Breastfeeding (1 Viewer)

[iamsmilin]

We didn't have enough for me to help bottle feed most nights. My wife would pump 2 or 3 times while at work but we used most of that for daycare. My wife breast fed our daughter for a little over a year. Needless to say I got crap for not being able to help feed most nights. #2 is dues next month and my wife plans on doing the breastfeeding thing for at least a year. One thing to think about is if you can do it breastfeeding was a lot cheaper than having to go with formula.

Who gave you crap?

My wife for not getting up as often as she did to help feed, but whats a man going to do? I wasn't producing milk and I don't think she needed the extra hands.

I suppose it's part the post-pregnancy hormones, part sleep deprivation and part irritation that you're snoring away while she's awake, but wtf are you supposed to do? Hold her hand?

I had numerous thoughts of stabbing my husband while this was happening.

 

[Otis]

I'm already trying to slip another past the goalie; my wife is guarding cautiously.

She should guard cautiously. Getting pregnant two months after giving birth is a bad idea.

Will you please stop being such a #######ed nerd about all this. You made a baby. Congratulations on doing what people all over the world have been doing for millenia.

Settle down O.There are some risks for baby and mother if a woman gets pregnant too soon after birth.

Yes I know that, and my wife has mentioned that to me. But stop fretting about all the details here.There are some risks in just about everything in life. Too many parents are too concerned about optimizing everything. Let's all just be dirty and enjoy this life thing a bit, can we???

If you'll excuse me, I need to get out of here to get home and try and knock my wife up again. The upshot for me here is that we got her knocked up with a single try the first time around, and she says that post-pregnancy women are supposedly even more fertile.

Who has two thumbs and only hits home runs? This guy.

 

[iamsmilin]

I really hope that your wife doesn't have an issue keeping up her supply, because heaven forbid she has to go on formula and you are unsupportive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again.

I've read your post and you come off as condescending and self-righteous.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

Wait, are you guys saying breast feeding is reserved for new age type parents? That sure is some backward ### reasoning there

No I think it's the extremists either way. Such as: - If you don't read War and Peace or play Beethoven's 9th to the unborn baby, you are a bad parent and the kid will have no shot at getting into Harvard - If you don't bank chord blood you are a horrible parent who is cheap and won't protect your child - If you don't breastfeed, you lose the mother child bond, feed baby unnatural milk, etc. - If you do breastfeed your baby isn't getting enough milk, etc. - If your kid isn't sitting up by 6mos, crawling by 9mos, walking by 1 year they may be slow and/or autistic - We can't take Little Johnny out of the house until he's 3 months or ever take him to Texas Roadhouse because he may be subjected to peanut dust.

Chord blood. Now there's a racket.

 

[Black Box]

We didn't have enough for me to help bottle feed most nights. My wife would pump 2 or 3 times while at work but we used most of that for daycare. My wife breast fed our daughter for a little over a year. Needless to say I got crap for not being able to help feed most nights. #2 is dues next month and my wife plans on doing the breastfeeding thing for at least a year. One thing to think about is if you can do it breastfeeding was a lot cheaper than having to go with formula.

Who gave you crap?

My wife for not getting up as often as she did to help feed, but whats a man going to do? I wasn't producing milk and I don't think she needed the extra hands.

I suppose it's part the post-pregnancy hormones, part sleep deprivation and part irritation that you're snoring away while she's awake, but wtf are you supposed to do? Hold her hand?

I had numerous thoughts of stabbing my husband while this was happening.

:rollsover:

 

[Black Box]

Looking forward to the cloth diaper thread next!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wait, are you guys saying breast feeding is reserved for new age type parents? That sure is some backward ### reasoning there

Moops,Anyting people do that doesn't go with what the 80% majority do is always trivialized down to different easy to digest boxes for the 80% to understand. My wife has rubbed off on me slowly over the last many years to the point I guess we are sort of new age in certain approaches to a variety of lifestyle topics like health, nutrition, etc...

