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Gilligan stated that they weren't sure who the Ricin was for? I doubt that. I mean was there even a scene with Lydia where she didn't mention tea? Or did the tea thing come later?
Let's say for the sake of argument that there was some episode earlier in the franchise in which Lydia drank tea. That wouldn't automatically mean that she had to get ricin poisoning. Lots of people have consumed food and beverages in this program. Given all the speculation/WAGs that people were throwing out there as the final season went along, I think it's fair to say that there was no inevitable ricin target.
She didn't just drink tea though. She drank a specific type of tea with Stevia. Who else in the series had that detailed of a drink order? What was Walt's go to drink? What was Hanks?
Who cares? Again, let's say that Lydia drank chamomile tea with Stevia all the time in earlier episodes. All that shows is that she's neurotic and OCD, which is part of her character.

A huge number of people were speculating that Walt was going to take the ricin himself. I think you're looking back now knowing what you know and thinking that the Lydia-ricin thing was inevitable. It wasn't.
I'm not talking about a huge number of people. I am talking about Vince Gilligan. I am stating that I think he knew the ricin was for Lydia from very early on and that stating otherwise is being disingenuous.

 
I'd like to think that there are two good reasons they showed Lydia dying and Walt telling her about it. One, we got to see a side of Lydia that we hadn't seen before - disheveled, hair down, sickly looking, calling her Nazi sociopath boyfriend because she wasn't feeling well, confused when she didn't recognize the voice - to see how thoroughly he had beaten her.

Walt just dominated everyone in the final episode. He made Gretchen and Elliott uncomfortable in their own home, and extorting their assistance but not their money. He said I didn't do what you wanted, so I didn't get all of your money, but I never needed your money, and I can make you do what I want.

He thought (at the time) that he had ordered Jesse killed, but then he went to Jesse's best friends and made them help him, then when they said, I don't feel too good about what we just did, he gave them an, OK, here's ten grand. Now how do you feel?

And with the Nazis, he didn't hunt them down with a sniper rifle, or hire someone to kill them, or blow them up. He walked right in there and met with them, followed them killed them with him in the room.

Which goes along with my second point - Walt wants to take credit for his work. It's the quite literally fatal flaw in his character, from the time that he couldn't kill the kid in season one without having a beer with him first, to him convincing Hank that Gail wasn't the real Heisenberg and seemed like a copying hack, to him telling Jesse about Jane. He had to talk to her to tell her that she didn't just have the flu, he had killed her and there was nothing she could do about it. Answering the phone when Lydia called closed the loop on both of those, while also giving us a much needed break from the realization that the show was ending, the Nazis had just died, Jesse had just killed Todd, Walt was wounded, and possibly mortally, Jesse had refused to kill Walt, but made him say that that's what he wanted - just so much stuff to deal with, and then here's his chance to deliver one last crushing blow to an enemy. Perfect.
Another fatal flaw of his character was cancer.

 
Gilligan stated that they weren't sure who the Ricin was for? I doubt that. I mean was there even a scene with Lydia where she didn't mention tea? Or did the tea thing come later?
Let's say for the sake of argument that there was some episode earlier in the franchise in which Lydia drank tea. That wouldn't automatically mean that she had to get ricin poisoning. Lots of people have consumed food and beverages in this program. Given all the speculation/WAGs that people were throwing out there as the final season went along, I think it's fair to say that there was no inevitable ricin target.
She didn't just drink tea though. She drank a specific type of tea with Stevia. Who else in the series had that detailed of a drink order? What was Walt's go to drink? What was Hanks?
Who cares? Again, let's say that Lydia drank chamomile tea with Stevia all the time in earlier episodes. All that shows is that she's neurotic and OCD, which is part of her character.

A huge number of people were speculating that Walt was going to take the ricin himself. I think you're looking back now knowing what you know and thinking that the Lydia-ricin thing was inevitable. It wasn't.
And even more people said how dumb those people were suggesting Walt would ingest it himself on purpose.
Well, **** you too.

