Broncos want Calvin Johnson (1 Viewer)

[Couch Potato]

Moot point. CJ won't make it past Oakland or the team they trade with.

What has occurred to me is that this rumor may be Shanny's way of goading Al Davis into taking CJ, which he may believe (and I do believe) would be a stupid move for a team that has as many needs as Oakland does.

Davis has been involved in drafts forever. He'll make his decisions based on what the thinks will make his team better, not anything Shanahan is saying or doing. To think there's all this intrigue going on between those two guys is just nonsense.

Sure, I mean what you see is what you get with Allen, right?

I just enjoyed calling something you had to say nonsense Redman. Who is Allen? Is that Al's name? I always thought it was Alvin.

I originally typed "Albert" before I looked it up and found Wiki saying his name was Allen. As for the nonsense crack, get in line.

Yup, Wikipedia says Allen... I've thought it was Alvin for 40 years. Huh. I learned my new thing for today, so I can be stooopid regarding everything else the rest of the day. Oh, I also learned he's a yankee doodle dandy -- born on the 4th of July.What was this thread about again? Oh yeah... sorry folks. *goners*

 

[QUEZILLA]

What concerns me is he connections between all the teams that are mentioned in the CJ sweepstakes. Denver and Tampa have already pulled off one trade this off-season. Marinelli has friends in Tampa, and there is the obvious connections between TB, and Oak. Then you hear teams like Atl. surface, and you wonder what kind of relationship he has with Marinelli. Maybe a few teams don't want him to fall to #2. This week should be fun

 

[NoFBinLA]

What concerns me is he connections between all the teams that are mentioned in the CJ sweepstakes. Denver and Tampa have already pulled off one trade this off-season. Marinelli has friends in Tampa, and there is the obvious connections between TB, and Oak. Then you hear teams like Atl. surface, and you wonder what kind of relationship he has with Marinelli. Maybe a few teams don't want him to fall to #2. This week should be fun :X

I thought TB and OAK disliked each other since Grudene punked OAK in the SB.At that point Iwould figure that pairing at least is unlikely.

 

[cstu]

1) PFT is now "confirming" this story2) Dropping to #21 isn't that big a deal. If the Lions really like a top 15 player they can always trade back up and get their guy. The Skins did this years ago after trading down with the Saints...and they ended up getting Champ Bailey.

Trading up should not be too hard. There are more teams wanting to trade down that up. The Redskins could be a good candidate for the Redskins to trade up. And the Redskins have shown that they like to wheel and deal and have no problems getting into three way trades.

Unless the Redskins are dealing players (unlikely) I don't think they've got the goods to trade up.

I guess I wasn't clear. If the Lions trade down to No. 21, they should have no problems finding a trading partner to get back up. The Redskins could be a good candidate. I was trying to figure out if the Redskins would be happy at No. 21. They may be, since there is supposed to be good depth at DE in the draft.

No need to trade up - the player at #21 will instantly become the Lions' best player.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

My take is that Shanahan doesn't want to face CJ twice a year every year.

He's banking that the Raiders don't want to take CJ and is trying to get other teams, likely an NFC team, to swing a trade with the Raiders so he's at least in another division if not another conference.

He's further thinking the Raiders feel the same way. If they knew or thought that Denver was going to get CJ, they'd want to swing a deal with someone else so that he doesn't go to Denver.

Brilliant!

 

[moleculo]

I read somewhere (either here or one of the Denver papers) that Shanny guards his pre-draft preferences extremely closely, to the point he doesn't even interview the player he covets the most. Apparently, he never interviewed Cutler, for example, and I'd believe it because the Denver #1 is never predictable.

If that's the case, it's pretty clear that CJ will not be a Bronco.

 

[chook]

My take is that Shanahan doesn't want to face CJ twice a year every year. He's banking that the Raiders don't want to take CJ and is trying to get other teams, likely an NFC team, to swing a trade with the Raiders so he's at least in another division if not another conference.He's further thinking the Raiders feel the same way. If they knew or thought that Denver was going to get CJ, they'd want to swing a deal with someone else so that he doesn't go to Denver.Brilliant!

The Chiefs moving up to #2 to spite both the Raiders & the Broncos while getting their WR = gold.Not a KC fan, just love people pissing others off for the sake of it.But CJ going to Denver = for Cutler owners.

 

[LeonWashington29]

The receiving crew would be deadly if they got CJ.

 

[Two Deep]

Why would Denver mortgage the draft and the future only to watch the Raiders draft Johnson number one. You can bet your butt that if I was Al davis if the Broncos tradedup I would pick whoever they wanted for spite.

 

[Couch Potato]

Why would Denver mortgage the draft and the future only to watch the Raiders draft Johnson number one. You can bet your butt that if I was Al davis if the Broncos tradedup I would pick whoever they wanted for spite.

It was noted in the article that any trade would be contingent on CJ still being there at #2. They wouldn't do the deal until after OAK picked.

 

[duaneok66]

It would still be a dumb deal for the Lions . . . you get two low 1st rounders, a second a third . . . with Millen drafting, that could add up to one big pile of crap . . . take CJ and be set at WR . . .

