Breaking Bad on AMC (4 Viewers)

[top dog]

open question to anyone

How many clips would a dea agent like Hank normally carry?

How many shots are in Gomeys shotgun?

I think if I remember right, Hank carry's a 40 cal. Glock. Or at least he was playing with one at a party early in the show. Let's say he's carrying a Glock 22, with a 15 round magazine and he has 3 spare magazines in his pockets. That would give him about 60 bullets. That shotgun can't hold much. Can't see Gomez having an assload of shotgun shells stuck in his pants.. They both probably have a backup handgun with another 10-15 shots.

Yeah.. They aren't going to outlast the Nazi's very long.

 

[timschochet]

I'm watching the shootout scene again because I didn't know how no one appeared to be hit.

Upon reviewing I can now see they had ample protection

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5439859456/h3E7D9834/

Really an awful scene. What a shame.

I just don't get you guys. You ignore stuff like the incredible cinematography (is that the right word for a TV show?), buildup of tension, sharp direction, acting, etc. you focus entirely on whether or not a scene meets your personal conception of how the plot should unfold, and if it doesn't it's "awful". Just a terrible way to evaluate such a brilliant piece of entertainment.

 

[comfortably numb]

I'm watching the shootout scene again because I didn't know how no one appeared to be hit.

Upon reviewing I can now see they had ample protection

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5439859456/h3E7D9834/

Really an awful scene. What a shame.

I just don't get you guys. You ignore stuff like the incredible cinematography (is that the right word for a TV show?), buildup of tension, sharp direction, acting, etc. you focus entirely on whether or not a scene meets your personal conception of how the plot should unfold, and if it doesn't it's "awful". Just a terrible way to evaluate such a brilliant piece of entertainment.

Go start a draft!

 

[Peyton Marino]

They cant ALL die. Somebody has to oout him as heisenberg. My guess is gomez survives

Really? Marie? Skylar? Saul, Huell?

 

[Premier]

I'm watching the shootout scene again because I didn't know how no one appeared to be hit.

Upon reviewing I can now see they had ample protection

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5439859456/h3E7D9834/

Really an awful scene. What a shame.

I just don't get you guys. You ignore stuff like the incredible cinematography (is that the right word for a TV show?), buildup of tension, sharp direction, acting, etc. you focus entirely on whether or not a scene meets your personal conception of how the plot should unfold, and if it doesn't it's "awful". Just a terrible way to evaluate such a brilliant piece of entertainment.

I....I....agree with Tim.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

The hank angles are getting kind of, dare I say, stupid.

Huell and fake brains?

You're really going to criticize that episode?

Again I'm not sure how else to end up there, but I just didn't buy the huelle thing. Just wrapping too neatly. I guess that's typical though and I've ignored it with magnets and whatnot. So I retract a bit. Hank and Gomez should be dead already though. That was dumb.

No offense, but reading this thread you constantly come across as wanting to stand up and scream from the rafters "SEE!!!! I TOLD YOU THEY WOULD BLOW IT!!!!" Sit back and enjoy the show, man.

Really? I've said every episode was good so far and argued against those complaining.

 

[Premier]

We're going to see the likely very brutal conclusion to that gunfight in the first 3 minutes next week. You guys should really just stop nitpicking and enjoy the ride.

 

[avoiding injuries]

The uncle taking off his mask is setting up something to come.

 

[FlapJacks]

Also two scientific questions: why is Walt's product blue? Is that just written into the script for the heck of it, or is there actually some kind of formula that he is using which, in real life, would produce a blue product? Anyone know?

Secondly: when the uncle doesn't have a mask on at the start of the episode, how likely is he to get sick? And what would happen if he did- would he die? Pass out?

Bump. Anybody know this stuff?

The blue is a distinctive quality written in by the writers. Pure traditional meth would not be blue.

 

[Peyton Marino]

lol at people calling jesse a #####. walt has been manipulating him for the better part of a year and poisoned a kid as part of that. at that point, there's no holds barred in the pursuit of revenge IMO.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

lol at people calling jesse a #####. walt has been manipulating him for the better part of a year and poisoned a kid as part of that. at that point, there's no holds barred in the pursuit of revenge IMO.

