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What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.

 
2.06 - Brock (I thought this before the episode, but now thinking more maybe, with the scene with Walt).

The WW book totally Checkhov's Gun.... is that what sets off Hank's suspicions?

 
What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.
I took it as Walt thinking Gus cut him because he knew too much about the business. Walt was then thinking as soon as he knows what Mike does, he can Victor him. Maybe?
 
What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.
Walt was threatening Jesse, no? He was pissed at Jesse for telling Mike he could take the "legacy money" out of his share.
I immediately thought he was talking about Mike, how Mike is like Victor and pushing his luck; my wife immediately thought he was "warning" Jesse, "he thought he could cook on his own". Watching it a second time, still wasn't clear to either of us.
 
I think the reference to Victor was that he overstepped his bounds. Which Walt thinks Mike did.

Walt thinks he is the sun. He is too dumb to know how much he needs Mike, and since he has often been the instrument of his own demise, having him take out Mike, causing things to crumble around him would fit his character.

 
What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.
I'm assuming it was a warning to Jesse for taking sides with Mike about the distribution of the cash.
I took it as Walt referring to Mike since he was taking liberties with the money that he maybe shouldnt have (Mike making "his guys" whole by paying them from all three of their shares).Also...the nanny cam line has to come into play later, no? And why did they leave the lab tent up? They turned on the poison and left the house with the tent still erect.
 
There was a nice little nod in the cook tent, showing Walt and Jesse making the batch, there was a beautiful shot of the aluminum scraps being added to the mix. Of course, that was the part Walt was sure Victor would miss when he watched him cook solo in "Box Cutter". "Bet you he forgets the aluminum." Making a subtle reference to that episode earlier really hit when Walt brought up Victor at the end.

 
What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.
I'm assuming it was a warning to Jesse for taking sides with Mike about the distribution of the cash.
I took it as Walt referring to Mike since he was taking liberties with the money that he maybe shouldnt have (Mike making "his guys" whole by paying them from all three of their shares).Also...the nanny cam line has to come into play later, no? And why did they leave the lab tent up? They turned on the poison and left the house with the tent still erect.
So the poison wouldn't get on the cooking equipment.
 
They turned on the poison and left the house with the tent still erect.
I think they leave it for the Vamonos Pest team to disassemble for them. Although, conceivably, if they don't open it up the carpet underneath could still hide insects and cause problems for the now-clean pest control business.
 
Walt is a full on bad ### now.- he controls the business and I control him- he doesnt go in to talk to Skyler, screw her she will fall in line, I will just eat this apple- How do you feel (to Jessie). Cuts him off....I meant about the moneySklyer is going to be a liability soon, will Walt call in Mike? I dont think he is far from being able to.
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What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.
I'm assuming it was a warning to Jesse for taking sides with Mike about the distribution of the cash.
I took it as Walt referring to Mike since he was taking liberties with the money that he maybe shouldnt have (Mike making "his guys" whole by paying them from all three of their shares).Also...the nanny cam line has to come into play later, no? And why did they leave the lab tent up? They turned on the poison and left the house with the tent still erect.
So the poison wouldn't get on the cooking equipment.
Ok. I went back and looked and the lab equipment is still in it. I originally thought they packed it all up. But the carpet underneath is left untreated, so no bueno.
 
Walt is a full on bad ### now.- he controls the business and I control him- he doesnt go in to talk to Skyler, screw her she will fall in line, I will just eat this apple- How do you feel (to Jessie). Cuts him off....I meant about the moneySklyer is going to be a liability soon, will Walt call in Mike? I dont think he is far from being able to.
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Walt was a badass. He's getting closer to being a dumb###.
 
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Marie!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

:lmao:

 
Marie!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP! :lmao:
I didn't take as much joy in that scene as I would have imagined, given Skyler's meltdown.
 
This show is so awesome. I've not watched The Wire so I'll give that an "undecided", but breaking Bad smokes sopranos and everything else I've seen from start to finish.

