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Breaking Bad on AMC (2 Viewers)

Raider Nation said:
SlimShady said:
Peyton Marino said:
Jesse is in jail awaiting trial right now IMO.
probably od'd next to Janes grave
Speaking of Jane, Holy CRAP is Krysten Ritter gorgeous. :wub: Saw her on Talking Bad last night.

I had no idea. That hairstyle they gave her on the show (think Mia from Pulp Fiction) didn't do her any favors.
I luh her....so hot but a little afraid of what she'd do to the Major :pickle:

 
How many staff members got purged?
Me, yudkin, levin I think. Some others.
Couldn't afford you guys any longer? What was the point of doing that?
Can't speak for the other guys, and I hold David, joe and the rest of the team in high regard. Always were on the up and up and treated me very very fair. David told me they wanted to roll with a smaller staff that was more focused on football. I did a lot of uncredited football work (gAme recaps, camp reports) but had all but dropped out of spotlights and only submitted about five or six strategy articles each year. I felt me main contribution was moderating the FFA which was not paid but I was glad to do because I really like this "place" and felt like I had a good feel of how it should be done. They wanted to to a different direction. Fair enough.

 
For the fingerprint nuts, where in the several acre, numerous building compound would they dust for prints and why?

I could see doing the murder weapons, but beyond that it seems like fishing for a needle in a haystack. No way they waste resources like that

 
IvanKaramazov said:
I can even tolerate the laser pointers on Gretchen and Elliott now that I've talked myself into the idea that this is Heisenberg's last stand.
Just watched that scene again. Seems a lot of people :rolleyes: over it, but I thought it was great. So tense.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
TheIronSheik said:
Ghost Rider said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.
:wall:

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack. :lol:
Not to mention that while they were meticulously clean when cooking, I don't think they were wiping down fingerprints. I could be wrong if they stated that. But I think being clean was more about making meth correctly. Not about covering their butts in case anyone ever located the cook house.
I don't know, but I didn't notice any prints on the shiny vat that Walt was leaning on.
Again, they cleaned the equipment to make the meth. I don't think they ever showed them wiping down the tables, or the old coffee machine, or anything else after each time they left. They cleaned it like they cleaned up after a job. Kitchen staff at a restaurant clean up at the end of the night, but I'm guessing there are fingerprints that can be found.
I think once they get a load of the Pit of Dispair where they kept Jessie on his little flea infested blanket full of his DNA and with his little piss bucket, and after they see his leash in the meth lab that Woz would be able to convince the authorities that Jessie was not acting volitionally in the cooks. I think the extreme duress of his situation would easily get him off on the killing of Todd, even if Jessie confessed it and there were video. No, Jessie's only real exposure would be for crimes much further in the past.

 
And how are the "hit men" supposed to know when Gretchen and Elliott deliver the money to Junior?
Or, more to the point, why would the they care? They've already been paid and Walt's dead. Why bother killing Gretchen and Elliott?
criminal reputation

if it's known in crime circles that they were hired to do a job that they didn't do, they might find it harder to get more "work."

Is Elliot the type to really take that chance?

 
And how are the "hit men" supposed to know when Gretchen and Elliott deliver the money to Junior?
Or, more to the point, why would the they care? They've already been paid and Walt's dead. Why bother killing Gretchen and Elliott?
criminal reputation

if it's known in crime circles that they were hired to do a job that they didn't do, they might find it harder to get more "work."

Is Elliot the type to really take that chance?
I doubt there's a tremendous amount of honor and personal integrity among hitmen.

And why do you think Elliott would be unwilling to chance the hitman thing but would be willing to chance laundering $9 million in drug money? Is he risk-averse or not?

 
TheIronSheik said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
TheIronSheik said:
Ghost Rider said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
If Jesse ended up as meticulous as Walt with the lab, there were no prints there as it was wiped clean after every cook. They aren't pulling prints off of the chains or a key. DNA maybe, but it's not like there is a DNA database that Jesse is in. He was already considered a person of interest and on the run though according to the articles. He has no money as he threw it all over town. Maybe he had some at home stashed still, after all he was living off of SOMEthing before Walt dropped off the $5M. Jesse went home, got whatever he had and left ABQ. To do what and where, no idea.
:wall:

For the 19th time...Jesse was pulled out of the lab before finishing the cook (so Walt could see he wasn't their partner). I doubt Todd let him wipe for prints before bringing him to Jack. :lol:
Not to mention that while they were meticulously clean when cooking, I don't think they were wiping down fingerprints. I could be wrong if they stated that. But I think being clean was more about making meth correctly. Not about covering their butts in case anyone ever located the cook house.
I don't know, but I didn't notice any prints on the shiny vat that Walt was leaning on.
Again, they cleaned the equipment to make the meth. I don't think they ever showed them wiping down the tables, or the old coffee machine, or anything else after each time they left. They cleaned it like they cleaned up after a job. Kitchen staff at a restaurant clean up at the end of the night, but I'm guessing there are fingerprints that can be found.
I think once they get a load of the Pit of Dispair where they kept Jessie on his little flea infested blanket full of his DNA and with his little piss bucket, and after they see his leash in the meth lab that Woz would be able to convince the authorities that Jessie was not acting volitionally in the cooks. I think the extreme duress of his situation would easily get him off on the killing of Todd, even if Jessie confessed it and there were video. No, Jessie's only real exposure would be for crimes much further in the past.
I'd wonder how the police would even begin to piece together the whole compound...They'd see the pit, and the first reaction might be to think they kept an animal in there. The leash in the lab might not make sense...

a bunch of bodies in the clubhouse, so that gets a detailed going over.

