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[jurrassic]

Who is ignoring what Favre brought to the Packers? All I'm saying is it was mutually beneficial. I was listening to the radio yesterday and some guy wrote in who is a Favre fan and said he has season tickets to the Packers but hasn't gone all year because he is mad at the Packers. Those are the type of people who call themselves Packer fans. Being a fan doesn't mean you root for a team when you feel like it. Also, it's been extremely overdocumented by about 10 different media outlets in the state that Favre was not "run out of Green Bay". I didn't even think that was up for debate anymore. They told Favre he could come back on 2 seperate occassions after he retired. Stop clinging to your perceived reality of the truth. You love Favre. Good for you. I have no issue with that. He is a good football player. What I find funny is that some of you guys can't see the other viewpoint. What is so "idiotic" about not wanting one of your's team biggest rivals to win the Super Bowl with arguably your team's greatest player as their qb who maneuevered for two years to go play for them and publically stated one of the reasons was so he could stick to the Packers. I'm done wasting my energy on this.

 

[ookook]

the ones that cheated on me.

not surprised. Every woman I know doesn't consider a person that switches team allegiances someone man enough to not cheat on them

Of course, my team allegiances have NOT switched in the least. Which you would know if you had read more closely. Being a fan of one team does not require rooting for another team to lose once you are out.Perhaps the problem is the quality and education of the women you know...

 

[sho nuff]

Whats even more funny is you run to the defense of Favre quite often and blame it all on Packer fans.Read the game thread...read the running up the score thread...then realize its not Packer fans doing all this bashing.And several Packer fans said they had no problem other than thinking it was dumb to have him in the game at that point.Not a Favre bash...but a Childress bash.

Funny how packer fans have to make this personnel.Don't see where I'm defending Favre here anyway. I see where I pointed out that the Jealous packer fans keep waiting to bash him. I'm sure many will hop on as soon as they can. Where did I say it was all packer fans. I simply pointed out they are the funniest and make the most absurd points and try to deflect the situation. Just look for high post count Packer fans in Favre threads. I also did not say there were not some intelligent packer fans that made valid points.I posted in that thread and the Cowboys should have stopped the Vikings if they didn't want them to score. In my mind there was no running up the score. Dallas was simply not a match for the Vikings.

Personnel?If you meant personal...I see no Packer fan getting any more personal than you are with your posts.Don't see where you defend Favre? Might want to read your posts in these threads there chief.You did not say it was all Packer fans...but in nearly every thread on this topic, you come in guns a blazing after Packer fans. Rarely even conceding that many fans across the board feel that way about the topic. And I have found that most talking about the running up the score and such...are not Packer fans.As for absurd points...purely your opinion...but you complain about people getting "personnel" then call people's opinions absurd?

 

[sho nuff]

For what it is worth, I root for Sharper and Longwell to do well too. In all honesty nothing else makes much sense to me. And I really could care less whether other GB fans now hope they do poorly. I like them because they wore green and gold the way it should be worn and just because they now play for another team does not change that. Not so much with Walker and some others.I like Favre because I am GB fan and see no reason I cannot root for both.I also wish my ex-girlfriends all the happiness in the world. Do you wish them misery? Not even the ones that cheated on me.

Its fine that you do so. And I don't have a problem with those that wish him well or even cheering for him now.its those that cheered for him against the Packers (and there are some who did) who have some issues.But I don't see it that way to cheer for him. Not because its him...its the same with Longwell...its because he is a Viking. Same if he was a Bear.Im not one to rah rah root for the NFC North. it does nothing for the Packers for the Vikings to win. Its a bit different in NCAA as a bowl win or wins for the conference could help the other team. In the NFL...it does not matter if the Vikings win as far as how Green Bay will do next season.So as always...regardless if its Favre or Culpepper or Tarvaris or Brad Johnson playing QB...I will cheer for whoever is playing against the Vikings in the postseason or at any time. Just as I cheered against the Bears a few years ago when they were in the playoffs.Just as I suspect most Vikings and Bears fans cheered against the Packers in the 90s.

 

[Pipes]

Who is ignoring what Favre brought to the Packers? All I'm saying is it was mutually beneficial. I was listening to the radio yesterday and some guy wrote in who is a Favre fan and said he has season tickets to the Packers but hasn't gone all year because he is mad at the Packers. Those are the type of people who call themselves Packer fans. Being a fan doesn't mean you root for a team when you feel like it. Also, it's been extremely overdocumented by about 10 different media outlets in the state that Favre was not "run out of Green Bay ". I didn't even think that was up for debate anymore. They told Favre he could come back on 2 seperate occassions after he retired. Stop clinging to your perceived reality of the truth. You love Favre. Good for you. I have no issue with that. He is a good football player. What I find funny is that some of you guys can't see the other viewpoint. What is so "idiotic" about not wanting one of your's team biggest rivals to win the Super Bowl with arguably your team's greatest player as their qb who maneuevered for two years to go play for them and publically stated one of the reasons was so he could stick to the Packers. I'm done wasting my energy on this.