Yeah, but he's hiding out in the car instead of jumping out and duking it out with finger pistols

 

[comfortably numb]

We're going to see the likely very brutal conclusion to that gunfight in the first 3 minutes next week. You guys should really just stop nitpicking and enjoy the ride.

I'm teasing on my end with regards to the shootout.

I love the show and am always willing to suspend belief and I do think next few minutes of the show will show several people on both side down BUT there were probably 100 shots fired at fairly close with all guns drawn and aimed for about 1 min with no apparent hits.

They are going to need some training form the Walking Dead people who could hit zombies with head shots while doing 35mph hanging off the side of a truck.

 

[Ghost Rider]

lol at people calling jesse a #####. walt has been manipulating him for the better part of a year and poisoned a kid as part of that. at that point, there's no holds barred in the pursuit of revenge IMO.

Walt has also saved his butt on multiple occasions, where Jesse would have ended up dead if not for Walt, as a result of Jesse doing something really stupid:

-bringing Emilio and Krazy-8 out to their RV in the pilot

-going after the drug dealers in Half Measure

-getting high and showing up late for their first meeting with Gus

-etc.

Jesse might the lesser of two evils, but I can see why Walt felt like he had to manipulate Jesse. Left to his own devices, Jesse's stupidity would have done him in long ago if not for Walt.

 

[timschochet]

It might not be resolved in the first 3 minutes. If history is any indication, we may be treated to a long scene with Skyler, or Marie, or somebody else before returning to the gunfight.

 

[TheIronSheik]

We're going to see the likely very brutal conclusion to that gunfight in the first 3 minutes next week. You guys should really just stop nitpicking and enjoy the ride.

I'm teasing on my end with regards to the shootout.

I love the show and am always willing to suspend belief and I do think next few minutes of the show will show several people on both side down BUT there were probably 100 shots fired at fairly close with all guns drawn and aimed for about 1 min with no apparent hits.

They are going to need some training form the Walking Dead people who could hit zombies with head shots while doing 35mph hanging off the side of a truck.

 

[Scoresman]

how did hank get a barrel of walt's money to send him a picture of it if the money was still buried?

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I think those guns are up to something.

 

[badmojo1006]

how did hank get a barrel of walt's money to send him a picture of it if the money was still buried?

Photoshop

 

[Limp Ditka]

I'm watching the shootout scene again because I didn't know how no one appeared to be hit.

Upon reviewing I can now see they had ample protection

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5439859456/h3E7D9834/

Really an awful scene. What a shame.

I just don't get you guys. You ignore stuff like the incredible cinematography (is that the right word for a TV show?), buildup of tension, sharp direction, acting, etc. you focus entirely on whether or not a scene meets your personal conception of how the plot should unfold, and if it doesn't it's "awful". Just a terrible way to evaluate such a brilliant piece of entertainment.

I'm not ignoring anything. If Van Gogh put a flying elephant in the skyline of Starry Night, it's going to take away from the brilliance and would warrant commenting on

 

[FlapJacks]

Assuming Jesse lives, I think at some point, just for spite, Walt will tell Jesse that he watched Jane die...

 

[lombardi]

I'm late to the party, started watching a couple months ago and just caught up. This week was my first live episode. I can't imagine waiting a week between episodes for 5 seasons, the waiting is killing me. So glad I watched in a couple big bursts.

Anyway... The Heisenberg on the wall bugs me. Who would spray paint that? Possibly Marie, but I don't think so. Makes me think it all comes out, Walt goes down and it becomes a huge news story. Vandals break in, like the kids skating out back, and some squatters/kids end up spray painting the walls. It also explains the shocked neighbor, he disappeared and is gone for a year and then shows up in front of his house. Makes me think either Hank lives or Marie goes to the DEA after Hank dies. It all comes out, Walt disappears with Saul's guy while the news story breaks. Comes back a year later after his 53rd birthday.

Also, Walt being alone on that birthday morning makes me wonder about his family. I've always thought Walt was going to get his family killed. I would be shocked if at least Skyler or Walt Jr didn't die in the end. Everything Walt worked for all falling apart and losing what's most important to him.

