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Breaking News - Terrell Owens Rushed to local hospital (1 Viewer)
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Jessica Alba
Footballguy
he can play sunday? 
Umm......finger?
Umm......finger?
Cajun Heat
Footballguy
His publicist flatly denied telling police that TO was depressed, which is part of police record. In the high point of the press conference, she added that TO had 25 million reasons not to be depressed. Perfectly classy way of wrapping this up...
GreedoShotFirst
Footballguy
how much are we talking??
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
Geez, what a circus. The only thing missing from that interview was Shannon Sharpe putting his arm around him and saying "Leave the man alone. This is the best player in football."
I know we're supposed to swallow everything we just heard in that news conference, but take a moment to consider just how many holes there are in Owens' and his publicist's story. And take a moment to consider that IF he did try to kill himself last night, he is not likely now to get proper treatment for it. I honestly am concerned for the man -- his handlers may be sweeping something under the table rather than reaching out to get the man the help he needs.
I hope I'm wrong...
I hope I'm wrong...
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
OK...I believe him.Call it spin if you like, but it sounds reasonable enough to me. As a ff/emt, I go on medical calls all the time. We have to inventory patient's Rx's. On even a normal call this is often a challenge. The scenes are often crowded and noisy, and some people, such as TO, often have unusual systems for storage or managing their medications, making them difficult to locate.He's saying he had an negative reaction to drug he was taking in combination with nutritional supplements. He's saying he was suffering an altered mentation which caused him to give an abnormal response. This is not at all uncommon. He's saying he can't remember what he said. It's not at all uncommon for patients we treat to not remember what they said 2 minutes ago, much less last night during their illness and treatment.I've dealt with many patients who've attempted suicide. This man does not present in any way like them. Everything TO's saying is perfectly consistent with what he's claiming.
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Great news. Hopefully it is indeed true.This is kind of what I figured, but you never know until much later, so I just sat back and waited for the truth (or as much of it as possible) to come to light.
fatness
Footballguy
Yeah, it was.Although now that it's over I feel a bit depressed. And groggy.
BlueOnion
Footballguy
It seems Irvin has been polishing up on his excuses for drug consumption. Where were these viable excuses when Irvin was playing?
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scott72
Footballguy
His publicist is full of crap...Yeah the Police lied..Yah right..She made a fool out of herself...The police report is public information, would like to see the press get ahold of that..
M
mojorizin
Guest
I hope Cowboys do the smart thing here and have the guy checked before letting him back on the field. There's certainly enough here to warrant having the man looked at by a professional.
Banger
Footballguy
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
I've treated many patients in similar conditions who wouldn't even be able to understand what I was saying, and if they did, weren't able to speak, or at least speak clearly enough to respond.If you were jacked up on meds, could you tell the difference between:"Mr. Owens, did you take the pills to hurt yourself?"and..."Mr. Owens, did you take the bills because you hurt yourself?"
GreedoShotFirst
Footballguy
I don't remember what I posted on page 15. hmmm.............
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Surprised he didn'tt get the treating doctor to come on and discussthe allergic reaction confirm that he did not have his stomach pumped. Doctors go on camera to discuss players' conditions for the press all of the time.
Here's my guess at what happened:He was incoherent for whatever reason, and Etheredge panicked. From how weak she was during the press conference, I could easily see her being frightened and throwing out a variety of possible explanations while the paramedics were there.
cantrell
Footballguy
ESPN is pissed about all the egg on there face. Someone has to take blame.EDIT: I hope T.O. has a great game at Tennessee.
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joffer
Footballguy
Now John Clayton just claimed that Owens' injuries and now this have kept the selfish Owens from surfacing.
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Corrected.
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
So did we ever find out who the woman 
accomplice was?
accomplice was? 
SKribbles
Footballguy
She definitly lied. No way in hell the police would EVER lie.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I put a big "who cares" on this whole circus. I just hope if TO does have a problem he finds a solution.
Extremely smart move having this at Valley Ranch. Would have been a joke at his condo with too many visions of situps in the driveway.
I think Owens / Rosenhaus handled this well.
J
I think Owens / Rosenhaus handled this well.
J
His publicist.So did we ever find out who the woman
Wreckincrew
Footballguy
Any word on what the Cowboy fans reaction to the press conference is?
Will there be a breakdown of the press conference and, if so, will there be a Cowboy fan poll associated with it?
Will there be a breakdown of the press conference and, if so, will there be a Cowboy fan poll associated with it?
scott72
Footballguy
Not saying the Police never lie, but why would they lie about what she said. What would they get out of that?? Her story is obviously full of holes..