 
Gilligan stated that they weren't sure who the Ricin was for? I doubt that. I mean was there even a scene with Lydia where she didn't mention tea? Or did the tea thing come later?
Let's say for the sake of argument that there was some episode earlier in the franchise in which Lydia drank tea. That wouldn't automatically mean that she had to get ricin poisoning. Lots of people have consumed food and beverages in this program. Given all the speculation/WAGs that people were throwing out there as the final season went along, I think it's fair to say that there was no inevitable ricin target.
She didn't just drink tea though. She drank a specific type of tea with Stevia. Who else in the series had that detailed of a drink order? What was Walt's go to drink? What was Hanks?
Who cares? Again, let's say that Lydia drank chamomile tea with Stevia all the time in earlier episodes. All that shows is that she's neurotic and OCD, which is part of her character.

A huge number of people were speculating that Walt was going to take the ricin himself. I think you're looking back now knowing what you know and thinking that the Lydia-ricin thing was inevitable. It wasn't.
I'm not talking about a huge number of people. I am talking about Vince Gilligan. I am stating that I think he knew the ricin was for Lydia from very early on and that stating otherwise is being disingenuous.
:lol:

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.

Mojo posted an interesting link, I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.

Outside of a few hiccups I don't seem to understand why people are worried about what happened after. Walt dies in the middle of the meth lab, case is wrapped up, sure Jesse may be wanted but that's another story for another time.

 
Gilligan stated that they weren't sure who the Ricin was for? I doubt that. I mean was there even a scene with Lydia where she didn't mention tea? Or did the tea thing come later?
Let's say for the sake of argument that there was some episode earlier in the franchise in which Lydia drank tea. That wouldn't automatically mean that she had to get ricin poisoning. Lots of people have consumed food and beverages in this program. Given all the speculation/WAGs that people were throwing out there as the final season went along, I think it's fair to say that there was no inevitable ricin target.
She didn't just drink tea though. She drank a specific type of tea with Stevia. Who else in the series had that detailed of a drink order? What was Walt's go to drink? What was Hanks?
Who cares? Again, let's say that Lydia drank chamomile tea with Stevia all the time in earlier episodes. All that shows is that she's neurotic and OCD, which is part of her character.

A huge number of people were speculating that Walt was going to take the ricin himself. I think you're looking back now knowing what you know and thinking that the Lydia-ricin thing was inevitable. It wasn't.
I'm not talking about a huge number of people. I am talking about Vince Gilligan. I am stating that I think he knew the ricin was for Lydia from very early on and that stating otherwise is being disingenuous.
What would be Gilligan's purpose for lying about this?

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.
The Nazis are not exactly consummate professionals. Remember that these are the guys who, after slaughtering Declan's crew, are sitting around having a leisurely breakfast at Denny's with blood on their clothes and a tank of methylamine hooked up to their pickup in the parking lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they either never got Walt's do-not-come order or if they figured they were already there so they might as well go ahead and scope things out.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.
The Nazis are not exactly consummate professionals. Remember that these are the guys who, after slaughtering Declan's crew, are sitting around having a leisurely breakfast at Denny's with blood on their clothes and a tank of methylamine hooked up to their pickup in the parking lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they either never got Walt's do-not-come order or if they figured they were already there so they might as well go ahead and scope things out.
They heard Walt. But they're not the type of Nazis who are only into following orders. The Nazis show up because they want to. I don't see how this would give anyone much room for pause. When Walt orchestrates the prison hits, he aligns himself with a group that he really can't control. By that time, he sees himself as Heisenberg, and he doesn't fear them the way he used to fear Tuco or Gus. Which is, of course, a colossal error of judgment.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.
Because Walt was a potential cash cow for them, and they wanted to protect their asset. Or at least make sure that Walt didn't get pinched and possibly give them up. There's not much downside to at least driving out there and seeing what's what, right?