I do want to say to the folks that use formula, your not a criminal. It was invented, it works with our current society, but sometimes you should stop and ask yourself if everything you do because its the "norm" now is actually the best or right thing to do.

Let me also say this. Everyne on this board is a"new age" type on certain issues or things. I'll take something simple like riding a bike which should seem on the surface like an easy thing...just go down to Wal Mart and buy a bike and go out and exercise, lose a lot of weight and become healhy, right? Well as many of you know if you find a true bike expert who has one of those $2,500 street bikes that you will find some folks with very different points of view. I actually have a couple good cyclist friends and respect what they do but the point is you can find fanatics in every walk of life. The world we live in now has breastfeeding classified almost like a fantaic or new age person...step back and think about that for a minute. Does that seem natural to you?

I'm just asking you to stop for a second when you are not too busy running the kids to 29 places, running to work to pay your monthly bills(many of which you created for yourself), stop and question WTF you are doing and why?! Whose life are you living? Feelingtrapped, feeling lik thi question is uncomfortable to talk about...its gonna catch up with you one way or the other.

Thanks Moops, interesting thread.

 

[Otis]

Looking forward to the cloth diaper thread next!

HOW CAN ANYONE JUSTIFY PUTTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN NATURAL CLOTH AGAINST THEIR CHILD????

 

[Arizona Ron]

I'm already trying to slip another past the goalie; my wife is guarding cautiously.

She should guard cautiously. Getting pregnant two months after giving birth is a bad idea.

Will you please stop being such a #######ed nerd about all this. You made a baby. Congratulations on doing what people all over the world have been doing for millenia.

Settle down O.There are some risks for baby and mother if a woman gets pregnant too soon after birth.

Yes I know that, and my wife has mentioned that to me. But stop fretting about all the details here.There are some risks in just about everything in life. Too many parents are too concerned about optimizing everything. Let's all just be dirty and enjoy this life thing a bit, can we???

If you'll excuse me, I need to get out of here to get home and try and knock my wife up again. The upshot for me here is that we got her knocked up with a single try the first time around, and she says that post-pregnancy women are supposedly even more fertile.

Who has two thumbs and only hits home runs? This guy.

The moops does not approve of sexual contact with your wife yet Otis. Wait!

 

[Otis]

I do want to say to the folks that use formula, your not a criminal.

Phew. Thanks MoP.

 

[Rick James]

this thread is hilarious

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wait, is MOP really lecturing me on parenting?

He also lectures on dieting, anger management, substance abuse and can be found doling out relationship advice, gives tips on religious indoctrination and recently has preached a need for America to become more centered politically.If Gary Larson, Archie Bunker and Mike Tice had a ******* baby, I am pretty sure the offspring would be MOP.

 

[E-Z Glider]

My wife and I always feel bad for the parents that have to do all this pumping and planning and struggling worrying about feeding their babies. We have a supply of formula in the house, spares in the trunk, bottles everywhere, and we go where we want, when we want. Our days don't have to be mapped out in advance. By the same token, unlike these geeky new age parenting nerds, we didn't keep her sequestered from the world for three months. A week after she was born we walked her over to our favorite brunch spot in Brooklyn. We take her all over the place. She's well adjusted to people and noise and we think living life will make her a happier and more social baby. Oh and my wife doesn't have to awkwardly whip her boobs out at family parties.

well, thank god this baby didnt inconvenience you at all!

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

We just came from an era of time where most people knew that if it was painful or it hurt or it was hard, typically you knew that was probably the right ting to do. It's the old saying that anything worth doing is worth doing right. I know we are just talking about baby milk here but this mindset of people who at the very first sign that something might be difficult or tedious or uncomfortable we have as a society told pople that it is all OK. Meaning it's OK to not engage in what is best for yourself and perhaps those dependent on you because it might be difficult. Unfortunately we have a lot of people in his country that didn't read their history books very well and have no concept of time or place Without going into a really long post I will simply say we hae grown very soft as a nation and I fully expect the system in place to continue to crumble from the inside out. We simply cannot leave things alone that work perfectly fine to begin with. We perverse ourselves and allow ourselves the freedom to be absolutely awful. Unfortunately the down side to freedom is that a lot of people and I do mean a lot of people simply cannot handle it.