You didn't see the gun Thompson was pointing at Favre during his retirement press conference?

 

[zDragon]

Whats even more funny is you run to the defense of Favre quite often and blame it all on Packer fans.Read the game thread...read the running up the score thread...then realize its not Packer fans doing all this bashing.And several Packer fans said they had no problem other than thinking it was dumb to have him in the game at that point.Not a Favre bash...but a Childress bash.

Funny how packer fans have to make this personnel.Don't see where I'm defending Favre here anyway. I see where I pointed out that the Jealous packer fans keep waiting to bash him. I'm sure many will hop on as soon as they can. Where did I say it was all packer fans. I simply pointed out they are the funniest and make the most absurd points and try to deflect the situation. Just look for high post count Packer fans in Favre threads. I also did not say there were not some intelligent packer fans that made valid points.I posted in that thread and the Cowboys should have stopped the Vikings if they didn't want them to score. In my mind there was no running up the score. Dallas was simply not a match for the Vikings.

Personnel?If you meant personal...I see no Packer fan getting any more personal than you are with your posts.Don't see where you defend Favre? Might want to read your posts in these threads there chief.You did not say it was all Packer fans...but in nearly every thread on this topic, you come in guns a blazing after Packer fans. Rarely even conceding that many fans across the board feel that way about the topic. And I have found that most talking about the running up the score and such...are not Packer fans.As for absurd points...purely your opinion...but you complain about people getting "personnel" then call people's opinions absurd?

I never come in guns blazing against packers fans. I even said as much in that it's not all packers fans that whine and cry and can't wait to jump on Favre. You pointing out my typo of "personnel" is an example of the absurd points some use in posts just to deflect the topic at hand. Of course it's my opinion that a typo being highlighted as much as you just did is absurd.Like I said you can find the Packer fans I'm talking about by searching for the high number posters in the Favre threads. I know not all Packer fans are that way.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Yep. Culpepper, Moss, Sharper, Birk and other former Vikings have been players I've never rooted against. I'll root against Sharper this weekend (lol), but I wish him all the best in the remainder of his career. He gave us some good seasons here in Minnesota (like he did in Green Bay), so best of luck to him with the Saints (after Sunday) or whatever other team he decides to play for.

That's a great point. I've wished that Culpepper would perform well since the injury and trade, and was hopefull his 4 TD game against Miami signaled a comeback for him a while back. Obviously that was too much to hope for. But yeah, I still wish all those guys the best, and I really would have loved to have seen Culpepper succeed on the Lions (so far as it didn't interfere with the Vikes plans, natch). I know the two QBs are nowhere near the same stature, but if think there's some similarity to rooting for C-Pep on the Raiders/Dolphins and Lions and rooting for Favre on the Vikes. The main difference of course is chance of success.This might be easy to say because the odds of it happening were 0 percent but I wouldn't have felt begrudged if Culpepper had taken the Lions to the Superbowl and won.I'm real glad to see Birk still excelling in Baltimore, and Moss' season in '07 brought back good memories.

 

[sho nuff]

Whats even more funny is you run to the defense of Favre quite often and blame it all on Packer fans.Read the game thread...read the running up the score thread...then realize its not Packer fans doing all this bashing.And several Packer fans said they had no problem other than thinking it was dumb to have him in the game at that point.Not a Favre bash...but a Childress bash.

Funny how packer fans have to make this personnel.Don't see where I'm defending Favre here anyway. I see where I pointed out that the Jealous packer fans keep waiting to bash him. I'm sure many will hop on as soon as they can. Where did I say it was all packer fans. I simply pointed out they are the funniest and make the most absurd points and try to deflect the situation. Just look for high post count Packer fans in Favre threads. I also did not say there were not some intelligent packer fans that made valid points.I posted in that thread and the Cowboys should have stopped the Vikings if they didn't want them to score. In my mind there was no running up the score. Dallas was simply not a match for the Vikings.

Personnel?If you meant personal...I see no Packer fan getting any more personal than you are with your posts.Don't see where you defend Favre? Might want to read your posts in these threads there chief.You did not say it was all Packer fans...but in nearly every thread on this topic, you come in guns a blazing after Packer fans. Rarely even conceding that many fans across the board feel that way about the topic. And I have found that most talking about the running up the score and such...are not Packer fans.As for absurd points...purely your opinion...but you complain about people getting "personnel" then call people's opinions absurd?

I never come in guns blazing against packers fans. I even said as much in that it's not all packers fans that whine and cry and can't wait to jump on Favre. You pointing out my typo of "personnel" is an example of the absurd points some use in posts just to deflect the topic at hand. Of course it's my opinion that a typo being highlighted as much as you just did is absurd.Like I said you can find the Packer fans I'm talking about by searching for the high number posters in the Favre threads. I know not all Packer fans are that way.