So in the next episode Gomey dies first, I think that's a given. I thought Hank was going to get the bullet when he was on the phone with Marie but I'm glad he didn't because no way they wouldn't hear some cars out there. So now I'm thinking he might live. Gillian loves to let you think you know what's going to happen and then flip the tables. As soon as he made that call and told Marie he loved her every fan of the show was waiting for a bullet and knew he was dead, maybe he makes it? I don't think so though, I think in classic Mexican standoff fashion almost everyone in the desert dies. Gomey will pick off a few Nazis before he dies and so will Hank no matter what happens to him. Jesse and Walt both make it. Meth Damon and/or his uncle might drive off as the tribal police show up.

The shootout didn't bother me with them not dying right away but one thing did, would a car door stop rounds form the rifles the Nazi right hand man was shooting. Walt is in that car and it's riddled with bullets, would a car door stop them? I don't really care, but I was thinking it.

Finally, biggest unknown to me is who is Walt going to kill on his 53rd? Jesse? Marie? Hank? Nazis? In the end I've always thought it comes down to some of Walt's family dying and Jesse killing Walt in the end. Can't wait.

 

[mad sweeney]

Perhaps a bit of foreshadowing from earlier in the season...when the Nazis go on the killing spree at Decklin's meth lab, you think they get everyone...but after they pull Lydia out of the hole, they realize that one of the guys isn't dead (and then gets taken care of). So perhaps, they are a tad cocky and aren't as detailed as we think

They're not detail oriented because they checked and made sure everyone was dead?

 

[Tiger Fan]

I'm late to the party, started watching a couple months ago and just caught up. This week was my first live episode. I can't imagine waiting a week between episodes for 5 seasons, the waiting is killing me. So glad I watched in a couple big bursts.

Anyway... The Heisenberg on the wall bugs me. Who would spray paint that? Possibly Marie, but I don't think so. Makes me think it all comes out, Walt goes down and it becomes a huge news story. Vandals break in, like the kids skating out back, and some squatters/kids end up spray painting the walls. It also explains the shocked neighbor, he disappeared and is gone for a year and then shows up in front of his house. Makes me think either Hank lives or Marie goes to the DEA after Hank dies. It all comes out, Walt disappears with Saul's guy while the news story breaks. Comes back a year later after his 53rd birthday.

Also, Walt being alone on that birthday morning makes me wonder about his family. I've always thought Walt was going to get his family killed. I would be shocked if at least Skyler or Walt Jr didn't die in the end. Everything Walt worked for all falling apart and losing what's most important to him.

So in the next episode Gomey dies first, I think that's a given. I thought Hank was going to get the bullet when he was on the phone with Marie but I'm glad he didn't because no way they wouldn't hear some cars out there. So now I'm thinking he might live. Gillian loves to let you think you know what's going to happen and then flip the tables. As soon as he made that call and told Marie he loved her every fan of the show was waiting for a bullet and knew he was dead, maybe he makes it? I don't think so though, I think in classic Mexican standoff fashion almost everyone in the desert dies. Gomey will pick off a few Nazis before he dies and so will Hank no matter what happens to him. Jesse and Walt both make it. Meth Damon and/or his uncle might drive off as the tribal police show up.

The shootout didn't bother me with them not dying right away but one thing did, would a car door stop rounds form the rifles the Nazi right hand man was shooting. Walt is in that car and it's riddled with bullets, would a car door stop them? I don't really care, but I was thinking it.

Finally, biggest unknown to me is who is Walt going to kill on his 53rd? Jesse? Marie? Hank? Nazis? In the end I've always thought it comes down to some of Walt's family dying and Jesse killing Walt in the end. Can't wait.

It's probably a bulletproof car given that it's a DEA car?

 

[Tiger Fan]

Perhaps a bit of foreshadowing from earlier in the season...when the Nazis go on the killing spree at Decklin's meth lab, you think they get everyone...but after they pull Lydia out of the hole, they realize that one of the guys isn't dead (and then gets taken care of). So perhaps, they are a tad cocky and aren't as detailed as we think

They're not detail oriented because they checked and made sure everyone was dead?