Wonderful post!

These are the dudes you've aligned yourself with, Moops. GLLLLLLLLL

 

[the moops]

I really hope that your wife doesn't have an issue keeping up her supply, because heaven forbid she has to go on formula and you are unsupportive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again.

I've read your post and you come off as condescending and self-righteous.

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

 

[trogg78]

Looking forward to the cloth diaper thread next!

HOW CAN ANYONE JUSTIFY PUTTING ANYTHING OTHER THAN NATURAL CLOTH AGAINST THEIR CHILD????

We like organic bamboo velour.

 

[Otis]

My wife and I always feel bad for the parents that have to do all this pumping and planning and struggling worrying about feeding their babies. We have a supply of formula in the house, spares in the trunk, bottles everywhere, and we go where we want, when we want. Our days don't have to be mapped out in advance. By the same token, unlike these geeky new age parenting nerds, we didn't keep her sequestered from the world for three months. A week after she was born we walked her over to our favorite brunch spot in Brooklyn. We take her all over the place. She's well adjusted to people and noise and we think living life will make her a happier and more social baby. Oh and my wife doesn't have to awkwardly whip her boobs out at family parties.

well, thank god this baby didnt inconvenience you at all!

Oh she's a colossal pain in the ###.

 

[Arizona Ron]

Who has two thumbs and only hits home runs? This guy.

 

[the moops]

We just came from an era of time where most people knew that if it was painful or it hurt or it was hard, typically you knew that was probably the right ting to do. It's the old saying that anything worth doing is worth doing right. I know we are just talking about baby milk here but this mindset of people who at the very first sign that something might be difficult or tedious or uncomfortable we have as a society told pople that it is all OK. Meaning it's OK to not engage in what is best for yourself and perhaps those dependent on you because it might be difficult. Unfortunately we have a lot of people in his country that didn't read their history books very well and have no concept of time or place Without going into a really long post I will simply say we hae grown very soft as a nation and I fully expect the system in place to continue to crumble from the inside out. We simply cannot leave things alone that work perfectly fine to begin with. We perverse ourselves and allow ourselves the freedom to be absolutely awful. Unfortunately the down side to freedom is that a lot of people and I do mean a lot of people simply cannot handle it.

Wonderful post!

These are the dudes you've aligned yourself with, Moops. GLLLLLLLLL

How the #### did this happen.

 

[Black Box]

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

If you have friends with infants who don't talk about this stuff with you, it's probably because they know how you feel and are trying to avoid the verbal lashing.

 

[Otis]

We just came from an era of time where most people knew that if it was painful or it hurt or it was hard, typically you knew that was probably the right ting to do. It's the old saying that anything worth doing is worth doing right. I know we are just talking about baby milk here but this mindset of people who at the very first sign that something might be difficult or tedious or uncomfortable we have as a society told pople that it is all OK. Meaning it's OK to not engage in what is best for yourself and perhaps those dependent on you because it might be difficult. Unfortunately we have a lot of people in his country that didn't read their history books very well and have no concept of time or place Without going into a really long post I will simply say we hae grown very soft as a nation and I fully expect the system in place to continue to crumble from the inside out. We simply cannot leave things alone that work perfectly fine to begin with. We perverse ourselves and allow ourselves the freedom to be absolutely awful. Unfortunately the down side to freedom is that a lot of people and I do mean a lot of people simply cannot handle it.

Wonderful post!

These are the dudes you've aligned yourself with, Moops. GLLLLLLLLL

How the #### did this happen.