Umm...I did not point out your typo as an example of absurd things you have said. I did use the typo...but it was not about your typo...it was about you complaining about people getting personal...then you call their opinions absurd. You basically just were proving yourself to be hypocritical there.I can find a bunch of high number posts in Favre threads that are not Packer fans...yet rarely do you respond to them...kind of my point. And you can claim you don't come in guns a blazing at Packer fans...but your post was directed to Packer fans...not to other fans complaining about things or saying the same things...just the Packer fans.

 

[sho nuff]

Yep. Culpepper, Moss, Sharper, Birk and other former Vikings have been players I've never rooted against. I'll root against Sharper this weekend (lol), but I wish him all the best in the remainder of his career. He gave us some good seasons here in Minnesota (like he did in Green Bay), so best of luck to him with the Saints (after Sunday) or whatever other team he decides to play for.

That's a great point. I've wished that Culpepper would perform well since the injury and trade, and was hopefull his 4 TD game against Miami signaled a comeback for him a while back. Obviously that was too much to hope for. But yeah, I still wish all those guys the best, and I really would have loved to have seen Culpepper succeed on the Lions (so far as it didn't interfere with the Vikes plans, natch). I know the two QBs are nowhere near the same stature, but if think there's some similarity to rooting for C-Pep on the Raiders/Dolphins and Lions and rooting for Favre on the Vikes. The main difference of course is chance of success.This might be easy to say because the odds of it happening were 0 percent but I wouldn't have felt begrudged if Culpepper had taken the Lions to the Superbowl and won.I'm real glad to see Birk still excelling in Baltimore, and Moss' season in '07 brought back good memories.

Im sorry...but I don't see much similarity in cheering for Cpep with the Raiders/Dolphins to Packer fans doing the same for Favre with the Vikes.Even the Lions.There is not nearly the amount of a rivalry there...Id think even Packer fans could cheer a bit more for him if he was on the lions trying to revive that team.But its far different than with the Vikings or Bears.

 

[mozzy84]

Yep. Culpepper, Moss, Sharper, Birk and other former Vikings have been players I've never rooted against. I'll root against Sharper this weekend (lol), but I wish him all the best in the remainder of his career. He gave us some good seasons here in Minnesota (like he did in Green Bay), so best of luck to him with the Saints (after Sunday) or whatever other team he decides to play for.

That's a great point. I've wished that Culpepper would perform well since the injury and trade, and was hopefull his 4 TD game against Miami signaled a comeback for him a while back. Obviously that was too much to hope for. But yeah, I still wish all those guys the best, and I really would have loved to have seen Culpepper succeed on the Lions (so far as it didn't interfere with the Vikes plans, natch). I know the two QBs are nowhere near the same stature, but if think there's some similarity to rooting for C-Pep on the Raiders/Dolphins and Lions and rooting for Favre on the Vikes. The main difference of course is chance of success.This might be easy to say because the odds of it happening were 0 percent but I wouldn't have felt begrudged if Culpepper had taken the Lions to the Superbowl and won.

I'm real glad to see Birk still excelling in Baltimore, and Moss' season in '07 brought back good memories.

scotty no way man, most vikes fans I know could have cared less what happened to c-pepp one way or another after he was traded. Who asks for a raise after they shred their knee?? Favre/vikings and the pack fans are in a different universe than that for a bunch of different reasons.

 

[ArcticEdge]

"Brett Favre has great confidence in Brett Favre"

-Joe Buck

 

[trader jake]

Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years."

WOW! Please stop.

Still here.

Green Bay sold out every playoff, regular season, and preseason game for decades prior to Brett Favre's arrival. Since 1959 to be exact. Football fans have been coming from all around the world and spending their money at Lambeau Field for a long time. To imply that Favre somehow helped build the city is laughable and makes you sound like a fool.Debate the Favre/Packers divorce all you want but do so with some knowledge and insight, not half-baked theories and lame tidbits you pull out of thin air. Frankly, Favre could have a bigger impact keeping the Vikings in Minnesota if the team's recent success helps Zigi Wolf get a new stadium built in the Twin Cities.

 

[jurrassic]

Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years."

WOW! Please stop.

Still here.

Green Bay sold out every playoff, regular season, and preseason game for decades prior to Brett Favre's arrival. Since 1959 to be exact. Football fans have been coming from all around the world and spending their money at Lambeau Field for a long time. To imply that Favre somehow helped build the city is laughable and makes you sound like a fool.Debate the Favre/Packers divorce all you want but do so with some knowledge and insight, not half-baked theories and lame tidbits you pull out of thin air. Frankly, Favre could have a bigger impact keeping the Vikings in Minnesota if the team's recent success helps Zigi Wolf get a new stadium built in the Twin Cities.