I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.
This is because you're mentally ill. Her hands were dirty in terms of the drug business, but she wasn't as morally culpable as Walt for all of the violence that occurred.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.
The Nazis are not exactly consummate professionals. Remember that these are the guys who, after slaughtering Declan's crew, are sitting around having a leisurely breakfast at Denny's with blood on their clothes and a tank of methylamine hooked up to their pickup in the parking lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they either never got Walt's do-not-come order or if they figured they were already there so they might as well go ahead and scope things out.
Good post IK, I can buy that some. I just felt like they ran out of ideas here and said, #### it let them roll up anyways.

I found myself also finding movie references or scenes that reminded me of movies. For example, that scene with the neo-nazis rolling in, reminded me of in NCFOM when the trucks roll up while Llewelyn is bringing water back to the injured man in the truck at the shootout scene. There were several of these where I though either Vince or one of his writers was inspired by a scene they saw in another movie.

I try not to overanalyze a TV show especially but there are a few things here and there in BB where I would have enjoyed a slightly different approach. I'm not picking on the show though, as close to perfection as I have seen and also because they didn't have loads of money for special effects, the show had a real overtone to it I enjoyed. Most of the scenes and even the action scenes feel pretty real. One of the reason us 30 something and 40 somethings like the original Star Wars was the authentic feel of it, Breaking Bad same quality for me.

 
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Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.
Because Walt was a potential cash cow for them, and they wanted to protect their asset. Or at least make sure that Walt didn't get pinched and possibly give them up. There's not much downside to at least driving out there and seeing what's what, right?

I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.
This is because you're mentally ill. Her hands were dirty in terms of the drug business, but she wasn't as morally culpable as Walt for all of the violence that occurred.
This is correct. Walt was going to cook for them one last time and show Todd how to get the 90%+ meth. They weren't going to let anything happen to him.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.

Mojo posted an interesting link, I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.

Outside of a few hiccups I don't seem to understand why people are worried about what happened after. Walt dies in the middle of the meth lab, case is wrapped up, sure Jesse may be wanted but that's another story for another time.
Actually, they said in that episode they didn't come out there to save Walt or kill DEA agents or whatever. They came out there because they knew that's where the money was. They came out there to steal 70 million dollars. Plain and simple.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.
Because Walt was a potential cash cow for them, and they wanted to protect their asset. Or at least make sure that Walt didn't get pinched and possibly give them up. There's not much downside to at least driving out there and seeing what's what, right?

I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.
This is because you're mentally ill. Her hands were dirty in terms of the drug business, but she wasn't as morally culpable as Walt for all of the violence that occurred.

She'd already called for Walt to kill Jesse to protect the family in no uncertain terms. And lets not forget she was responsible for Beneke's broken neck.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.
The Nazis are not exactly consummate professionals. Remember that these are the guys who, after slaughtering Declan's crew, are sitting around having a leisurely breakfast at Denny's with blood on their clothes and a tank of methylamine hooked up to their pickup in the parking lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they either never got Walt's do-not-come order or if they figured they were already there so they might as well go ahead and scope things out.
They heard Walt. But they're not the type of Nazis who are only into following orders. The Nazis show up because they want to. I don't see how this would give anyone much room for pause. When Walt orchestrates the prison hits, he aligns himself with a group that he really can't control. By that time, he sees himself as Heisenberg, and he doesn't fear them the way he used to fear Tuco or Gus. Which is, of course, a colossal error of judgment.
Right. Plus they wanted Walt to cook for them still, so they wanted to complete the job. Plus the coordinates made Jack curious.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.
Because Walt was a potential cash cow for them, and they wanted to protect their asset. Or at least make sure that Walt didn't get pinched and possibly give them up. There's not much downside to at least driving out there and seeing what's what, right?