Does TO really need a publicist?His publicist.So did we ever find out who the woman
BlueOnion
Footballguy
It still sounds like somebody called the police in for a possible suicide. However, I find it hard to fathom such a call would be made if a woman who claimed to have seen everything kept rambling on about how he was having an allergic reaction.
redman
Footballguy
You serious? He needs a publicist like the rest of us need to breathe.Does TO really need a publicist?His publicist.So did we ever find out who the woman
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Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Yes. But clearly not this publicist.Does TO really need a publicist?His publicist.So did we ever find out who the woman
Grigs Allmoon
Footballguy
Heck no.I'm not exactly a drug user, but I have been drunk enough to see how something like that could happen. One time when asked repeatedly by an officer for my birthdate I answered "one-fourteen", repeatedly. (So, I am told, and very vaguely remember.)If you were jacked up on meds, could you tell the difference between:"Mr. Owens, did you take the pills to hurt yourself?"and..."Mr. Owens, did you take the bills because you hurt yourself?"
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Can any head-shrinker types clear up whether it's normal for someone that attempted suicide and failed to deny the attempt? I've know some people that tried suicide and none of them tried to hide it at all, but that's obviously a very small sample pool.
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There should be a statue of limitations on her contract.Yes. But clearly not this publicist.Does TO really need a publicist?His publicist.So did we ever find out who the woman
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
What, no Haikus? 
The saga goes on...
It's just another chapter
In T.O.'s fun life
The saga goes on...
It's just another chapter
In T.O.'s fun life
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
He was unresponsive. She couln't have known that is what it was. I'm in the camp that she panicked and babbled. .. probably doesn't even know what she said. Not impressed with her p.r. capabilities.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
I don't suppose they mentioned WHAT he took in combination with what supplements, so that someone could say whether that type of reaction is possible. Nah, that would make too much sense. Not saying they're lying for sure, but I certainly am not going to completely dismiss the thought. Sounds like they're giving just enough information to refute one version of the story without giving enough information to present a refutable alternative.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Normally, people don't attempt suicide because their lives are too public. It makes sense in this case for Owens to hide it.
MelKiperJr
Footballguy
Quick stock tip: Liquidate all your holdings in the Kim Etheridge PR Co. Short it if you can.Yes. But clearly not this publicist.Does TO really need a publicist?His publicist.So did we ever find out who the woman
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Suicide? No way
By Dan Le Batard
Special to ESPN.com
I believe Terrell Owens. No matter how noisy this all gets. No matter how loud the voices of publicists and agents and friends and coaches and psychiatric experts and police officers rise in unison into a tower of babble. No matter how many people come to this conversation with their own baggage and their own version of the truth, which isn't the truth at all. And no matter how contradictory and complicated even the voice of T.O. can be much of the time. I believe Terrell Owens.
I've seen too many things a lot less complicated than this get confused and clouded and misdiagnosed when it comes to the very famous Terrell Owens and the spinning swirl that perpetually surrounds him. So on the subject of whether he really tried to kill himself -- Owens adamantly denies it -- I'm siding with the only guy who was inside his own head at the time, and I'm doing so even if that head was clouded at the time by too much pain medication.
Maybe that makes me very naive. Or maybe it makes me fair. Maybe it makes me a stupid player apologist. Or maybe it makes me non-judgmental about the way I cover sports. Either way, we're all a little clouded when it comes to T.O. and his behavior, so I guess it just took too many pills to make him more like the rest of us.
My first reaction to news of a suicide attempt? I didn't believe it. I'm not talking about disbelief or shock. I literally didn't believe it. I believed it was the pills talking. I believe there was some sort of adverse reaction to the medication that made Owens loopy. I've seen people very close to me become something else, something unrecognizable, when chemcially altered by the wrong medicine. Owens is many things -- complicated, defiant, stubborn, moody -- but he is not a liar. If he tried to kill himself, I believe he'd tell you. He doesn't do spin control. Doesn't even know how, I don't believe. He'd avoid an awful lot of his messes if he did.
For all his muscled and psychological armor, he is oddly open about his shortcomings and scars. He admits to being sensitive and wanting to be liked. He admits he has so much trouble showing affection that he just recently got comfortable with telling his mother he loves her. And he cries when talking about his grandmother, whom he appreciates even though he was shackled to his front yard as a child and only escaped when she passed out from the drinking.
He doesn't much care how things look, or dressing up and camouflaging his weaknesses. It isn't right that Steve Mariucci once flew to Atlanta to talk to him and extended a hand as an olive branch, and Owens merely stared at that hand as if it were covered in leprosy. But Owens tells that story, not proudly, about how stubborn and proud he can be even though he knows those who don't like him will take it as reaffirmation that he is a one-dimensional-stick-figure-cartoon-character and that that one-dimensional-stick-figure-cartoon-character is a complete and total jerk and nothing else.
