Reg Lllama of Brixton
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Like I said I've never been a fantasy type of guy.
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Me neither. I never read any Lord of the Rings book of any kind. I saw pieces of the first movie, none of the second, and I think the end of the third randomly on HBO. I really have no desire to either. But Thrones I am into big time. I've now read 4 of the 5 books as well. And I am of the opinion that the world created is rivaled only by the Star Wars universe, and coming from me (if you knew me) that really says something.Like I said I've never been a fantasy type of guy.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I'm not a fan of the Rings movies, and the only fantasy I ever got into was the Conan books.Like I said I've never been a fantasy type of guy.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Fans of the show should definitely check out this podcast. The /Filmcast crew discusses the series finale with spoilers.
I don't think this requires a spoiler as it is talking about things people reading this thread should already know. I don't completely agree with you. Gus was someone with connections in Chile. But it's not like the Cartel cowered to him. They killed his right-hand man, humiliated him and only barely spared him because of these connections. That does not convey someone that big. The reason they wouldn't snipe him was because they needed him. He was a cash cow for them in the U.S. and they wanted to be partners. Killing him would cost them money. There could be some flashbacks to Gus next season. I'm hopeful we'll get some more background on his Chilean history, but I also wouldn't be shocked if it were never mentioned again.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
One of the theories discussed in the podcast is that Gus' partner - the one killed by the Mexican cartel - was Gus' gay lover. This might have occurred to everyone except me, but I find it fascinating. If that's true, it informs a lot a about the vast extent of Gus' revenge.
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Okay, just finished Boxcutter. Man I have a lot to get watched so i can read this thread in its entirety.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Walter won. He said so himself. To the victor goes the spoils. He's got the means to produce, the ability to hide it (the carwash) and noone to stop him (the Cartel in the South will be going through a power vaccum and all of Gus's top men (save Mike who seems to be more of a hired gun than loyal to Gus) are gone). He's going to produce his ### off until Hank catches him.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I thought that immediately when I saw that episode...pretty sure it was discussed hereI feel kind of silly that it never occurred to me
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Before I look at that, did you mean season finale? Or series finale? Why would anybody want to know about the series finale before it airs?
Major
Footballguy
I thought that immediately when I saw that episode...pretty sure it was discussed here
you silly goose...gaydar down?
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Hank wears a lot of orangeHis wife wears a lot of purple (almost always)Walt wears a lot of greenSkylar wears a lot of blueWhats with the ever growing amount of purple #### in Hank's house?!GF Pointed it out... been getting worse and worse through season 4.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
Whoops. Sorry. Typo. They discuss the season finale and the entire season. Check it out.
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
I feel kind of silly that it never occurred to me
Sebowski
Footballguy
Walter won. He said so himself. To the victor goes the spoils. He's got the means to produce, the ability to hide it (the carwash) and noone to stop him (the Cartel in the South will be going through a power vaccum and all of Gus's top men (save Mike who seems to be more of a hired gun than loyal to Gus) are gone). He's going to produce his ### off until Hank catches him.Maybe. That's not how I see it though. I think he tries to play life straight and gets drawn back in by forces beyond his control. I think the first episode of next season will be a flash forward of him running he carwash trying to be a normal family man. Then the #### hits the fan.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
'Sebowski said:
Walter won. He said so himself. To the victor goes the spoils. He's got the means to produce, the ability to hide it (the carwash) and noone to stop him (the Cartel in the South will be going through a power vaccum and all of Gus's top men (save Mike who seems to be more of a hired gun than loyal to Gus) are gone). He's going to produce his ### off until Hank catches him.
I dunno. That would be a 180 from the transformation we've seen him make. Once Skylar found out, he could have always picked up and bailed. But he gets off on it. He considers himself to have been sleepwalking through life before all of this. This is him. I have a hard time seeing the writers being comfortable just disregarding all that, turning it off, and making him content to go back to a simple life. Skylar will try to talk him into it and he might even last a few days, but he's got the bug.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Maybe. That's not how I see it though. I think he tries to play life straight and gets drawn back in by forces beyond his control. I think the first episode of next season will be a flash forward of him running he carwash trying to be a normal family man. Then the #### hits the fan.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Maybe. That's not how I see it though. I think he tries to play life straight and gets drawn back in by forces beyond his control. I think the first episode of next season will be a flash forward of him running he carwash trying to be a normal family man. Then the #### hits the fan.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I'm generally not into collegehumor.com, but this is brilliant:
http://www.collegehumor.com/e/6701398(And be sure to watch "Walt Jr's Quest" at the end.)
http://www.collegehumor.com/e/6701398(And be sure to watch "Walt Jr's Quest" at the end.)