I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.
This is because you're mentally ill. Her hands were dirty in terms of the drug business, but she wasn't as morally culpable as Walt for all of the violence that occurred.
Did you watch the show?

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.

Mojo posted an interesting link, I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.

Outside of a few hiccups I don't seem to understand why people are worried about what happened after. Walt dies in the middle of the meth lab, case is wrapped up, sure Jesse may be wanted but that's another story for another time.
Actually, they said in that episode they didn't come out there to save Walt or kill DEA agents or whatever. They came out there because they knew that's where the money was. They came out there to steal 70 million dollars. Plain and simple.
I think that hit him after the fact. Jack was coming out to protect his asset in Walt. When Walt offered him 80 million dollars for Hanks life, he put 2 and 2 together.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.

Mojo posted an interesting link, I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.

Outside of a few hiccups I don't seem to understand why people are worried about what happened after. Walt dies in the middle of the meth lab, case is wrapped up, sure Jesse may be wanted but that's another story for another time.
Actually, they said in that episode they didn't come out there to save Walt or kill DEA agents or whatever. They came out there because they knew that's where the money was. They came out there to steal 70 million dollars. Plain and simple.
No they didn't. They didn't know the money existed until Walt tried to buy Hank's life.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.

Mojo posted an interesting link, I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.

Outside of a few hiccups I don't seem to understand why people are worried about what happened after. Walt dies in the middle of the meth lab, case is wrapped up, sure Jesse may be wanted but that's another story for another time.
Actually, they said in that episode they didn't come out there to save Walt or kill DEA agents or whatever. They came out there because they knew that's where the money was. They came out there to steal 70 million dollars. Plain and simple.
I think that hit him after the fact. Jack was coming out to protect his asset in Walt. When Walt offered him 80 million dollars for Hanks life, he put 2 and 2 together.
Agreed, they didn't know the $80M was there when they rolled up. They saw Walt in cuffs in the SUV, 2 DEA agents, suddenly Walt has a DEA agent brother, the neo-nazis were not happy with those revelations.

 
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Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.
The Nazis are not exactly consummate professionals. Remember that these are the guys who, after slaughtering Declan's crew, are sitting around having a leisurely breakfast at Denny's with blood on their clothes and a tank of methylamine hooked up to their pickup in the parking lot. I wouldn't be surprised if they either never got Walt's do-not-come order or if they figured they were already there so they might as well go ahead and scope things out.
They heard Walt. But they're not the type of Nazis who are only into following orders. The Nazis show up because they want to. I don't see how this would give anyone much room for pause. When Walt orchestrates the prison hits, he aligns himself with a group that he really can't control. By that time, he sees himself as Heisenberg, and he doesn't fear them the way he used to fear Tuco or Gus. Which is, of course, a colossal error of judgment.
Right. Plus they wanted Walt to cook for them still, so they wanted to complete the job. Plus the coordinates made Jack curious.
:goodposting:

This is the right answer. They were protecting their "investment." they needed Walt to do one more cook with Todd to fix his errors. Walt offered them triple the price of the prison hits to take care of Jesse and Jack turned him down saying that is a drop in the bucket compared to what was on the line with the meth business.

 
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Did you watch the show?
Tanner or truck, whichever this is, it's just post the opp of whatever MOP puts up. Wish when you put someone on ignore that quotes would still remain covered but whatever.
Either of you guys can edify me if you wish as to what I'm wrong about. There are some things in BB that are implausible, but the Nazi guys ignoring Walt and heading out there anyway isn't really one of them. It's a pretty logical thing to do, really.

And saying you'd cheer a character's suicide, and a character that isn't even in the Top 10 in terms of morally objectionable behavior, speaks for itself.

 
Did you watch the show?
Tanner or truck, whichever this is, it's just post the opp of whatever MOP puts up. Wish when you put someone on ignore that quotes would still remain covered but whatever.
Either of you guys can edify me if you wish as to what I'm wrong about. There are some things in BB that are implausible, but the Nazi guys ignoring Walt and heading out there anyway isn't really one of them. It's a pretty logical thing to do, really.

