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Broncos signed RB Dayne (1 Viewer)

If every other Denver running back somehow got injured before the draft, Dayne would be going in the second round of most drafts. Even he would be a 1,200+ yard, 10+ TD back as a full season featured back in Denver's system.

My reservation about Dayne has nothing to do with his ability. The problem is that Denver has a stable of running backs, none of which is the clear cut starter. I'm only sure of one thing in that offense; one running back will compile 1,000 yards in 2005. Problem is, it could be (in no particular order) Bell, Griffin, Anderson, Dayne, some relatively unknown already on their roster (it's happened 3 times in recent history), a free agent yet to be signed by Denver, or a running back they pick up in the draft (yes, Shanahan will draft a running back).

I just can't see spending an early round pick on ANY of Denver's running backs. Even with Bell, the most likely start in Denver (IMO), there is a huge risk in drafting him.
There isn't any doubt who the starter is going into 2005. It's Bell and everyone already knows that. The question is, who is #2? My guess is that it is Mike Anderson if he's on the team this fall, if not, it's Griffin. I bet Dayne will be cut before the season starts. I also think they draft Moats in the 4th round, who could become the #2 real quick.
 
I also think they draft Moats in the 4th round, who could become the #2 real quick.
You have probably never seen Moats play. The only reason you say Moats is because somewhere earlier this off-season it was reported Denver liked Moats (don't put too much stock into that, just a hint). Moats is very Griffin-like. You might want to quit regurgitating stuff you read elsewhere as your opinions.
 
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If every other Denver running back somehow got injured before the draft, Dayne would be going in the second round of most drafts.  Even he would be a 1,200+ yard, 10+ TD back as a full season featured back in Denver's system.

My reservation about Dayne has nothing to do with his ability.  The problem is that Denver has a stable of running backs, none of which is the clear cut starter.  I'm only sure of one thing in that offense; one running back will compile 1,000 yards in 2005.  Problem is, it could be (in no particular order) Bell, Griffin, Anderson, Dayne, some relatively unknown already on their roster (it's happened 3 times in recent history), a free agent yet to be signed by Denver, or a running back they pick up in the draft (yes, Shanahan will draft a running back).

I just can't see spending an early round pick on ANY of Denver's running backs.  Even with Bell, the most likely start in Denver (IMO), there is a huge risk in drafting him.
There isn't any doubt who the starter is going into 2005. It's Bell and everyone already knows that. The question is, who is #2? My guess is that it is Mike Anderson if he's on the team this fall, if not, it's Griffin. I bet Dayne will be cut before the season starts. I also think they draft Moats in the 4th round, who could become the #2 real quick.
Mike Anderson is 32 and clearly not the RB he was in 2000. He's too old, injury-prone and I don't think he'll be back with the Broncos.Griffin showed he's a one game wonder and is not a guy that Shanahan will want to backup Bell.

They could draft a RB but at this point Dayne would be the #2. He may lose the the backup job to a rookie but I don't know how you could think Anderson or Griffin will be the #2. I think your dislike of Dayne is blinding you to any value he has.

We've seen year after year that whoever starts for the Broncos will be productive and Bell has had some injury issues. Dayne is the only RB the Broncos have RIGHT NOW capable of carrying the load if Bell is injured. I don't understand why you wouldn't draft Dayne late in a draft just in case the Broncos don't draft a RB.

 
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I think the reason Skeletor traded away Drougns is because he knows the outstanding depth at rb in this years draft class will allow him to use a 3rd to 5th round pick on a rookie rb that will fit the system.Dayne is a cheap slot filler for camp and a player to practice against for when the Broncos play against a big Rb.

 
I also think they draft Moats in the 4th round, who could become the #2 real quick.
You have probably never seen Moats play. The only reason you say Moats is because somewhere earlier this off-season it was reported Denver liked Moats (don't put too much stock into that, just a hint). Moats is very Griffin-like. You might want to quit regurgitating stuff you read elsewhere as your opinions.
I pretty much think it is common knowledge on this board regarding Denver's interest in Moats. I simply implied they would take him in the 4th. Now go take a deep breath through your nose and exhale through your ####.
 
If you think the trading away Droughns was a sign that Bell is the clear starter, think again. I am not equating Dayne to Droughns or Bell, but I'm curious how he will do in Shanahan's system. I've never been high on this guys, but even his fat ### should be able to get through the zone blockings.