Brady Marino
Footballguy
Charlie Frown
Footballguy
'Don Quixote said:
regularguy
Footballguy
'Don Quixote said:
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Gale Hunt.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Whats the best way to see S4, without having to pay $2.99/episode on itunes?
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Insoxicated
I paid $20 or something on Amazon for the season.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
This is where I watched it:http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/breaking_bad/season_4.html
Topes
Footballguy
I kind of suspect he'll be needed by Walter.
Topes
Footballguy
Well, isn't Season 5 supposed to be the final season..?Or are those spoiler links about the 4th season.
The Duff Man
Footballguy
Just realized that Dean Norris (Hank) was the Trooper from Little Miss Sunsine.
Mineral hobby my *ss!
Mineral hobby my *ss!
Major
Footballguy
After reading this article I couldn't help but think of Gus, Tio and the Mexican operation:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/world/americas/mexico-says-supplier-for-sinaloa-drug-gang-is-arrested.html
MEXICO CITY — The federal police said Tuesday that they had arrested a major operative for Mexico’s most wanted drug trafficker, part of a string of recent arrests that suggested that the authorities had redoubled efforts to capture him and break up the gang he commands, the nation’s most powerful.
The police said they had captured Jaime Herrera Herrera, known as “the old man,” on Monday and accused him of being one of the main manufacturers and distributors of methamphetamine for the Sinaloa gang, which is led by Mexico’s most wanted man, Joaquín Guzmán, better known as El Chapo, or Shorty.
Mr. Herrera, 43, is also wanted by the United States on drug trafficking charges, the police said.
Mexico has made a concerted effort to take down top leaders of criminal organizations, saying 22 of the 37 most important kingpins have been captured or killed since 2009. American officials have said President Felipe Calderón has pressed for more high-profile captures, even as a growing body of analysts suggest that the country needs to focus more on shoring up its justice system to weaken the groups.
Many arrests have come through tightening bonds with American authorities. David H. Petraeus, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and Alejandro Poiré, Mexico’s interior secretary and former head of intelligence, recently exchanged visits.
But more than anything, a recent string of arrests of associates of Mr. Guzmán has fed impressions here that the authorities may be getting closer to the man himself. For Mr. Calderón in this presidential election year, Mr. Guzmán’s capture would be something akin to the killing of Osama bin Laden.
The public has grown increasingly wary of the drug war here, which the government said last month had led to the deaths of more than 47,000 people since 2006, when Mr. Calderón began an offensive against the gangs as violence increased.
Mr. Calderón has said that the authorities have come close to capturing Mr. Guzmán, but that he eluded them and is believed to be hiding in remote mountains in northwest Mexico.
Edgardo Buscaglia, a senior scholar at Columbia University and longtime researcher of organized crime in Mexico and elsewhere, said, “The capture of Chapo would represent huge political capital” both for Mr. Calderón, whose party is trailing in presidential polls, and for the Obama administration, anxious to show results of the increasing United States involvement in Mexico’s drug war.
Still, Mexican officials have denied political motives behind the crackdown.
Alejandro Hope, until recently a senior intelligence officer for Mexico and now a security consultant, said knocking out kingpins depended more on the intelligence of the moment than a strategy to single out one group.
“What is clear is you cannot schedule the capture of capos,” he said. But targeting them does not always weaken the organizations, which often quickly replace lieutenants. “Some, like logistics guys, are easy to replace,” he said. “Others with more expertise, like the financial guys, are much harder and a bigger, more difficult target.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/world/americas/mexico-says-supplier-for-sinaloa-drug-gang-is-arrested.html
MEXICO CITY — The federal police said Tuesday that they had arrested a major operative for Mexico’s most wanted drug trafficker, part of a string of recent arrests that suggested that the authorities had redoubled efforts to capture him and break up the gang he commands, the nation’s most powerful.
The police said they had captured Jaime Herrera Herrera, known as “the old man,” on Monday and accused him of being one of the main manufacturers and distributors of methamphetamine for the Sinaloa gang, which is led by Mexico’s most wanted man, Joaquín Guzmán, better known as El Chapo, or Shorty.
Mr. Herrera, 43, is also wanted by the United States on drug trafficking charges, the police said.
Mexico has made a concerted effort to take down top leaders of criminal organizations, saying 22 of the 37 most important kingpins have been captured or killed since 2009. American officials have said President Felipe Calderón has pressed for more high-profile captures, even as a growing body of analysts suggest that the country needs to focus more on shoring up its justice system to weaken the groups.