I meant the first time around. Clearly they thought they killed everyone. The only reason they "caught" the guy still alive, was b/c he was in their walking path (IIRC).

Not saying it's a slam dunk, but it could be something

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

How did Walt know there was a cell phone behind that boulder?

Why were Skylar and Little Walt working on Saturday? Isn't it their sabbath?

How come Hank didn't have Gonzalez make some street tacos out of those brains? Just stupid.

 

[mad sweeney]

Spectacular episode overall, but if one is to pick nits, I thought the shootout scene went on too long for no death/injury.

The shootout wasn't up to the normal standards of this show (granted, this isn't an action show so it's understandable to see them stumble over this kind of scene). Much better would have been to end the episode with Nazis drawing their guns on Hank and Gomez, and then start off the next episode with something quicker and less contrived.

Yeah, I hate to say it, but that shootout might've been a bit of fan service.

I am not sure how the nazis missed. But like I said I think I saw gomey take one in the gut. I was half blitzed last night so I will have to go back and re-watch that scene

I thought I saw blood as well, on the canera angle where he finally took cover behind the truck, but didnt check. Figure if there was, there's plenty of fanboys that'd point it out.

 

[mad sweeney]

how did hank get a barrel of walt's money to send him a picture of it if the money was still buried?

Try watching the show.

 

[Jojo the circus boy]

on next week's breaking bad

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

Also two scientific questions: why is Walt's product blue? Is that just written into the script for the heck of it, or is there actually some kind of formula that he is using which, in real life, would produce a blue product? Anyone know?

Secondly: when the uncle doesn't have a mask on at the start of the episode, how likely is he to get sick? And what would happen if he did- would he die? Pass out?

Bump. Anybody know this stuff?

(1) I have zero idea about the first question.

(2) I noticed the uncle taking his mask off before he should have and immediately thought of the ricin Walt went back for becoming involved down the line in a demonstration cook...

The retrieval, though, is so much later (chronologically speaking) according to the flash-forward, I'm thinking Walt won't be cooking that late in the game, something is going down before then. I like the theory of the ricin being for Lydia or for Uncle Jack. If it's in a cook, I don't think it would be in a Walt demo cook, but could perhaps be put into an entire batch of Todd's cooking to take out the whole group?

 

[mad sweeney]

Perhaps a bit of foreshadowing from earlier in the season...when the Nazis go on the killing spree at Decklin's meth lab, you think they get everyone...but after they pull Lydia out of the hole, they realize that one of the guys isn't dead (and then gets taken care of). So perhaps, they are a tad cocky and aren't as detailed as we think

They're not detail oriented because they checked and made sure everyone was dead?

I meant the first time around. Clearly they thought they killed everyone. The only reason they "caught" the guy still alive, was b/c he was in their walking path (IIRC).

Not saying it's a slam dunk, but it could be something

Thinner than dental floss.

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

We're going to see the likely very brutal conclusion to that gunfight in the first 3 minutes next week. You guys should really just stop nitpicking and enjoy the ride.

I'm teasing on my end with regards to the shootout.

I love the show and am always willing to suspend belief and I do think next few minutes of the show will show several people on both side down BUT there were probably 100 shots fired at fairly close with all guns drawn and aimed for about 1 min with no apparent hits.

They are going to need some training form the Walking Dead people who could hit zombies with head shots while doing 35mph hanging off the side of a truck.

That was my only "complaint" with this episode, as well. No way someone wouldn't have at least taken a shotgun pellet to an extremity with all that lead flying around. Still an another awesome episode, and can't wait for next week.

 

[jwb]

how did hank get a barrel of walt's money to send him a picture of it if the money was still buried?

He was given the details (even the color and where the barrels were bought). Pretty easy to replicate.

 

[pantherclub]

we dont know for sure that hank or gomey didnt get hit

 

[Psychopav]

how did hank get a barrel of walt's money to send him a picture of it if the money was still buried?

He was given the details (even the color and where the barrels were bought). Pretty easy to replicate.

Perhaps. But then explain where he got ahold of a 3D printer.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I didnt read the last couple pages--Anyone think that Jesse lives through this, dies while Walt is away and thats what brings Walt back from hiding to kill the people who killed Jesse?