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The interesting comment is "think again". I don't get it. Are you suggesting that Dayne will be the starter? That maybe he's brought in to "push" Bell? Maybe he there will be a RBBC? So. they bring in Dayne and now people to should feel differently that maybe Bell will not be the starter?Someone help me on this. What am I missing? I'm not trying to be funny but what am I missing? I have no doubt that Dayne "could" have success in the Denver system and when he gets his carries he will be effective. But in no way can I see him actually challenging Bell for the starters role. He is simply a body to replace Droughns. Nothing else. In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.

 
It's OFFICIAL...Shanahan has lost his freaking mind.
I was thinking the same thing. But clearly some others that have posted think he could "challenge" Bell. I don't even know what to say about that. I'm at a loss for words.
 
I really believe this is decent news for Tatum Bell..  Assuming that T.Bell has the goods, this is a perfect situation, Ron Dayne would be OK behind that line but if Bell is as good as we all hope than Dayne doesn't see the field
This is good news for Tatum Bell. Anyone who follows the Broncos closely knows that Shanahan believes in Bell and fully intends for him to be the "stud buffalo" next year. Shanahan said last year that Bell can be an 1800 yard rusher. I think he'll certainly test his prediction next year. The Ron Dayne signing is solid as he'll provide a healthy backup...Mike Anderson is aging and coming back from injury, I think Mike Anderson is on the way out. I don't see Denver drafting a RB any earlier than the 6th round. My predictions are that Denver will be looking to go S, CB, WR on day one.
I didn't realize that Shanny said he could gain 1800. Is it possible? Yes. Will it happen? Not likely. I do feel however that Bell will be top 5 next year. 1800? Let the Bell toll for 1800!
 
In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.
Totally agree FM.A body for training camp (and possible replacement for Anderson), unless there are major injuries this guy will see the field as much as Hearst did.

 
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In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.
Totally agree FM.A body for training camp (and possible replacement for Anderson), unless there are major injuries this guy will see the field as much as Hearst did.
The problem is you just never know what will happen in Denver. You just can't predict anthing there. R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last year!!!!! I will repeat, R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last season!!! I mean Griffin was the starter, Bell was there, Anderson, and then way down in the gutter was Droughns much like Dayne will be. My point is anything is possible in Denver. Dayne could be one T. Bell injury away from running for 1000 yds next season. You can laugh all you want, but I quit trying to predict anything with Shanny and Denver.
 
In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.
Totally agree FM.A body for training camp (and possible replacement for Anderson), unless there are major injuries this guy will see the field as much as Hearst did.
The problem is you just never know what will happen in Denver. You just can't predict anthing there. R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last year!!!!! I will repeat, R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last season!!! I mean Griffin was the starter, Bell was there, Anderson, and then way down in the gutter was Droughns much like Dayne will be. My point is anything is possible in Denver. Dayne could be one T. Bell injury away from running for 1000 yds next season. You can laugh all you want, but I quit trying to predict anything with Shanny and Denver.
Either you aren't reading all the posts or you just refuse to believe what's happened in Denver. Predicting Shanny is the easiest part. He does what he says he's going to do. Predicting injury is another issue. As for Dayne, sure, if the stars align just right he could end up rushing for 1000. But what are the odds? Might as well buy a lottery ticket.
 
Can't believe there are 4 pages of posts regarding Dayne. I equate this move with that of Pat's signing Terrell, taking a "talent" off the scrap heap to see if they can work some of their magic. Dayne is a good RB as long as no one touches him, when he's touched he goes down. That might work well in Denver though considering their blocking. Dayne will be lucky to get more than 35 carries this year (assuming no major injury to Bell) if he even makes the team.

 
In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.
Totally agree FM.A body for training camp (and possible replacement for Anderson), unless there are major injuries this guy will see the field as much as Hearst did.
The problem is you just never know what will happen in Denver. You just can't predict anthing there. R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last year!!!!! I will repeat, R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last season!!! I mean Griffin was the starter, Bell was there, Anderson, and then way down in the gutter was Droughns much like Dayne will be. My point is anything is possible in Denver. Dayne could be one T. Bell injury away from running for 1000 yds next season. You can laugh all you want, but I quit trying to predict anything with Shanny and Denver.
Either you aren't reading all the posts or you just refuse to believe what's happened in Denver. Predicting Shanny is the easiest part. He does what he says he's going to do. Predicting injury is another issue. As for Dayne, sure, if the stars align just right he could end up rushing for 1000. But what are the odds? Might as well buy a lottery ticket.
I am not saying it will happen. But if you had the lottery ticket with Droughns on it last year you would be rich. Obviously Dayne should not be a hot commodity but if there is any place that Dayne could go and succeed it is Denver. How is this so confusing to some of you??? If he makes the roster he is an injury away from producing. I am not high on Dayne by any means but to cast him off as a nobody is not a smart fantasy move especially if you are a Bell owner. Obviously you have to take all things into consideration but what I am saying is you can't predict things like Droughns running for 1000 yds last season and Anderson and Gary so those of you casting off Dayne so quickly or just hating him for the sake of hating.
 
