this finale, this show could take a turn for the worse.

Agree completely, which is why it is so compelling. Walt and HAnk HAVE to have some resolution in the end. Its easy to forget that Hank had a very pivotal role in the first three seasons. Hank introduced Walt to the meth stuff, "introduced" him to Cap'n Cook, and their ongoing ego battle no doubt fueled Hank to get in to the business and to stay in. But it's hard to see how they can get on track for an ultimate showdown between the two of them from the point the show is at now to an endpoint 16 episiodes away. And that is the beauty of it. We know the end is coming. A proper ending that navigates from Walt on top of the world to Walt/Jesse/Hank/Skylar settling up all bets and debts will make this the best TV show ever. Period. No discussion. If they don't pull it off, it will be debated as a great show with some flaws like The Sopranos and Seinfeld. I hope Gilligan is up for the challenge.

What's the rule about spoilers here? Is it assumed we've all seen the finale?To be vague just in case:I hope that Walt's descent into evil continues. I don't know that I can buy Walt as the family man anymore after all that's transpired.

Vic Mackey was more evil than Walt at this point and he was believable as a family man.

 

[Don Quixote]

One thing that bothered me slightly... Gus had told his driver to wait in the car while he went inside. I would think the driver heard the explosion (or at least saw people acting hysterically), in which case, I would think one of his first phone calls would be to the people at the laundry watching Jesse. But Walt had time to listen to the report on the radio and then drive over to the lab, without them knowing what happened to Gus.Anyway, bothered me slightly as unclear what happened to the driver (unless I missed something, which is possible). Maybe he was blasting tunes on the radio like the limo driver in Diehard.

Was the driver the same guy Walt came back to the lab with or someone different?

I didn't pay close enough attention to notice. I thought the two people at the lab were the two people who grabbed Jesse after the interrogation, and Walt high-tailed it out of there after he set the device and before Gus got there.

 

[Thunderlips]

Walt still had 300-400k or more. Plus, he is not leaving the meth business. He IS Heisenberg now. Like I have said in the past, the car wash will be used for the secret lab.

I hope Mike joins Jesse and Heisenberg. That would be sweet. They battle the cartel/Hank or whoever together.

I like the theory, but I don't see how they could set up a lab in the carwash, not another SuperLab anyway. Gus used the cleaners as a front for purchasing the equipment and Hank still suspected it and was able to track it to Gus eventually. No way could all that equipment be purchased, delivered and installed without big time suspicions...unless Hank joins the team to run DEA interference

Suspicion from who? Walter White could order whatever he wanted, nobody is watching him.

you don't think Hank would be checking that company where Gus' equipment came from, to see if someone is going to try to reinvent/take over the local business Gus had established?

I think with the cartel dead and now Gus getting killed it's fairly safe to say that Hank and company are going to find out who killed Gus. It wouldn't make any sense for them to just drop it. Remember, only Hank thought Gus was Heisenberg and the rest weren't sure. When they figure out how the bomb was made and his lab torched they are going to investigate who was behind this.

How exactly are they going to link it to Walt? Why would there minds go there when they could go to a more likely target like the cartel?

They certainly could think it's cartel related although they could also realize or find out pretty much everyone in cartel was killed. It's not as if nobody who the players were involved in cartel. Plus when they find out the bomb was made out of a kitchen they'll know this isn't a cartel type killing.Ways to potentially link Walt..

Someone in retirement center who saw Walt

Someone (or recorded) in parking lot Walt's car in retirement center

Anything recorded showing Walt/Jesse in meth lab or around plant? < Would think Gus wouldn't tape anything but what if they find someone in his office of chicken restaurant that mentions Walt or Jesse?

Anyone working at plant who police bring in and they point out Jesse/Walt?

It's not as if Walt and Jesse has been hidden from everyone. Plus, they have 16 more episodes left so I assume there's going to be drama from the following:

1. Walt setting up shop / cook meth

2. Hank investigating and convinced that someone else is out there still alive and in ABQ. No way will Hank and police will just say "Great, Gus is dead, we all knew he was the head of meth lab, our work is done!" To me Hank now is going to believe that Gus was the leader but there's someone who is just as dangerous/powerful and behind the killing. Can't be Scarface without killing the boss.

That said, not even Gilligan knows, he said last episode was made with the possibility that was the final episode and they haven't written any new shows yet.

I'm not buying any of this. Only if Jessie and Walt were already suspects. Which they are not. A person at the retirement home? Who, the old lady who is dressed like she never left the 50s? An employee who sees many people come in and out of that building every day? Nope. An employee at the chicken restaurant? The minimum wager there knows Walt and Jessie's names? Nope.

The way Hank starts to suspect Walt and Jessie is yet to come.

Don't you have to check into a retirement home? Or can anyone just stroll on in?

The only things I can think of that might lead Hank to suspect Walt is from Season one:

The gas mask and gear were stolen from the chem lab at Walt's school (could be Jesse I suppose)

Jesse's association with Walt (school/buying dope (I think Skyler told Hank)

Hank was looking for Walt when he was following Jesse's car and found Tuco ( I believe)

Walter's "fugue state" disappearance during this time period

Walter's disappearance during the last 3 episode of this season

Hank is pretty sharp. I don't think it will take much for him to start to connect the dots. I just think he believes Walter to be an utter milquetoast and the possibility won't enter his mind at this point.

I am sure after the fact Hank will be like "It all makes sense now!" (if he survives next season).

I haven't even considered what will show up in all the surveillance video.