 
What was the deal with the conversation at the end of the show between Jessie and Walt? Walt eluded to Victor flying too close to the sun.
Walt was threatening Jesse, no? He was pissed at Jesse for telling Mike he could take the "legacy money" out of his share.
I immediately thought he was talking about Mike, how Mike is like Victor and pushing his luck; my wife immediately thought he was "warning" Jesse, "he thought he could cook on his own". Watching it a second time, still wasn't clear to either of us.
Both. Mike overtly, Jesse a little veiled.
 
the nanny cam line has to come into play later, no?
Landry disabled it.
Yeah I know, but why even have that line if its not gonna come into play later, perhaps unless it was so Landry could earn a little trust from Walt and Jesse...maybe?
Yes.
I think it was just meant to tell the viewer that the exterminators are on the look out for snooping homeowners. Just trying to make the whole idea more plausible.I think the idea of cooking out of these homes is a stretch. I bet if you asked an exterminator they'd say it was not uncommon for a homeowner to return to the house unexpectedly.

It's a stretch but trivial at this point in the story.

 
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the nanny cam line has to come into play later, no?
Landry disabled it.
Yeah I know, but why even have that line if its not gonna come into play later, perhaps unless it was so Landry could earn a little trust from Walt and Jesse...maybe?
Yes.
I think it was just meant to tell the viewer that the exterminators are on the look out for snooping homeowners. Just trying to make the whole idea more plausible.I think the idea of cooking out of these homes is a stretch. I bet if you asked an exterminator they'd say it was not uncommon for a homeowner to return to the house unexpectedly.

It's a stretch but trivial at this point in the story.
Thats why i love this angle, i keep waiting for someone to walk in on them, keeps the tension levels high :thumbup:
 
the nanny cam line has to come into play later, no?
Landry disabled it.
Yeah I know, but why even have that line if its not gonna come into play later, perhaps unless it was so Landry could earn a little trust from Walt and Jesse...maybe?
Yes.
I think it was just meant to tell the viewer that the exterminators are on the look out for snooping homeowners. Just trying to make the whole idea more plausible.I think the idea of cooking out of these homes is a stretch. I bet if you asked an exterminator they'd say it was not uncommon for a homeowner to return to the house unexpectedly.

It's a stretch but trivial at this point in the story.
I believe Landry will be a bigger part of the show this season.

This interaction did both; solidified the storyline and introduced the new character.

 
I cannot imagine Marie keeping her mouth shut re: Skyler and Ted.

Will likely be a catalyst towards a showdown of some sort.

 
The shut up bit was pretty gratifying, even if they overdid Marie building up to it.

The homeowners coming home is easily addressed by putting a man outside the house while they're cooking. If I have an issue with this season, it has nothing to do with the plausibility of the magnet or the pest control set-up, but with what a moron Walt has become.

 
The show has slways been a bit unrealistic. The unowned mobile labs isnt too much of a stretch considering other things. I almost like the idea. Skyler and Marie are horrible. That may have been my least liked scene of the series so far.

This 8 episode season is a bad idea though. Whats the point?

 
There was an episode of Malcolm in the Middle where Hal & Lois went back into their fumigated house for some "intimacy". Also during that episode, Malcolm is babysitting for a rich(er) family and finds out they were spying on him with a nanny-cam. I thought it was a nice homage.

 
The show has slways been a bit unrealistic. The unowned mobile labs isnt too much of a stretch considering other things. I almost like the idea. Skyler and Marie are horrible. That may have been my least liked scene of the series so far. This 8 episode season is a bad idea though. Whats the point?
AMC wants to keep the cachet of their network up for as long as possible.
 
I like the Vamanos Pest idea.

As I mentioned last week, I'll be disappointed (in the show) if Jesse doesn't wise up to Walt very soon. If the little Victor speech doesn't officially set that in motion, then something's off. I don't care how much he's been manipulated or how much he longs for a daddy figure, at some point, he's just an idiot. I thought he was already past that point. Now, he's absolutely past it.

There's simply no way that Jesse can't see that the Walt he once knew is gone and has been replaced with a time bomb that will get him killed or kill him himself.Aside from Mike being a decent human being, he's also the only one Jesse needs of the two.

If this thing drags out any longer, then I think they are artificially trying to build suspense and not being true to the characters (unless anyone believes Jesse a complete doe-eyed buffoon).

 
I like the Vamanos Pest idea.

As I mentioned last week, I'll be disappointed (in the show) if Jesse doesn't wise up to Walt very soon. If the little Victor speech doesn't officially set that in motion, then something's off. I don't care how much he's been manipulated or how much he longs for a daddy figure, at some point, he's just an idiot. I thought he was already past that point. Now, he's absolutely past it.