In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.
Totally agree FM.A body for training camp (and possible replacement for Anderson), unless there are major injuries this guy will see the field as much as Hearst did.
The problem is you just never know what will happen in Denver. You just can't predict anthing there. R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last year!!!!! I will repeat, R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last season!!! I mean Griffin was the starter, Bell was there, Anderson, and then way down in the gutter was Droughns much like Dayne will be. My point is anything is possible in Denver. Dayne could be one T. Bell injury away from running for 1000 yds next season. You can laugh all you want, but I quit trying to predict anything with Shanny and Denver.
Either you aren't reading all the posts or you just refuse to believe what's happened in Denver. Predicting Shanny is the easiest part. He does what he says he's going to do. Predicting injury is another issue. As for Dayne, sure, if the stars align just right he could end up rushing for 1000. But what are the odds? Might as well buy a lottery ticket.
I am not saying it will happen. But if you had the lottery ticket with Droughns on it last year you would be rich. Obviously Dayne should not be a hot commodity but if there is any place that Dayne could go and succeed it is Denver. How is this so confusing to some of you??? If he makes the roster he is an injury away from producing. I am not high on Dayne by any means but to cast him off as a nobody is not a smart fantasy move especially if you are a Bell owner. Obviously you have to take all things into consideration but what I am saying is you can't predict things like Droughns running for 1000 yds last season and Anderson and Gary so those of you casting off Dayne so quickly or just hating him for the sake of hating.
You may be taking my disdain for Dayne to far. As I did say before, yes he could have success in Denver. But, outside of multiple injuries (like what happened to Droughns last year) it isn't going to happen. The pecking order will be:Bell

Griffin

Anderson

Dayne

That's alot of injuries to get through and last year was an anomaly even by Denver's injury record.

 
In fact, he may not even be on the roster when Sept rolls around.
Totally agree FM.A body for training camp (and possible replacement for Anderson), unless there are major injuries this guy will see the field as much as Hearst did.
The problem is you just never know what will happen in Denver. You just can't predict anthing there. R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last year!!!!! I will repeat, R. Droughns ran for 1000 yds last season!!! I mean Griffin was the starter, Bell was there, Anderson, and then way down in the gutter was Droughns much like Dayne will be. My point is anything is possible in Denver. Dayne could be one T. Bell injury away from running for 1000 yds next season. You can laugh all you want, but I quit trying to predict anything with Shanny and Denver.
Either you aren't reading all the posts or you just refuse to believe what's happened in Denver. Predicting Shanny is the easiest part. He does what he says he's going to do. Predicting injury is another issue. As for Dayne, sure, if the stars align just right he could end up rushing for 1000. But what are the odds? Might as well buy a lottery ticket.
I am not saying it will happen. But if you had the lottery ticket with Droughns on it last year you would be rich. Obviously Dayne should not be a hot commodity but if there is any place that Dayne could go and succeed it is Denver. How is this so confusing to some of you??? If he makes the roster he is an injury away from producing. I am not high on Dayne by any means but to cast him off as a nobody is not a smart fantasy move especially if you are a Bell owner. Obviously you have to take all things into consideration but what I am saying is you can't predict things like Droughns running for 1000 yds last season and Anderson and Gary so those of you casting off Dayne so quickly or just hating him for the sake of hating.
You may be taking my disdain for Dayne to far. As I did say before, yes he could have success in Denver. But, outside of multiple injuries (like what happened to Droughns last year) it isn't going to happen. The pecking order will be:Bell

Griffin

Anderson

Dayne

That's alot of injuries to get through and last year was an anomaly even by Denver's injury record.
Yes, obviously if that is what you think the pecking order is then I can see why you have no hope for Dayne. This is where no one knows who will be the primary back up to Bell. I read that Anderson is a FA and I know Griffin is coming off of a torn ACL, not the best f'ball injury to come back from. I mean like many in here we don't know who will be the back up to Bell and who you can handcuff him with. Add a RB that maybe Denver drafts and it becomes even more messed up. Until Dayne is cut or does not recieve any touches as a Bronco his name will have to be considered by Bell owners. I know it hurts having to say that or hear it but who knows? I don't know and unless you are Shanny or a part of Broncos management you don't know either. We can assume the pecking order but that is all it is an assumption.
 