Everything else just seems like ancilliary to that

 
And how are the "hit men" supposed to know when Gretchen and Elliott deliver the money to Junior?
Or, more to the point, why would the they care? They've already been paid and Walt's dead. Why bother killing Gretchen and Elliott?
criminal reputation

if it's known in crime circles that they were hired to do a job that they didn't do, they might find it harder to get more "work."

Is Elliot the type to really take that chance?
I doubt there's a tremendous amount of honor and personal integrity among hitmen.

And why do you think Elliott would be unwilling to chance the hitman thing but would be willing to chance laundering $9 million in drug money? Is he risk-averse or not?
"laundering" the money risks less than risking death

"laundering" the money is highly improbable of being caught

They just know that Walt's a drug lord who killed Fring, two DEA agents as they arrested him and 12 guys in prison within two minutes. Who knows what gang ties and loyalties he has? The blue meth is still out there, so there is still an operation intact that some (many?) believe is still being done by Heisenberg.

He's Don Corleone to them. If Don Corleone says, even if I die and and you don't follow through, these guys I hired will kill you, don't you think they might suspect there's a decent chance that is so

 
And how are the "hit men" supposed to know when Gretchen and Elliott deliver the money to Junior?
Or, more to the point, why would the they care? They've already been paid and Walt's dead. Why bother killing Gretchen and Elliott?
criminal reputation

if it's known in crime circles that they were hired to do a job that they didn't do, they might find it harder to get more "work."

Is Elliot the type to really take that chance?
I doubt there's a tremendous amount of honor and personal integrity among hitmen.

And why do you think Elliott would be unwilling to chance the hitman thing but would be willing to chance laundering $9 million in drug money? Is he risk-averse or not?
"laundering" the money risks less than risking death

"laundering" the money is highly improbable of being caught

They just know that Walt's a drug lord who killed Fring, two DEA agents as they arrested him and 12 guys in prison within two minutes. Who knows what gang ties and loyalties he has? The blue meth is still out there, so there is still an operation intact that some (many?) believe is still being done by Heisenberg.

He's Don Corleone to them. If Don Corleone says, even if I die and and you don't follow through, these guys I hired will kill you, don't you think they might suspect there's a decent chance that is so
Look, I've made my peace with this scene. I'm choosing to look at it as Walt's one last-ditch attempt to provide for his family. It has almost no chance of success and Walt surely knows that, but he might as well try.

Don't spoil it for me by trying to make it sound fool-proof.

 
Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.

 
And how are the "hit men" supposed to know when Gretchen and Elliott deliver the money to Junior?
Or, more to the point, why would the they care? They've already been paid and Walt's dead. Why bother killing Gretchen and Elliott?
criminal reputation

if it's known in crime circles that they were hired to do a job that they didn't do, they might find it harder to get more "work."

Is Elliot the type to really take that chance?
I doubt there's a tremendous amount of honor and personal integrity among hitmen.

And why do you think Elliott would be unwilling to chance the hitman thing but would be willing to chance laundering $9 million in drug money? Is he risk-averse or not?
The biggest drug lord, who's wanted for murdering 2 DEA agents just ended up in your living room, told you to do someting, lasers ended up on your chest and then an ugly picture was painted.

I believe Maurlie stated how they could easily give the money to Jr a page or two ago....no way a billionaire chances that. Ever. It's pocket change to him even if Walt didnt already give him the money.

 
IvanKaramazov said:
Now that I've re-watched the finale, I'm closer to the camp that thinks that it's nearly perfect. Personally, I would have preferred that they go into more depth on particular characters and just drop some of the others (Lydia, the Schwartzes, hell even Todd if necessary). But watching it now knowing that Gilligan was seriously determined to "resolve" every single remaining significant character, the whole thing clicks together really well. I still love the ricin part, and the scenes with Skyler and Jesse are great. Walt lucked out with regards to the Nazis -- by all rights he should have been killed unceremoniously -- but he's always been lucky with his adversaries so that's completely fine. I can even tolerate the laser pointers on Gretchen and Elliott now that I've talked myself into the idea that this is Heisenberg's last stand.

There's still a lot of highly improbable stuff here, but finales get more suspension of disbelief than usual, and I think they nailed it. The epic moments, like the wall between Walt and Skyler, the way Walt explores the Schwartzes home thinking about how this could have been his life, the nod between Walt and Jesse, and the last scenes with Flynn and Holly more than make up for the stretches. And I still think Jesse's ending was pitch-perfect.
:goodposting: :goodposting:

Watched the entire series over the past 2 months. Easily top 3 on my best TV shows of all time.

 
Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.
Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?

Edit: Also, to address the "but it's pocket change to a billionaire" point, that doesn't matter. Billionaires generally don't like going to prison, and they also don't like having all their assets seized.

 
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Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.
:lmao: seriously.

"Why would they be worried, everybody knows the hitmen won't do it. I mean, why would they?"

:lmao:

 
Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.
Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?
They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.
Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.

 
Elliot and Gretchen are not part of the criminal underworld weighing the risk or integrity of hitmen. They are likely scared to death and want no part of tempting fate.
Laundering drug money = not tempting fate?
They could light that money on fire. It has been established that 10M is nothing to these people. They'll just write a check and be done with it.
Then the hit men would have to kill them. Walt specifically told them not to give Flynn a dime of their own money.
What? How would anybody know how they processed the money. If they write the check for the exact amount he gave they're fine.

They're not going to show up with THAT money in a briefcase for Flynn.

 

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