You may want to dial up Rudnicki on the ol' PM box and ask for a reboot here.

 

[Big_Russel]

Looking forward to the cloth diaper thread next!

WE MASH ALL OF OUR OWN FRUITS AND VEGGIES FROM OUR ORGANIC GARDEN!!!!

 

[the moops]

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

If you have friends with infants who don't talk about this stuff with you, it's probably because they know how you feel and are trying to avoid the verbal lashing.

You do know that people are much more free to say things on the innerwebs than they are in real life, right?

 

[Arizona Ron]

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

If you have friends with infants who don't talk about this stuff with you, it's probably because they know how you feel and are trying to avoid the verbal lashing.

You do know that people are much more free to say things on the innerwebs than they are in real life, right?

How's it working out for you?

 

[Black Box]

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

If you have friends with infants who don't talk about this stuff with you, it's probably because they know how you feel and are trying to avoid the verbal lashing.

You do know that people are much more free to say things on the innerwebs than they are in real life, right?

So you just give them the stink eye?

 

[the moops]

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

If you have friends with infants who don't talk about this stuff with you, it's probably because they know how you feel and are trying to avoid the verbal lashing.

You do know that people are much more free to say things on the innerwebs than they are in real life, right?

How's it working out for you?

Just fine I guess. I dont know what your point is though.

 

[Otis]

PS... my wife also drank a glass or two of red wine regularly while pregnant. Which section of hell will we be allocated to?

Did I mention my daughter scored a 9.9 on the Admiral Akbar test? The doctor said she would have had a 10, but they aren't allowed to give out 10s. Alternatively, the new mom on the other side of the curtain was in a screaming and crying frenzy because her baby was a little jaundiced. And I know for a fact she didn't drink anything during her pregnancy. SUCK IT, PARENTING NERDS!

 

[Big_Russel]

this thread is hilarious

Arizona Ron dropped a Chinese Restaurant Gem back there... But the train is moving too fast for me to even quote. Lol

 

[iamsmilin]

I really hope that your wife doesn't have an issue keeping up her supply, because heaven forbid she has to go on formula and you are unsupportive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again.

I've read your post and you come off as condescending and self-righteous.

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

Maybe I am sensitive about it but you have NO IDEA how much a new mom has to deal with in terms of hearing about this stuff. You get push back from everyone thinking that their opinion is the right one. I've talked to women who had post-partum so badly that they felt like chocking their child when they latched on. They made plenty of milk and had "no real" medical reason not to. I've talked to other women who didn't even bother trying because they didn't want to. Plain and simple. You have no idea where anyone falls and to come and just say blatantly that you find something detestable is going to cause people to react.When it comes down to it, (most) everyone does what they think is best for their children. There is nothing worse than dealing with holier than thou parents who judge other parents./rant

 

[the moops]

PS... my wife also drank a glass or two of red wine regularly while pregnant. Which section of hell will we be allocated to?

My wife drank a beer a day for the last few weeks. What the hell is the Akbar test?

 

[the moops]

I really hope that your wife doesn't have an issue keeping up her supply, because heaven forbid she has to go on formula and you are unsupportive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again.

I've read your post and you come off as condescending and self-righteous.

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

Maybe I am sensitive about it but you have NO IDEA how much a new mom has to deal with in terms of hearing about this stuff. You get push back from everyone thinking that their opinion is the right one. I've talked to women who had post-partum so badly that they felt like chocking their child when they latched on. They made plenty of milk and had "no real" medical reason not to. I've talked to other women who didn't even bother trying because they didn't want to. Plain and simple. You have no idea where anyone falls and to come and just say blatantly that you find something detestable is going to cause people to react.When it comes down to it, (most) everyone does what they think is best for their children. There is nothing worse than dealing with holier than thou parents who judge other parents./rant

I will tone down my i-disdain

 

[Big_Russel]

PS... my wife also drank a glass or two of red wine regularly while pregnant. Which section of hell will we be allocated to?