I'm fairly certain Anderson is NOT a FA, as may have been mentioned before.As for Dayne, yes you can't totally discount him, but it will take a confluence of factors (injuries) for him to see a large number of carries. Sure it happened last year with Droughns, but I wouldn't go spending any sort of meaningful draft pick to get Dayne (if he even makes the roster).Good call about Griffin though - he's only had about six months of rehab thus far coming off a torn ACL. I don't see him as a major factor.

 
Bronco fan here and I'm puzzled by this signing.I was not able to see Dayne run early last year except for clips on SportsCenter. Was that preseason or early season? I remember he looked explosive and decisive, something I hadn't seen from him before. What was the deal?Sure, he lost weight, but why the decisiveness? Did Tiki just do so well that Dayne never saw the field, or did Dayne fall off again?FWIW, when this news broke in Colorado, I thought "camp body," and I don't believe he'll be on the roster for week 1. But, if those clips I saw early last year are where he is, then he could be a good #2 for Denver.

 
I was not able to see Dayne run early last year except for clips on SportsCenter.  Was that preseason or early season?  I remember he looked explosive and decisive, something I hadn't seen from him before.  What was the deal.
From what I recall, Coughlin indeed had hopes that Dayne would finally get back to the thunder to Tiki's lightning, but he failed miserably a couple of times early on in short yardage situations. Even worse, I recall him fumbling the ball at the goal line on a 1 yard run.Soon thereafter, it became Tiki's show, and Mike Cloud even assumed Dayne's short yardage duties at times.

He's just not that good - he tries to be a shifty back when he's got the build for a power runner.

 
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He wasn't brought in to replace R. Droughns. Drougns was slated to play FB next year and Dayne is not a FB.All we really know is that all of the Denver RB's from last year were dinged up at some point in the year, so he's simply adding depth for training camp. If Dayne outplays all the other guys there then he very well could be the next 1000 yard Denver RB. I don't think it's a lock that Bell gets the starting position just because he had a few good games at the end of the season. I look for the Broncos to add more depth during the draft which will muddy the picture even more. But if Bell can stay healthy during training camp and can perform equal to or above the other RB's (which he should be able to do) then he will be the starter next year.

 
He wasn't brought in to replace R. Droughns. Drougns was slated to play FB next year and Dayne is not a FB.

All we really know is that all of the Denver RB's from last year were dinged up at some point in the year, so he's simply adding depth for training camp. If Dayne outplays all the other guys there then he very well could be the next 1000 yard Denver RB. I don't think it's a lock that Bell gets the starting position just because he had a few good games at the end of the season. I look for the Broncos to add more depth during the draft which will muddy the picture even more. But if Bell can stay healthy during training camp and can perform equal to or above the other RB's (which he should be able to do) then he will be the starter next year.
Barring injury, Bell will be the starter next year even if he does get out performed at camp. Bell is the best back on the Bronco's team next year and Shanny will give him the chance at the start of the year.
 
I have Bell in MOX 1 and could not bring myself to pickup Dayne. I'm embarrassed to have even thought about picking him up.
Honestly, I don't think picking up Dayne if you are a Bell owner is a bad idea. I mean anything can happen in a Den backfield and Bell has been prone to injury in the past. Dayne would e a very nice fill in not just for Den, but fantasy teams as well I think.
I know you are right, but for me personally, it's a matter of principle. I've always thought Dayne was puke and I still think he is puke. I'd be a hypocrite to pickup Ron Dayne. I had my chance to before he was picked up, but decided against it.
FWIW, Puke had 11 carries for 56 yards and 2 catches for 14 yards tonight.
 
I have Bell in MOX 1 and could not bring myself to pickup Dayne.  I'm embarrassed to have even thought about picking him up.
Honestly, I don't think picking up Dayne if you are a Bell owner is a bad idea. I mean anything can happen in a Den backfield and Bell has been prone to injury in the past. Dayne would e a very nice fill in not just for Den, but fantasy teams as well I think.
I know you are right, but for me personally, it's a matter of principle. I've always thought Dayne was puke and I still think he is puke. I'd be a hypocrite to pickup Ron Dayne. I had my chance to before he was picked up, but decided against it.
FWIW, Puke had 11 carries for 56 yards and 2 catches for 14 yards tonight.
and 11 for 118 and 2 TDs in the 1st preseason game last year
 
FWIW, Puke had 11 carries for 56 yards and 2 catches for 14 yards tonight.
And both catches were magnificent efforts.I know its preseason, but Dayne looked decisive, fast to the hole, read & made the proper cut, and he gained yards after contact, including one play where he bowled over 3 defenders & gained an extra 3-4 yards after the contact - he went down when 2 more defenders arrived and joined the fray.Make of it what you will, but he looked good.
 