You saw how convoluted and messy and loud things got when it was just his hamstring. So now we're going to try to climb inside a vastly more hard to understand muscle like his brain? We've seen in a very public way how alcohol can alter a Mel Gibson, so it is possible that Owens had no idea where he was or what he was saying when he allegedly told a paramedic he was trying to harm himself. But everything that happens after that is just more proof of how polarizing he can be, of how he makes us take sides. You can believe him and leave it at that. Or you can call him a liar because it reaffirms your belief of who you already think him to be.
We do this all the time in sports. We grab the stuff that supports our likes and dislikes. If you like Brett Favre and think him a monument, you ignore his selfishness and his former pain-killer addiction and his refusal to tutor Aaron Rodgers and his lack of support for holdout Javon Walker. If you dislike Randy Moss, you hold up as symbolic his crass mooning of the Green Bay crowd as an indictment of everything he is even though it is no more a complete picture than another little thing he does in the end zone when he gives a touchdown football to the kid in a wheelchair.
Facts? There are very few of those. So we'll waddle into the unknown and pick and choose whatever supports our own baggage. It was a sports figure who taught us just how two groups of people could see the same set of facts differently. His name was O.J. Simpson.
Like him or hate him, Owens has always given you his truth. It may be a narcissistic, one-sided, persecuted version of the truth, but it is honestly the way he sees things, like it or not. One of his biggest public relations problems is that he is relentlessly honest and sometimes seems completely unfamiliar with the concept of tact. Graceful on the field, clumsy off it. In this case, it sounds like T.O.'s version of the truth was clouded by a mixture of medications. But who in the world is more qualified to tell you whether or not he was thinking about killing himself than him?
T.O. and I are in our second year doing a weekly radio show together, but I'm not going to pretend to know him. You can't put someone's life together even with the entire scrapbook in your hands, so I'm not going to try when armed with just a couple of snapshots. I'm not an authority on the guy. I don't know him socially. But I will tell you this: The last two weeks, he sounded happier than I've ever heard him.
Last year, I felt like I was interviewing him by prying a crowbar into the side of his mouth. He was clearly unhappy in a way that was overt in Philadelphia, and he didn't hide it, and that made our interviews like head-butting sometimes. He laughed very infrequently. An example: After his first touchdown catch following an offseason of turmoil, I told him I was very disappointed that he didn't give us one of his patented celebrations. I was joking, being sarcastic. His response was defensive, persecuted -- as it often is. He thought I really was disappointed in him and went off on one of his rants -- not entirely unjustified -- about how the media sees only the bad in everything he does.
Last Friday, though, he couldn't have been more affable. Playing. Joking. Making fun of himself. Talking for a full five minutes about how he is looking forward to buying a terribly unmasculine four-pound dog because he doesn't have much use for the more rabid pets of Steelers linebacker Joey Porter that recently killed a miniature horse. He was funny, light, free. It is only a snapshot, a grain of sand at the beach, but he certainly didn't sound much like someone thinking of killing himself.
You are welcome to either snapshot.
The one of him laughing on the radio.
Or the one of him being rushed to the hospital.
But neither one of them really tells you who or where he is.
By Dan Le Batard
Special to ESPN.com
I believe Terrell Owens. No matter how noisy this all gets. No matter how loud the voices of publicists and agents and friends and coaches and psychiatric experts and police officers rise in unison into a tower of babble. No matter how many people come to this conversation with their own baggage and their own version of the truth, which isn't the truth at all. And no matter how contradictory and complicated even the voice of T.O. can be much of the time. I believe Terrell Owens.
I've seen too many things a lot less complicated than this get confused and clouded and misdiagnosed when it comes to the very famous Terrell Owens and the spinning swirl that perpetually surrounds him. So on the subject of whether he really tried to kill himself -- Owens adamantly denies it -- I'm siding with the only guy who was inside his own head at the time, and I'm doing so even if that head was clouded at the time by too much pain medication.
Maybe that makes me very naive. Or maybe it makes me fair. Maybe it makes me a stupid player apologist. Or maybe it makes me non-judgmental about the way I cover sports. Either way, we're all a little clouded when it comes to T.O. and his behavior, so I guess it just took too many pills to make him more like the rest of us.
My first reaction to news of a suicide attempt? I didn't believe it. I'm not talking about disbelief or shock. I literally didn't believe it. I believed it was the pills talking. I believe there was some sort of adverse reaction to the medication that made Owens loopy. I've seen people very close to me become something else, something unrecognizable, when chemcially altered by the wrong medicine. Owens is many things -- complicated, defiant, stubborn, moody -- but he is not a liar. If he tried to kill himself, I believe he'd tell you. He doesn't do spin control. Doesn't even know how, I don't believe. He'd avoid an awful lot of his messes if he did.
For all his muscled and psychological armor, he is oddly open about his shortcomings and scars. He admits to being sensitive and wanting to be liked. He admits he has so much trouble showing affection that he just recently got comfortable with telling his mother he loves her. And he cries when talking about his grandmother, whom he appreciates even though he was shackled to his front yard as a child and only escaped when she passed out from the drinking.