My wife drank a beer a day for the last few weeks.

ETA: Seriously?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Whatever we do here gang, let's be sure and make parenting as tedious and overanalyzed a thing as we possibly can. We wouldn't want this to start seeming like fun or anything.

Sorry to keep coming behind your posts and I know your smart, that's not the issue at all Otis, anyone who knows you on the boards, knows you like to come in here to relax and be goofy. That last sentence there where you say bsically why can't everything be fun...OK I'm paraphrasing a bit but the theme is you want it to be fun. And the point I was making, Moops to some degree, and others is that just because something is painful, uncomfortable, not easy...that shouldn't always be the deciding factor in things.My cousin is studying for the bar right now, we just celebrated him graduatng from UM and racking up $200,000 in loans and the point as you well know Mr Atty is that Law is not for everyone. That's why you gotta study for an LSAT and then 3 years for the Juris Doctor(yes I am looking into it) and then even when you get done with all that you still have to take a mandatory test to prove you know something. You can say you had a blast the whoile time Otis but you had to study for all that stuff at some point. Most of the people who roll away from things that aren't always fun usually never have what it takes to make it thru Law School. And I'm not saying every lawyer is a bette human being either, just making a point that if you want somethng enough you wll do whatever it takes, period. Most people do not have that spirit in any part of their lives(defined as health, wealth, and wisdom) and they wonder why they have problems.

 

[ODoyleRules]

Wait, are you guys saying breast feeding is reserved for new age type parents? That sure is some backward ### reasoning there

No I think it's the extremists either way. Such as: - If you don't read War and Peace or play Beethoven's 9th to the unborn baby, you are a bad parent and the kid will have no shot at getting into Harvard - If you don't bank chord blood you are a horrible parent who is cheap and won't protect your child - If you don't breastfeed, you lose the mother child bond, feed baby unnatural milk, etc. - If you do breastfeed your baby isn't getting enough milk, etc. - If your kid isn't sitting up by 6mos, crawling by 9mos, walking by 1 year they may be slow and/or autistic - We can't take Little Johnny out of the house until he's 3 months or ever take him to Texas Roadhouse because he may be subjected to peanut dust.

awesome stuff.

 

[goonsquad]

Got a bottle fed boy and a titty fed girl...

When my son was two he could recite the Alphabet, count to 20, and was fully potty trained.

My daughter is two now... I caught her trying to bite her own reflection in the mirror last night.

 

[Otis]

PS... my wife also drank a glass or two of red wine regularly while pregnant. Which section of hell will we be allocated to?

My wife drank a beer a day for the last few weeks.

What the hell is the Akbar test?

What kind of parent are you anyway?!?!?!

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I really hope that your wife doesn't have an issue keeping up her supply, because heaven forbid she has to go on formula and you are unsupportive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again.

I've read your post and you come off as condescending and self-righteous.

Do you always play the battered housewife and mom or have I just never noticed? My goodness, he has a new infant and is proud of his wife for using traditional feeding methods and you turn this into "I was victimized" on a mostly male dominated site...I bet you wear the pants.

 

[Dragons]

My favorite part of the whole thread are those giving anecdotal stories as if they're the proof that's missing in the real studies that can't (humanely) control for the breastfeeding variable.

 

[Otis]

Got a bottle fed boy and a titty fed girl...

When my son was two he could recite the Alphabet, count to 20, and was fully potty trained.

My daughter is two now... I caught her trying to bite her own reflection in the mirror last night.

 

[Otis]

MOP - which feeding method was employed with your kid, if you know?

 

[the moops]

PS... my wife also drank a glass or two of red wine regularly while pregnant. Which section of hell will we be allocated to?

My wife drank a beer a day for the last few weeks.

What the hell is the Akbar test?

What kind of parent are you anyway?!?!?!

