Brian Griese (1 Viewer)

[ImTheScientist]

Adam Schefter of the NFL Network reports that Brian Griese will start for the Bears in Week 4 at the Lions.With another disappointing outing from Rex Grossman and the Bears struggling, a change at quarterback seemed likely. Griese is not a sure fire bet to succeed for fantasy owners long term, though he should have a solid day against the Lions defense in Week 4.Related: Rex Grossman

If you need a bye week QB start this week get Griese. He will spark this offense and will end up being a good spot starter. Go get him!What do others think of Griese in this bears offense?

 

[BroadwayG]

Didn't he trip over his dog and break some bone?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Didn't he trip over his dog and break some bone?

That was another former Bronco QB....Mr Mountain Man

 

[ImTheScientist]

Griese gets Detroit this week:

All VY, Brees, Garrard owners should pick him up ASAP. In case of the Brees owners....you may want to start him instead of Brees for awhile.

 

[Peak]

Will a change in QB provide a spark to Mr. Benson and Mr. Berrian? I'm assuming they couldn't perform any worse than they have been lately.

 

[bcr8f]

Didn't he trip over his dog and break some bone?

That was another former Bronco QB....Mr Mountain Man

Didin't Plummer break his hand answering the phone too? Or was that Thomas Jones?

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

 

[ImTheScientist]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[ImTheScientist]

 

[Keith Lewis]

Brian has Greise hair.

 

[ooofffaaa]

Brian has Greise hair.

That's some quality info right there.

 

[greenroom]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

 

[RnR]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

 

[azngangster]

berrian

 

[ImTheScientist]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

He will be better then Lienart. The rest is a toss up. For this week he is a great start.....Im a better QB than Grossman.

 

[AllVolUT]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

If Griese was as advertised, maybe he wouldn't have been cut from Denver, Miami, and TB.

 

[RnR]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

He will be better then Lienart. The rest is a toss up. For this week he is a great start.....Im a better QB than Grossman.

Toss up with Cutler, are you serious?

 

[gump]

Griese is a hard player to put a finger on to me. He played well at times for us in Tampa, but almost always seemed to make a bone-headed play in the 4th quarter to sway the game. Threw a lot of very big picks...most it seemed returned for TDs.

Can't be any worse than Grossman...may even be a nice spark to the Bears O...just wouldn't expect Griese to make a big difference in wins and losses.

 

[BigA]

Brian has Greise hair.

fuzzy wuzzy was a women?

 

[greenroom]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

He will be better then Lienart. The rest is a toss up. For this week he is a great start.....Im a better QB than Grossman.[/b}

Well if you were I would be seeing you on Sundays and not posting on am football message board. Last I checked Grossman started in the Super Bowl how many other QB's have?

 

[BigA]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

He will be better then Lienart. The rest is a toss up. For this week he is a great start.....Im a better QB than Grossman.[/b}

Well if you were I would be seeing you on Sundays and not posting on am football message board. Last I checked Grossman started in the Super Bowl how many other QB's have?

 

[cobalt_27]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

This place looks like such a house of fools anytime news of a journeyman QB gets the starting gig, midseason. Never fails.

 

[perry147]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

If Griese was as advertised, maybe he wouldn't have been cut from Denver, Miami, and TB.

Exactly - Thank you.BG is so bad even crappy teams have cut bait with him. He has had his shot before and failed on numerous occasions. The only think starting BG tells us is that the Bears will target a QB highly in the draft next year.

 

[rascal]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

He will be better then Lienart. The rest is a toss up. For this week he is a great start.....Im a better QB than Grossman.[/b}

Wow...are you serious? Lienart I can understand but Cutler and VY? BTW, for those that consider this a blessing for Berrian prepare to be disappointed. If anything I think this helps Mushin and their TE's. Griese has minimal arm strength.

 

[shredhead]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

Dude lay down the pipe. If Griese was all that he would of been the starter. Griese will fold just like he alway does. Griese is not even the QB that Grossman is. I have seen him ruin the Denver Bronocs he will do the same to the Bears.But on this Board the grass is always greener. Just to bad you will be dissapointed.

He will be better then Lienart. The rest is a toss up. For this week he is a great start.....Im a better QB than Grossman.[/b}

Well if you were I would be seeing you on Sundays and not posting on am football message board. Last I checked Grossman started in the Super Bowl how many other QB's have?

Griese has a ring! Does Grossman?But in all seriousness, I was thinking of picking up Griese or Campbell from Washington. I don't trust Leinart to fill in for me during Kitna's bye. I looked at the scedules for week 6 and now I see Bears vs Vikes and Wash at Green Bay. My best option in week 6 may just be Joey Harrington on Monday night vs Giants. GULP!

 

[Deuce'sWild]

This may hurt Berrian. Grossman locked onto him. Griese may favor Muse?

Anyone have any info on this?