And saying you'd cheer a character's suicide, and a character that isn't even in the Top 10 in terms of morally objectionable behavior, speaks for itself.
Yea, I loathed Skyler early on, but had a lot of sympathy late. She was nowhere near as responsible for anything as Walt, Saul, Todd, Jesse, Jack, Gus, Tuco, Mike, etc. Her suicide would have been pretty devastatingly sad really. I concur with MOP's insanity.

 
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.
Because Walt was a potential cash cow for them, and they wanted to protect their asset. Or at least make sure that Walt didn't get pinched and possibly give them up. There's not much downside to at least driving out there and seeing what's what, right?

I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.
This is because you're mentally ill. Her hands were dirty in terms of the drug business, but she wasn't as morally culpable as Walt for all of the violence that occurred.
And rather dumb.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
Sheriff66 said:
Did you watch the show?
Tanner or truck, whichever this is, it's just post the opp of whatever MOP puts up. Wish when you put someone on ignore that quotes would still remain covered but whatever.
In case you weren't aware, there are plenty of people outside of truck and tanner that think know you're an idiot.

 
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Even though I've watched all 3 seasons, I can't even open that Walking Dead thread

It's like opening a can of Spahetti O's after you've had Steak and lobster

I don't even know know if I'll be watching that one this season....

speaking of spaghetti O's vs Steak, what is AMC thinking pimping Low Winter Sun so hard in the middle of the masterpiece that is Br Ba? It's like parading around a naked Meghan Fox in front of somebody for an hour plus and then saying, now that you're all horned up, here's Rebel Wilson.

 
Even though I've watched all 3 seasons, I can't even open that Walking Dead thread

It's like opening a can of Spahetti O's after you've had Steak and lobster

I don't even know know if I'll be watching that one this season....

speaking of spaghetti O's vs Steak, what is AMC thinking pimping Low Winter Sun so hard in the middle of the masterpiece that is Br Ba? It's like parading around a naked Meghan Fox in front of somebody for an hour plus and then saying, now that you're all horned up, here's Rebel Wilson.
It would be smarter for them to promote LWS at 3AM during a CSI rerun?

 
Even though I've watched all 3 seasons, I can't even open that Walking Dead thread

It's like opening a can of Spahetti O's after you've had Steak and lobster

I don't even know know if I'll be watching that one this season....

speaking of spaghetti O's vs Steak, what is AMC thinking pimping Low Winter Sun so hard in the middle of the masterpiece that is Br Ba? It's like parading around a naked Meghan Fox in front of somebody for an hour plus and then saying, now that you're all horned up, here's Rebel Wilson.
I don't know what LWS' ratings are, but they've got to try. It's a logical place to promote it, even though LWS stinks.

 
Even though I've watched all 3 seasons, I can't even open that Walking Dead thread

It's like opening a can of Spahetti O's after you've had Steak and lobster

I don't even know know if I'll be watching that one this season....

speaking of spaghetti O's vs Steak, what is AMC thinking pimping Low Winter Sun so hard in the middle of the masterpiece that is Br Ba? It's like parading around a naked Meghan Fox in front of somebody for an hour plus and then saying, now that you're all horned up, here's Rebel Wilson.
I don't know what LWS' ratings are, but they've got to try. It's a logical place to promote it, even though LWS stinks.
Of course.

Great marketing on their end.

If it was a decent show, would get a HUGE ratings bump.

Just couldn't get me to hang on...but due to BB, they did get me to try

 
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Even though I've watched all 3 seasons, I can't even open that Walking Dead thread

It's like opening a can of Spahetti O's after you've had Steak and lobster

I don't even know know if I'll be watching that one this season....

speaking of spaghetti O's vs Steak, what is AMC thinking pimping Low Winter Sun so hard in the middle of the masterpiece that is Br Ba? It's like parading around a naked Meghan Fox in front of somebody for an hour plus and then saying, now that you're all horned up, here's Rebel Wilson.
I don't know what LWS' ratings are, but they've got to try. It's a logical place to promote it, even though LWS stinks.
part of it is how obnoxiously they' ve done it...