Good Posting.

 

[Mario Kart]

Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years."

WOW! Please stop.

Still here.

Green Bay sold out every playoff, regular season, and preseason game for decades prior to Brett Favre's arrival. Since 1959 to be exact. Football fans have been coming from all around the world and spending their money at Lambeau Field for a long time. To imply that Favre somehow helped build the city is laughable and makes you sound like a fool.Debate the Favre/Packers divorce all you want but do so with some knowledge and insight, not half-baked theories and lame tidbits you pull out of thin air. Frankly, Favre could have a bigger impact keeping the Vikings in Minnesota if the team's recent success helps Zigi Wolf get a new stadium built in the Twin Cities.

Reading comprehension down. When Wolf, Holmgren, Favre and White showed up in town, it was a different atmosphere. Before they showed up, sure the stadium sold out, but what exposure did the Packers have nationally? How good were they on a national level? Local money goes so far in keeping a team viable but when the success of the Wolf Era came in, national money started showing up. How many hotels have been built near and around Lambeau? How many restaurants were built? Hell, they renovated the stadium because they had money to do so after the success of those teams and through it all one person stayed around. I don't appreciate Favre for what he was able to bring to Green Bay, the city, I appreciate him for what he brought to the team and still brings to the team. But, do not diminish the fact that those 90's teams along with the longevity of Favre, helped bring the team that success and future success as well. Was Favre 100% responsible for it? No one said that was the case, however Favre sure helped the cause of the new infrastructure, business, and some tourism that has been brought into that city since before he got there. The 70's teams were horrible, the 80's teams were horrible. No one was building anything around there to allow people to come and stay, spend money, and see the lure that was the Green Bay Packers in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's. You might say I sound like a fool for whatever reason, but the truth is the truth.

 

[sho nuff]

Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years."

WOW! Please stop.

Still here.

Green Bay sold out every playoff, regular season, and preseason game for decades prior to Brett Favre's arrival. Since 1959 to be exact. Football fans have been coming from all around the world and spending their money at Lambeau Field for a long time. To imply that Favre somehow helped build the city is laughable and makes you sound like a fool.Debate the Favre/Packers divorce all you want but do so with some knowledge and insight, not half-baked theories and lame tidbits you pull out of thin air. Frankly, Favre could have a bigger impact keeping the Vikings in Minnesota if the team's recent success helps Zigi Wolf get a new stadium built in the Twin Cities.

Reading comprehension down. When Wolf, Holmgren, Favre and White showed up in town, it was a different atmosphere. Before they showed up, sure the stadium sold out, but what exposure did the Packers have nationally? How good were they on a national level? Local money goes so far in keeping a team viable but when the success of the Wolf Era came in, national money started showing up. How many hotels have been built near and around Lambeau? How many restaurants were built? Hell, they renovated the stadium because they had money to do so after the success of those teams and through it all one person stayed around. I don't appreciate Favre for what he was able to bring to Green Bay, the city, I appreciate him for what he brought to the team and still brings to the team. But, do not diminish the fact that those 90's teams along with the longevity of Favre, helped bring the team that success and future success as well. Was Favre 100% responsible for it? No one said that was the case, however Favre sure helped the cause of the new infrastructure, business, and some tourism that has been brought into that city since before he got there. The 70's teams were horrible, the 80's teams were horrible. No one was building anything around there to allow people to come and stay, spend money, and see the lure that was the Green Bay Packers in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's. You might say I sound like a fool for whatever reason, but the truth is the truth.

Mostly agree with the exception of the expansions done in the 80s and beginning of the 90s when they added almost 200 boxes from 1985 to 1995 (in 85, 90, and 95)

 

[trader jake]

Quit acting like a child and go about your merry way. There is a huge gray area here but you, and others, want it to be black and white. You list the things Packers "gave" to Favre. But, did you ever think about what Favre gave to the Packers and especially the community of Green Bay? Get real. Favre brought that town more money than that town ever saw in its life. Have you been to Green Bay? It used to be a barren wasteland next to some water and the success the Packers had, with Favre, brought the town to where it is today. I guess you are more of a "what have you done for me lately" kind of guy instead of a "thanks for helping us through the years."

WOW! Please stop.

Still here.

Green Bay sold out every playoff, regular season, and preseason game for decades prior to Brett Favre's arrival. Since 1959 to be exact. Football fans have been coming from all around the world and spending their money at Lambeau Field for a long time. To imply that Favre somehow helped build the city is laughable and makes you sound like a fool.Debate the Favre/Packers divorce all you want but do so with some knowledge and insight, not half-baked theories and lame tidbits you pull out of thin air. Frankly, Favre could have a bigger impact keeping the Vikings in Minnesota if the team's recent success helps Zigi Wolf get a new stadium built in the Twin Cities.