 

[Grigs Allmoon]

Didn't he trip over his dog and break some bone?

That was another former Bronco QB....Mr Mountain Man

 

[rascal]

This may hurt Berrian. Grossman locked onto him. Griese may favor Muse? Anyone have any info on this?

Griese can't throw the deep ball so it will hurt Berrian IMO.I think this helps the TE/RB/Possession WR because he is more of an underneath type thrower and won't beat you deep. Very ball controlled offense is what one should expect IMO, which is exactly what they need. I think this helps Benson to be honest.

 

[OldMilwaukee]

Griese is a fine quarterback, it has been his leadership qualities that have haunted him in the past.

So the question, in my mind, is will he been able to mature into a leadership role with thiis Bears club.

I believe he will.

 

[Doug B]

What the heck happened to Greise in Denver? I owned him in a keeper league, and remember him being a legit QB1 for my squad. Then it all went south for him in a heartbeat. Why was he once decent, and then could never regain that form?

 

[Doug B]

For discussion, I'll post this link to Greise's stats.

He wasn't quite as wonderful as I thought he was for Denver. My leagues don't count off for INTs, so he was serviceable in Denver. He looks, statistically, like he was legitimately excellent for Tampa in 2004.

 

[OU#1]

Quote From CBS:

Brian Griese, QB CHINews: NFL Network reports that the Bears will start Brian Griese, not Rex Grossman at quarterback in Week 4 at Detroit. Grossman has been the Bears' starter for the last two seasons but has come out of the gate poorly, throwing one touchdown and six interceptions. Analysis: Griese immediately becomes a sleeper for Week 4 Fantasy play thanks to his matchup against the weak Lions secondary. The veteran from Michigan is a strong-armed passer who plays well behind a reliable offensive line but is horribly unreliable when skittish. Owners who had Grossman on staff should drop him for Griese as soon as possible.

So they claim he has a strong arm but others here claim he will only throw short because he has a weak arm.Other posts here in the Shark Pool say the Chicago O-Line is hurting this year, but CBS claims the O-Line is "reliable".Typical CBS bologna? Or highly opinionated FBG's?I think I'm just going to stay away from any CHI QB until somebody shows consitency. If I miss the boat so be it.

 

[RBM]

Griese will be asked to just keep the chains moving and dont turn it over.

Dont expect many big plays. I would definitely think this favors Muhammed and not Berrian

 

[sho nuff]

Is he better than Lienart, Cutler and Garrard from here on out?

I think you are high.

 

[KellysHeroes]

200 yds and a TD for BG.... hes not going to be asked to do anything.

Guys... if Griese was good; he would of been playing since day one.

 

[Mr. Yuk]

For discussion, I'll post this link to Greise's stats.

He wasn't quite as wonderful as I thought he was for Denver. My leagues don't count off for INTs, so he was serviceable in Denver. He looks, statistically, like he was legitimately excellent for Tampa in 2004.

IIRC he was playing very well leading an upstart Tampa Bay squad in 2004, when an injury ended his season, and that looks like the last time he's really played much. Extrapolating those 2004 numbers in 11 games to a full season, you get over 3800 yards, 29tds, 16 ints. Not bad numbers at all. I can't even name a wide reciever from that team either. I think it might have be michael clayton's one good year. ETA:

Tim Brown | 15 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 24 200 8.3 1 |

| Michael Clayton | 16 | 5 30 6.0 0 | 80 1193 14.9 7 |

| Joey Galloway | 10 | 2 19 9.5 0 | 33 416 12.6 5 |

| Joe Jurevicius | 10 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 27 333 12.3 2 |

| Charles Lee | 7 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 15 207 13.8 0 |

 

[meeka]

200 yds and a TD for BG.... hes not going to be asked to do anything.Guys... if Griese was good; he would of been playing since day one.

It is against Detroit. Big numbers are there to be had. Detroit will pass early and often, I think even Greise could go for 250-300 yards and 2 or 3 scores.

 

[mcjc4]

200 yds and a TD for BG.... hes not going to be asked to do anything.Guys... if Griese was good; he would of been playing since day one.

It is against Detroit. Big numbers are there to be had. Detroit will pass early and often, I think even Greise could go for 250-300 yards and 2 or 3 scores.

I agree. They may not want him to throw for 300, but if Detroit plays wide open as usual, they may have no choice but to throw often and early. If Harris and Vasher and Briggs are limited the defense will be well below their already low standards this year.

 

[MSULions]

This thread is hilarious. Griese sucks. He sucked in Denver, he had one decent year in Tampa but wasn't that great, and he sucked in Miami. He's had one season where he had a positive TD to INT ratio. Both Miami and Tampa, who didn't have much at QB to brag about, didn't think he was worth keeping around. He couldn't even beat out Jay Fiedler for the job in Miami.

The backup QB is always the most popular player on a football team, until he actually plays.