 
Br Ba 10.2 Mil

Ta Ba 4.4 Mil

LWS .87 mil

oof
Wow, would have never guessed that bad.
wonder if that's the norm, or if LWS numbers are usually a little better

Reasoning

1 - TaBa usually doesn't bridge BrBa and LWS. BrBa goes right into LWS, which could likely do a better job of keeping viewers.

2- Plenty of viewers probably not looking to jump right into something else after that final episode of BrBa

 
Br Ba 10.2 Mil

Ta Ba 4.4 Mil

LWS .87 mil

oof
Wow, would have never guessed that bad.
wonder if that's the norm, or if LWS numbers are usually a little better

Reasoning

1 - TaBa usually doesn't bridge BrBa and LWS. BrBa goes right into LWS, which could likely do a better job of keeping viewers.

2- Plenty of viewers probably not looking to jump right into something else after that final episode of BrBa
Or if LWS's numbers were actually higher that night because of BB.

 
Br Ba 10.2 Mil

Ta Ba 4.4 Mil

LWS .87 mil

oof
Wow, would have never guessed that bad.
wonder if that's the norm, or if LWS numbers are usually a little better

Reasoning

1 - TaBa usually doesn't bridge BrBa and LWS. BrBa goes right into LWS, which could likely do a better job of keeping viewers.

2- Plenty of viewers probably not looking to jump right into something else after that final episode of BrBa
Or if LWS's numbers were actually higher that night because of BB.
I don't feel inclined to look that up

i know that I do consider LWS to be better than The Killing and TWD.

Rubicon was a really good show that AMC killed with an obnoxious marketing scheme (and to be fair, the first 4 eps of R were not so good). The showrunner for Rubicon just posthumously won an Emmy for an ep of Homeland over BrBa.

 
Sabertooth said:
Gilligan stated that they weren't sure who the Ricin was for? I doubt that. I mean was there even a scene with Lydia where she didn't mention tea? Or did the tea thing come later?
they also said they didn't know who the gun was going to be for when they put the flash forward into the beginning of s5e1. Uncle Jack hadn't even been thought of yet.

 
Br Ba 10.2 Mil

Ta Ba 4.4 Mil

LWS .87 mil

oof
Wow, would have never guessed that bad.
wonder if that's the norm, or if LWS numbers are usually a little better

Reasoning

1 - TaBa usually doesn't bridge BrBa and LWS. BrBa goes right into LWS, which could likely do a better job of keeping viewers.

2- Plenty of viewers probably not looking to jump right into something else after that final episode of BrBa
Or if LWS's numbers were actually higher that night because of BB.
I don't feel inclined to look that up

i know that I do consider LWS to be better than The Killing and TWD.

Rubicon was a really good show that AMC killed with an obnoxious marketing scheme (and to be fair, the first 4 eps of R were not so good). The showrunner for Rubicon just posthumously won an Emmy for an ep of Homeland over BrBa.
Really?

The Killing started out great IMO, and I like Walking Dead a lot.

Not on Amazing top 5 ever a lot, but LWS just didn't seem to have the same in it.

I admit 1 ep is not giving it enough justice.

For all we know it can go on to become great.

 
Br Ba 10.2 Mil

Ta Ba 4.4 Mil

LWS .87 mil

oof
Wow, would have never guessed that bad.
wonder if that's the norm, or if LWS numbers are usually a little better

Reasoning

1 - TaBa usually doesn't bridge BrBa and LWS. BrBa goes right into LWS, which could likely do a better job of keeping viewers.