There's simply no way that Jesse can't see that the Walt he once knew is gone and has been replaced with a time bomb that will get him killed or kill him himself.Aside from Mike being a decent human being, he's also the only one Jesse needs of the two.

If this thing drags out any longer, then I think they are artificially trying to build suspense and not being true to the characters (unless anyone believes Jesse a complete doe-eyed buffoon).
Of course Jesse was going to wise up to Walt. With how stupid Walt has become, it was inevitable that he would do or say something to tip Jesse off to the fact that he's gone around the bend.
 
I can foresee a scene where kids are playing hide-n-seek or something similar, maybe a neighbor's kid so that the family leaving the house wouldn't be suspicious of someone missing in one of these houses that is getting fumigated. The kid walks in on Jesse and Walt and Walt has to make the executive decision to knock the kid out and make it look like he died due to the fumigation to keep him quiet. This would wake Jesse up to Brock and get the tangent spinning. A bit of a stretch but there are a number of ways for this moveable location to backfire on them.

 
I like the Vamanos Pest idea.As I mentioned last week, I'll be disappointed (in the show) if Jesse doesn't wise up to Walt very soon. If the little Victor speech doesn't officially set that in motion, then something's off. I don't care how much he's been manipulated or how much he longs for a daddy figure, at some point, he's just an idiot. I thought he was already past that point. Now, he's absolutely past it.There's simply no way that Jesse can't see that the Walt he once knew is gone and has been replaced with a time bomb that will get him killed or kill him himself.Aside from Mike being a decent human being, he's also the only one Jesse needs of the two.If this thing drags out any longer, then I think they are artificially trying to build suspense and not being true to the characters (unless anyone believes Jesse a complete doe-eyed buffoon).
Jesse still feels a ton of guilt. Walt has been nothing but gentle and reassuring to Jesse this season (until the final scene of the last episode). In past seasons Walt was a total ##### to Jesse 90% of the time. I think it's totally plausible that Jesse hasn't wised up yet.Obviously Walt is ridiculously overconfident at this point and his demeanor makes it clear that any decency he had is gone. There's a total calmness to everything he does that hasn't been there in the past. It will be what does him in, but I think his appeasement of Jesse and Marie has been totally effective so far. His attitude with Mike is what's going to tip the first domino that leads to his unraveling.
 
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The shut up bit was pretty gratifying, even if they overdid Marie building up to it.The homeowners coming home is easily addressed by putting a man outside the house while they're cooking. If I have an issue with this season, it has nothing to do with the plausibility of the magnet or the pest control set-up, but with what a moron Walt has become.
The steady buildup in Walt's transformation sure took a mega-leap this season. Now he's not making one decision with anyone else in mind but himself.I know this is the last season, but I would much prefer that slower transition.
 
The shut up bit was pretty gratifying, even if they overdid Marie building up to it.The homeowners coming home is easily addressed by putting a man outside the house while they're cooking. If I have an issue with this season, it has nothing to do with the plausibility of the magnet or the pest control set-up, but with what a moron Walt has become.
The steady buildup in Walt's transformation sure took a mega-leap this season. Now he's not making one decision with anyone else in mind but himself.I know this is the last season, but I would much prefer that slower transition.
I kinda get that, but in fairness he did just kill Jesse James so he's probably feeling pretty untouchable
 
The shut up bit was pretty gratifying, even if they overdid Marie building up to it.The homeowners coming home is easily addressed by putting a man outside the house while they're cooking. If I have an issue with this season, it has nothing to do with the plausibility of the magnet or the pest control set-up, but with what a moron Walt has become.
The steady buildup in Walt's transformation sure took a mega-leap this season. Now he's not making one decision with anyone else in mind but himself.I know this is the last season, but I would much prefer that slower transition.
I kinda get that, but in fairness he did just kill Jesse James so he's probably feeling pretty untouchable
Which is why Mike made sure to remind him of Robert Ford.
 
Mke is no dummy, there is no way Walt gets the drop on him. Maybe Mike makes the first move, and Jessie is forced to choose whether or not to intervene.

Nice mind hump by Walt to get Jessie to dump his girl.

 

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