Reading comprehension down. When Wolf, Holmgren, Favre and White showed up in town, it was a different atmosphere. Before they showed up, sure the stadium sold out, but what exposure did the Packers have nationally? How good were they on a national level? Local money goes so far in keeping a team viable but when the success of the Wolf Era came in, national money started showing up. How many hotels have been built near and around Lambeau? How many restaurants were built? Hell, they renovated the stadium because they had money to do so after the success of those teams and through it all one person stayed around. I don't appreciate Favre for what he was able to bring to Green Bay, the city, I appreciate him for what he brought to the team and still brings to the team. But, do not diminish the fact that those 90's teams along with the longevity of Favre, helped bring the team that success and future success as well. Was Favre 100% responsible for it? No one said that was the case, however Favre sure helped the cause of the new infrastructure, business, and some tourism that has been brought into that city since before he got there. The 70's teams were horrible, the 80's teams were horrible. No one was building anything around there to allow people to come and stay, spend money, and see the lure that was the Green Bay Packers in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's. You might say I sound like a fool for whatever reason, but the truth is the truth.

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

 

[Mario Kart]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

 

[zDragon]

Whats even more funny is you run to the defense of Favre quite often and blame it all on Packer fans.Read the game thread...read the running up the score thread...then realize its not Packer fans doing all this bashing.And several Packer fans said they had no problem other than thinking it was dumb to have him in the game at that point.Not a Favre bash...but a Childress bash.

Funny how packer fans have to make this personnel.Don't see where I'm defending Favre here anyway. I see where I pointed out that the Jealous packer fans keep waiting to bash him. I'm sure many will hop on as soon as they can. Where did I say it was all packer fans. I simply pointed out they are the funniest and make the most absurd points and try to deflect the situation. Just look for high post count Packer fans in Favre threads. I also did not say there were not some intelligent packer fans that made valid points.I posted in that thread and the Cowboys should have stopped the Vikings if they didn't want them to score. In my mind there was no running up the score. Dallas was simply not a match for the Vikings.

Personnel?If you meant personal...I see no Packer fan getting any more personal than you are with your posts.Don't see where you defend Favre? Might want to read your posts in these threads there chief.You did not say it was all Packer fans...but in nearly every thread on this topic, you come in guns a blazing after Packer fans. Rarely even conceding that many fans across the board feel that way about the topic. And I have found that most talking about the running up the score and such...are not Packer fans.As for absurd points...purely your opinion...but you complain about people getting "personnel" then call people's opinions absurd?

I never come in guns blazing against packers fans. I even said as much in that it's not all packers fans that whine and cry and can't wait to jump on Favre. You pointing out my typo of "personnel" is an example of the absurd points some use in posts just to deflect the topic at hand. Of course it's my opinion that a typo being highlighted as much as you just did is absurd.Like I said you can find the Packer fans I'm talking about by searching for the high number posters in the Favre threads. I know not all Packer fans are that way.

Umm...I did not point out your typo as an example of absurd things you have said. I did use the typo...but it was not about your typo...it was about you complaining about people getting personal...then you call their opinions absurd. You basically just were proving yourself to be hypocritical there.I can find a bunch of high number posts in Favre threads that are not Packer fans...yet rarely do you respond to them...kind of my point. And you can claim you don't come in guns a blazing at Packer fans...but your post was directed to Packer fans...not to other fans complaining about things or saying the same things...just the Packer fans.

Then why don't you stay on point and quit the attacks such as this. Think about it someone is saying the majority of the posts he remembers being absurd are Packer fans. Then a Packers fan starts making attacks on said individual. Regardless what you post reflects on Packer fans so you should take that into consideration.

 

[The Kerminator]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line.

Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

I have to disagree with you Trader Jake regarding the Miller Park comparison. I believe that Brewer's team did have on it Geoff Jenkins. He's a look alike for a young Brett Favre. In fact, I guess that would make Brett Favre partially responsible for Miller Park and Milwaukee. Geoff Jenkins

 

[phthalatemagic]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

Reggie White?

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

Reggie White?

Ron Wolf? Mike Holmgren (you know, the guy with a street named after him)? Leroy Butler?There's some people acting like Favre single handily brought this franchise back from the brink of catastrophe or something. He was great for Green Bay. Great for Wisconsin. But so were many, many others. Let's not get too carried away with what he did or didn't do for the franchise.

 

[sho nuff]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

Reggie White?

Ron Wolf? Mike Holmgren (you know, the guy with a street named after him)? Leroy Butler?There's some people acting like Favre single handily brought this franchise back from the brink of catastrophe or something. He was great for Green Bay. Great for Wisconsin. But so were many, many others. Let's not get too carried away with what he did or didn't do for the franchise.

 

[jurrassic]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

Reggie White?

Ron Wolf? Mike Holmgren (you know, the guy with a street named after him)? Leroy Butler?There's some people acting like Favre single handily brought this franchise back from the brink of catastrophe or something. He was great for Green Bay. Great for Wisconsin. But so were many, many others. Let's not get too carried away with what he did or didn't do for the franchise.