2- Plenty of viewers probably not looking to jump right into something else after that final episode of BrBa
Or if LWS's numbers were actually higher that night because of BB.
I don't feel inclined to look that up

i know that I do consider LWS to be better than The Killing and TWD.

Rubicon was a really good show that AMC killed with an obnoxious marketing scheme (and to be fair, the first 4 eps of R were not so good). The showrunner for Rubicon just posthumously won an Emmy for an ep of Homeland over BrBa.
Really?

The Killing started out great IMO, and I like Walking Dead a lot.

Not on Amazing top 5 ever a lot, but LWS just didn't seem to have the same in it.

I admit 1 ep is not giving it enough justice.

For all we know it can go on to become great.
I waiver on TWD, because I consider TWD, HOW and LWS in the same tier wich is a few tiers below BrBa MaMn etc

The Killing had some good elements, but the writing was just awful. I skipped s3, maybe they fixed it , but just a roidiculous show.

 
TheIronSheik said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Desert scene and the coordinates:

Does anyone else have a problem with Walt calling off Todd? He has paid them all handsomely in the past. Why when he tells them to back off and not come, they head out there anyways? I really hated that part of the story. I knwo they had to show up in order to finish the season/series but it seemed cheap how they were written into that scene, doesn't seem real that they would just show up.

Also, $70M and all they bought in a year was a massage chair? They should have had a lot more toys.

Mojo posted an interesting link, I would have cheered if Sky had killed herself. She was as dirty as Walt once the table was set.

Outside of a few hiccups I don't seem to understand why people are worried about what happened after. Walt dies in the middle of the meth lab, case is wrapped up, sure Jesse may be wanted but that's another story for another time.
Actually, they said in that episode they didn't come out there to save Walt or kill DEA agents or whatever. They came out there because they knew that's where the money was. They came out there to steal 70 million dollars. Plain and simple.
Yep they knew if he had coordinates to the location, there was a reason

 
Sabertooth said:
Gilligan stated that they weren't sure who the Ricin was for? I doubt that. I mean was there even a scene with Lydia where she didn't mention tea? Or did the tea thing come later?
they also said they didn't know who the gun was going to be for when they put the flash forward into the beginning of s5e1. Uncle Jack hadn't even been thought of yet.
I don't believe that for a second. I think Gilligan is just trying to be modest instead of coming off like, "Oh, we are so smart; we had it all mapped out perfectly." He doesn't need to say it.

So, where do we think the Nazis hid the 65 or so million dollars?
Probably somewhere in their compound. And it will likely be found once the feds search every foot of it once words gets out about the meth lab and a dead Walter White being found there.

 
Br Ba 10.2 Mil

Ta Ba 4.4 Mil

LWS .87 mil

oof
Wow, would have never guessed that bad.
wonder if that's the norm, or if LWS numbers are usually a little better

Reasoning

1 - TaBa usually doesn't bridge BrBa and LWS. BrBa goes right into LWS, which could likely do a better job of keeping viewers.

2- Plenty of viewers probably not looking to jump right into something else after that final episode of BrBa
Or if LWS's numbers were actually higher that night because of BB.
I don't feel inclined to look that up

i know that I do consider LWS to be better than The Killing and TWD.

Rubicon was a really good show that AMC killed with an obnoxious marketing scheme (and to be fair, the first 4 eps of R were not so good). The showrunner for Rubicon just posthumously won an Emmy for an ep of Homeland over BrBa.
Really?

The Killing started out great IMO, and I like Walking Dead a lot.

Not on Amazing top 5 ever a lot, but LWS just didn't seem to have the same in it.

I admit 1 ep is not giving it enough justice.

For all we know it can go on to become great.
I waiver on TWD, because I consider TWD, HOW and LWS in the same tier wich is a few tiers below BrBa MaMn etc

The Killing had some good elements, but the writing was just awful. I skipped s3, maybe they fixed it , but just a roidiculous show.
Give Game of Thrones a try - very good.

 

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