 

[Chaos Commish]

It would still be a dumb deal for the Lions . . . you get two low 1st rounders, a second a third . . . with Millen drafting, that could add up to one big pile of crap . . . take CJ and be set at WR . . .

Perhaps the biggest drawback to not firing Millen is the hesitancy to draft the best player because he's a WR.

 

[grind]

I personally think the Lions would need more to fall that far back in this draft. If the Lions do this deal, my thought is that they are hoping Jamal Anderson falls that far.

 

[Bonzai]

I read somewhere (either here or one of the Denver papers) that Shanny guards his pre-draft preferences extremely closely, to the point he doesn't even interview the player he covets the most. Apparently, he never interviewed Cutler, for example, and I'd believe it because the Denver #1 is never predictable.If that's the case, it's pretty clear that CJ will not be a Bronco.

thats my take as well.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

From PFT:

POSTED 4:56 p.m. EDT, April 23, 2007

BRONCOS WANT JOHNSON

A reader tells us that there's a rumor being reported on 950 AM in Denver that the Broncos are trying to make a play for the No. 2 overall pick in the draft, in an effort to land receiver Calvin Johnson.

I read somewhere (either here or one of the Denver papers) that Shanny guards his pre-draft preferences extremely closely, to the point he doesn't even interview the player he covets the most. Apparently, he never interviewed Cutler, for example, and I'd believe it because the Denver #1 is never predictable.

If that's the case, it's pretty clear that CJ will not be a Bronco.

That is correct, Shanny never tips his hand, and this trade is unlikely to happen. Are the Broncos wanting to move up? Yes, but I feel that it's to address the LB position.

 

[Garts]

Denver wants Cal Johnson...is this a ploy to motivate David Terrell?

 

[tommyGunZ]

The Lions may be forced to draft Johnson.

They should draft Johnson. If they don't, Millen should be fired. You can't get gun shy because of a couple bad picks.If Millen is unwilling to make the pick b/c of the flak he'll get, Detroit needs a new GM who isn't scared to take the best player in the draft at #2.

 

[tommyGunZ]

LOL at those thinking that Shanny is some kind of NFL GM puppet master. Maybe he should use some of his puppet master skills to help the Broncos win a few playoff games sans Elway.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

LOL at those thinking that Shanny is some kind of NFL GM puppet master. Maybe he should use some of his puppet master skills to help the Broncos win a few playoff games sans Elway.

Well maybe he's just a puppet apprentice there Mr. Smartypants.Just because he's not always very good at it doesn't mean he doesn't do it. He pulled the strings a bit last year with the Cutler deal.

 

[grind]

LOL at those thinking that Shanny is some kind of NFL GM puppet master. Maybe he should use some of his puppet master skills to help the Broncos win a few playoff games sans Elway.

Well maybe he's just a puppet apprentice there Mr. Smartypants.Just because he's not always very good at it doesn't mean he doesn't do it. He pulled the strings a bit last year with the Cutler deal.

He also pulled some strings when taking Clarrett.

 

[jurb26]

The Broncos have very little to offer in moving up that high. I'm surprised this thread has gone so far.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

LOL at those thinking that Shanny is some kind of NFL GM puppet master. Maybe he should use some of his puppet master skills to help the Broncos win a few playoff games sans Elway.

Well maybe he's just a puppet apprentice there Mr. Smartypants.Just because he's not always very good at it doesn't mean he doesn't do it. He pulled the strings a bit last year with the Cutler deal.

He also pulled some strings when taking Clarrett.

They should have drug tested HIM for that one.

 

[rascal]

Well the thread can officially die.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_5735840

Broncos fans should stop dreaming about wide receiver Calvin Johnson.

An NFL source says the Detroit Lions will trade their No. 2 overall draft pick, but will entertain offers only from teams with picks 3 through 10. That means the Broncos, with their No. 21 pick, likely are too far away to move up and get Johnson, the Georgia Tech star who is widely regarded as the draft's most cherished prize.

"Try to find a negative on him," said Jeffrey Foster, president of the NFL scouting service. "It's hard to do."

The Broncos made two trade proposals last month for the Lions' No. 2 pick, but were rebuffed. The chances of revisiting a deal for Johnson on draft day this weekend diminished with the Lions' decision

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Well the thread can officially die.

Let's just change the title to "Broncos want Adrian Peterson" and go from there!

 

[Jeff19658]

I think this would be cool as hell. It would be scary to think what Denver could do if it happend. I dont see it happening though. Raiders would never allow it. Even if they want Russell and take him. They can still trade Tampa Bay to move to 4 and still get him. Thus allowing Denver to not gt him and still get their guy. For that reason alone I dont think it will happen. The relationship of Al davis and Shanahan...Davis will not let it happen. I can not wait for draft day....is taking way to long to get here. Going to be fun!!

 

[Chunky Soup]

Well the thread can officially die.

Why is everyone ruling out potential trade to #6 with WASH, then trade to DET. I'd say this thread is far from dead