I'm hoping it's some family time moment where Walt subtlety challenges Hank's Alpha status as the head of the family that Hank connects the dots. To me, the reveal should come out of their personal relationship and dynamics.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Then you've got the followup DEA investigation into the laundry facility. Once that's established as a front any and all employees will be interviewed

I'm betting those people are long gone and likely couldn't be identified.

Yea, I was under the impression that most of the workers there were illegals. They're not going to willingly talk to the policia.

 

[jamny]

Is Season 5 already written?

 

[ArcticEdge]

That was a fantastic season. But that really felt like a series finale, not a season finale. I don't know where they go from here. Clearly, this is a pivotal point in the series. If the writers come up with a fresh story arc next season that passes scrutiny, that's awesome. But I fear with this finale, this show could take a turn for the worse.And where the hell is Mike? Major mistake to completely write him out of the last two episodes.

When they wrote it, they still hadn't finalized a new season with AMC so it could very well have been a finale. I think it did a good job of serving as either a finale or a new arc for the next season. And Mike >>>> Tyrus. If Mike was back (and not still healing in Mexico) then Gus would still be alive. So they had to leave him there.

Mike is . Can't wait to see how they use him next season.

 

[Sam Quentin]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

 

[jamny]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

 

[ArcticEdge]

Everyone keeps saying 16 more episodes.. Was that how many episodes were in season 4? It didnt seem like it.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

That's been :confirmed:

 

[ArcticEdge]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

That's been :confirmed:

 

[Raider Nation]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

That's been :confirmed:

Try reading the stuff I post now and then, jerky. http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=454875&view=findpost&p=13658240

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

That's been :confirmed:

Hard of hearing? THERE WILL BE TWO 8 EPISODE SEASONS NEXT YEAR.

 

[SacramentoBob]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

 

[jamny]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

That's been :confirmed:

Hard of hearing? THERE WILL BE TWO 8 EPISODE SEASONS NEXT YEAR.

How much time between each?

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

 

[Don Quixote]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

 

[prosopis]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

Writers strike?

 

[Raider Nation]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

And the last half of the sixth and final season of The Sopranos was only 9 episodes.(They should have stopped after season 5.)

 

[SacramentoBob]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

Unacceptable.

 

[oukurt]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

And the last half of the sixth and final season of The Sopranos was only 9 episodes.(They should have stopped after season 5.)

I hope we don't say the same thing for Breaking Bad after next season. I just can't see next season coming close to being as intriguing as this season. I just can't see myself enjoying the show as much without Gus. I know there are a couple of loose ends to tie up, but I have a feeling season 5 is going to feel forced. Had they finished up a couple more story lines they could have tied a nice bow on season 4 and gone out as the greatest series of all time. Hope I am wrong.

 

[Walton Goggins]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

And the last half of the sixth and final season of The Sopranos was only 9 episodes.(They should have stopped after season 5.)

I hope we don't say the same thing for Breaking Bad after next season. I just can't see next season coming close to being as intriguing as this season. I just can't see myself enjoying the show as much without Gus. I know there are a couple of loose ends to tie up, but I have a feeling season 5 is going to feel forced. Had they finished up a couple more story lines they could have tied a nice bow on season 4 and gone out as the greatest series of all time. Hope I am wrong.

Gus will be back next year in flashbacks, similar to Gale

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Is Season 5 already written?

NopeThe writers will start getting together in November to hash out the season

But it's a guaranteed last season?

Guaranteed. They've optioned about 16 episodes. Possibility that'll be two 8 episode seasons.

That's been :confirmed:

Hard of hearing? THERE WILL BE TWO 8 EPISODE SEASONS NEXT YEAR.

How much time between each?

That, I don't know.

 

[oukurt]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

And the last half of the sixth and final season of The Sopranos was only 9 episodes.(They should have stopped after season 5.)

I hope we don't say the same thing for Breaking Bad after next season. I just can't see next season coming close to being as intriguing as this season. I just can't see myself enjoying the show as much without Gus. I know there are a couple of loose ends to tie up, but I have a feeling season 5 is going to feel forced. Had they finished up a couple more story lines they could have tied a nice bow on season 4 and gone out as the greatest series of all time. Hope I am wrong.

Gus will be back next year in flashbacks, similar to Gale

Yes I figured as much but it just won't be the same. Do you see the possiblity of a huge fail with a season 5 or do you have faith in Gilligan and his team? I guess I should have more faith.

 

[joffer]

all caught up. AWESOME

 

[Raider Nation]

Any chance Flynn is "away at college" for the final 16 episodes?

Though, I would certainly miss his vital ONE LINE... like last week. "Yeah, I agree Uncle Hank."

 

[Big_Russel]

An 8 episode season seems weird.

Walking Dead was only 6 episodes the first season

And first season of Breaking Bad was only 7.

And the last half of the sixth and final season of The Sopranos was only 9 episodes.(They should have stopped after season 5.)

I hope we don't say the same thing for Breaking Bad after next season. I just can't see next season coming close to being as intriguing as this season. I just can't see myself enjoying the show as much without Gus. I know there are a couple of loose ends to tie up, but I have a feeling season 5 is going to feel forced. Had they finished up a couple more story lines they could have tied a nice bow on season 4 and gone out as the greatest series of all time. Hope I am wrong.

Gus will be back next year in flashbacks, similar to Gale

...after The Wire. as great as BB is, and as much as I love it... The Wire is still the Holy Grail. IMO.