He doesn't much care how things look, or dressing up and camouflaging his weaknesses. It isn't right that Steve Mariucci once flew to Atlanta to talk to him and extended a hand as an olive branch, and Owens merely stared at that hand as if it were covered in leprosy. But Owens tells that story, not proudly, about how stubborn and proud he can be even though he knows those who don't like him will take it as reaffirmation that he is a one-dimensional-stick-figure-cartoon-character and that that one-dimensional-stick-figure-cartoon-character is a complete and total jerk and nothing else.
You saw how convoluted and messy and loud things got when it was just his hamstring. So now we're going to try to climb inside a vastly more hard to understand muscle like his brain? We've seen in a very public way how alcohol can alter a Mel Gibson, so it is possible that Owens had no idea where he was or what he was saying when he allegedly told a paramedic he was trying to harm himself. But everything that happens after that is just more proof of how polarizing he can be, of how he makes us take sides. You can believe him and leave it at that. Or you can call him a liar because it reaffirms your belief of who you already think him to be.
We do this all the time in sports. We grab the stuff that supports our likes and dislikes. If you like Brett Favre and think him a monument, you ignore his selfishness and his former pain-killer addiction and his refusal to tutor Aaron Rodgers and his lack of support for holdout Javon Walker. If you dislike Randy Moss, you hold up as symbolic his crass mooning of the Green Bay crowd as an indictment of everything he is even though it is no more a complete picture than another little thing he does in the end zone when he gives a touchdown football to the kid in a wheelchair.
Facts? There are very few of those. So we'll waddle into the unknown and pick and choose whatever supports our own baggage. It was a sports figure who taught us just how two groups of people could see the same set of facts differently. His name was O.J. Simpson.
Like him or hate him, Owens has always given you his truth. It may be a narcissistic, one-sided, persecuted version of the truth, but it is honestly the way he sees things, like it or not. One of his biggest public relations problems is that he is relentlessly honest and sometimes seems completely unfamiliar with the concept of tact. Graceful on the field, clumsy off it. In this case, it sounds like T.O.'s version of the truth was clouded by a mixture of medications. But who in the world is more qualified to tell you whether or not he was thinking about killing himself than him?
T.O. and I are in our second year doing a weekly radio show together, but I'm not going to pretend to know him. You can't put someone's life together even with the entire scrapbook in your hands, so I'm not going to try when armed with just a couple of snapshots. I'm not an authority on the guy. I don't know him socially. But I will tell you this: The last two weeks, he sounded happier than I've ever heard him.
Last year, I felt like I was interviewing him by prying a crowbar into the side of his mouth. He was clearly unhappy in a way that was overt in Philadelphia, and he didn't hide it, and that made our interviews like head-butting sometimes. He laughed very infrequently. An example: After his first touchdown catch following an offseason of turmoil, I told him I was very disappointed that he didn't give us one of his patented celebrations. I was joking, being sarcastic. His response was defensive, persecuted -- as it often is. He thought I really was disappointed in him and went off on one of his rants -- not entirely unjustified -- about how the media sees only the bad in everything he does.
Last Friday, though, he couldn't have been more affable. Playing. Joking. Making fun of himself. Talking for a full five minutes about how he is looking forward to buying a terribly unmasculine four-pound dog because he doesn't have much use for the more rabid pets of Steelers linebacker Joey Porter that recently killed a miniature horse. He was funny, light, free. It is only a snapshot, a grain of sand at the beach, but he certainly didn't sound much like someone thinking of killing himself.
You are welcome to either snapshot.
The one of him laughing on the radio.
Or the one of him being rushed to the hospital.
But neither one of them really tells you who or where he is.
B-Deep
Footballguy
YUPThat's exaclty what I was thinking.Put him in his work environment with support of his team.
Stingdiddy
Footballguy
Isn't rule #1 when speaking in public to take the ####### gum out of your mouth? Kim must haved missed that in Public Relations 101.
Bankerguy
Footballguy
Those "mega-vitamins" with huge amounts of Vitamin C and other anti-oxidents can effect your reaction with other medications. They effect the oxygen levels in the bloodstream which in turn effects how your body absorbs chemicals.I don't suppose they mentioned WHAT he took in combination with what supplements, so that someone could say whether that type of reaction is possible. Nah, that would make too much sense. Not saying they're lying for sure, but I certainly am not going to completely dismiss the thought. Sounds like they're giving just enough information to refute one version of the story without giving enough information to present a refutable alternative.
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Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
This is almost as irresponsible as...well...most of this thread.
Not to be overly blunt, but how many "reasons not to be depressed" did someone like Kurt Cobain have. Depression doesn't know the size of your bank account.