FWIW, Puke had 11 carries for 56 yards and 2 catches for 14 yards  tonight.
And both catches were magnificent efforts.I know its preseason, but Dayne looked decisive, fast to the hole, read & made the proper cut, and he gained yards after contact, including one play where he bowled over 3 defenders & gained an extra 3-4 yards after the contact - he went down when 2 more defenders arrived and joined the fray.

Make of it what you will, but he looked good.
Did you hear that???? It sounds like an Echo.... Wasn't this the same crap we heard last year?? Dayne is going to make believers out of you. He ran so well on the teams 3rd string D in a meaningless game.. Do people stir crap up just to do it?? :rant:
 
Did you hear that????   It sounds like an Echo....  Wasn't this the same crap we heard last year??  Dayne is going to make believers out of you.  He ran so well on the teams 3rd string D in a meaningless game..  Do people stir crap up just to do it??  :rant:
Would you prefer that I lie to ease your feelings & boost your self esteem?Dayne ran with purpose with 2nd & 3rd stringers playing against 2nd & 3rd stringers. His catches were superb - one where the ball was thrown well behind him & one where the ball was well overthrown.

Like I said, take it for what it is worth, which to you is worth nothing. Dayne looked the better of the 3 main DEN RBs tonight. Anderson was running right into the arms of the DL repeatedly & Bell couldn't get his burst going at all and looked tentative.

Post edit - and I want to see Bell win the job. I think he brings the most to the table.

 
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Did you hear that????   It sounds like an Echo....  Wasn't this the same crap we heard last year??  Dayne is going to make believers out of you.  He ran so well on the teams 3rd string D in a meaningless game..  Do people stir crap up just to do it??  :rant:
Would you prefer that I lie to ease your feelings & boost your self esteem?Dayne ran with purpose with 2nd & 3rd stringers playing against 2nd & 3rd stringers. His catches were superb - one where the ball was thrown well behind him & one where the ball was well overthrown.

Like I said, take it for what it is worth, which to you is worth nothing. Dayne looked the better of the 3 main DEN RBs tonight. Anderson was running right into the arms of the DL repeatedly & Bell couldn't get his burst going at all and looked tentative.

Post edit - and I want to see Bell win the job. I think he brings the most to the table.
No but take the game for what its worth. You run on a teams backup or soon to be cut guys you look like a star.. If Bell was the spot Dayne was don't you think he would excel too?? We all know what Dayne turns into when it becomes real.. I just think its only a matter of time for Bell.. He just needs to prove to shanny he is ready.. Something I hope clicks in soon..
 
No but take the game for what its worth. You run on a teams backup or soon to be cut guys you look like a star.. If Bell was the spot Dayne was don't you think he would excel too?? We all know what Dayne turns into when it becomes real.. I just think its only a matter of time for Bell.. He just needs to prove to shanny he is ready.. Something I hope clicks in soon..
Bell ran with the same guys on O & against the same guys on D as Dayne did for part of the game. He didn't excel by any means in that situation.Again - just reporting what I saw. Not pimping Dayne or trying to bury Bell. But tonight - for this one night - Dayne was the best DEN RB on the field.
 
As previously stated, take it for what it's worth (this is Ron Dayne we're talking about and it was preseason 2nd and 3rd string), but I watched the whole game and want to add to this...- Dayne's catches were extremely good. On one, he hade a one handed tip to himself type grab coming out of the backfield and then secured the ball and burst up field without missing step.- He showed really good burst and balance. He was hitting the hole hard, and at the correct time, and getting good yards after contact.- He and Bell were playing with the same O and against the same D for a good portion of the time, and Dayne looked much better. Bell was rather ineffective. He showed his speed, but his timing was off and he was too easily tackled.- Denver's running offense is similar to what Dayne ran in at Wisconsin, one cut and go. NY's offense had Dayne making multiple cuts and reads on the line, not his strength. Denver's offense could give Dayne a chance to realize the potential he showed coming out of college.Obviously the next few preseason games will allow for a much better read on the Denver RB situation, and chances are this turns out to be only hype from one good showing, but based purely on this showing I'd say (in the short term at least) the risk factor with Bell's ADP definitely increases and Dayne's potential to be a late round sleeper goes way up.

 

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