The defense on that Super Bowl team was unbelievably good. Though 19 games (regular and post season) they gave up 210 points. That is 11 points per game. That is ridiculous. Favre had just a little help with other players on the team.

 

[Mario Kart]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

Reggie White?

Ron Wolf? Mike Holmgren (you know, the guy with a street named after him)? Leroy Butler?There's some people acting like Favre single handily brought this franchise back from the brink of catastrophe or something. He was great for Green Bay. Great for Wisconsin. But so were many, many others. Let's not get too carried away with what he did or didn't do for the franchise.

Wow, you people really do not read. I never game 100% of the credit to Favre and I even mentioned Wolf, Holmgren, and White. Let's all have selective memory. Awesome.

 

[trader jake]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Move over Jean Nicolet!! Yeah, without Brett Favre the county residents definitely would not have voted to raise taxes in order to cover the cost of upgrading the most beloved building in the entire state. The same one they filled up every single game played there since 1959. Favre also had much more to do with improvements around Lambeau Field than say, basic common sense. Much more than developers and entrepreneurs knowing location, location, location matters a great deal and when their businesses are within a reasonable distance from that filled up stadium it can only help their bottom line. Odd how the same state managed to accomplish these exact same things a bit further south. The Brewers certainly don't have the same tradition and a sell out streak going strong at 50 years like the Packers yet the city of Milwaukee managed to build a new stadium, increase local business development, and increase visibility...all without Brett Favre. Your delusion on this topic is only exceeded by your willingness to repeat your incorrect assertions.

Give credit where credit is due. The Packers do not have much of the success they did in the 90's without Favre. Money rolls in when teams win, national exposure rolls in when teams win, tourism rolls in when teams win, etc. You are taking things a bit too literally if you believe someone thinks Favre helped to actually lay brick and mortar for the stadium. However, the success that Favre helped bring to the Packers, certainly helped bring in many more dollars into the Green Bay community than Jean Nicolet ever did. Again, give credit where credit is due.

Reggie White?

Ron Wolf? Mike Holmgren (you know, the guy with a street named after him)? Leroy Butler?There's some people acting like Favre single handily brought this franchise back from the brink of catastrophe or something. He was great for Green Bay. Great for Wisconsin. But so were many, many others. Let's not get too carried away with what he did or didn't do for the franchise.

The defense on that Super Bowl team was unbelievably good. Though 19 games (regular and post season) they gave up 210 points. That is 11 points per game. That is ridiculous. Favre had just a little help with other players on the team.

 

[Moniker]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I find it pretty funny that all of the Favre haters have been just waiting and waiting to say this all season. Pretty sad, actually...

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

that last INT was horrid and inexcusable and definetly cost them the game in the end. but who in their right mind thinks Tjax or Sage even has them in the game with the beating Favre was taking repeatedly? David Carr/Steve McNair/Rocky Balboa would call that a ugly beating. it did prove that u would have to kill Favre to take him out of the game or off the field.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I find it pretty funny that all of the Favre haters have been just waiting and waiting to say this all season. Pretty sad, actually...

How so?

 

[AB in DC]

Favre had a good game...just not good enough.

 

[trader jake]

that last INT was horrid and inexcusable and definetly cost them the game in the end. but who in their right mind thinks Tjax or Sage even has them in the game with the beating Favre was taking repeatedly? David Carr/Steve McNair/Rocky Balboa would call that a ugly beating. it did prove that u would have to kill Favre to take him out of the game or off the field.

True on all counts (good and bad) but who would have thought a Jet team minus Favre would be playing in the AFC Championship game?

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I find it pretty funny that all of the Favre haters have been just waiting and waiting to say this all season. Pretty sad, actually...

How so?

One could also say it was sad that so many Viking fans believed their team could win a Super Bowl. Let alone win one with a known gunslinger that's shot his own team in the foot so many times over the last decade in the postseason.

Favre had a good game...just not good enough.

A good game? He threw two horrible interceptions...the final one cost his team in a major, major way. Give the man credit for being a warrior (nobody deputes Favre has one of the biggest hearts in the history of professional sports) but the number of bone headed throws he's made in the last decade is staggering. Add one more to the list.

 

[zDragon]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I find it pretty funny that all of the Favre haters have been just waiting and waiting to say this all season. Pretty sad, actually...

Yeah, you knew it was eventually coming.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Boy are Packers fans a bunch of jackasses.

 

[FavreCo]

A good game? He threw two horrible interceptions...the final one cost his team in a major, major way. Give the man credit for being a warrior (nobody deputes Favre has one of the biggest hearts in the history of professional sports) but the number of bone headed throws he's made in the last decade is staggering. Add one more to the list.