 

[Nathan R. Jessep]

we dont know for sure that hank or gomey didnt get hit

true, but no reason to not make it obvious if someone DID get hit (other than to generate message board fodder)

 

[Ghost Rider]

I didnt read the last couple pages--Anyone think that Jesse lives through this, dies while Walt is away and thats what brings Walt back from hiding to kill the people who killed Jesse?

No.

 

[comfortably numb]

we dont know for sure that hank or gomey didnt get hit

We don't.

And they could have been wearing vests, which could explain the lack of DEATH

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

I don't see the Walt saves Jessie or Walt wants to avenge Jessie's death stuff. Walt had a hit set up for him before he knew Jessie was working with Hank. He has to want him dead even more now.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I think that in the shootout the SUV's gas tank is hit and there is a huge explosion. The blast is so big it causes all of Walt's buried money to burn up.

BUT it turns out that Walt's longitude/latitude Lotto ticket is a winner. Walt uses the $10M lotto prize to go into hiding.

Spoiler

And that's where Malcolm in the Middle starts

 

[mad sweeney]

I think that in the shootout the SUV's gas tank is hit and there is a huge explosion. The blast is so big it causes all of Walt's buried money to burn up.

BUT it turns out that Walt's longitude/latitude Lotto ticket is a winner. Walt uses the $10M lotto prize to go into hiding.

Spoiler

And that's where Malcolm in the Middle starts

That's not quite a slam dunk, but it might be something.

 

[Sabertooth]

Good tv. Not sure what people get out of coming into this thread and pissing all over it.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I don't see the Walt saves Jessie or Walt wants to avenge Jessie's death stuff. Walt had a hit set up for him before he knew Jessie was working with Hank. He has to want him dead even more now.

Yeah but he didn't want Hank or anyone hurt. I think that's when it's going to change.

 

[doowain]

Good tv. Not sure what people get out of coming into this thread and pissing all over it.

Everyone thinks they are Roger Ebert and Richard Pryor's love child.

 

[Scoresman]

if you apply hawkum's razor to the flash forward, the only reason walt would need firepower like that would be to go up against the Nazi crew. they're the only ones so far to show that walt would need firepower like that. my guess is they end up taking jesse or his family hostage until he comes and cooks for them.

although I think the gun is a last resort and he's gonna use the ricin on the cook.

 

[TheIronSheik]

if you apply hawkum's razor to the flash forward, the only reason walt would need firepower like that would be to go up against the Nazi crew. they're the only ones so far to show that walt would need firepower like that. my guess is they end up taking jesse or his family hostage until he comes and cooks for them.

although I think the gun is a last resort and he's gonna use the ricin on the cook.

 

[timschochet]

if you apply hawkum's razor to the flash forward, the only reason walt would need firepower like that would be to go up against the Nazi crew. they're the only ones so far to show that walt would need firepower like that. my guess is they end up taking jesse or his family hostage until he comes and cooks for them.

although I think the gun is a last resort and he's gonna use the ricin on the cook.

It's Occam's Razor.

 

[Abraham]

The overwhelming firepower of the nazis would justify the machine gun. I have noticed that they have taken great care to show the nazis have lots of weapons, like filing the shot inside their gun cabinet.

It's also worth noting that regardless of who does in the shoot out, Walt's house ends up seized by the government so at some point he's getting arrested.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

if you apply hawkum's razor to the flash forward, the only reason walt would need firepower like that would be to go up against the Nazi crew. they're the only ones so far to show that walt would need firepower like that. my guess is they end up taking jesse or his family hostage until he comes and cooks for them.

although I think the gun is a last resort and he's gonna use the ricin on the cook.

It's Occam's Razor.

Thinking that was deliberate

 

[Ghost Rider]

It's also worth noting that regardless of who does in the shoot out, Walt's house ends up seized by the government so at some point he's getting arrested.

Good point, one that cannot be overlooked. It is not like the house was just abandoned; it was blocked off, so yeah, him getting arrested seems like a foregone conclusion. Or at least being exposed as Heisenberg. Even if he takes off, I assume the government could still seize the property, even if they do not have him in custody, correct?