Many arrests have come through tightening bonds with American authorities. David H. Petraeus, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and Alejandro Poiré, Mexico’s interior secretary and former head of intelligence, recently exchanged visits.
But more than anything, a recent string of arrests of associates of Mr. Guzmán has fed impressions here that the authorities may be getting closer to the man himself. For Mr. Calderón in this presidential election year, Mr. Guzmán’s capture would be something akin to the killing of Osama bin Laden.
The public has grown increasingly wary of the drug war here, which the government said last month had led to the deaths of more than 47,000 people since 2006, when Mr. Calderón began an offensive against the gangs as violence increased.
Mr. Calderón has said that the authorities have come close to capturing Mr. Guzmán, but that he eluded them and is believed to be hiding in remote mountains in northwest Mexico.
Edgardo Buscaglia, a senior scholar at Columbia University and longtime researcher of organized crime in Mexico and elsewhere, said, “The capture of Chapo would represent huge political capital” both for Mr. Calderón, whose party is trailing in presidential polls, and for the Obama administration, anxious to show results of the increasing United States involvement in Mexico’s drug war.
Still, Mexican officials have denied political motives behind the crackdown.
Alejandro Hope, until recently a senior intelligence officer for Mexico and now a security consultant, said knocking out kingpins depended more on the intelligence of the moment than a strategy to single out one group.
“What is clear is you cannot schedule the capture of capos,” he said. But targeting them does not always weaken the organizations, which often quickly replace lieutenants. “Some, like logistics guys, are easy to replace,” he said. “Others with more expertise, like the financial guys, are much harder and a bigger, more difficult target.”
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James Daulton
Footballguy
I think Gus is the editor in Once Upon a Time.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
Buggin Out...
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Just watched Season 4 and I really can't think of one reason for there to even be a Season 5.
Marvin
Footballguy
Money?
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Well, sure. I meant for the characters though, not the network.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
When will season 4 stream on netflix?
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Hopefully for Skylar to find out she has a horrible disease from Ted. Hank to break bad, Walt and Mike to break good, Jessie to team up with Hank, and Walt Jr to finally move on to lunch.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Because Walt won.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
Would the writers ever consider letting Walt die of his disease, or is it a foregone conclusion that he has to go out like Tony Montana?
lloyd christmas
Footballguy
Hank vs Walt
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Man...I don't know. It's not the direction that I'd like to see it go in....but I'd be fine with cancer coming back and killing him if it wasn't the primary focus of the final episodes. That would definitely be anti-climatic though.
Abraham
Footballguy
You seem to have forgotten that the show arc began with Walt as the weak one and Hank as strong. It reversed over time and is now coming full circle. It has to conclude.
kentric
Footballguy
Made my way through season one and the first four episodes in season two in a week. What a great show. Well written, directed and acted. Hank is a scream - just a little rough around the edges. Love the time settings they do (one week earlier). Surprised that there hasn't been any finger pointing at Walter from DEA members who don't know that Walter is Hank's B-I-L - although its easy to see why someone wouldn't point at him if they do know he's Hank's B-I-L (Hank doesn't take #### from anyone). The meth is super-high quality, they figure its someone very learned and for those DEA who watched the chemical drum being stolen from the depot, they aren't street-wise. Throw in the items stolen from the High School and you get Walt.
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
mid-July, I believe
Carver
Footballguy
Mr. Know-It-All
Footballguy
Enjoy it and don't read this thread - it is truly one of the best dramatic series ever. I didn't get hooked until last Fall and then I went back and watched all of the seasons consecutively. It is quite simply a masterpiece. Can't believe it took me that long to discover this gem.
Socrates11
Footballguy
One of those who never got around to watching it on TV, got convinced by friends to give a try, and blazed through the 4 seasons thinking it's one of the best eva.
One thing I hope they do with season 5 is explain what happened with Walt that caused him to flame-out as the chemistry superstar. Didn't he have a plaque from NASA hanging on his wall in the first episode? And I know he was banging Gretchen before she married Elliot and that they are started the bio-tech company, but they've never really explained why Walt gave that all up? Couldn't just be the love triangle thing.
Effin brilliant show.
One thing I hope they do with season 5 is explain what happened with Walt that caused him to flame-out as the chemistry superstar. Didn't he have a plaque from NASA hanging on his wall in the first episode? And I know he was banging Gretchen before she married Elliot and that they are started the bio-tech company, but they've never really explained why Walt gave that all up? Couldn't just be the love triangle thing.
Effin brilliant show.