Pretty sure to 12 men in the huddle cost them the game.

 

[LessThanZero]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I find it pretty funny that all of the Favre haters have been just waiting and waiting to say this all season. Pretty sad, actually...

Heaven is watching Brett Favre choke in the playoffs -- forever. (Favre hater since 1992.)

 

[zDragon]

A good game? He threw two horrible interceptions...the final one cost his team in a major, major way. Give the man credit for being a warrior (nobody deputes Favre has one of the biggest hearts in the history of professional sports) but the number of bone headed throws he's made in the last decade is staggering. Add one more to the list.

Pretty sure to 12 men in the huddle cost them the game.

And the other 4 turn-overs.And the bad Special Teams play to start over-time.

 

[pinequick]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

 

[zDragon]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

Others see the entire game including that. Some only see the one throw and say it cost them the game. For example you blame the pick. Why not blame the 12 men on the field that moved them out of field goal position. That in turn caused him to feel he had to win the game him self.

The fact is it was one giant snowball that ended up consuming the vikings. 5 turn-overs, penalties at a the worst times, bad ST play to start overtime. They just could beat the snowball effect.

 

[FavreCo]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

Others see the entire game including that. Some only see the one throw and say it cost them the game. For example you blame the pick. Why not blame the 12 men on the field that moved them out of field goal position. That in turn caused him to feel he had to win the game him self.

The fact is it was one giant snowball that ended up consuming the vikings. 5 turn-overs, penalties at a the worst times, bad ST play to start overtime. They just could beat the snowball effect.

Doesn't fit his agenda.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

Others see the entire game including that. Some only see the one throw and say it cost them the game. For example you blame the pick. Why not blame the 12 men on the field that moved them out of field goal position. That in turn caused him to feel he had to win the game him self.

The fact is it was one giant snowball that ended up consuming the vikings. 5 turn-overs, penalties at a the worst times, bad ST play to start overtime. They just could beat the snowball effect.

I'm totally with you on this. But in defense of Packer nation, they spent a good portion of Favre's career defending him in these exact situations. This isn't the first time for him. I agree it's not all on him, but it's always been portrayed that way and I suspect that's just what happens when you're Brett Favre.

 

[pinequick]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

Others see the entire game including that. Some only see the one throw and say it cost them the game. For example you blame the pick. Why not blame the 12 men on the field that moved them out of field goal position. That in turn caused him to feel he had to win the game him self.

The fact is it was one giant snowball that ended up consuming the vikings. 5 turn-overs, penalties at a the worst times, bad ST play to start overtime. They just could beat the snowball effect.

??? I don't get that line of reasoning. "Feeling he had to win the game himself" caused him to throw the ball late back over the middle across his body, rather than running for the yardage to get them in field goal range and calling a timeout?Listen, I'm not saying HE lost them the game--there is plenty of blame to go around. But come on guys--his decision on that play cost his team a chance to kick the game-winning field goal and a shot at the Super Bowl. If you dispute that, you're just not in touch with reality...

 

[sho nuff]

Not all on Brett obviously...but admit it was a terrible pass at a crucial time.

Won't say any told you so...no point in it.

He had a pretty good game...with some mistakes...as did the rest of his team.

Also...anyone pointing out it was a bad play is not a Favre hater...HTH.

 

[FavreCo]

??? I don't get that line of reasoning. "Feeling he had to win the game himself" caused him to throw the ball late back over the middle across his body, rather than running for the yardage to get them in field goal range and calling a timeout?Listen, I'm not saying HE lost them the game--there is plenty of blame to go around. But come on guys--his decision on that play cost his team a chance to kick the game-winning field goal and a shot at the Super Bowl. If you dispute that, you're just not in touch with reality...

Peterson fumble inside the 10.Berrian fumble inside the 10.12 men on the field.All before the bad pass and it was a bad pass.

 

[pinequick]

??? I don't get that line of reasoning. "Feeling he had to win the game himself" caused him to throw the ball late back over the middle across his body, rather than running for the yardage to get them in field goal range and calling a timeout?

Listen, I'm not saying HE lost them the game--there is plenty of blame to go around. But come on guys--his decision on that play cost his team a chance to kick the game-winning field goal and a shot at the Super Bowl. If you dispute that, you're just not in touch with reality...

Peterson fumble inside the 10.Berrian fumble inside the 10.

12 men on the field.

All before the bad pass and it was a bad pass.

Agreed (to all you said)...

 

[zDragon]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

Others see the entire game including that. Some only see the one throw and say it cost them the game. For example you blame the pick. Why not blame the 12 men on the field that moved them out of field goal position. That in turn caused him to feel he had to win the game him self.

The fact is it was one giant snowball that ended up consuming the vikings. 5 turn-overs, penalties at a the worst times, bad ST play to start overtime. They just could beat the snowball effect.