 

[TommyGilmore]

What the heck happened to Greise in Denver? I owned him in a keeper league, and remember him being a legit QB1 for my squad. Then it all went south for him in a heartbeat. Why was he once decent, and then could never regain that form?

Alcohol.

 

[TommyGilmore]

This thread is hilarious. Griese sucks. He sucked in Denver, he had one decent year in Tampa but wasn't that great, and he sucked in Miami. He's had one season where he had a positive TD to INT ratio.

Wrong. Please check your facts, thanks.

 

[Reservoir Dog]

Some of you are missing the point. No one said he was Tom Brady....but he is better than Rex Grossman, and he is facing the terrible Lions D this week.

I think he's a fantastic play this week.

 

[rckstr]

Bring back ORTON!!! Somehow, that guy reminded me a little bit like Jim McMahon.

Griese is a journeyman, he's there to protect the football, which is what Grossman hasn't done so far.

 

[notapplicable]

I have Kitna this week. Should I pick up Griese?

 

[Craig]

If Griese sucks and turns out to be just as horrible as Rex, Do you think Grossman gets his job back in a few weeks or do Lovie and the staff try and get new blood at the QB position ?

 

[kensat30]

Brian Griese is going to make Bernard Berrian's value skyrocket. This guy should have been starting week 1 of last year. Grossman can't hold Griese's jock.

 

[gump]

IIRC he was playing very well leading an upstart Tampa Bay squad in 2004, when an injury ended his season, and that looks like the last time he's really played much. Extrapolating those 2004 numbers in 11 games to a full season, you get over 3800 yards, 29tds, 16 ints. Not bad numbers at all. I can't even name a wide reciever from that team either. I think it might have be michael clayton's one good year.

He did look pretty good in '04, after taking over for Brad Johnson. Still threw 12 INT in 11 games.Then in '05, he looked worse. That's when he got hurt and Chris Simms took over and led the team to the playoffs. 7 TDs and 7 INTs with a 79 rating after about 6 games.

 

[RTB1]

This thread is hilarious. Griese sucks. He sucked in Denver, he had one decent year in Tampa but wasn't that great, and he sucked in Miami. He's had one season where he had a positive TD to INT ratio. Both Miami and Tampa, who didn't have much at QB to brag about, didn't think he was worth keeping around. He couldn't even beat out Jay Fiedler for the job in Miami.

The backup QB is always the most popular player on a football team, until he actually plays.

He's had three seasons with positive TD to INT ratio, and has an overall positive ratio for his career of 104 TDs to 80 INTsSTATS

His stats are good. Not great, but good.

He was run out of Denver because he wasn't Elway, in physical or leadership ability. Few are. Turnovers admittedly didn't help him; the same thing that got Jake run out of Denver.

Miami has been a train wreck for QBs since Marino left, and for coaches since Johnson left.

Played well in Tampa, but was unwilling to come back at the salary they were offering.

Went to Chicago, where nearly all "experts" and "pundits" thought he had a legit shot at starting, either due to Rex's inexperience, injury history, or poor play. Griese CLEARLY outplayed Rex in the 2006 preseason. Lovie got a hard on for Rex and Rex played spectacularly well early in the 2006 season, protecting him from being benched.

Griese played well again this preseason.

I expect him to be a serviceable to good starter in fantasy terms. As someone counting on Brees, and with the QB crop looking very thin in my league, a combo of Pennington and Griese is all I have to fall back on.

 

[Reservoir Dog]

This thread is hilarious. Griese sucks. He sucked in Denver, he had one decent year in Tampa but wasn't that great, and he sucked in Miami. He's had one season where he had a positive TD to INT ratio. Both Miami and Tampa, who didn't have much at QB to brag about, didn't think he was worth keeping around. He couldn't even beat out Jay Fiedler for the job in Miami.

The backup QB is always the most popular player on a football team, until he actually plays.

He's had three seasons with positive TD to INT ratio, and has an overall positive ratio for his career of 104 TDs to 80 INTsSTATS

His stats are good. Not great, but good.

He was run out of Denver because he wasn't Elway, in physical or leadership ability. Few are. Turnovers admittedly didn't help him; the same thing that got Jake run out of Denver.

Miami has been a train wreck for QBs since Marino left, and for coaches since Johnson left.

Played well in Tampa, but was unwilling to come back at the salary they were offering.

Went to Chicago, where nearly all "experts" and "pundits" thought he had a legit shot at starting, either due to Rex's inexperience, injury history, or poor play. Griese CLEARLY outplayed Rex in the 2006 offseason. Lovie got a hard on for Rex and Rex played spectacularly well early in the 2006 season, protecting him from being benched.

Griese played well again this preseason.

I expect him to be a serviceable to good starter in fantasy terms. As someone counting on Brees, and with the QB crop looking very thin in my league, a combo of Pennington and Griese is all I have to fall back on.

outstanding post, thanks