I just looked it up. No apgar test was done at our hospital. Kid easily would have gotten a 10 though. He was latched on and breastfeeding within 20 minutes of being born.

 

[Doug B]

Best post of the thread and it seems like nobody else even read it. lol

A lot of people really believe that the science on breastfeeding is a settled matter. It's not even a little bit close, and most likely will never be.You can't humanely control for enough factors to determine that breastfeeding -- and breastfeeding alone -- accounts for the full amount of the benefits shown in the OP. Correlational studies are not convincing in and of themselves.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

So moops, how did the natural, water birth go?

 

[koby925]

Another thing new age parents obsess over is the percentile heights and weights the doctors give. Especially parents with boys.

OMG Little Johnny is in the 95th percentile for 3 month olds!! Then their reaction is either...He's gonna be a lineman in the NFL!!! Or...OMG we gotta get Little Johnny and Mom (if she's breastfeeding) on an organic no carb diet ASAP!!

Our daughter is tiny for her age weightwise. 5-10th percentile. So when new age parents with 9-10 month olds see her out in public, think she's that age and see her running all over the place and talking, they are in awe and want to be close to greatness. When I tell them she is 15 months and small for her age, they then ask what's wrong with her.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

That's fine. But I made it particularly clear that I wasn't talking about women who can't produce enough milk or have a medical reason not to.Who would have thought offering an opinion would cause such a stir. Damn.I am quite sure I have friends who feed their kids formula. It has never come up in conversation and if it did, I wouldn't talk condescendingly about it. In fact, I probably wouldnt even talk to them at all about it. I dont really care what other people do with their kids. Just thought this would be an interesting topic and I was curious why people would choose not to breast feed when there are clear benefits to it (there are literally thousands of studies that show different benefits for the infant).

If you have friends with infants who don't talk about this stuff with you, it's probably because they know how you feel and are trying to avoid the verbal lashing.

What kind of backwards thinking is that? So that he doesn't make others uncmfortable he keeps to himself so he doesn't upset others, in fact he is going out of his way to respect others beliefs but you honestly think he is worried about a verbal assualt? I'm afraid he would make most people cry if he were given the chance, and not because he is mean either. People don't like the truth, including me so I find your logic perfectly flawed. Props to Moops for taking solace in his own beliefs and not needing the approval of a lot of people. It's not like he was seeking comfort or assurance in some public forum

 

[the moops]

So moops, how did the natural, water birth go?

It was natural. She wanted no part of the water though. None.She labored at home from 930 pm until 415 am. Got to the hospital at 430 and she was ready to push (10 cms). She pushed for 2 hours and 10 minutes. Little guy (not real little 8 pound 3 oz) came out at 640 am.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP - which feeding method was employed with your kid, if you know?

I don't even know his name so I'll get back to you on that.

 

[Doug B]

Isn't formula crazy expensive? How much do new parents spend on it in a month?

Crazy expensive? No. Maybe $60-100 a month (depending on age of child, feeding habits, etc.).

 

[trogg78]

I haven't seen it mentioned yet, bottle fed baby's crap stinks to high heavan. Breast fed baby crap smells so good I could use it as cologne.

 

[iamsmilin]

I really hope that your wife doesn't have an issue keeping up her supply, because heaven forbid she has to go on formula and you are unsupportive.

Perhaps you should read my posts again.

I've read your post and you come off as condescending and self-righteous.

Do you always play the battered housewife and mom or have I just never noticed? My goodness, he has a new infant and is proud of his wife for using traditional feeding methods and you turn this into "I was victimized" on a mostly male dominated site...I bet you wear the pants.

I give a female POV and always have, I've never said I speak for all females but I will post about my experience. If you take that as being a battered housewife, that's fine. There is a very different vibe saying "I'm so happy that she is able to to do this" vs what he wrote. Heaven forbid a female makes an opinionated post on an all male board dealing with female issues. I must be a ball buster.