??? I don't get that line of reasoning. "Feeling he had to win the game himself" caused him to throw the ball late back over the middle across his body, rather than running for the yardage to get them in field goal range and calling a timeout?Listen, I'm not saying HE lost them the game--there is plenty of blame to go around. But come on guys--his decision on that play cost his team a chance to kick the game-winning field goal and a shot at the Super Bowl. If you dispute that, you're just not in touch with reality...

That's what QB's do. You get knocked out of FG position where you can't run and you try and make the big play. I'm not just saying Favre any QB is put in that situation when that particular sets of events come into play. Sure it cost them -1. As did the penalty right before it and the 1 int and 3 fumbles before that. As did the poor ST coverage after the coin flip.

The Vikings offense had a terrible day and are lucky the defense made them look a lot better than they actually played.

 

[trader jake]

I love the FBG's that call some of us "Favre haters"? The guy is one of my favorite football players of all-time.

Just gotta call it like I see it and last time I checked a Vikings fan started this thread. I responded in post #2 and today Viking fans take their medicine. Favre did EXACTLY what he's done for the better part of the last decade. Just because the state of Minnesota thought this year would be different...that's on them, not us "haters".

 

[zDragon]

Not all on Brett obviously...but admit it was a terrible pass at a crucial time.Won't say any told you so...no point in it.He had a pretty good game...with some mistakes...as did the rest of his team.Also...anyone pointing out it was a bad play is not a Favre hater...HTH.

I've said it was a bad pass. He had a few others he got lucky on.Glad to hear that because you'd be wrong.All I can say is he took a beating and the offense overall was not consistent.Maybe it was showing it age along with it's youth.

 

[pinequick]

The Good Brett giveth, the Bad Brett taketh away.

Vikings fans got the Good Brett a vast majority of the season but us Packer fans knew the Bad Brett would eventually rear his ugly head. We've seen plays like that end of regulation INT (not that the earlier pick was a thing of beauty) so many times over the last decade it comes as so surprise to us Cheeseheads that the state of Minnesota eventually got one Favre Special of their own.

Hate to say we told you so...but we told you so.

I had this EXACT thought when he threw that pass. You knew that it was coming...I don't know how it makes someone a "Favre-hater" to know that Favre, for all his skills, makes some bonehead passes sometimes. Packers fans know this better than most. And in this instance, he made a bonehead pass that cost them a chance to win the game and go to the Super Bowl.

That's not hating... that just the way it was.

Others see the entire game including that. Some only see the one throw and say it cost them the game. For example you blame the pick. Why not blame the 12 men on the field that moved them out of field goal position. That in turn caused him to feel he had to win the game him self.

The fact is it was one giant snowball that ended up consuming the vikings. 5 turn-overs, penalties at a the worst times, bad ST play to start overtime. They just could beat the snowball effect.

??? I don't get that line of reasoning. "Feeling he had to win the game himself" caused him to throw the ball late back over the middle across his body, rather than running for the yardage to get them in field goal range and calling a timeout?Listen, I'm not saying HE lost them the game--there is plenty of blame to go around. But come on guys--his decision on that play cost his team a chance to kick the game-winning field goal and a shot at the Super Bowl. If you dispute that, you're just not in touch with reality...

That's what QB's do. You get knocked out of FG position where you can't run and you try and make the big play. I'm not just saying Favre any QB is put in that situation when that particular sets of events come into play. Sure it cost them -1. As did the penalty right before it and the 1 int and 3 fumbles before that. As did the poor ST coverage after the coin flip.

The Vikings offense had a terrible day and are lucky the defense made them look a lot better than they actually played.

More fodder for conversation than anything else...The Pick

Favre releases the throw at the 40-yard line... how far do you guys thinks he runs if he makes a bee-line for the sideline? Hard to say, but I would wager at least the 34- or 35-yard line.

 

[Jeremy]

I think Packers fans have a right to be a little petty tonight. Vikings fans have reveled in our pain from the moment he became a Viking. They boasted when he played almost mistake free football, as if anyone could have realistically predicted that after years of brilliant, but also reckless football. And then we got "I told you so's" when he didn't have his traditional late season fade.

Finally, FINALLY the Vikings fans got to experience some of the bad that comes with Brett Favre: the trademark late game INT in the playoffs. And now they are the ones who get to make the excuses. And they're the ones who get to experience some offseason drama. It would have been a shame if Vikings fans weren't allowed to experience the entire package.

 

[ookook]

Favre played a pretty good game, but not good enough to overcome the fumbles and weak special teams. But good enough to match New Orleans (a great team, I think) through regular play.

It was a bad pass. All QBs make them at some point. Not sure it was "classic Favre" anymore than last week was against Dallas. Or when Manning or Brady have done the same thing.

What I will say is that everyone discussing how he should have run the ball on that play is pretty willfully ignorant. He was doing his best to walk at that point and none of us have any idea what shape his ankle was in.